Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Les (2nd nomination)
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The result was merge to 100 Gecs. – bradv🍁 15:24, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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American singer who, from the lead of the article is "best known for being one half of the hyperpop duo 100 gecs". Following last year's AfD the previous article was merged into 100 gecs. I can't see anything to suggest that WP:BANDMEMBER is no longer applicable. Setting aside involvement in 100 gecs, there is not enough to meet WP:MUSICBIO John B123 (talk) 18:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - Simply being best-known for involvement in one group doesn't mean a subject hasn't shown notability outside of that role - There are plenty of examples here, but I'm sure we would all identify Ringo Starr, for instance, as a member of the Beatles before anything else. In this case, Les has received considerable coverage ([1] [2] [3]) related to "Haunted" since the previous AfD. The article's GQ and Rolling Stone references also discuss Les' music and life prior to her involvement in 100 gecs, which I would argue is coverage not directly related to her involvement in the band. AviationFreak💬 18:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Merge again to 100 gecs. To the previous voter, comparing this Ms. Les to Ringo is a real stretch. She has some older solo works but they are only mentioned in articles that are really about 100 gecs, or in one case collaborator Katie Dey. Her recent song "Haunted" has indeed gotten some press, but it is only described in each cited article rather briefly and the press seems to have decided it is a one-time side project so far. Per WP:TOOSOON she does not yet have enough of a solo presence to merit a personal article here. The fact that she released the solo song can be mentioned at the band's article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 22:05, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per AviationFreak. Ringo Starr she may not be, but she's definitely notable and the sources within the article indicate notability and coverage aside from her being in the band. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 10:55, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per AviationFreak. Rab V (talk) 10:06, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to 100 gecs. Simply does not meet WP:MUSICBIO, all good coverage is in relation to that band. Onel5969 TT me 04:21, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep, merge or redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Keep, merge or redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:57, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:57, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to 100 gecs. One recent solo single does not confer independent notability. LizardJr8 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Merge into 100 gecs. She may well be notable as a solo artist in the future, but given that most media coverage has been about 100 gecs as a unit, I agree that this is WP:TOOSOON. —mountainhead / ? 21:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: this discussion has been referenced in a Facebook group for fans of 100 gecs, which might impact the responses here. —mountainhead / ? 01:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up, I've added {{Not a ballot}}. AviationFreak💬 02:14, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: this discussion has been referenced in a Facebook group for fans of 100 gecs, which might impact the responses here. —mountainhead / ? 01:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Ben Cohen. Laura Les is an accomplished solo artist. She performs DJ sets independently, and has more released than just Haunted, her most recent work, and seemingly the only work of hers referenced by this discussion. Laura has been actively helping define and pioneer an emerging subgenre and deserves even more recognition than wikipedia gives her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.162.193.66 (talk) 22:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Clearly meets the WP:MUSICBIO. Alongside this she is as mentioned been an integral part of pioneering an emerging sub genre Dylpicklee (talk) 00:22, 6 June 2021 (UTC) — Dylpicklee (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- The Facebook effect noted above seems to be kicking in. The last two voters have done little else on Wikipedia except this. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:54, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to 100 gecs. I am not seeing anything in the sourcing in the article, nor via my own research, to see how this subject merits inclusion independently on Wikipedia. Missvain (talk) 02:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to 100 gecs. Take away the 100 gecs stuff and all you've got is the remix album and "Haunted", which isn't much. If her solo career goes somewhere, maybe this article can be recreated and expanded, but for now, well... AdoTang (talk) 20:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @AdoTang: The Rolling Stone and GQ articles both go into significant detail on Les' earlier life and work, discussing her early EPs and whatnot. AviationFreak💬 12:49, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per AviationFreak. There’s enough WP:SIGCOV here to establish her notability outside of the band.4meter4 (talk) 05:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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