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I think the usage of the word "Settings" is easily misunderstood

Because the focus of these guidelines is about video games, it should be more clear when saying "Settings" that this is about the locations or places that events within the game are occur. I know when I first read "Settings", my initial impression had been that this is talking about the "Gameplay Settings" such as "Aim Assist", "First Person" vs "Third Person" perspective, "Camera Lock Mode". But these are very different than saying if I was in the case of League of Legends, trying to write about the locations within the game such as, "Summoner's Rift", "The Howling Abyss", or locations within the game's lore that while not directly observed, are understood in what the values and culture of these locations consists of. "Demacia" is known for there prejudice against mages, "Noxus" is known for their culture of being able to rise up through one's strength. Hail~Fire 18:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

I am sharing this because I don't have a lot of experience as a wikipedia editor so I don't want to assume that what I am saying I see is sufficient reason for me to go and change a page about how pages should be written. I have been an editor for the [1]League of Legends Fandom Wiki]] for the last 4 years, but I don't want to assume that things are the same here as they are for the League of Legends Wiki. Hail~Fire 18:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Use of past-tense in lead sections

Can I put forward that the use of past tense in lead sections for discontinued yet publicly-released games be revisited as a concept. While I can understand the use of past tense for projects that never released, given we can't actually say they were ever a complete piece of media, the continued use of past tense stands out in contrast to the view taken in both the general manual of style (MOS:TENSE) and those used on comparative media ones too (MOS:TVNOW,MOS:FILMNOW). Rambling Rambler (talk) 21:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Unlike other media which is usable even after a final printing or discontuation, once released but shuttered games that rely on the online connectivity become no longer playable following the shuttering, so for all purposes, the game no longer exists in a playable form. Hence why we have used past tense for those games. — Masem (t) 23:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

While they may not be playable that still doesn’t remove the fact they exist though.

There are plenty of examples of lost media items that we still refer to in present tense because it exists (wiped tv episodes for instance), so it’s odd for video games to still have a MOS that conflicts with the others. Rambling Rambler (talk) 07:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Listing platforms for "enhanced" versions/remasters

There are a lot of articles where a platform for a game that it didn't initially release on is included under the Platforms section. Backwards-compatibility examples should not be listed per WP:VG/PLATFORMS, but does this still include "enhanced" versions, or what could almost be considered a remaster, of the game? To pluck an example out of the air, Horizon Zero Dawn received a PC release in 2020, which is improved over the PS4 version. The PC version is mentioned as one of the game's platforms on its article.

Similarly, if a game receives an official remaster, but one which doesn't have its own article, is what it's available on eligible to be listed under Platforms? For example, Skyrim was remastered for PS4, Xbox One, and PC in 2016, which are all listed as platforms for the game on its article. If remasters can, should it come with a note saying it's a remastered version? Wikibenboy94 (talk) 21:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Remasters on modern platforms should be considered no different than any other port, meaning they should be included unless a specific article for it exists. Noting them is optional but helpful, I've actually begun to do that practice myself more in other articles. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@Dissident93 So you're saying the MoS shouldn't be followed as a rule and that any port/re-release/remaster (without their own articles) should be included? I'm sure you understood but just in case I am just referring to the Platform section in the infobox, not the Release information. Wikibenboy94 (talk) 09:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I hadn't read the bottom of the section in the MoS which I see now mentions remasters/remakes! Wikibenboy94 (talk) 13:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't even aware the MOS specifically brought this up or I simply would have linked you instead. But yes, they are no different than any other proper port in terms of how we handle them in infoboxes. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 23:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)