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Non-free screenshots of Killing All the Right People

File:DWkilling.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

File:DWkendall.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Someone said that they fail WP:NFCC#8. Are they eligible for speedy deletion or full discussion? If full, I must make a proposal here before approved by you. --George Ho (talk) 07:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Interessting question. I'm not much into the non-free files so I do not know how strict it is taken. Do you know if there have been a discussion somewhere about using screenshots in single episodes of series? A strict way to look at it is that screenshots are almost never allowed per WP:NFCC#8 because it is impossible or hard to claim that "it would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic" etc. --MGA73 (talk) 09:06, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I've added a free image of Tony Goldwyn in this article, so one of screenshots would appear replaceable. Meanwhile, not sure about the other. --George Ho (talk) 09:20, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

They are reviewed and deemed as unable to help readers understand the topic more. Shall I tag them as speedy deletion? --George Ho (talk) 05:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes I think that would be ok. --MGA73 (talk) 09:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Strange

My watchlist says one thing, reality is another.

(Deletion log); 20:27 . . MGA73 (talk | contribs) deleted page File:Michelson interferometer fringe formation.svg ‎(F8: File available on Wikimedia Commons as File:Michelson interferometer fringe formation.svg (under the same name))

Wikipedia and Commons versions of File:Michelson interferometer fringe formation.svg both exist. Does this maybe have to do with our server problems? Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 23:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps it is some time lag? When I click the link I see "View or restore 9 deleted edits?". --MGA73 (talk) 06:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Both links are still blue. Oh well, it's a minor glitch, I think... but I ought to make a Bugzilla report, anyway. Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 09:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Both links are supposed to be blue because the file has the same name on Commons. If you see the "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below. ..." message just below the file then everything is ok. --MGA73 (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see. The English Wikipedia link to to a redirect, while the Commons link is direct. Whoops! :-) Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 10:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Rachel green.jpg

Shall I nominate this as "di-disputed fair use rationale"? --George Ho (talk) 05:42, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I would wait a day or two and see what happens on the review discussion and then I would tag it. --MGA73 (talk) 18:26, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Frasier Crane.jpg

This image is seen in Getty Images. Shall I tag it for speedy deletion? --George Ho (talk) 06:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. If you could find a replacement it would be cool. --MGA73 (talk) 06:53, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Filing DRV on two images seen in, not owned by, Getty Images

Nyttend said that these images are okay to use because Getty Images does not own them. However, some others said they are not because of commercial use. Therefore, I wonder if I must file a deletion review on one or both images. File:Jaleel White Steve Urkel.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and File:Cheers cast photo.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) are seen in Getty Images website and, although not owned by but licensed non-exclusively to Getty Images, I don't know what to say. Either highly valuable or okay to use, but I need your approval under agreements that Begoon put on me. --George Ho (talk) 02:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

It may be ok to use Getty Images but it seems that replacements has been found and whenever possible we should use photos that are not used commercially (Wikipedia:NFCC#2). So I would not send them to deletion review. Did you ask because you wanted to use the photos or because you was afraid you made some mistake? If it is about the last option don't worry. An admin decided to delete and if someone does not like the result they can start a deletion review themselves. --MGA73 (talk) 06:01, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

No, it is neither of above. It's Nyttend and his beliefs, and I was trying to please him because he is also an administrator, like you. I wonder if you can try to conversate. He contested speedy deletion proposal for File:Frasier Crane.jpg, and I tried to convince him. However, he has his beliefs. --George Ho (talk) 07:53, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Aha. Well if you still believe that we should avoid to use Getty Images it would IMO be better to add File:Frasier Crane.jpg to ffd and tell why. Instead of using a image also on Getty Images someone could just pick a random screenshot. That should be easy to find. So I see no reason why we should keep the one above. --MGA73 (talk) 10:57, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Replaced image with a screenshot in Frasier Crane. Here's my proposal:

I'm nominating this image for deletion because it is shown in Getty Images. Although it is made by NBC, the fact that this photo is licensed to Getty Images indicates a higher commercial value of this image, and higher commercial value would triumph any other intent in Wikipedia. Seriously, I tried saving File:Jaleel White Steve Urkel.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) but failed. Even I did not vote for or against File:Cheers cast photo.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), but it got deleted without votes. One user assumes that appearance in Getty has no effect on Wikipedia use of a commercially valuable image. However, another user says that prior publication does not erase or lower high commercial value. Here's the replacement: File:Frasier Crane Shrink Wrap radio station KACL.jpg.

Let me know if this proposal needs adjustments. --George Ho (talk) 17:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm discussing this matter in general in WP:VPP, so I'll wait until the discussion dies down before I can nominate the image for FFD. --George Ho (talk) 19:49, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks fine. However, I would also add a link to Wikipedia:NFCC#2 + mention "Respect for commercial opportunities".

Can I add File:Frasiercast.jpg as FFD, as well? It is used in Getty Images and NBCU Photobank. --George Ho (talk) 21:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes. --MGA73 (talk) 17:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

It's free

You put a notification here: [1]. I took the photo. My camwera info is included and it should be pretty darn obvious that it's free. Please don't question my integrity again without some legitimate reason. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:46, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I replied here: Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files/2012_July_16#File:Entrance_to_Celebration_V.JPG. --MGA73 (talk) 19:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

File:ACABASHI OASIS WIKI.ogg

Thanks for reviewing this one. I have added a comment on the discussion. As I come down hard on URL copyright infringement, if there is a problem about copyright I believe the file should be removed. I've given information as best as I am able from my song registration page, while not knowing much about what necessary information is correct for such files types for Wikipedia. The song is my own and Trussells, and we both give permission for its inclusion, but I know this means little unless the thing is done properly. You will need to look at the other ogg files on the same page. I would be grateful for your advice. Acabashi (talk) 20:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)}

Thank you very much for your reply. I have to go for today but left a short reply on the the discussion. Hope it can help you. --MGA73 (talk) 21:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Macchi M.70 and other files

You contacted me about helping with some copyright questions. As is true with most image copyright questions, the average Wikipedia contributor could not possibly know the publication history, name of creator, death date of creator, etc., of photos he or she uploads, and can only go with the apparent date of the photos and the substance of the relevant public domain tag that Wikipedia has available. PD-Italy applies to the photos you are asking about because they were created in Italy prior to 1976, per the PD-Italy tag. That tag also says, though, that PD-Italy photos on en.wikipedia may not be transferrable to Commons, because they may not be in the public domain outside of Italy and the United States and therefore cannot be listed as such on Commons. (Which is why I never put anything on Commons, because knowing what can and cannot be there is far too complicated and the necessary evidence is virtually impossible to discover.) I think that some of the photos you transferred to Commons should not have been and need to left on en.wikipedia to keep the photo police from squawking about them and to keep them available on en.wikipedia as I intended.

As for the link to the source for the Macchi M.70 line drawings, it still works fine for me, so I don't know why anyone is having trouble finding it. Go to http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1929/1929%20-%200372.html and the line drawings can be seen on the left-hand side of the magazine page (a 1929 edition of Flight). Mdnavman (talk) 17:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)mdnavman

Thank you. Replied on your talk page. --MGA73 (talk) 18:07, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

File:IUPAC example Single-Strand Inorganic Polymer.png

Dear MGA73, thank you for commenting on this file and making the licence modification in the text. Really appreciated, because I couldn't see how to do this. One minor question please. Not quite sure what to do regarding the big red box saying 'This file has been listed on Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because the information on its source or copyright status is disputed.' as it looks as the discussion has resolved this so that it is no longer a problem. Should I best leave that and wait for an Administrator to remove it? Have to admit not sure I could do it myself if it is meant to be me doing it. Sorry for bothering you with this. Again, thank you for your help - massively appreciated! Best regards, Rogerchiorns (talk) 15:51, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

It is always best not to remove a tag yourself. The reason I did not move it to Commons myself was that I was not using my own computer. Someone has now moved it to Commons and I deleted the local file so everything should be ok. If something needs to be fixed just to to Commons:File:IUPAC_example_Single-Strand_Inorganic_Polymer.png and fix it there. --MGA73 (talk) 16:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Dear MGA73, Wow - that really is wonderful. Thank you so very much. I understand the not removing the red box myself. I won't do that should it arise in other cases. Many many thanks again. All best wishes, Rogerchiorns (talk) 16:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)