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:: I am long accustomed to being told by many that I'm wrong, only to be later shown correct, and one doesn't need to look any farther than the discussion and ultimate outcome at [[Talk:Recession]] to see the perfect example of it. The entire episode was a disgrace. I've said my piece and I'm done. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 23:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC) |
:: I am long accustomed to being told by many that I'm wrong, only to be later shown correct, and one doesn't need to look any farther than the discussion and ultimate outcome at [[Talk:Recession]] to see the perfect example of it. The entire episode was a disgrace. I've said my piece and I'm done. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 23:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC) |
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:::I will hold you to that.-- [[User:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">'''Ponyo'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span>]]</sup> 23:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC) |
:::I will hold you to that.-- [[User:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">'''Ponyo'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span>]]</sup> 23:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Just to ensure there's no misunderstanding, "I'm done" should not be broadly construed. I may in the future seek policy clarification and reform. Per policy, I may be wrong. Alternatively, maybe the policy is wrong. I believe it is. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 16:48, 8 November 2022 (UTC) |
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Just a heads up
Hi Ponyo, hope you are doing well. I noticed your edits to this page reverting edits made in violation of a ban. I then noticed an IP reverted them and you also reverted them and protected the page. I have looked through the editing history of this IP address and the habits seem very similar to an unrelated user who was recently blocked indefinitely for disruptivly editing. I don’t want to publicly add their username as that could be seen as a personal attack, although since you are very experienced with this behaviour, maybe I could email you the user and IP and you could have a look? That is if you are still not busy of course. If not, no worries, I will take to SPI instead. Have a great day! Blanchey (talk) 20:38, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Blanchey: You don't need to email me. If I'm reverting an IP due to block evasion, I know which (if any) accounts they are linked to. -- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:41, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, wait. This isn't the case I thought you were talking about. Go ahead with the SPI.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:46, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- I’m just scared of making a personal attack because all I have got is editing habits are slightly similar, when this happens, I tend to go directly to an admin (like I did here) but if you think that my suspicions on the editing habits warrant an SPI report, I’ll go ahead. Or I can tell you here on talk page? Blanchey (talk) 20:55, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Making unfounded accusations of socking can be seen as a personal attack; making evidence-based connections between accounts/IPs based on behavioural overlap isn't. Such connections are literally the basis of our SPI system. As a checkuser I don't want you sending me evidence linking accounts and IPs because I can't explicitly link them publicly due to the privacy policy; you could send me the info but I couldn't act on it as a checkuser. SPI is your best best.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks so much, you have really helped me understand the policy. I will now go straight to SPI and get this sorted. Have a good day, Ponyo Blanchey (talk) 21:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Making unfounded accusations of socking can be seen as a personal attack; making evidence-based connections between accounts/IPs based on behavioural overlap isn't. Such connections are literally the basis of our SPI system. As a checkuser I don't want you sending me evidence linking accounts and IPs because I can't explicitly link them publicly due to the privacy policy; you could send me the info but I couldn't act on it as a checkuser. SPI is your best best.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:00, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- I’m just scared of making a personal attack because all I have got is editing habits are slightly similar, when this happens, I tend to go directly to an admin (like I did here) but if you think that my suspicions on the editing habits warrant an SPI report, I’ll go ahead. Or I can tell you here on talk page? Blanchey (talk) 20:55, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
User talk:Allaoi
After you warned the user a bit ago, they have made yet another (whiny) unblock request ("I promise, I will try to contribute as much as possible, but since I don't have much experience, I'm probably going to need an adopter. If you could help with that too, that would be great, but you don't need to. Please just unblock me and I swear, I'll be a good Wikipedian."). Do you have any objection to my removing TPA? They are a hopeless timesink.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Down Under LTA again
See here. BilCat (talk) 02:15, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently they didn't get the memo that when I archived the last mega-thread regarding their socking, they were supposed to stop. Anyhoo, I've dealt with the latest IP.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:07, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently not. Also back at Heinkel, Pat Pattle, and AIR-2 Genie. They're using different IPs most of the time, so it's really hard to track them all. And thanks as always. BilCat (talk) 00:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- And also Gloster Meteor. BilCat (talk) 05:19, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- All Done.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:48, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- And also Gloster Meteor. BilCat (talk) 05:19, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently not. Also back at Heinkel, Pat Pattle, and AIR-2 Genie. They're using different IPs most of the time, so it's really hard to track them all. And thanks as always. BilCat (talk) 00:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
WP:RM made by (now) CU blocked sock
Hi Ponyo. Would you be willing to close this WP:RM made by this (now) CU blocked sock?[1] - LouisAragon (talk) 15:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- There are support and oppose arguments being made from editors other than the sock, so it would be improper for me to close it (in my opinion). In such instances I generally just strike the sock entries and let the discussion run its course.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
talk page colors
Hello ponyo first off i want to say I'm sorry for how I treated you a year ago and I'm thoroughly embarrassed about what I did. I was wondering how do I change the color for my talk page link in my signature i have tried to change it in the common.js but I still don't understand how. If you are to busy or this is the wrong place to ask I apologize for distracting you Tdshe/her 19:56, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Thedefender35: Someone at Wikipedia:Help desk could probably guide you through it. Please be mindful of MOS:COLOR when choosing colours.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:02, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- got it thanks :) Tdshe/her 20:03, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello
My page "Like A Dino!" got deleted, and I want to recover it, but it took me four-five hours and I don't want to do that hard work again. And also, I want to know why it was deleted. Thank you.
Sincerely, MiumiuFromBabybus MiumiuFromBabybus (talk) 05:38, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- @MiumiuFromBabybus: I explained why it was deleted on your talk page (it's at the bottom of the page, starting with "Deletion note"). The article made no indicatation of significance for the game and included only primary sources, none of which could be used to even determine if the article would be viable even if it was moved to draft. WP:WEBCRIT provides additional information as to the criteria for inclusion for web content to be included on Wikipedia.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! So, can I do the article again? MiumiuFromBabybus (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- @MiumiuFromBabybus: Can you tell me which criteria of WP:WEBCRIT it meets? If you can, I will restore it draft and you can work it through the Articles for creation process. Otherwise, it will just be deleted again.-- Ponyobons mots 17:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Ummm... The developer of the game has a website, but hasn't been featured in news, and they didn't even got a single award, and also, they only had their game on the top most played games once. Does this fit? MiumiuFromBabybus (talk) 17:33, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- @MiumiuFromBabybus: No; the game does not yet meet the notability criteria for inclusion. Before creating an article, please review the relevant notability criteria for the topic you will be writing about. Also, I strongly suggest you use the Articles for Creation process as it will create a draft that can be reviewed by other editors who can help you with referencing etc.-- Ponyobons mots 17:38, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Ok, thank you so much! This was helpful MiumiuFromBabybus (talk) 17:41, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Writing well-sourced articles on notable topics is not easy. Some editors prefer to become more familiar with how Wikipedia works by helping out in areas needing attention first before diving into content creation. Help:Getting started has a ton of information as well you may find useful. Either way, best of luck to you on your Wikipedia adventure.-- Ponyobons mots 17:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
quick question
how do you link a specific change that was made to an article like when you link it to "here"? Tdshe/her 17:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about a WP:DIFF? Like this, for example?-- Ponyobons mots 17:41, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- yes. I'm sorry. I'm terrible at wording the way i think. Tdshe/her 17:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- could you please report me for vandalism? I can't trust myself with anything at this point. I have so much trouble focusing on a set of things and I get sidetracked so easily and it leads to situations that cause the to get even worse and can lead to others doing dumb things. Tdshe/her 19:47, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- You're not a vandal, just an editor who jumped into the deep end of Wikipedia too quickly. It's common and as long as you're open to listening to what other editors have to say and are willing to learn, you will be able to find your niche here. Editing should be enjoyable, if you find yourself becoming stressed, take a break. -- Ponyobons mots 20:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- could you please report me for vandalism? I can't trust myself with anything at this point. I have so much trouble focusing on a set of things and I get sidetracked so easily and it leads to situations that cause the to get even worse and can lead to others doing dumb things. Tdshe/her 19:47, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- yes. I'm sorry. I'm terrible at wording the way i think. Tdshe/her 17:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Disruptive edits
Hi! 76.68.3.80 continues to make disruptive edits in International Space Station. What can be done about this situation? Cofcorpse (talk) 16:21, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
- Bbb23 to the rescue.-- Ponyobons mots 22:36, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Mnachtrab and more COI editing
After taking a bit of a break after you page blocked Mnachtrab (talk · contribs) from Cassava Sciences for COI disruption, they're now back and removing negative information from one of Cassava's products at Simufilam. Do you think the page block needs adjustment? MrOllie (talk) 22:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- This page is full of biased work. I am simply moving the "controversary" comments to the accusations section vs. redundantly adding it throughout the entire document. I made comments on talk and they are being ignored so I am editing it directly.
- The people that edited this page obviously had a conflict of interest against cassava. Mnachtrab (talk) 22:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- I've extended the partial block to include Simufilam per my note on your talk page. -- Ponyobons mots 23:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- These pages are VERY biased. I tried the talk page but change requests are being ignored. Please unblock me so I can fix them. They redundantly talk about accusations through these pages and it ruins the story of the company. They story of the drug and the company should be allowed to be told and the accusations should be consolidated in one area. Mnachtrab (talk) 23:14, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Your abject conflict of interest has proven that you have no ability to edit the article in an unbiased fashion. The partial block allows you to continue to participate on the talk page and to explore dispute resolution (to a point). That's is as good as it's going to get for you. Many accounts in such situations are just indefinitely blocked. -- Ponyobons mots 23:18, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- These pages are VERY biased. I tried the talk page but change requests are being ignored. Please unblock me so I can fix them. They redundantly talk about accusations through these pages and it ruins the story of the company. They story of the drug and the company should be allowed to be told and the accusations should be consolidated in one area. Mnachtrab (talk) 23:14, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- I've extended the partial block to include Simufilam per my note on your talk page. -- Ponyobons mots 23:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
David Anderson
Thank you for your good judgement on David Anderson. 96.55.168.21 (talk) 00:02, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- Two people in Canada have a dog with the same name; it's so trivial that I have no idea how the info ever made its way into the article in the first place. Ironic that "trivia" was the only section header in an article that is begging for some structure.-- Ponyobons mots 16:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- I couldn't agree more. 96.55.168.21 (talk) 20:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Good evening from Portugal!
Care to run a test in this account please (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Btm0942)? Edit summaries do "ring a bell"...
Enjoy the rest of your evening, continue the good work 2001:8A0:7643:2400:210F:C784:250B:6C25 (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
[2] Made me giggle. Curbon7 (talk) 06:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC) |
hello. i think User talk:Acv1006 is sockpuppet of user:A2004b. that's clear! (see here, User:Arminedite is his other account that was blocked) Miha2020 (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Miha2020; they are now blocked. Note you can also report new socks at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/A2004b.-- Ponyobons mots 17:47, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
AN/I NAC
Good afternoon, and sorry to pester,
You recently blocked a sock that made an appearance at AN/I. I figured it was as good a time as any to attempt an Non-admin closure. Could you briefly check to make sure this was the appropriate action and is formatted acceptably? I ask you since it's your name I mentioned on it. GabberFlasted (talk) 18:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me.-- Ponyobons mots 18:47, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
REmove TPA
COudl you remove the TPA of WikiGrandMaster98768? They clearly aren't going to use it for anything useful. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Every time they post there it refreshes the CU data; honeypots are helpful in certain circumstances. If it gets worse I'll yank t, but it's working in our favour at the moment.-- Ponyobons mots 19:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Really? I didn't actually know that. That's rather interesting. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Well every edit provides CU data, so if they keep posting, the data doesn't become stale. This one is particularly dense by advertising that they were socking, but whatever. I won't complain! -- Ponyobons mots 19:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Really? I didn't actually know that. That's rather interesting. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Who?
Who is this user (TheShammingMan (talk · contribs))?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oi, I wish I knew. I've gone to their talk multiple times to suggest they stop stirring various pots with peanut gallery comments, but I just don't have the strength to deal with the likely response. -- Ponyobons mots 20:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Heh, I know what you mean. They're very annoying and my guess a sock. Maybe I'm also influenced by the fact that Wikipedia has been more depressing than usual lately.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:36, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Unless someone recognizes a tell that would allow for a comparison with a suspected master, I've got nothing. This will likely go the long hard route. Yeah.-- Ponyobons mots 20:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Heh, I know what you mean. They're very annoying and my guess a sock. Maybe I'm also influenced by the fact that Wikipedia has been more depressing than usual lately.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:36, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Editwar on Drag Race Italia (season 2)
Hello, lately I am having problems with a certain user on the Drag Race Italia (season 2) page, as an IP user (with multiple accounts and multiple warnings), continues with edits related to the hometowns of the contestants, as has already happened at RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 4).
Therefore, to avoid an unnecessary edit war, since we have to wait for at least the broadcast of the first episode, I am here to ask you if there is a possibility to protect the Drag Race Italia (season 2) page from IP address edits.
I hope you will listen to my words, because the situation is getting a little bit out of hand now (exactly nine hours before the actual airing...) --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 22:03, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- The IP's last edit included a source. Regardless, this looks to be a content dispute. If you disagree, you can request page protection at WP:RFPP.-- Ponyobons mots 22:07, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm a wuss :(
Whatever shall I do? — ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:20, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm. My personal response to pretty much any "whatever shall I do" query is "pour a glass of wine". As a matter of fact, I'm logging off to do just that now!-- Ponyobons mots 23:23, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Enjoy! I'm about to enjoy a coffee and some apple pie myself. Decaf, though, because I'm old. — ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Wine and gochujang + kimchi tofu bowl for me. See you back at the salt mine tomorrow!-- Ponyobons mots 23:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- If I load just Sixteen Tons more, I'll get enough company scrip to buy some new pants! — ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Wine and gochujang + kimchi tofu bowl for me. See you back at the salt mine tomorrow!-- Ponyobons mots 23:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Enjoy! I'm about to enjoy a coffee and some apple pie myself. Decaf, though, because I'm old. — ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Socking down under again
See Special:Contributions/CatBil and AIR-2 Genie. Already reported to WP:UAA by someone else. BilCat (talk) 00:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I have reported the user to UAA. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 00:45, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! BilCat (talk) 00:47, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- So far, all their edits have been reverted. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 00:48, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- @BilCat I have opened an SPI now. Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 02:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! BilCat (talk) 00:47, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Regarding deletion of a new WIKI page
Hi admin - Ponyo, can you please help me regarding the deletion of The Chai Walah wiki page, according to you the page meets the (CSD : G11) - Unambiguous advertising or promotion, but i think the content is not irrelevant and is encyclopedic, also i have cited all the necessary info. regarding the company with reliable sources from India and foreign, is there a way to undo this deletion, why because if you give me some time i will try to expand the article with more data and reliable sources, thank you, awaiting for your response. Sai Raghavendra Puranam (talk) 09:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Sai Raghavendra Puranam: As noted on your talk page, and by you above, WP:CSD#G11 is used to delete overly-promotional pages. "content is not relevant and is encyclopedic" and "cited all the necessary info" is unrelated to the actual deletion rationale. The page didn't just have a promotional tone, it was practically an advertisement. A small sample of the completely inappropriate content:
- "Revolutionizing the Indian street-side tea experiences, The Chai Walah focuses on hygiene and quality with their every cup of freshly brewed handcrafted tea"
- "Faisal picked up the ropes of tea-making, fuelled by his nostalgia and passion to trace his Indian roots"
- "His friends and family noticed the zeal and enthusiasm behind his love for tea"
- "Smart and Mobile, THE CHAI WALAH popup cart is a stunner"
- "With a vision to transform the way how India drinks tea from a roadside tea stall by serving the most hygienic cup of chai on-the-go and disrupt the industry with cutting edge tech, The Chai Walah is striving hard to bring the best for the tealovers"
- These aren't cherry-picked, the entire article was written this way. The sources are all pretty much paid placements, followed by a spammy external links section with a list of social media sites. There is nothing salvageable and the entire page was a violation of WP:NOTPROMOTION. I don't understand how an editor who has been here as long as you have, with so many edits, could write such a blatant advertisement. Do you have a conflict of interest with regard to the topic? File:The Chai Walah Founder.jpeg, which you uploaded, is a copyright violation, which I will be deleting as soon as I hit save on this post. It fails non-free content criteria number 1, specifically "No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." As long as it is possible that there could be a free image of the subject available for use, or there could be one available in the future, then fair use cannot be claimed for the copyrighted image of this BLP subject.-- Ponyobons mots 16:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
UPDATE: Editwar on Drag Race Italia (season 2)
Hi,I'm here to update you on the situation, since the report has been made (we are still awaiting an outcome) the IP user continues to insist with the inclusion of a source not inherent with what the table says. So, I'm a native Italian speaker and the source with which they "states" his facts actually simply links to a section related to the show on how and where to watch it in streaming (things that if you think about it have nothing to do with the competitors' hometowns).
I tried to explain the situation to them on wiki.it as well, where they have the same modus operandi and it led to the partial blocking of the page for "Editwar", the problem is that after 7 IP addresses changed (since they change every time I left a message on the Talk page) and with as many edit warnings as well, they continues with their recidivist behavior without being opening up to dialogue at all. So I'm here to kindly ask for your help in this situation, just as you fixed the big "False Authoritative Sources" flaw on "RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 4)". --- « Ðømīnīk • Cåpuån » 16:28, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I would suggest you get a third opinion from a neutral editor.-- Ponyobons mots 20:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Good evening, from Portugal,
with 99,999999999999999% of certainty (a checkuser will upgrade that to 100% i'm sure), the three IPs shown in Nuno Tavares are from this lousy sock, please deal with them accordingly.
Attentively 2001:8A0:7643:2400:20F7:F51C:6DBA:9E73 (talk) 21:01, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- The sock reverted me again (and i re-reverted!), sorry to keep bothering you. --2001:8A0:7643:2400:F803:2FB9:E22C:F0F (talk) 02:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
- The place to report this would be Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Martimc123.-- Ponyobons mots 19:56, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
User Asphonixm
Hi Ponyo. I just ran across some concerning edits from Asphonixm [3][4], only to see you'd already discussed similar problems from this editor a few weeks ago. Had you seen the edits at Jane Russell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)? I'm not sure what to make of the editing: At least this is someone that's overambitious before understanding WP:RS and WP:NOT. --Hipal (talk) 00:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Well i just cant see the incorrect information on her brother knowledge panel that stated they all was still alive, so i make those edit in order to added the information of their death date and death place to their panel, because sometimes edit on google panel cannot be triggered without including the information from Wikipedia as a source Asphonixm (talk) 09:33, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Asphonixm: Content in the google knowledge panel should never, ever, ever, be used as a source on Wikipedia. Ever. You really need to move away from trying to jam unsourced and poorly sourced biographical statistics in articles until you have a firm grasp on WP:BLP, WP:DOB, WP:BLPNAME and sourcing requirements. I see you've added "Proud to be the part of Wikipedia genealogy community" to your userpage. What community would that be? Is it a coordinated Wikiproject? Have you seen point 4 of WP:NOTDIRECTORY, which specifically states that Wikipedia is not a venue to post extensive family histories?-- Ponyobons mots 20:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Yea i know and iam sorry Asphonixm (talk) 09:10, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Sock
Hey, see this user User:Raydann is a sock Confirmed to User:Xovot same edits and doing same antivandalism work also see this [5]. 117.226.181.167 (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Please make a case at WP:SPI if you believe there is socking/block evasion.-- Ponyobons mots 20:32, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Not likely. Just blocked Special:contributions/117.226.181.0/24 for 6 months for block evasion. Not that I know what block they are evading. I'm going by a block by Blablubbs by another IP in the range for evasion. See here.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm shocked...SHOCKED(!!!) by this unforeseeable turn of events.-- Ponyobons mots 22:28, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Here you go.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Don't temp me.-- Ponyobons mots 23:20, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Here you go.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm shocked...SHOCKED(!!!) by this unforeseeable turn of events.-- Ponyobons mots 22:28, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Not likely. Just blocked Special:contributions/117.226.181.0/24 for 6 months for block evasion. Not that I know what block they are evading. I'm going by a block by Blablubbs by another IP in the range for evasion. See here.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Plasamas
Looks like their TPA needs to be pulled, following your very timely block. WindTempos (talk • contribs) 23:29, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- She's busy recovering from shock.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Understandably so, thanks for dealing with them. WindTempos (talk • contribs) 23:41, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you @Liz:.-- Ponyobons mots 15:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- I bet Deepfriedokra, the CEO of UTRS, wouldn't thank her.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- No, they're too busy working away at the behest of Yamla's pleasure .-- Ponyobons mots 15:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Let me be perfectly clear. Yamla is Emperox of UTRS. I am but a minion. On the other hand, they pull that at UTRS, and they will be banned there as well. Original account holder will need to contact T&S anyway. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Wooo! I should ask for a raise. Double my current salary! Double everyone's current salary! --Yamla (talk) 16:50, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- The hell with salaries. I want to be an hourly employee. An administrator union (sort of like adminion?). Collective bargaining with the big bad WMF. Additional perks like payments for each block, payments for each deleted
piece of garbagepage, meals on Willywheels, and a retirement pension. We can become LTAs (Liberate The Admins).--Bbb23 (talk) 17:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)- Yes, please. Where can I sign up. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- The hell with salaries. I want to be an hourly employee. An administrator union (sort of like adminion?). Collective bargaining with the big bad WMF. Additional perks like payments for each block, payments for each deleted
- Wooo! I should ask for a raise. Double my current salary! Double everyone's current salary! --Yamla (talk) 16:50, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Let me be perfectly clear. Yamla is Emperox of UTRS. I am but a minion. On the other hand, they pull that at UTRS, and they will be banned there as well. Original account holder will need to contact T&S anyway. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- No, they're too busy working away at the behest of Yamla's pleasure .-- Ponyobons mots 15:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- I bet Deepfriedokra, the CEO of UTRS, wouldn't thank her.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you @Liz:.-- Ponyobons mots 15:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Understandably so, thanks for dealing with them. WindTempos (talk • contribs) 23:41, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Assistance with COI and copyright please
Hi, can I have some assistance with user:Grahamceline please. I noticed a COI and copyright issue at article Intelitek. I added the copyvio rev del tag to the article after reverting and left a message about COI and about copyright on their talk page. I could use some assistance in explaining all this to the user if that's OK? Knitsey (talk) 15:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Knitsey: I've added some information and policy links for Grahamceline. I've also removed a question you had asked of them; please don't ever openly speculate on the identity of an editor outside of Wikipedia, it's considered WP:OUTING.-- Ponyobons mots 16:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh wow, I'm really sorry about that. Thank you for correcting it. Knitsey (talk) 16:03, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Can I also check, I could only find one COI template. Is there another one that doesn't mention the user name issue? Knitsey (talk) 16:11, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- {{subst:uw-coi}}-- Ponyobons mots 16:21, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Knitsey (talk) 16:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
On a userpage that you had deleted
Hi, there is userpage that you had deleted at User:AudiGuy-1204/Deleted redirects/DS 7. It was originally moved from DS 7 after the user got presumably (inferring from the edit summaries of both pages) impatient after a failed requested move discussion to move DS 7 Crossback to DS 7, and possibly a request to deleted the DS 7 redirect. @AudiGuy-1204 then performed at cut and paste move, and even issued a uw to himself. It was later, within 24 hours, @A7V2 requested at WP:RM/TR to revert the move. I would like to check with you to see if there's any significant edit history at the now deleted redirect and its talk page. If there is, can you have it undeleted and do a history merge back to DS 7? A deletion of the current DS 7 page and moving the previous redirect may work as well. Thanks! – robertsky (talk) 01:44, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Robertsky: The page was a redirect only. The first edit created a redirect to DS 7 Crossback, a second edit changed the redirect to DS7. AudiGuy then made the following three edits:
- (diff) 18:30, 28 October 2022 . . AudiGuy-1204 (talk | contribs | block) 9 bytes
- (diff) 18:23, 28 October 2022 . . AudiGuy-1204 (talk | contribs | block) m 68 bytes (AudiGuy-1204 moved page DS 7 to User:AudiGuy-1204/Deleted redirects/DS 7: Gonna move that page after facelift changing name)
- (diff) 18:21, 28 October 2022 . . AudiGuy-1204 (talk | contribs | block) 68 bytes (Speedy) Tag: Removed redirectI can restore it if you want to take a look.
- The edit at 18:30 blanked the page and added the U1 CSD tag. Do you want me to restore the page so you can take a look?-- Ponyobons mots 20:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
No need to restore. Thanks for the detailed follow up. 🙂 – robertsky (talk) 22:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Random deletion requests
Hope you are doing well. I had submitted a page for creation and it was approved and since then random people keep trying it up for deletion. Anything I can do? You had helped me last time too, thank you! Itsalldestiny (talk) 19:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think we've ever interacted before, can you provide a link to our previous discussion?-- Ponyobons mots 20:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- It was only 10 months ago. What's wrong with you?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- A polar bear, a skeleton and a scantily-clad Thor just walked by my window. I am très distracted at the moment!-- Ponyobons mots 20:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Please e-mail me the video.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- If only! I had a spell of the vapours and have only now recovered.-- Ponyobons mots 20:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Please e-mail me the video.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Are you stalking me? Thats creepy lol. Itsalldestiny (talk) 21:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- A polar bear, a skeleton and a scantily-clad Thor just walked by my window. I am très distracted at the moment!-- Ponyobons mots 20:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=OtakuKart&oldid=1068510289 Itsalldestiny (talk) 21:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Itsalldestiny: My only edits to the article were to decline a speedy deletion and WP:PROD. I even specifically recommended in my edit summary that the article should be nominated for deletion if there are concerns regarding notability/sourcing. The community will review the article and discuss whether it meets the criteria for inclusion; this is the normal functioning of Wikipedia and determining consensus.-- Ponyobons mots 21:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Noted, thank you @Ponyo Itsalldestiny (talk) 21:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Itsalldestiny: My only edits to the article were to decline a speedy deletion and WP:PROD. I even specifically recommended in my edit summary that the article should be nominated for deletion if there are concerns regarding notability/sourcing. The community will review the article and discuss whether it meets the criteria for inclusion; this is the normal functioning of Wikipedia and determining consensus.-- Ponyobons mots 21:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- It was only 10 months ago. What's wrong with you?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Quick check if you have the time
[6] and [7] are pretty obviously the same vandal. Got a moment to check if they have any sleepers kicking around? Thanks, as usual. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:54, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- There were a ton of blocked accounts, plus these, now also blocked:
- The contribs probably all need a once-over in case something slipped through. -- Ponyobons mots 22:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. That's a lot of accounts just to add "horny" to section headings. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure I know the master account.-- Ponyobons mots 22:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I have to admit, I did chuckle at this for some reason. I just looked through all the edits and it seems repaired, mostly because they only seem to vandalize articles that are being actively edited. Odd pattern. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- You chuckled because it's hilarious. It's so stunningly stupid that you have to laugh. I really like Mark Ruffalo, but I have to imagine I would love Duck Buffalo.-- Ponyobons mots 22:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think I'm in love. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Swoon.-- Ponyobons mots 22:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Another one, when you have the time. [8] Admitted that they're actively socking. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see any other accounts. Liberal use of semi-protection is probably the best route.; most of their target articles could use it as they're perennial targets for socking in general.-- Ponyobons mots 16:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I should probably take a look at those articles when I get home from work, then. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Another for you, I think it's pretty clear quacking, but I'd like to make sure. [9] [10] ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:42, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see any other accounts. Liberal use of semi-protection is probably the best route.; most of their target articles could use it as they're perennial targets for socking in general.-- Ponyobons mots 16:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Another one, when you have the time. [8] Admitted that they're actively socking. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Swoon.-- Ponyobons mots 22:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think I'm in love. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- You chuckled because it's hilarious. It's so stunningly stupid that you have to laugh. I really like Mark Ruffalo, but I have to imagine I would love Duck Buffalo.-- Ponyobons mots 22:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I have to admit, I did chuckle at this for some reason. I just looked through all the edits and it seems repaired, mostly because they only seem to vandalize articles that are being actively edited. Odd pattern. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure I know the master account.-- Ponyobons mots 22:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. That's a lot of accounts just to add "horny" to section headings. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Another check
Hopefully you haven't left for the evening. Does Constructioncourse = ZestyLemonz?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yarp. Blocked now.-- Ponyobons mots 15:58, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, ma'am.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Replying to your email now...-- Ponyobons mots 16:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, got it. I wanna think about it some more. Nothing like a little procrastination to clear a fuzzy brain. Thai food tonight'll help, too.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Mmmmm, Thai. We're going Mediterranean tonight. Flatbread from scratch with sundried tomatoes, artichokes, kalamata olives etc. By the way, regarding this sock you blocked yesterday, there were some other accounts kicking about. I'll dump them in the SPI once I finish the check. -- Ponyobons mots 17:46, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Ta da: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Prince Of Roblox.-- Ponyobons mots 17:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- So many socks. Is flatbread from scratch difficult to do?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I want to say yes because that would be impressive. But it's not.-- Ponyobons mots 18:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Flatbread is for people with no culture. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:08, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Cute. I've tried my hand at sourdough but my baking talents didn't rise to the occasion.-- Ponyobons mots 18:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Flatbread is for people with no culture. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:08, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- I want to say yes because that would be impressive. But it's not.-- Ponyobons mots 18:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- So many socks. Is flatbread from scratch difficult to do?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Ta da: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Prince Of Roblox.-- Ponyobons mots 17:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Mmmmm, Thai. We're going Mediterranean tonight. Flatbread from scratch with sundried tomatoes, artichokes, kalamata olives etc. By the way, regarding this sock you blocked yesterday, there were some other accounts kicking about. I'll dump them in the SPI once I finish the check. -- Ponyobons mots 17:46, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, got it. I wanna think about it some more. Nothing like a little procrastination to clear a fuzzy brain. Thai food tonight'll help, too.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Replying to your email now...-- Ponyobons mots 16:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, ma'am.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Oversight assistance
Hi @Ponyo, and other talk page watchers. I am requesting a suppression of this diff, this one, and maybe this one too. The IP vandal, although WHOIS shows Canada, added some strong language and threat on my talk page in Chinese !! Would really appreciate an oversight here. Thanks. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 05:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Raydann: Although the edits do not qualify for oversight, I have deleted them per revision deletion criteria #2.-- Ponyobons mots 15:20, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- Ah I see. I confused revdel with oversight. RevDel is what I wanted in the first place. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for deleting it. Best. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 16:15, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- No worries. I'm sorry you had to be on the receiving end of such nastiness.-- Ponyobons mots 16:17, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- Ah I see. I confused revdel with oversight. RevDel is what I wanted in the first place. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for deleting it. Best. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 16:15, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Another sockpuppet
- Leo of Monterrey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Should be yet another sockpuppet of VideoGamer123456 / McPlectrum. Throast {{ping}} me! (talk | contribs) 00:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Unrelated technically. Throast Please make new reports at WP:SPI.-- Ponyobons mots 19:59, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Huh. I guess I should reflect on my judgment. Throast {{ping}} me! (talk | contribs) 20:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
I don’t get it. What happened? Leo of Monterrey (talk) 00:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
I continue to maintain
that the DS policy was applied unreasonably, regardless of whether it was "to the letter," and that the policy should be clarified with bright white lines that those who are not PAG experts can easily understand. The article in question was not in AP2 space, so a reasonable person would conclude it was not under DS, otherwise why even have DS notices in the first place? I stand by my characterization of the blocking editor's action, which supplements the observations of others in the thread. soibangla (talk) 22:51, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm well aware that you "continue to maintain". Including here, now. The IP was bang on in their response to you at the AN thread; please move along.-- Ponyobons mots 23:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- I am long accustomed to being told by many that I'm wrong, only to be later shown correct, and one doesn't need to look any farther than the discussion and ultimate outcome at Talk:Recession to see the perfect example of it. The entire episode was a disgrace. I've said my piece and I'm done. soibangla (talk) 23:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- I will hold you to that.-- Ponyobons mots 23:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Just to ensure there's no misunderstanding, "I'm done" should not be broadly construed. I may in the future seek policy clarification and reform. Per policy, I may be wrong. Alternatively, maybe the policy is wrong. I believe it is. soibangla (talk) 16:48, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- I will hold you to that.-- Ponyobons mots 23:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- I am long accustomed to being told by many that I'm wrong, only to be later shown correct, and one doesn't need to look any farther than the discussion and ultimate outcome at Talk:Recession to see the perfect example of it. The entire episode was a disgrace. I've said my piece and I'm done. soibangla (talk) 23:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)