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Cascata delle Marmore
On Oct 29th 2006, you requested a translation of the article Cascata delle Marmore into English. I did so tonight: Cascata_delle_Marmore.
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April editathons at Women in Red
January 2020 at Women in Red
January 2020, Volume 6, Issue 1, Numbers 146, 148, 149, 150, 151, 153
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Ethnicity vs. nationality
I thought this might interest you because of the Sami biographies that you and I plus Ipigott worked on last year. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Rosiestep: Thanks for drawing our attention to the discussion. I am fully aware of the problem of nationality vs. ethnicity in connection with the Samis. Not long ago, I made a proposal for introducing new categories based on ethnicity rather than nationality but this did not appear to be acceptable. It certainly seems to be the case that most Samis would prefer to be recognized first and foremost by ethnicity but this is somewhat complicated by the fact that the majority are connected to national organizations related to politics, education, the media or sports. So it looks to me as it we'll just have to live with things as they are for the time being.--Ipigott (talk) 10:24, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
June 2020 at Women in Red
Women in Red June 2020, Volume 6, Issue 6, Numbers 150, 151, 167, 168, 169
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--Rosiestep (talk) 17:12, 25 May 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
July 2020 at Women in Red
Women in Red / July 2020, Volume 6, Issue 7, Numbers 150, 151, 170, 171, 172, 173
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--Rosiestep (talk) 16:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Could you have a look at this. There's a second attempt to have it deleted.--Ipigott (talk) 10:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Trondtr:. Would you be able to help Ipigott with this? I really don't know what to say other than the nominator seems to be determined to get rid of this article at all costs, so I have no idea what would be considered useful unfortunately. -Yupik (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Ipigott:. Are citations from stuff written about in that publication ok? For example, an article from it was cited in this newspaper article. Kotus, i.e. The Institute for the Languages of Finland and its counterpart in Sweden Institute for Language and Folklore. It's discussed in the book that all students of Saami studies has to read in Finland. Yle news coverage: [1], [2], [3]. It's been considered to be of such a good quality that it's been used in the mother tongue portions of the Finnish matriculation exams for Inari Saami and Northern Saami. Some more: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15]. Also. it's frequently misspelled as SAMI DIEDALAS AIGECALA outside of the Saami-speaking world. Do these help? :D -Yupik (talk) 11:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- It's just been explained to me that it's not an AfD, simply a prod for notability. Perhaps you can improve the article on the basis of the above or simply explain the background on the talk page. I'm no expert with Sami publications myself. In this connection, you may be interested to know that this is just one of many recent articles on the Samis by Tcr25. (cc Randykitty).--Ipigott (talk) 12:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I don't have the time right now and I'll forget by the time I do. Thanks for letting me know about Tcr25! Great stuff, keep up the good work! -Yupik (talk) 12:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you both. I added two more citations as to the role of SDÁ in building Sámi languages as languages of research and science, but I don't think it will change Randykitty's opinion. In general, as I understand his objections, he's looking for coverage of the journal itself, not citations of papers it's published, or for evidence that it's included in a selective index of publications (which I would think NSI Level 2 status would qualify as, but ...) Carter (talk) 13:54, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Part of the problem is that I cannot access any library books that might discuss SDÁ right now since the libraries they are in are closed because of the pandemic. The other part is the same problem we see for pretty much any indigenous or minority publication not in English, which is non-coverage outside of the community itself and a lack of understanding of the importance of the publication to the scientific community (and the community in general) that uses the language(s). -Yupik (talk) 14:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- I think your second point hits the nail right on the head. "Notability" isn't always going to be immediately evident based solely on English-language sources, but that doesn't make something non-notable, especially when talking about "small" languages/communities. Carter (talk) 20:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Part of the problem is that I cannot access any library books that might discuss SDÁ right now since the libraries they are in are closed because of the pandemic. The other part is the same problem we see for pretty much any indigenous or minority publication not in English, which is non-coverage outside of the community itself and a lack of understanding of the importance of the publication to the scientific community (and the community in general) that uses the language(s). -Yupik (talk) 14:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you both. I added two more citations as to the role of SDÁ in building Sámi languages as languages of research and science, but I don't think it will change Randykitty's opinion. In general, as I understand his objections, he's looking for coverage of the journal itself, not citations of papers it's published, or for evidence that it's included in a selective index of publications (which I would think NSI Level 2 status would qualify as, but ...) Carter (talk) 13:54, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I don't have the time right now and I'll forget by the time I do. Thanks for letting me know about Tcr25! Great stuff, keep up the good work! -Yupik (talk) 12:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- It's just been explained to me that it's not an AfD, simply a prod for notability. Perhaps you can improve the article on the basis of the above or simply explain the background on the talk page. I'm no expert with Sami publications myself. In this connection, you may be interested to know that this is just one of many recent articles on the Samis by Tcr25. (cc Randykitty).--Ipigott (talk) 12:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Ipigott:. Are citations from stuff written about in that publication ok? For example, an article from it was cited in this newspaper article. Kotus, i.e. The Institute for the Languages of Finland and its counterpart in Sweden Institute for Language and Folklore. It's discussed in the book that all students of Saami studies has to read in Finland. Yle news coverage: [1], [2], [3]. It's been considered to be of such a good quality that it's been used in the mother tongue portions of the Finnish matriculation exams for Inari Saami and Northern Saami. Some more: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15]. Also. it's frequently misspelled as SAMI DIEDALAS AIGECALA outside of the Saami-speaking world. Do these help? :D -Yupik (talk) 11:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Here's another one requiring some Finnish expertise. Also up for deletion.--Ipigott (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know! I've put my two cents in. -Yupik (talk) 06:20, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
August 2020 at Women in Red
Women in Red | August 2020, Volume 6, Issue 8, Numbers 150, 151, 173, 174, 175
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--Rosiestep (talk) 18:51, 26 July 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Editor of the Week
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Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your teaching us about indigenous peoples. Thank you for the great and important contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project) |
User:Rosiestep submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
- I would like to nominate Editor Yupik because of their work associated with indigenous people, specifically the Sami. It should be of interest and noted that Yupik has worked more on the Sami and Finnish wikis than on the English version. Fellow editors have learned more about indigenous people and how to write about their own culture by seeing Yupik's personal work and cultural advocacy. In addition to writing articles, Yupik has uploaded many images and helped others understand the culture of Wikipedia so that things are done right when creating and improving articles within this focus. They are also very active with Wikidata in this regard. User:Ipigott and User:Megalibrarygirl provided seconds for this nomination
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Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 13:41, 2 August 2020 (UTC)