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June 2022

Hello, I'm Kpddg. I noticed that you recently removed content from Kurmali language without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Kpddg ^(talk) 14:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Kurmali language. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. You have removed sourced content and changed of hatnote. Please discuss your issues in the talk page per WP:BRD. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded to your messages on my talk page as well as the article talk. Please take steps according to these. Other editors will discuss this issue. Kpddg ^(talk) 15:48, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history at Kurmali language shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Do not edit war. Discuss in the talk page and gain WP:CONSENSUS. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many false information found on this page. I already message you. This guy provide many fake details and use many inauthentic data as a source which is not verified by India Government. Only Kurmi/Kudmi community, Kumhar community, Bagal, Bauri, Kamar, Bauri of Jharkhand, West Bengal, Odisha speak Kurmali. No tribal speak speak kurmali. So kindly I removed the false information. Mahato King (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The process is to discuss the issues and gain consensus int he talk page. You keep removing content without consensus, you'll be reported to the admins. See WP:BRD. Also you are removing hatnote. See WP:HATNOTE - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:57, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever I removed those data are not verified or not authentic. Only Govt Can authentic. So I removed inauthentic data Mahato King (talk) 15:58, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flyland shark provide fake information. Only Kurmi, Kumhar, Chik baraik, Bagal people's speak kurmali. Not any single tribal speak kurmali. But this guy provide fake information Mahato King (talk) 16:02, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The other communities that speak this as a second language is supported by govt sources. I've explained that with source in the article talk page. You should revert your changes per WP:BRD and discuss if you have further issues. And maintain WP:CIVILITY in your comments. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You provided fake information. Mahato King (talk) 16:28, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary, as you did at Kurmali language. Peaceray (talk) 16:59, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peaceray, listen Ghosh article is individual, not govt verified. If you allow this type of fake documents for Wikipedia. Then everyone manipulate Wikipedia. Mahato King (talk) 17:04, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What part of "get WP:CONSENSUS per WP:BRD" you do not understand? Instead of unilaterally removing sourced content, you should wait for consensus, but you prefer edit warring. You are way past WP:3RR. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ghosh article is not Govt Article. Ghosh article is individual with fake data. Mahato King (talk) 17:12, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How would you prove it is fake and why should we believe you instead of a scholarly source coming from an Indian Govt Portal? You should provide solid evidence (reliable sources) in you support instead of making declarations like "Ghosh article is fake". Removing content without WP:CONSENSUS in the talk page is disruptive. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kurmali language. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Peaceray (talk) 17:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Karmali language does not exist. No single tribal people speak in Kurmali. Kurmali is a Aryan language of Kurmi,Kumhar,Bauri, Napit, Dhoba people. You give false information based on Ghosh individual fake survey report. You support a crime Mr peaceray. Mahato King (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The content and the sources say that those tribes are bilingual in Kurmali, not that it is their mother tongue. In a country like India, majority of the people are bilingual in Hindi, English, or the specific region's common language. What is the problem in it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:26, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You have any valid source of supporting it rather than Ghosh fake research report Mahato King (talk) 17:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The burden is on you to prove that it is fake not me. The source supports the content which you removed, it also supports other contents in the article as well. The source itself takes references from other established sources and govt data. That's enough for Wikipedia. Your arguments are not valid to remove longstanding content. You have to bring stronger sources in your support instead of repeating "it is fake" again and again. Also discuss in the talk page of the article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:39, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yaa it is fake. Because karmali langu does not exist. Only Kurmali a indo-aryan language exist. Also no tribal speak in Kurmali. Kurmali is speaking by Kurmi and Kurmi friend caste like Kumhar,Bauri,Hari,Napit,Dhoba caste Mahato King (talk) 17:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have any Government Data. You only have Ghosh Fake research data with too much wrong details Mahato King (talk) 17:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not convincing. You are reiterating the same thing "fake data" and "tribals don't speak this and that". Ghosh's research is based on census and other scholarly sources (see the bibliography of the work). Bring strong sources in support of your comment. As for the tribals, let me reiterate a second time, the content says - bilingually spoken by Bhumij, Ho, Kharia, Lohara/Lohar, Mahli, Munda, Oraon, Santal, Savar and Bathudi communities - that is as a second language. It doesn't claim Kurmali is their mother tongue. Are you suggesting that tribals of India can't speak any other language? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Haha Ghosh all data is not based on census dada. Ghosh maximum report are wrong and fake. Mahato King (talk) 18:00, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Different tribal community know their tribal language and main language like Hindi,Bengali, Odia, Assamese . They doesn't know any other Regional language Mahato King (talk) 18:02, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Mahato_King reported by User:Fylindfotberserk (Result: ). Thank you. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:02, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flylindfotberserk provide fake information with fake unverified source so remove it. Mahato King (talk) 16:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You need to explain your concerns about the sources at the article's talk page. With no explanation, your persistent removals look like pure disruption. —C.Fred (talk) 18:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To that end, I have, as a procedural matter, reverted your changes. You need to discuss the changes and get consensus for the removal before removing it. —C.Fred (talk) 18:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Revision as of 18:08, 18 June 2022 edit C.Fred (talk \| contribs) Autopatrolled, Administrators 277,029 edits →Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion: need to explain why you're removing it, then ← Previous edit		Revision as of 18:10, 18 June 2022 edit undo C.Fred (talk \| contribs) Autopatrolled, Administrators 277,029 edits →Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion: status quo version restored; take it to talk pge Next edit →
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	::You need to explain your concerns about the sources at the article's talk page. With no explanation, your persistent removals look like pure disruption. —'''[[User:C.Fred\|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred\|talk]]) 18:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)		::You need to explain your concerns about the sources at the article's talk page. With no explanation, your persistent removals look like pure disruption. —'''[[User:C.Fred\|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred\|talk]]) 18:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

			::To that end, I have, as a procedural matter, reverted your changes. You need to discuss the changes and get [[WP:Consensus\|consensus]] for the removal before removing it. —'''[[User:C.Fred\|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred\|talk]]) 18:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC)