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Ksax1245

I must do a CU on that tomorrow. Any chance you can remind of the other accounts. I’ve seen them but can’t recall them. Thanks Doug Weller talk 19:54, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

There's a common thread that will be apparent:

• Saxsd12 (talk · contribs)
• Asax547 (talk · contribs)
• Ksax1245 (talk · contribs) Acroterion (talk) 03:22, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

  Very useful. Asax547 is the sockmaster, all blocked and tagged now and SPI filled out. Thanks for the help. Doug Weller talk 13:53, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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Irish Nobleman Naming Controversy

Thank you for dealing with the tantrum quickly. Robert McClenon (talk) 08:15, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey

Can you add protection to this page so only administrators can edit it

User:Person12100 — Preceding unsigned comment added by WashingtonFan9879 (talk • contribs) 23:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Why? Acroterion (talk) 00:45, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

So that people cant vandalize it WashingtonFan9879 (talk) 04:37, 2 January 2022 (UTC)User:WashingtonFan9879

It’s not being vandalized, there’s no reason to protect it. At most we would semi-protect it. Your focus on protections and blocks is less than helpful to the encyclopedia. Acroterion (talk) 05:49, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

As I was saying earlier in new words

I am transferring control of Person12100 that means protecting the page for infinite to administrators to you guys. I am doing this because I dont want that page to be vandalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WashingtonFan9879 (talk • contribs) 04:52, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

”Transferring control?” What’s that supposed to mean? Acroterion (talk) 05:46, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

As I was saying

Protect Person12100 for infinite so that only admins can edit it--04:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)WashingtonFan9879 (talk)User:WashingtonFan9879

No. Acroterion (talk)

It appears that WashingtonFan created the page User:Person12100 though the account exists and was created a day ago EvergreenFir (talk) 06:55, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes - they seem to be awfully interested in playing with block templates and such. Acroterion (talk) 14:05, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

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Conspiracy theory?

[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.69.229 (talk) 01:56, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Point? Acroterion (talk) 02:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

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2600:387:F:0:0:0:0:0/48

2600:387:F:0:0:0:0:0/48 (talk · contribs) continues spamming several talk pages. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 18:55, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured they'd catch on. I have an edit filter request in that should deal with it. Acroterion (talk) 19:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

The edit filter is up and running. Acroterion (talk) 02:27, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Another list I am Playing with

Does this have any obvious use? Inspired of course by the recent tragedy. Oddly, the City of Brotherly Love has never suffered a "great fire." I suppose the wide streets help. --PaulinSaudi (talk) 16:56, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Sure. We've got List of nightclub fires, List of hotel fires in the United States, and List of town and city fires. The only city lists are List of fires in Kyoto and Fires in Edo. I would call such an article List of notable fires in Philadelphia. Acroterion (talk) 17:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

I am stuck on the title as many or most of the entries do not meet the standard of notability. Maybe Fires in Philadelphia? --PaulinSaudi (talk) 11:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Attention

Hi I would like to get attention at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer and there are many other requests thanks! Yodas henchman (talk) 03:59, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Edit was not vandalism

The stuff I removed was all unnecessary conspiracy theory garbage that was only there to push a very specific agenda, either stuff about Epstein wedged into the "citation" parts of other people's entries or unnecessary links to CFR and Bilderberg to insinuate a conspiracy (these are favored targets of people like Alex Jones). I think that it is constructive to remove stuff like that, not vandalism. 2601:647:C981:4D0:2DF8:6EB3:A3EE:EF00 (talk) 13:38, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Since the removals have now been challenged by two editors, you should discuss them on the article talk page and get consensus before removing the material again. Thank you. Lard Almighty (talk) 13:47, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh yes, I didn't realize how important it was to you that people know that "David Rubenstein building is just west of the Les Wexner#Jeffrey Epstein association|Leslie Wexner building". My bad. Definitely my removing this was vandalism. Good catch. 2601:647:C981:4D0:2DF8:6EB3:A3EE:EF00 (talk) 13:54, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

And drop the snark. Yes, that article is a conspiracy-magnet, but you can work with other editors. Acroterion (talk) 13:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Just removing big blocks of text with no explanation isn't productive. Please use the talkpage to gain consensus for targeted revisions. Acroterion (talk) 13:55, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Nah, I'll just leave it, since it's clear that at least two editors are willing to fight to keep it in. I'll just take my snark elsewhere and you deal with cleaning up after the tinfoil hatters (or, not, whatever). 2601:647:C981:4D0:2DF8:6EB3:A3EE:EF00 (talk) 13:59, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Fire!

Thanks for highlighting that text. People are dipping in and adding material that doesn't belong in the article. At one point a user, totally in good faith added a lengthy description of responding fire units, taken from a blog. Since you seem interested in fire-related subjects. I've proposed a name change to Skyscraper fire and would value your input. Coretheapple (talk) 19:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

As an architect, it's a matter of professional interest for me. I wrote the Winecoff Hotel fire article (since cluttered with poorly sourced lists of victims) and discussed the impact it had on building codes. I'm not so sure about "skyscraper" as a defining term - my personal definition would be for something to be at least 30 stories before it becomes a "skyscraper." A 19-story building in New York is rather stumpy.

Interestingly, the Winecoff ended up adding a fire escape after the fire to supplement the single stairway through which the fire spread..

The Dupont Plaza Hotel arson (~17 stories) and MGM Grand fire (26-stories) articles provide context on smoke-related fire disasters in tall buildings. Acroterion (talk) 19:55, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

BLP trolling filter

Might want to take a look at recent logs of 1125 (hist · log). The recent active range might be a good target for a rangeblock, although there are (presumably) good contributions even on the /64 which is confusing. It could be dynamic, but given how active it is on Wikipedia (and the subject interest, and some other factors) I'm not sure that's the case. Not entirely sure what's going on there. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

2600:387:F::/48 is a fairly active range, with at least a decent proportion of good edits [2], and I think it would take a /48 block to cover the range they're using, though we could cover what they've used so far with 2600:387:f:5610::8/51 [3]. I would be reluctant to block the range if the edit filter is doing what it needs to do. The disruption is so specific that I think the filter is the best solution, and I think they'll get tired after a while. Acroterion (talk) 16:14, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Help with a new(ish) editor

Hi Acroterion. You closed one of the ANIs involving Invasive Spices awhile back[4], so I'm seeing if you could be of any help with additional issues? I asked El_C who closed this ANI[5], but they're too busy right now. In short, same message I sent to El C would apply to you. I see you're busy too though, but I was hoping someone uninvolved might be able to turn them away from the cliff they're heading towards with battleground behavior directed towards editors who are generally being friendly to them. I've tried a little bit at User_talk:Invasive_Spices#Tone_on_talk_pages to little progress. Thanks either way. KoA (talk) 01:52, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to keep an eye out for trouble. I see a continuation of their assumptions, or at least implications of bad faith under circumstances that would normally be worked out without so much resentment. I agree, a block is not what we want, but taking potshots at everybody they encounter is not a good trend. Their response at ANI where they tried to make my effort to keep them out of trouble as its own problem was not a good way for them to behave. It's hard to respond to someone who behaves like that. Acroterion (talk) 02:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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Request

Hello, I would like to request revdel of this diff [6] per RD3, made by Gobbsession (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) . Thank you. xRENEGADEx ^{(talk | contribs)} 03:43, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

It’s a little marginal, but talkpage s aren’t meant to be fora for peoples’ paraphilia. Acroterion (talk) 03:56, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I wasn't quite sure if it met the criteria, but I went ahead and asked anyway just in case; no harm, no foul, right? xRENEGADEx ^{(talk | contribs)} 04:16, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Request

I'm not sure if this [7] quite meets the revdel criteria, as it's a copyvio but the image didn't actually end up displaying. Mind taking a look? xRENEGADEx ^{(talk | contribs)} 04:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

No, simply trying to use an image via an external link wouldn't be a copyvio. It's a common error. Even if they'd copied it into Commons, we'd generally just revert it and go over to Commons to ask for speedy deletion there. Acroterion (talk) 04:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Ah ok, thank you. xRENEGADEx ^{(talk | contribs)} 04:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

TPA

Hi Acroterion. Could you please revoke talk page access for Fast Cocon? You blocked them last year but they are continuing to spam on their user talk page. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for letting me know. Acroterion (talk) 19:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Nihilism

hey, so i posted a couple topics on the Nihilism talk page, a couple weeks ago, maybe, and there are no responses. i think the majority of that page is either wrong or largely irrelevant to nihilism (and most of it is sourced regarding the topic in question, like Buddhism or Kierkegaard, but there are no sources or explanation for how it relates to nihilism, to which i'd say...it doesn't), but don't know how to "get consensus" to make major edits if no one's responding. so...what can i do? Sera Toxin (talk) 08:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Your talkpage notes are sourceless general discussions of your views on the subject, while you removed sourced material from the article. You will need to provide suggested references that support your assertions, and you will need to show, via sources, why the referenced material that you want to remove is wrongly attributed or incorrect. Acroterion (talk) 13:08, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

well, that's almost entirely untrue. i referenced specific essays and books, writers, and insurgents...and most of what i tried to remove was unsourced regarding any connection to nihilism. it's "sourced" in the sense that there are sources confirming that what's said is accurate, but no attempt is made in many cases to show how it relates to nihilism. furthermore, some of the sources (like the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy) are dubious secondary sources that really shouldn't be accepted as sources in the first place (especially considering the errors that went into the Nihilism page referenced on wikipedia, like a large portion of that page being centered on the attribution of Will to Power to Nietzsche, when it's well-known now that it wasn't actually him who wrote it).

so, i'll assume by "sourceless" what you mean is that i didn't provide links to the essays and other material i referenced? i've been pretty busy lately, i hardly have time for this, but i'll look into collecting some links when i can, if that's what you're asking for. Sera Toxin (talk) 07:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

You will need to provide very specific references to accomplish much, and detailed suggestions for edits, not just broad mentions of authors and essays. Other editors will need to have a basis for evaluating your suggestions; if you have the references, you should be able to be more specific than "so-and-so says this." It's certainly possible that earlier editors made assertions that aren't supported in the article, but you'll need to make a case to support your removals, rather than broad statements. I am aware of the difficulty of proving a negative, but since you were making wholesale removals, you'll need to make an effort. I am not a subject matter expert, I have been responding to your removals, which will need to find consensus among editors who can properly evaluate your changes before they will stick. This is not a highly-trafficked article, and a request for comment may be needed to attract interest once you've made your case, with specifics. Acroterion (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Assyria730BC

I saw that you blocked Assyria730BC last month and wanted to say that they have returned to removing well-sourced information (which mostly have been reverted by me now). --Semsûrî (talk) 17:39, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks like Widr took care of it. I wasn't able to do a proper investigation at the time, but I agree with his action. Acroterion (talk) 19:04, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Comment

You must not believe supply/demand is a real thing. You must have also not seen the warning before reading the page regarding Hispanic stereotypes: This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. (Learn how and when to remove these template messages) This section contains wording that promotes the subject in a subjective manner without imparting real information. (August 2017) This section may be unbalanced towards certain viewpoints. (August 2017) This article possibly contains original research. (August 2017) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CincoMayoBurger (talk • contribs) 14:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a platform for your personal analysis. And this edit [8] is a very bad look. Acroterion (talk) 18:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Supply & Demand is Made Up

So, you agree that supply and demand is a theory that doesn't hold water? You should really alert the economists! We all know the only workable economic system is to have an untethered capitalist world economy where national boundaries don't matter. Only then will we see a median rise in wages for the working class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CincoMayoBurger (talk • contribs) 15:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia still isn't a platform for your personal analyses. Acroterion (talk) 01:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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Battle for Dream Island

Hello. In May 2013 you caused the speedy deletion of the article Battle for Dream Island under criterion A7. In future, if you feel that an article is missing something, please consider adding it instead of unceremoniously destroying other people’s work. You are the reason nobody I know bothers contributing to Wikipedia anymore because “what’s the point, it gets deleted anyway”. Consider fostering a more productive environment. Thank you for your time. Timwi (talk) 01:11, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

You're here to make personal attacks about a speedy deletion request from nine years ago, for something that was plainly short of notability standards at that time? How nice. And I didn't delete it, another administrator did, because I don't self-delete speedy nominations. Don't berate editors who nominate articles for deletion. And you're an administrator yourself, and expected to know better. Acroterion (talk) 01:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

My apologies — I’m trying to be constructive. Obviously there are plenty of “contributions” that warrant a speedy deletion. I’m trying to highlight that this was a case where, even if it fits a speedy-deletion criterion, the more sensible thing to do would have been to make the small change necessary to honor the work and effort someone put into writing it. I apologize for the overly personal tone of my prior message, but it captures my frustration. Literally all of my friends are in the “why bother, it gets deleted anyway” camp and that should worry us. We are losing valuable contributions on a global scale this way and this is not in the spirit of a wiki. Timwi (talk) 15:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

That's one of the reasons why draft space was created - in December 2013, in fact. One purpose was to cut down the number of A7 deletions, giving them space to mature if it could be accomplished. It has worked pretty well, and though I don't have any statistics at hand, I believe the number of speedy deletions and specifically speedies based on notability have dramatically declined. At least, I rarely see them for much other than spam or vandalism, since the non-notable or marginally notable articles get moved by non-admins into draftspace rather than tagged for deletion. So, in the context of articles getting deleted, the complaint voiced by your friends has been addressed for the past eight years. If they're adding poorly-sourced material, that's a different issue, since the sourcing standards and overall level of sourcing are dramatically better than they were ten years ago. Acroterion (talk) 20:37, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Thai Airways

Hi there! I made a request to move page name on Talk:Thai Airways International.. would you mind take a look and comment if you'll support or oppose. Thanks! Cornerstone2.0 (talk) 04:22, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

No, I'm not participating in that sort of discussion. Acroterion (talk) 04:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

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I don't understand much about Wikipedia's editing functionalities but...

But I never in my life even visitied the page Im told I edited (https://i.imgur.com/VO3bIfI.png). Now I think Im being told that "You have been blocked from editing for violations of Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy." So im completly confused.

The only thing I remember editing some time ago (I think) it was the Germanic New Medicine page. Changes that were reverted almost immediately. If this was you, let me tell you... there's a lot of harm being made to humanity by lying so much and by being functional to the systems methods of confusion. People need to know that the germ theory is a lie and the territory is everything. The GNM explains this perfectly. Anyway, I don't care about being blocked here, it does not surprise me tbh. Sorry for my poor english. Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.167.115.74 (talk) 18:50, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

You don't have to guess about what this IP did and didn't edit, since all the edits made from it are listed here. You should consider the possibility that the IP number you have now is not the IP number you had in the past - that your account was re-assigned to another IP number in the meantime. Many providers do that frequently. If that's the case, ask your Internet provider about it, or create a Wikipedia account for yourself. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:57, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

However, if you're planning on making edits to the point that "germ theory is a lie", you probably shouldn't even bother, because you wouldn't last very long as an editor here. We don't exist to promote WP:FRINGE theories. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Somebody did something bad in 2020 using the IP that was eventually reassigned to you by your ISP. You can disregard the warning. Acroterion (talk) 23:35, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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Sock question

I know you blocked the user a fairly long time ago, but do you think that NapoleonX = Chesapeake77? I'm looking at the moves, the detailed similar edit summaries associated with the moves, and the edits to the Al Gore Talk page (political articles). I don't have as much to go on with Chesapeake77 as they started editing only a week ago (and they certainly don't act like a new editor).--Bbb23 (talk) 18:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm not feeling it very strongly. NapoleonX is excessively concerned with what they think are correct names, and spends a lot of time fussing with titles and intros. Sooner or later they come back to Mount Rainier and try to take out Tacoma/Tahoma with a lengthy edit summary. I think Chesapeake77 is somebody's sock, but I don't think it's NapoleonX. Acroterion (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

They both edited dog articles; does that count? Thanks for your thoughts.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't rule them out. Diagnostic edit summaries for me are things like this, focusing on naming: [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] The Holly Williams edits are the closest things I see to NapoleonX's naming focus. Acroterion (talk) 20:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

The reason I even found NapoleonX was because of the intersection of the two editors at Holly Williams (American singer-songwriter) with NapoleonX and Chesapeake77.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:13, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

These edits complicate things.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, let's keep an eye on them, and if it is NapoleonX they'll show their hand sooner or later. Acroterion (talk) 21:24, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Edits

I am sorry I will not do that anymore. Hi I am 1000 (talk) 02:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Three minutes after this timestamp, new user made this edit. BusterD (talk) 02:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Oliver tractors

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DYK for Hoosier Slide

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DGG

saw your actions, you might also want to have a look at 2A00:1FA0:4469:1975:0:63:8FCF:2501 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s edits this morning. Fram reverted but I don't think anyone took admin action. I didn't as I'm only tangentially familiar with the editor Star Mississippi 01:54, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I suspect we'll all get familiar with this sock, at least until some edit filters slow them down. Acroterion (talk) 01:57, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

149.57.28.205

Please block 149.57.28.0/24 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)), it is a new Windscribe VPN range. wizzito | say hello! 03:25, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Scrap that, please block this range instead: 149.57.0.0/16 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)). The whole /16 is the VPN. wizzito | say hello! 03:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Not exactly a busy range, but Nate will have to find somewhere else to play for a while. Acroterion (talk) 03:32, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Request for Page Unprotection

Hi Acroterion, This is just to let you know that I have requested the unprotection of C.S. Lewis at WP:RFPP. I had already filled out the form there before noticing the "take it to the original protecting admin" clause. According to the protection log, that is you; accordingly, I have left this note on your talk page. ChromaNebula (talk) 22:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Done. Hopefully the national partisans have given up. Acroterion (talk) 22:21, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I've also filed a request for this task to be done by a bot (i.e., notifying admins about old indef-protected pages). ChromaNebula (talk) 03:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Feelin' the love

wowza. Thanks for that. I'm getting a feeling he doesn't like me much. Sniff. Antandrus (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

BLPvio recidivism

Hi Acroterion. I was wondering if you could have a look at this edit by Mbsyl (talk · contribs) and their response to the warning they received? I was going to give them a DS notice for BLP and FRINGE (in the course of a larger warning for edit warring, egregious personal attacks, and GENSEX violations), and then saw that you've already sanctioned them for BLP issues in the past. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 23:26, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Crikey. I see you've warned them, so I'll hold off and see what happens, but it's going to mean a block if it recurs. Thanks for the note. Acroterion (talk) 23:37, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

I see GeneralNotability indeffed them - I did not check the Andraka edit. I concur with the block. Acroterion (talk) 00:45, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

It only belatedly occurred to me what their username is if you try to say it aloud. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 17:49, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi I accidentally vandalized a page

The page was Peter Phillips. I fell asleep and didn't realize until now. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ioooaoaoap (talk • contribs) 15:37, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

This [15] certainly wasn't "accidental," but Cluebot reverted it. So my answer would be to never do that again. Acroterion (talk) 15:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

British Isles naming.

Hi Acroterion, you have flagged that my recent edit of the British isles is interpreted as my own personal view. However this is not the case, the term 'the British isles' has not been used for many years in any official capacity by either the Irish or the British government and it is advice is not to use the terminology anymore. The term 'the British isles' is entirely subjective, and its consistent use is no longer apt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.76.202.225 (talk) 13:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Encyclopedia articles are not soapboxes for complaints or personal analysis about perceived imperialism through naming, or the legacy of imperialism, and this has been discussed may times before. Until a consensus term is adopted and in wide use throughout the English-speaking world, the name will remain as it is on Wikipedia. See WP:COMMONNAME for the guideline, which applies to many such nationalistic disputes. And we have an article on the topic, British Isles naming dispute, which covers it in some depth, with sources. Acroterion (talk) 13:16, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

And if you wish the British Isles to no longer be the commonly used name, I suggest you start with the Irish government and get them to stop using it. While the government of Ireland uses it internally, the argument can't really go any further. Canterbury Tail talk 13:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Please answer me

Hi. Can someone please answer me here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here? Anyone? Karamellpudding1999 (talk) 13:51, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

I have no interest in the matter, and you should not forum-shop like that. Acroterion (talk) 17:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

I gone cross-eyed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Smited

I see you smited my friend. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:00, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm in a less smitey mood today than yesterday, at least. If Comcast hadn't been down at lunchtime there would have been more that got smote. Acroterion (talk) 13:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I think you were both amazingly mild-mannered in your smiting. Bishonen (smitten) | tålk 13:47, 22 February 2022 (UTC).

Unlike the biblical Deity, I need a functioning internet connection to exercise my wroth. Acroterion (talk) 17:46, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Block evasion

Hi. The Ukraine troll is back with a new IP [16]. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Blocked. Acroterion (talk) 02:04, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Delete history

Hello!

Can I ask you to delete history from my userpage? I saw your name on the list of administrators dealing with this kind of issue.

Thank you!

--Governor Sheng (talk) 15:49, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Do you want to delete it entirely, or just up to the present? Acroterion (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Up to the latest change. --Governor Sheng (talk) 19:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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Reversion of Fleisher to Polish in Rotoscope

Why did you revert? Fleisher was Jewish. The Poles did not consider him Polish, and he did not consider himself Polish. It is more accurate to characterize him as a Jewish-American, or alternatively as a Jewish immigrant from Poland. Palindromeami (talk) 18:55, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Per WP:MOSETHNICITY, we don't conflate ethnicity with nationality. It is also abused by editors who think they ought to tag Jews. Acroterion (talk) 00:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Email

Can I email you for RevDeletion? SoapDispenser94 (talk) 00:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Certainly. Acroterion (talk) 00:53, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

No. U.

I am not being disruptive, and you don't get to lecture me on such matters! Stop jumping to conclusions and actually do your job! Thecleanerand (talk) 13:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I do get to lecture you. That's why the community made me an administrator. Stop posting vexatious reports. Acroterion (talk) 13:32, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

I think you have left an unrelated notice in my talk

Hi User:Acroterion. Thanks for your notices. I couldn't understand why you have sent me a notice stating that I have shown interest in the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan. Are you sure I have done so? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meurglys8 (talk • contribs)

I'm sure. Tunceli Province is part of Turkish Kurdistan. Also, if I see you accuse another editor of vandalism like this [17] I will block you. Acroterion (talk)

I see your point of view. Although I've written nothing about the Kurds (I have Kurdish, Armenian, Turkish, Greek roots. I am an avid rival of any kind of nationalism.), you have such a claim.

1. By following your logic of calling Tunceli Province as Kurdistan, Eupen is Belgian Germany, Kardzhali is Bulgarian Turkey, Memphis is African USA. Would you also agree with these?

2. What is wrong with accusing someone as a vandal a. who claims the official army of a country is an invader of its own land, b. who deletes official statistical "real" data (please see the above percentage of Armenian-speaking community) for no reason, c. who adds a biased death toll (see: Dersim Rebellion for neutral sources of the death toll), and engaging in many more manipulation?

Poor Wikipedia. I thought it was a serious, neutral source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meurglys8 (talk • contribs) 22:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're trying to say in your first statement. If your'e trying to obscure or remove the existence of a geographical area called Kurdistan from Wikipedia, I am convinced that you should avoid that topic.You appear to be trying to denigrate people as vandals who dispute your edits. Disagreement with you does not make someone a vandal. If this kind of behavior continues, I will not hesitate to restrict or block your editing. Acroterion (talk) 23:36, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

The corresponding article claims the following "The Armenians lived quietly in their mountain villages until 1938, when Turkish Armed Forces soldiers invaded the region to put down a Dersim rebellion, and in the process blew up St Karapet's Monastery and killed around 60,000-70,000."

As it is not possible for the official army of a country to invade its own lands, the article is biased, misleading, and provides a perfect example of Hate speech and Wikipedia:Tendentious editing. By having a stance against removing this phrase you are violating Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy.

Regarding the first argument: If geographical areas should be called by names of the dominant ethnical groups residing there, Eupen should be called as Belgian Germany, Kardzhali should be called as Bulgarian Turkey, Memphis should be called as African USA or a similar term.

Hope we find constructive consensus. All the best! Meurglys8 (talk) 23:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

You've made your arguments at extensive length on the relevant talkpage. My concern is your behavior, not the content of your arguments.When you posted your complaint at ANI, you asked for the attention of administrators, who concern themselves with editor behavior. You are presenting yourself as a textbook example of a tendentious editor. Your addendum above is not helping your case. Acroterion (talk) 23:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Whenever I edited a phrase having Hate speech, Wikipedia:Tendentious editing or similar acts of violating Wikipedia's policies, Armenian nationalists persistently reverted my edits. Do neutral people need consensus with nationalist manipulators who resist on keeping phrases such as "The Armenians lived quietly in their mountain villages until 1938, when Turkish Armed Forces soldiers invaded the region to put down a Dersim rebellion, and in the process blew up St Karapet's Monastery and killed around 60,000-70,000."?

I see that Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary#Good reasons to revert supports my intention to contribute to Wikipedia by removing Hate speech and Wikipedia:Tendentious editing. Am I wrong? Should we keep phrases such as the ones in Tunceli Province#Demographics?

I really want to minimize your and my time to spend on this issue. My intention is to clear Wikipedia from hate speech and misleading claims. Meurglys8 (talk) 00:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

If I may interject. I must defend myself here because I feel Meurglys8 has made some serious accusations directed towards me. Claiming that editors are using "hate speech" against you or your edits is malicious in it of itself. None of the editors who have restored content have directed hate speech towards you or have acted "hatefull" in their edits. I myself have continued to maintain courteous dialogue with you. Your strong words against myself/others are completely unwarranted. You have also now bypassed our on-going conversation on Talk:List of European countries by population and started a new thread about the exact same topic we were discussing previously. This confirms that you are not genuinely interested in hearing the opinions of others. I apologize, Acroterion, for discussing this on your talk page but I am uneasy reading the negative comments above. Regards, Archives908 (talk) 00:28, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree, and have blocked them for personal attacks on those who dare to disagree with them. Acroterion (talk) 00:52, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Acroterion. Regards, Archives908 (talk) 01:45, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Deleted sockpuppet invistigation

You read my mind. :) That sockpuppet investigation you just deleted: I was just wondering if that should be closed or outright deleted.... —C.Fred (talk) 19:39, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Since it was clearly meant as retaliation and in bad faith, I deleted it. I wonder how an editor who was new today knew how to go there in the first place. Acroterion (talk) 19:40, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

IP blocked

Given Special:AbuseLog/32259383, it seems to me that the IP you just blocked, 66.165.1.180, was being used by an LTA. I don't know if that changes how long you want to block it for, or if you were already aware; just thought I should give you a heads-up. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 06:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

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why

There was an extra space on the Lex Luger page to the sentence stuck out a bit so I (me not you) removed it. Not a vandal edit not one with no sources so why did you revert it. Probably just jealous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Consider using a other than your real name (talk • contribs) 09:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

You took out a space entirely, so that words ran together, and advising you of that is not “abuse.” Acroterion (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Just To Let You Know

Thank you again for your help with this situation. The user you just blocked, VonJarred (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki), is the latest sock puppet account of Jinnifer (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki), a banned editor who constantly makes sock puppet accounts in order to harass other editors into restoring Jinnifer's original research opinions to Horror film.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:32, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I've seen Jinnifer before, at least by name. I'll adjust accordingly. Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much again.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:34, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

FYI

A user you blocked two days ago for two days for edit warring, The.Barbaryan, just returned to engage in the same behavior. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:37, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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Your Response on the ANI - What is 'Sealining'?

Hello, how are you? I am not an experienced user, to start with, but I would like to know what your response means (without cluttering up the website, to confuse others, which is why I'm posting this here). I know a lot of speech goes around that refers to "trolling" which I interpret to mean "vandalism" but I have never seen any speech that refers to the term "sealining?" Can you either explain that terminology or point out a place that this is explained? Thanks in advance, keep up the good work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Blatant_trolling_at_Talk:Bucha_massacre 69.112.128.218 (talk) 18:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Please read Sealioning. Cullen328 (talk) 18:37, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. That link was very helpful. Now I can see more of what that meant. It means that we are assuming that a user is being cordial under false pretences? The user is creating a false aura of politeness in order to create trust in order to sow seeds of conflict? If so, I have another question. Without being a mindreader, seriously, how is one to know the level of another person's/user's voracity or "sincerity" - wouldn't it seem to a reasonable person, if you are "assuming good faith" that there is no way to really assess this? How do we even know if such a thing exists, and even if it definitely did exist, how would anyone know that it occurred? Additionally, if we are to "assume good faith" wouldn't that prevail against 99% of the suspicions that such a thing is happening? Even so, assuming that it is happening, shouldn't we encourage others whom we disagree with to be polite, sincere, and cordial, whether it's sincere or not? What if a user simply doesn't agree with the other user, cannot see the other user's point, and refuses to be rude? Is that seriously the issue? Sorry to bombard you with all these queries. 69.112.128.218 (talk) 21:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Assuming good faith is not a suicide pact. You are bordering on Sealioning right now. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

I was going to make the same observation, it's pretty much what you've been doing. Acroterion (talk) 22:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Add the questions to the Teahouse, my talk page, here, and I'm trying to figure out why I haven't blocked them yet. I guess they think we are stupid. Never confuse patience with stupidity. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:33, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

We're volunteers writing an encyclopedia. We're not some kind of quasi-judicial debating society. That's the good-faith response. The alternate response is that this is the latest in a series of IPs to waste our time with Russian disinformation, or general FUD-sowing. Acroterion (talk) 22:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:12, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Your recent reversion

I couldn't help but notice Your reverting my edit at 88. I believe you might have acted in ignorance or negligence.

The edit concerned a ban on the use of the number 88 for, quote, "its association with Hitler’s initials". To my knowledge, Adolf Hitler's initials were A H, thus yielding "18", so certainly the article's claim must be mistaken. I altered the line to suggest that the ban was due to an association with the phrase Heil Hitler. Such use is well-documented and described in detail in the very article. I am personally unfamiliar with the use of 88 in reference to Hitler's initials and have to request a source for the claim. For the time being, I have unreverted the edit.

Brittletheories (talk) 14:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Go away. The 88 references HH, which is stated plainly. Acroterion (talk) 17:14, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, and therefore the paragraph was mistaken. Well, good thing it got fixed. I'm sorry you got so agitated. Brittletheories (talk) 21:47, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

If you're going to remove material concerning fascists based on your own opinions and then come here to complain that you've been reverted, in tones of dudgeon, I'm not able to assist you. In point of fact, I agreed that it refers to HH, but your approach was fell considerably short of cordiality - please feel free to avoid using words like "ignorance" or "negligence" about simple misunderstandings, and please correct things like this, using references, rather than taking them out several times. Please reconsider your approach to interacting with other editors. Acroterion (talk) 22:15, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Kurt

How can we state that it was a suicide after all the info and facts we have now about his death? Why not just say he died. Period. You seem like an intelligent person and if you look at what Tom Grant has said and proved and what his own attorney has said it looks like he didn't do this. I work with addicts and I've asked every one since 2000 if what he did was possible. Not 1 has said yes, or maybe. That's alot of addicts who have had a habit decades longer than his saying it's impossible. Jaskim06 (talk) 17:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

• Your addition broke the citation, and didn't help the article. You are wanting to add your opinion to an article, based on someone else's opinion. We follow the sources, which say it was suicide, as did the police dept. We aren't interested in your personal opinions. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Complaint

Hi, thank you for reaching out. I was immediately going to assume that you were a person that doesn't even reads the justifications and reverts any changes that has been done on one of your notification links. If you think I haven't been adequately explaining myself, I'll gladly try to do that here and now. I have attempted to delete one of the many problematic sentences on the "NoFap" page which is "NoFap is part of the "manosphere", online groups credited with disseminating misogynist discourses.[12]". Let me clearly, and without dragging too much I hope, explain the points why I think this sentence should not be there. First reason would be your objection to my changes which is "objection to clearly sourced statement", I think graduating from GeorgiaTech, you %100 know better than me that a piece of knowledge being sourced clearly doesn't at all relate to the validity of that statement. I've read at least the abstraction of the sourced material - because of the obvious barrier to knowledge being lots of money - I can deduce that it's a research material that is done by Xiaoting Han & Chenjun Yin to define and fill the concept of "Manosphere". This piece alone does not puts this sentence up in the page where generally objective definitions take place, they do, for 3-4 sentences but putting this sentence up there with is subjectivity to personal bias doesn't reflect the spirit of Wiki. It just seems like a biased person's opinion piece up there with the definitions.

Second reason is actually an expansion of my reasoning: if it should exist in the page, why it shouldn't be the defining sentences. It is because putting this sentence aside with the definitions assumes that the (1) term Manosphere is universally/academically accepted and used whereas its literature is just being created, (2) the explanation next to Manosphere defines the NoFap. My 2nd point is the most important one, I don't think anyone can nonchalantly claim the NoFap disseminating misogynist discourses. The rule number two on the subreddit is even against that. More evident thing is, if you'd scroll through the top posts and comments you'd see that those kind of misogynistic behaviour is downvoted to hell and are not tolerated. Because most of those people know what actually misogyny is, they've actually witnessed misogyny firsthand. They were the ones watching violent pornographic scenes, heartless men carelessly hurting woman just for the sake of entertainment. How can someone claim this movement to be misogynist, I think there is a confusion what NoFap defines and defends. There will obviously be people that will spread misogyny, racism etc. But they are not inherent to movement as you can clearly see in Reddit and other forums, even in the most wholesome pages such as Puppies, there will be someone spreading hate among us.

I simply request you to edit the page to remove that sentence relating to Manosphere. I encourage you to check my claims on the subreddit to find DEFINING PROPERTIES that is evident to "disseminating misogynist discourses". If you find that piece of knowledge useful, I'd propose you to change the start of the sentence with: "A researcher from Beijing thinks that/claims that...". I don't believe any other way is justifiable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darthmaulethuitpapillons (talk • contribs) 12:56, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

• Wikipedia uses references to appropriate research in academic and journalistic sources with reputations for expertise and fact-checking. Reddit is neither.
• Your opinion does not override the consensus developed over time on the talkpage.
• Discussion takes place on the article talkpage where it can be seen by other editors, not here
• Please be aware that pseudoscience and gender issues are subject to special scrutiny
• Abusing multiple accounts and IPs is grounds for summary blocking. Likewise meatpuppetry or brigadiing from off-wiki canvassing. Acroterion (talk) 17:12, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement

The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.

Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:

1. Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
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Administrators at risk for being desysopped under these criteria will continue to be notified ahead of time. Thank you for your continued work.

22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Revert

Why did you revert my edits the links didn't go anywhere! Return to Monkey Island (talk) 22:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with redlinks, they may encourage an article to be written. Stop removing them. Acroterion (talk) 22:25, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard! It makes the pages look unprofessional. It's like you want people to go on wiki and think "oh wow these link go nowhere I guess no one proof reads this". Return to Monkey Island (talk) 22:27, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

This is a user-generated encyclopedia. We want to flag things that need an article written about them. Feel free to help. Acroterion (talk) 22:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't agree with th logic (but won't remove them if that's the rule) but I shouldn't have said that it was rude. Sorry. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 00:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem, you'll understand better after a little while here. The encyclopedia is a work in progress. We used to have a lot of redlinks. Now they're unusual, precisely because people have seen the need and addressed it with an article that turns the link blue. Acroterion (talk) 01:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Actually, it makes people go "Wow, I can't believe there isn't an article on that. I will start one.", which is the whole point. Redlinking plausible articles is encouraged as a way to expand the encyclopedia by letting people know what we need to work on. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:30, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

A Favor

Would it be at all possible if you could rev-delete the vandalism edits made by the user CuddleKing1993 at Talk:Suchomimus and Acrocanthosaurus? The editor in question started a thread in the former, and made an edit summary in the latter, both being incoherent rants about how the perceived incorrect data in both articles are sexually assaulting him.--Mr Fink (talk) 03:43, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Really, it's just over-the-top nonsense, and I don't think it warrants a revdel. I've warned them on their talkpage. Acroterion (talk) 11:58, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Range block

You put a 1 week range block on 2A02:214C:8719:7D00:0:0:0:0/64 (talk · contribs) for disruptive editing. They're back at it on 2A02:214C:8734:DC00:79A8:191E:2BA0:AB89 (talk · contribs). – ².O.^Boxing 09:24, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

They seem to be bouncing around some very large ranges. I'll see what can be done beyond just /64s, but it may not be easy. 13:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Revoke to talk page access for 217.180.232.83

217.180.232.83, which you have blocked, is personally attacking us. Please revoke access to their talk page for the duration of the block as they don't really understand about the rules. Wesoree (talk) 00:52, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Block extended and talkpage access revoked. Acroterion (talk) 01:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022

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Hi Acroterion, thanks for blocking 63.155.49.159 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) – she might need a talk page block as well. --bonadea contributions talk 06:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

I wanted to thank you for your helpful intervention on Talk:Cessna 310#Cockpit image and your request that the editor withdraw the personal attack against me there. Unfortunately he has not only not withdrawn it, but doubled down on it here and again had it pointed out by another admin there that it was probably another personal attack. That was after you posted your request for him to withdraw the original one. Two more days have passed with no action on the editor's part, so it is clear he is not going to withdraw or or apologize. As described in WP:CIVIL his behavior is obviously unacceptable. I should point out that I request some action to close this, not from any sense of personal hurt (frankly it is clear that his personal attack was just an embarrassed lashing out in response to several editors pointing out that the photograph in question was obviously not a real Cessna 310) but because, as the policy describes, poor behavior like that drives editors away from Wikipedia, is detrimental to the project overall and needs to be deterred. I would like to see this individual matter concluded quickly, so I was wondering if I could prevail upon you, as the intervening admin, to take whatever action you deem appropriate in the circumstances to resolve it? Thank you. - Ahunt (talk) 15:47, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Now that's an instrument panel

I thought Serial Number 54129's comments were over the top, and I would appreciate it if they retracted them and apologized to you. I don't think that JG Howes would be happy about things like that said in his name. I've worked with some of his images, because he and I both used a Canon AE-1 film camera on the old days and have extensive slide archives created with that equipment that we've uploaded, and I see his work a lot in areas where I've been working on Commons. We overlapped geographically, and I would have liked to have met him. I don't think the level of umbrage that SN took honors JGH's memory, especially when we're talking about an objectively poor image. We all have them, it's not a slight on the creator, and it seems to me that it was meant more as a portrait of JGH rather than a documentation of an instrument panel, regardless of how it was used, and given the paucity of images of any kind associated with C310 interiors. And I say that as someone with an FP on Commons of an aircraft instrument panel. That said, it won't do any good for me to appear on CBW's talkpage after they've already admonished SN and called out their behavior, and demand an apology. I've rarely seen that accomplish much on WP, and there are no sanctions that can realistically be applied, except to see that it doesn't happen again, or that if it does, it's called out. Acroterion (talk) 12:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughts on this. I actually laughed out loud when I first saw the image, as its intention is quite humourous. The fact that the sky-and-clouds background was added to make it look like it was in flight, while the photographer holding the camera was obviously standing outside the aircraft, where the right-hand engine would have been if it was a real aircraft, just added to the humourous nature of it. As user portraits go I thought it was a fun image for a user page, obviously not intended for any serious use in an article, though. As I indicated above I trust your judgement that if you feel the editor in question has been "sufficiently debriefed", then that is fine by me. I had never encountered that editor before and hopefully won't again, as they seem to have "some issues", but if things escalate I will drop you a note. Thanks again for your work on this. - Ahunt (talk) 12:39, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah, yes, thanks for adding that Ford Trimotor panel. Now if we had something like that of a C-310 that would be a useful addition to the article. It is a failing of mine that in my three decades as an active pilot and also photographer, that I did not foresee my future at WikiProject Aircraft and take more instrument panel photos than I did! Hindsight bias! - Ahunt (talk) 12:51, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I found what your wrote highly offensive

As a Jewish family (related to the Noether family) we find your comments about the edits outrageous. "othering" what are you even talking about? Its people like you who are taking away our proud history. How dare you lecture us about how we should identify by nationality. What does that even mean? Disgraceful. I need to report you, how do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torontodecide (talk • contribs) 17:41, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

You may complain at WP:ANI.Please read MOS:ETHNICITY first, and bear in mind that 9 out of 10 times, when a nationality is replaced with "Jewish" in an article, it's being done by anti--Semitic trolls as vandalism and, as I mentioned, a way of setting Jews apart as non-citizens or un-persons. See triple parentheses for another way that this is accomplished by those with malign intent. Acroterion (talk) 22:41, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Shame on you

Under no circumstances did I attack another user. The allegation is egregious, I was forced to delete it from my talk page in embarassment at your aggression and I allege you are abusing your position as admin to accuse me of such when I am contributing to the site in good faith. Removal of well cited, rule following, good faith, relevant contributions with no explanation or rationale is indeed "vandalism"--you ought to know the rules, but clearly you do not. Shame on you. ~ Gkoogz (talk) 10:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Bluster is not an appropriate response. Stop treating other editors as opponents to be overcome. Acroterion (talk) 11:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Response to your comment on my page

Hello.

Doug Mastriano is not "far right". Please do not continue to call him as such. Else, we open the flood gates to Wikipedia simply becoming an outlet for mainstream media regurgitation. I can just as easily cite Fox News and call every single Democrat a far left socialist if we can use ridiculous, theatric titles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engineer-005 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Wikiopedia is reliant on mainstream academic and journalistic assessment, in intention and design. Your expectations are misplaced. And please stop labeling anyone and anything you disagree with as "far-left." Unless there's a Pol Pot party, hardly anybody in politics is far-left in the U.S., not even Bernie Sanders. Acroterion (talk) 22:48, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for making your bias known. Nobody in the US is far left, but plenty of people are far right? Haha. You guys crack me up. You're not even hiding your bias, but you genuinely think you have none. Too funny! Engineer-005 (talk) 02:16, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, everybody who doesn't agree with you is biased. That's not very enlightening. We're all biased, including you. Acroterion (talk) 02:51, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

This editor has now stated twice on Talk:Doug Mastriano that Being a Q Anon believer is not "far right" [18], [19]. In my opinion, anyone making that kind of statement has earned a CIR block. Those people never go on to become productive editors. Wikipedia should take a zero-tolerance approach to QAnon. Just my two cents. I am aware of WP:ROPE and will not be pressing that issue further. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:53, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect info

On the page for the peanuts special To Mom And Dad(With Love) it is stated that some critisism is "homophobic". but the two sources used are in fact not homophobic. i edited the page assuming someone majorly misinterpreted the articles but you edited them back.

why — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.115.161 (talk) 08:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I've removed the entire passage, since there doesn't seem to have been much discussion in secondary sources. In the meantime, please acquaint yourself with taxonomy. Your edits at crush fetish were inappropriate, and your lecturing of other editors who repaired the article was misguided. Birds are indeed reptiles in some special taxonomic senses, but an article on a paraphilia is not an appropriate place to make such technical distinctions, or to garble the overarching term vertebrate. Acroterion (talk) 12:16, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I overreacted with that I agree, but what about the Peanuts special page. I am being genuine, as I truly see nothing homophobic about it, and if it was homophobic then I would be siding with you there 24.210.115.161 (talk) 20:19, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on a World War II summit and the American space program

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grammar and english standards for "gang stalking" page are extremely incorrect. Needs and edit to promote neutrality.

Hello! Thanks for engaging with me about my edits. How exciting, someone must really care about that page.

I believe that the term, "gang stalking," is a verb. It is used on this page as a noun, which is incorrect. A verb cannot technically be a set of beliefs.

The language on the page seems a bit skewed towards the controversial, instead of addressing the topic at large. I'd love to be able to contribute to making this page more neutral. That is always my goal.

If your opinion is in line with that of specific medical professionals, I hope that you will allow others to contribute alternative viewpoints, as well as allow people in the wikipedia community who are interested in neutrality itself to make edits that serve that purpose.

Thank you so much for interacting with my edits! And please excuse any appearance of pushing for a "cause," or "belief," on my part. I assure you that people have all kinds of opinions about things like ghosts, technology, outer space, and just about everything that should be allowed to exist online - while we also state that these are the opinions of some - not all - people.

And of course the algorithms keep changing the title to this note I am sending to you. It should say "an edit," not "and edit." OH internet. How imperfect it all is.

Actually, depending on context, it can be a noun, verb, gerund or adjective. In this case is is a noun, a term used for what is generally regarded as a delusion of persecution by organized groups, often treatable by medication. Wikipedia reflects mainstream sourcing, with particular emphasis on clinical research. Please read WP:FRINGE for how Wikipedia covers other aspects in proportion to their credibility, as granted by mainstream journalistic and academic sources. The article has seen much disruption from editors who have pushed the notion of genuine persecution by gangs, with no actual supporting references. If you have sources that can be used to improve the article, please use the article's talkpage to present them and suggested edits. I have protected the article for a little while to ensure that you follow that protocol, which is required for significant alterations to sourced content. Acroterion (talk) 19:40, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Seth Rich - Potential update to information

Acroterion,

I saw that you protected the Seth Rich article and I wanted to provide you with updated information. I am contemplating rewriting at-least sections of the article but wanted to get your opinion first. As part of the FOIA, the FBI has recently released redacted documents that make clear the DNC email leak is at the very-least empirically related to Seth Rich. https://vault.fbi.gov/seth-rich/seth-rich-part-01-of-03/view

With access to this information, I humbly believe that it is only respectful for Mr. Rich and our search to find the truth - to make proper edits to the article. This may include removing fact-finder data that was not available at the time of initial publication, among other things. Additionally, although mostly redacted the FBI seems to have uncovered a "hit" plot for Mr. Rich prior to his death. I do not wish to get involved in the politics of this article (as I mostly work on disaster and emergency management), but I do believe significant revisions and/or removal of content on the Seth Rich article (as it stands today 5/31/22) is necessary. Given its magnitude and the work therein, and depending on what response this comment receives, I would like to work in tandem with you to correct the article as a whole.

TLDR: The FBI documents seem to show that there is more of a connection between the leak and Mr. Rich than the media, fact finders, ad other sources were aware of at the time. Access to this new information should call for major revision of the current article.

Sincerely, Thebeast613123 (talk) 04:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Read WP:NOR and WP:PRIMARY. Your interpretation of what FOIA material “seems to show” is not usable on Wikipedia. Acroterion (talk) 04:56, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Well then I will change what I said to "does show" because as per the FBI documents, it does. The FBI makes it clear that there is a connection between the DNC leak and Mr. Rich. I simply said "seems to show" to be polite. Thebeast613123 (talk) 05:00, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Read WP:NOR and WP:PRIMARY, and leave the sleuthing to the secondary sources that Wikipedia relies upon for reliable sourcing. The encyclopedia reports on what professionals describe as the truth, we are not searching for it ourselves. Acroterion (talk) 05:07, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

I completely understand what you are saying and the guidelines involved. It does appear that FBI released documents - from themselves is as primary as it would seem to get. In fact, a case could potentially be made that in this case, specifically, the fact-finder sources discussed in the article are secondary sources. I think that internal documents, such as these would be a better source than someone else reporting on their release.

Additionally, even in the realm of speculation, wouldn't FOIA internal FBI documents related to this case be proper to bring up. I do not quite understand the hesitation here. The FBI documents admit that Mr. Rich has connections to the DNC leak. I would say that that source is about as good as it gets. Thebeast613123 (talk) 05:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

If the Washington Post or the New York Times or a similar publication take notice, then it would be appropriate for Wikipedia to rely on what they say to establish that the material is suitable for inclusion. If nobody takes notice, then it is not Wikipedia’s purpose to reveal it or to draw conclusions in the absence of reporting in secondary sources. Wikipedia follows the news, it doesn’t create, which is plainly stated in the NOR and primary sourcing policies that I have mentioned. Acroterion (talk) 11:10, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

It is not Wikipedia's role to sift through document dumps and draw conclusions. FOIA documents are by their nature contextless and incomplete. It is up to multiple reliable sources with reputations for solid research to make the effort and to publish context and conclusions which can then be cited, not individual Wikipedia editors.We don't allow court evidence to be cited in most cases for the same reasons. Rich's death has been used to promote the ends of people who couldn't care less about Rich himself, and the absence of reporting on the material you mention indicates that nobody so far thinks it is of any significance. If that changes, then it might be mentioned in the context of what is said about it in reliable sources. Acroterion (talk) 12:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Historical Right article

I’m looking at the page history and it seems like Nick.mon and other accounts made various changes to the article without proving ANY scholarly citations to support their edits. I mean ZERO references whatsoever. They made those changes unchallenged despite not following Wiki protocol.

Meanwhile, I provided numerous reliable sources for my edit, most of them from the last two decades, and it got reverted instantly. It was not even a major change to the article. I was mostly reverting the aforementioned unsourced edits while providing many scholarly citations to back me up. And yes I read Italian and know the material well. The edit only looks lengthy because of all the citations I provided, not because the main article was changed substantially. CuttlefishJack (talk) 04:12, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

We see a lot of edits changing “liberal” to “conservative” and vice versa, “left” to “right”, etc. Those are red flags when unaccompanied by a talkpage discussion. I don’t see that you’ve ever used a talkpage to open a discussion. Please do so now. It is not the references so much as the sudden shift in characterization without any discussion. References are good, but changes are not always self-evidently beneficial, which is why talkpage s are provided. Acroterion (talk) 11:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, but it’s not a “sudden shift in characterization” as much as it is a reversion to what the article said before editors like Nick.mon made their *completely unsourced changes* that went unnoticed and unchallenged at the time (except that I included more citations and more detail than what previously existed in the article). If other administrators had reverted Nick.mon’s edits back then on the basis that he ignored Wiki protocol by not providing any references, we would not be having this discussion. I don’t have infinite free time to debate, so can you see why it’s frustrating when other editors are allowed to make changes without providing any references and have those changes remain, while I go through the trouble of providing many different scholarly sources and get instantly reverted as reward for my efforts? CuttlefishJack (talk) 13:56, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

None of us are omniscient or universal specialty subject matter experts, and that's one reason why you and everybody else should explain what they're doing, otherwise it just looks arbitrary.You may want to discuss with Nick mon directly, or at least ping him about the talkpage discussion. Acroterion (talk) 16:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

User

(Redacted) -- this user appears to be threatening. Nythar (talk) 07:42, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

They've been blocked. Nythar (talk) 07:48, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) (talk page watcher)  User blocked and sent to the stewards. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 07:49, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Nation state phrase

Dear Acroterion. Please, I think you mistake by reverting the corrected phrase (15:49, 11 June 2022‎ Acroterion talk contribs‎ 99,962 bytes +4‎ Reverted 1 edit by 93.176.134.75 (talk): Rv, languages dpn't Try to replace" things or themselves undo Tags: Twinkle Undo).

I'm afraid you did not read the text referred to Spain, so you did not noticed that the phrase I corrected was because was in inverse sense to the article. Now, upon your reversion it says: the non-Spanish languages which over the last three hundred years have tried to replace Spanish with hundreds of laws and regulations. So:

- please notice that it is absolute opposite to the information of the rest of the article.

- please notice that it is the spanish government who mades the laws and regulations, not the speakers of no-spanish languages. So, as expressed before in the article, the spanish government improves the condition of spanish language (castilian, as is written in the Spanish constitution) in front other spanish-no castilian languages.

So, in order the information be accurate and real, I think you would have to revert your previous reversion. Of course is your decission that the information fits or not, but readers would agree. Anway, thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.176.134.75 (talk) 16:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

What you inserted makes no sense in English. From your note above it doesn't appear that your proficiency in English is sufficient to edit the way you want to. My edits have responded to the mangled grammar you've been adding. Please use the article talkpage to make suggestions for edits so someone more proficient can make edits. Acroterion (talk) 16:25, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. Right, my english could be much better, but the article about Spain still is wrong. Of course I don't want to made a bizantine discussion, but please, don't you mind that the sentence says exactly the opposite to the rest of the text? Not need to search far, just one sentence later: "The main workhorse of Spanish nationalism is the non-Spanish languages, which over the last three hundred years have tried to replace Spanish with hundreds of laws and regulations, but also with acts of great violence, such as during the civil war. For example, the statements of Queipo de Llano..." It is absolutely clear for anyone that know who was Queipo de Llano.

From my side I'll not insist anymore, thanks anyway for your patience and time. 93.176.134.75 (talk) 16:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for responding, I'll take a closer look, but I'm not very enlightened by the quoted content either, since it is trying to argue that languages are able to take actions. No need to apologize for your English - I understand French pretty well, for example, but don't edit the French Wikipedia because I would do the same things and not realize my errors. Acroterion (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Request for assistance

Hi. I opened a talk page thread titled "Lead paragraphs", about the number of paragraphs of the Donald Trump page, which is under active arbitration remedies. I take great pride in researching for long periods of time the Manual of Style, guidelines and policies to try to improve articles, but to my dismay and demoralization, the discussion devolved in a series of attacks against me and my edits and other off-topic posts. I even requested an editor if they had accusations against me to follow relevant policy and take it to my talk page, but they continued with the off-topic situation. Another editor even said they was sick of the bickering and they was just mocked. Could you check the situation and if possible or if appropriate put a stop to the situation but leaving open the discussion about the paragraphs? Thanks in advance.--Thinker78 (talk) 17:51, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

European Colonization of the Americas

Why do I get in trouble when Bishonen inappropriately blocked me? Is it because I am not an amdinsitrator and thus have less power? This is the same thing that keeps happening. I get accused, I defedn myself, and I get in trouble. Could you rescind the warning? I think that other people will use this warning to get me blocked or banned months from now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbinetti (talk • contribs)

I've replied on your talkpage. Please stop treating other editors as opponents. Acroterion (talk) 23:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Leave me alone

Leave me alone please. I don’t give you permission to reverse my edits and you’re incorrect for inferring I commited vandalism. 2404:E80:90EF:0:689C:5855:EDA6:EC49 (talk) 12:13, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

You are not able to make demands that your edits stand. Stop trying to harass other editors. Acroterion (talk) 12:15, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

RevDel at Leba Chand Tudu

At Leba Chand Tudu can you delete all revisions prior to the page creation edit by Sudip Karmakar23? The full history (40 revisions) including the ones deleted per WP:Articles for deletion/Leba Chand Tudu were inadvertently restored by Justlettersandnumbers. The article is facing speedy delete per G4, and the version by Sudip Karmakar23 is different from what was deleted. Jay (talk) 02:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Done. I'm not sold on the G4, since it's substantially different from the first version. Acroterion (talk) 02:31, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I agree, the speedy tagging may have been because the earlier history showed the original creator as current creator. I have removed the G4 tag now. Jay (talk) 02:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Jay, that wasn't actually inadvertent – I'd mistakenly deleted the page as G5, for which it was not eligible, and chose to restore the history in its entirety. I'm open to correction here, but when a page is tagged as G4, isn't restoring the earlier revisions a reasonable way of allowing comparison between the deleted and the re-created versions? If I'm wrong about that I'm happy to re-delete those earlier revisions. In this case, the distinction between the original creator and the more recent one is pretty marginal, as the latter is a sock of the former. Acroterion, was revdeletion really the right choice here? Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:16, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I would say it is wrong to restore deleted revisions to facilitate G4 evaluation to non-admins. Anyone may tag a G4, and anyone may decline it, but only an admin can accept it. Tagging and declining can be based on the AfD's rationale too, not necessarily on article content. For comparing content, non-admins use Wikipedia mirrors or Deletionpedia. See some archived discussions here: Only Admins Declining G4?, Questions about G4, G13, Verifying G4. Regarding, the sock angle, I was not aware, as the new creator was tagged as a sockpuppet 10 minutes after my above post. The page can now be speedied under the sock criteria then. Jay (talk) 09:19, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid not, Jay – the page has substantial edits by another user, so is not eligible; the G5 tag was removed for that reason by Ponyo. Any user can remove some or all of the sockpuppet content, of course. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:04, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

It was my feeling that the first version’s revisions were heavily influenced by a sock master and best deleted, and that G4 was not warranted. I meant to remove the G4 but was distracted by wife and dogs. I see no reason to keep the early revisions, but have no very strong conviction on the matter. Acroterion (talk) 11:14, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

OK, I've re-deleted those revisions, per suggestions here. The article creator now shows as the sock rather than the master. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Question

Helllo, just wanted to thank you once again for blocking the Indonesia IP for harassment, just wanted to ask a question about it.

Did he leak any of my personal info? Or was it just something along the lines of "I will find you and kill you" or something. Thanks! Dinoz1 (chat?) 12:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

The latter. No personal information. Acroterion (talk) 16:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

The Impartial Truth

Pretty clearly NOTHERE, wouldn't you say? Doug Weller talk 15:13, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Presuming that's him, I guess it could be someone else. Doug Weller talk 15:14, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

I give it 80% odds.My warning has it covered either way, and we'll see if they ever come back. The Truth in username rule continues to be remarkably accurate. 16:54, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration Notice

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Issues with the Operation of ANI and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, Carter00000 (talk) 17:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

You realize that this is a remarkably bad idea? Acroterion (talk) 17:14, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

I can answer for the user: no. Welcome to the Wikipedia Circus.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Maybe there's something wrong with my computer, but this isn't returning any results. hmm. Antandrus (talk) 17:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Try: Special:Contributions/Carter00000. - Ahunt (talk) 17:49, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Ban Me

At this point I don’t care. Permanently Ban from the site DO IT!

Arbitration request declined

The recent request for Arbitration to which you were listed as a party has been declined, as the Committee felt it was premature. For the Arbitration Committee, firefly ( t · c ) 15:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Editor troubles

My apologies to bother you but a while back you placed a block on User:E8eY4BdnUnhxPYHr – recently some issues have risen again with this editor, regarding edits I've made. The individual posted a bogus claim on the talk page stating I placed inaccurate content. As you can see my edits contradict the claim (I’ve pinged him, with no response) Also the editor maybe running 2 accounts as user:Tbx3571 & user: E8eY4BdnUnhxPYHr seem to have a similar interest(s) and writing style(s) - Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated -cheers FOX 52 ^talk! 19:38, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Partially blocked editor asking others to edit for them

Hi - see[20]. Doug Weller talk 08:27, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

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[21] All I see is adding unsourced and odd deletions and changes. A mess, but maybe nothing can be done. Doug Weller talk 18:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Also changing sourced text. Doug Weller talk 18:29, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:28, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

topic: Alexander F. Harmer

Your statement "There he married Felicidad Abadie, settling in the Abadie family residence in Felicidad's native Santa Barbara, which became an artists' colony" needs revision. It's a run on with three distinct ideas. Did Alex move with the family or just occupy the house? Did you fail to previously state where Alexander was born and thought you should just slap it in there? I hope you're able to correct this and choose to do so. In the meantime, I'll be keeping an eye on you. 67.1.117.212 (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

I responded to your earlier, much snarkier complaint on your talkpage. I agree, it's in rough shape, as I'm working over and creating articles related to Harry Gesner, whose own article was deplorable and is still rough. Wikipedia's representation of the visual arts is consistently weak, and we have to stick to sources.

If you do any more Jew-tagging, though, you'll be blocked. Acroterion (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Wp:Architecure help

Hello, I’m the IP you responded to on mjRoots’ talk page. I’m attempting to add an architecture section to the page Lee Hall Depot, because its design is significant (many train station pages have this sort of section). It’s design was a standardized and prefabricated one used by the C&O Railroad on all Freight Stations and Cargo Houses for a period of time. I’ve made a start, but it’s small. I’m looking to expand it quite a bit, and while I can do research fairly easily, I’m not sure, how I would, write it out, and thought that someone with more experience would be helpful at achieving this. Thank you for your time and help, ˜˜˜˜ 108.48.97.70 (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

I'll track down the National Register nomination form, which should have a citeable and condensable descriptive summary. Acroterion (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi; so something I should mention is that I edit from a phone, and because of that I can respond to edit messages after I send them. Thanks for trying to find that nomination, talk to you soon! ˜˜˜˜ 108.48.97.70 (talk) 17:57, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

I'll give it a go when I have a few moments - Real Life has thrown a few family emergencies my way.Acroterion (talk) 22:16, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

I've made a start and done some of the editing and referencing that's hard to do on a phone. The NRHP nomination is the go-to document for history and description up to 2009. Obviously anything after that would have to be sourced elsewhere. Acroterion (talk) 02:18, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi! How do I determine what is important for an architecture section

I’m finding that a lot of the stuff in the “Architectural history” section of the PDF you sent me is rather minor, but also seems important, like types of trim, an on-site well, and lighting fixtures. How do I determine what goes in and what doesn’t? And what goes into other sections? 108.48.97.70 (talk) 00:25, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

In my view a lot of the descriptions are verbal detail better conveyed by pictures, but it's something of a convention in NRHP docs to turn the descriptions into hyper technical jargon. Unless it's crucial or a defining feature, I tend to avoid excessive descriptions of window types, detailing, etc. That's just me, though I was planning to come back and expand it a little more. That particular example isn't a very good account of the architectural design. I don't want to stray too far into my own interpretation, but I was going to sit with pictures and try to make it a little more intelligible to general readership. Acroterion (talk) 00:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

As far as other sections go, there is a good bit of background and history in the nom. It is confusingly arranged, again by convention, with continuances farther back. I would say it goes into more detail than is warranted for a summary encyclopedia article, but that's why we link the NHRP nom, so somebody who wants to can go ahead and read it to get more detail. Acroterion (talk) 01:01, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to bother, but where do these “detail” photos go?

I found a photo detailing several parts of the buildings design (overhangs, support brackets, windows, etc. Now, you said I should use images instead of describing small features with text. But where would such an image go in the architecture section? Link to photo: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lee_Hall_Station_(15883700568).jpg 108.48.97.70 (talk) 16:17, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I guess my point is that the NRHP nominations contain a level of detail that isn't really needed for an encyclopedia article, and they the nominations rely on text to convey something better done via drawings and photos. I didn't mean that the encyclopedia article would use detail pictures (though it could if they're particularly significant). Acroterion (talk) 01:28, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Tristan Thompson

Hi Acroterion, can you block and rev/delete the WP:BLP violations in several recent edits and summaries? ANI is protected, so I can't report there. Thanks, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:F5BD (talk) 03:32, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

• Spencer, thank you. Though not as egregious, several previous edits in the last week may also merit rev/deletion. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:F5BD (talk) 03:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

What to do if user has their IP blocked

I’m not sure. You blocked a related IP here[22] and CUS 27 is asking me about it.[23] I blocked a couple of IPs also. I am not sure about using CU here or if I can do something else. Doug Weller talk 17:39, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

I blocked Gnhrfiufrhe897r4y, an obvious throwaway account, I don't see an IP that I blocked there. Acroterion (talk) 01:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Advice needed

See[24] which could be related to a couple of IPs I blocked or your block here.[25] I’m not sure I can use CU or if there’s another option. Thanks Doug Weller talk 17:44, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Sixteenth anniversary on Wikipedia!

Hey, Acroterion. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Chris Troutman (talk) 19:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Random note

I've noticed that you tend to block all the random trolls that appear on my talk page. Especially now that I'm around less, I really appreciate it :) TonyBallioni (talk) 04:59, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. You must attract overnight trolls or something - I usually look around between 0700 and 0800 ET for trolls and spambots and block accordingly. Acroterion (talk) 11:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Oath Keepers Article

I don’t see how one source can judge a page such as this as “far-right.” There are many people and organizations who should be labeled as “far-left,” but are not labeled as such. I’m not going to name names, but I think if we should be open-minded and not bias one way or the other, I think it would be best to those who read Wikipedia on a daily or recent basis to know the facts and not experience political bias while reading articles. If we disagree, we disagree. I have my beliefs, you may have yours. I just want to make this page better and more understandable. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 02:35, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

There are multiple sources calling OK far-right, and we don't need to load up the lede with them. That they're there at all in the lede is because people stop reading after the first paragraph and don't read the additional sourced content in the article supporting the summary paragraph (which is normally uncited). The lede covers the cited content in the body of the article. This is a global encyclopedia, and what American conservatives label "far-left" is pretty centrist compared to most of the rest of the world. . And it's "biased," not "bias." Acroterion (talk) 02:45, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Although I disagree with you, I respect your opinion. Thanks. Conservative Alabamian (talk) 02:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

May you please explain to me how the "far-left" labeling is considered centrist to the rest of the world? Thanks. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

The liberal wing of the Democratic party is pretty centrist compared to leftist parties in most of the rest of the world. A number of commentators compared the Obama administration's policies with the policies of the Eisenhower administration. Until we have administrations nationalizing companies and instituting collectivist policies, we're not even to leftist, much less far-leftism, which would be on the extremes of Marxist thought. Sanders is an extremely mild socialist, and that's about as spicy as it gets in U.S. politics. He'd be a middle-of-the-road Labour candidate in the UK. Acroterion (talk) 03:18, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Being from the United States, I have always believed that Sanders was a communist. I didn't really care about what the rest of the world thinks. Do you believe that there is a far-left ideology? -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Sanders is a declared democratic socialist, which is considerably short of Communist. "Being from the United States," (so am I) where politics tends toward the conservative, gives a skewed view of actual leftist radicalism, which is a lot more aggressive than anything seen in the United States. In the 1980s the French Socialist Mitterand administration was in power. It was halfway between the Gaullist Party and the actual French Communist Party, which was closely aligned with the Soviet Union. Mitterrand was considerably to the left of Sanders, and Mitterrand was considerably to the right of the Communists. This is a global encyclopedia, so it presents a worldwide view of political science, rather than the very narrow dose one gets in the U.S. Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

I understand this is a global encyclopedia. I have a Bachelor's degree in history and want to grow the historical aspect of this encyclopedia. Do you think I am on the right track? -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Not if you think Sanders is a Communist. But I recognize that in many parts of the United States, anybody more liberal than the local Chamber of Commerce is considered some kind of Communist. Acroterion (talk)

I'm not saying all liberals are communists. I was raised in the Deep South, where we are all about morals and conservatism. I have never denounced anyone's right to believe what they want to believe or vote for who they want to vote for. I'm just saying that I have never experienced anything but the United States, so I guess I am biased. I apologize for what I did on the Oath Keepers page. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:50, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

No need for apology, we're all here to learn something. Acroterion (talk) 12:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Okay, great. Thank you. How can I join the WikiProject Military History? Thanks in advance. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 14:16, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

the blitz

the source is the BBC, mistakes happen, they have translated this wrong. Most other dictionaries will translate it as flash. Please believe a German and additionally maybe use this source instead: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Blitz#German https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/blitzkrieg It also says that Blitz can mean flash. To any German this is clear as day that it cannot refer to lightning but to the swiftness of the flash. 2003:F9:8701:DFA0:9982:4D69:CACE:FA79 (talk) 23:58, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

That may be so, but you'll need sources, preferably sources that discuss that specific distinction. Acroterion (talk) 23:59, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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User Zarvonov/Lee Harvey Oswald vandalism

Seems as though the user Zarvonov has resorted to personal attacks on their talk page following the "allegedly" incident on Lee Harvey Oswald. Liliana ^(UwU) 01:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, they're having a meltdown. I'm going over to ANI now. Acroterion (talk) 01:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Earlier today, an editor (now blocked) threatened my life, 'after' I reverted him at the Montreal Canadiens page. GoodDay (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Probably a trolling Maple Leafs fan. I got off easy, I think, just a lot of cussing. Acroterion (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

My guess is, he'll be getting himself banned within a week. GoodDay (talk) 02:15, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Well, he didn't last a full day. GoodDay (talk) 00:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

If he was on such a hair trigger that Skyring set him off, we're better off without him. Six years of steady cycling updates, and then ... snap. Acroterion (talk) 01:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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MakoFish113

Hi Acroterion - Did you mean to only block this user for 31 hours? I would imagine that you'd block this user indefinitely per their self-admission on ANI... Let me know; I just wanted to message you in case this may have been accidental. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I switched reasons and Twinkle reset on me. I wish it wouldn't behave that way. Now indef. Acroterion (talk) 19:52, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Good Faith

With regards to a recently closed AN thread, where the user in question said I usually update economic data … i want to reign as ECP… where I can do that I thought I’m going to assume you mean “regain” rather than “reign” for the moment. was commendably good faith given the rest of their behaviour! Nosebagbear (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

I thought about that for a little while, because my first reading was less favorable, but it appeared to me that this was not a person whose first language is English,so I ought to give the benefit of the doubt, at least as far as the "reign.". On reviewing some of my own typos, I sometimes need the same grace. There was no way anybody was going to reinstate ECP for them, so the AGF cost little. Acroterion (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Edit warring on the Tunisia football article

Hello, I edited the article on the Tunisian football team. The entire article was written like a non-native English speaker, and I fixed most of the grammar issues and removed junk that's not needed in the article. For example, the article's history section listed the score on every single game while every other national football team's article doesn't have that junk. There is this user with an Arabic username and they keep reverting my edits to theirs, which would require copyediting and many maintenance tags, such as too lengthy, grammar, and more. Could you please take care of this user? They've also written multiple articles that have been deleted. The World Cup is coming up (Tunisia made it) and I want readers to see an article that's been written properly, not by a non-native English speaker. Nearly but not perfect (talk) 18:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

They've reverted three times and haven't reverted since you warned them.I'll keep an eye on the article.Acroterion (talk) 18:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

The Arabic user has came back; while they didn't really revert what I did, they reinstated a lot of the excessive content. The grammar improved but it still is not completely written in an encyclopedic style. I have reverted to my version for now. What should happen next? Nearly but not perfect (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

DB Cooper

Hi: Is anyone monitoring the DB Cooper page? There have been many changes in the past few weeks and it does not look like any admins are aware. KatDales (talk) 13:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Is something going on that requires administrator action? Acroterion (talk) 16:45, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Reverted edit

Hi this is Akamaikai, whose edit you reverted on Boysen Dam, Wyoming.

The reason I added a climate section is because I like to add climate data to places where it exists so that people can see it and understand the climate of a particular area. NOAA has climate data on it and I thought it would be OK to add, if have any suggestions of a nearby town where I could put the climate data it would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

-Akamaikai Akamaikai (talk) 23:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

I understand, and I think it's fine to add the data to populated places, or places like Mount Washington that are noted for weather. I've been to to Boysen Dam, and I understand why they have a weather station there - the weather in Thermopolis, the nearest populated place, is often quite different from the weather on the other side of the Owl Creek Mountains. However, putitng a big gaudy climate box into an article that is about a dam, rather than a place, is in my opinion undue weight, and distracts from the article's focus. Acroterion (talk) 23:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

So where should I put the data? Akamaikai (talk) 23:58, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't an indiscriminate collection of information, so absent a settlement with the usual settlement data, or some compelling reason to single out the dam as a unique location weather-wise, I don't see any reason for inclusion. Just because information exists, we're not compelled to apply it everywhere we can. If there is sourceable information that describes Boysen Dam as a notable weather location on its own (like, for example, Mount Washington), the best way is to write about that, and then add the data, preferably in collapsible format. The climate boxes are a bit huge. Acroterion (talk) 00:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

IP Block

Hey there, just wanted to thank you for removing that inflammatory comment from my talk page.

Also wanted to draw your attention to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Nameless_User, if you are not already aware. That IP removed the PROD tags on all the articles mentioned in that post. Possible sock I imagine. Skipple ☎ 15:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

I was responding to that report and checking their edits.I was unsurprised to find that they had resorted to personal attacks. Acroterion (talk) 15:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Removal of IP address on History Page

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My name is Tim, and I just wanted to let you know that recently, I accidentally made an edit on a page describing the Motion Picture Rating System page. The edit that I made is changing the location of the columns of Categories IIA and IIB in the row describing the age rating system for Hong Kong. I would like to have my I.P. address, which is located at the top of the website, to be deleted. Please send me back a message when you have time.

https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%9B%BB%E5%BD%B1%E5%88%86%E7%B4%9A%E5%88%B6%E5%BA%A6&action=history JigSAW43+ (talk) 05:57, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

I have no administrative permissions on zh, and can't even read Chinese characters. Please contact a zh administrator. Acroterion (talk) 12:13, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Strange psychiatry anon is back

91.129.100.0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

They’re now posting (pretty transparently) under a different sock IP address with the same grammatical and argument structure over at Talk:Psychiatry, attempting to create a “consensus” in favor of their WP:POLEMIC edits. Bonus: they also say you’re guilty of selective enforcement and should be banned. JK I think @C.Fred is taking care of it — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 11:47, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

It's an obvious sock situation/block evasion by IP hopping. My next step will be to semi-protect Talk:Psychiatry if this continues…and if no other admin does it before I do. —C.Fred (talk) 11:53, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for dealing with them. I also get the impression that they think that everybody who confronts them is the same person. It's a subject that attracts people with odd ideas. Acroterion (talk) 12:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Laska666's essays

If you care to go through more of Laska666's edits, you'll find tons of unreferenced POV ramblings and essays in between the poorly paraphrased quotes from actual references.

For example, the last two sentences of this edit at Nam tiến are Laska666's own words. Other parts of that same edit are cited to pages of a book that don't support the content, e.g. page 126 of Sutherland's book does not say anything resembling

[Non-Kinh "ethnic minority" artifacts are] not being blocky parts of the Vietnamese 'mainstream historiography,' even though they had made enormous contributions or direct historical impacts in Vietnam and the Southeast Asia region as a whole.

They add a lot of valuable content, but also often sneak in their own perspective. — MarkH₂₁^talk 18:31, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Just made a similar block

{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevin003009] Doug Weller talk 14:28, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:Submerged bridges has been nominated for merging

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Blocked IP

Hey,

I saw you blocked User talk:165.0.127.10 for a week.

Since they edited "Adolf Hitler is a legend" in Hitler's talk page, I believe they should receive an indefinite block under WP:NONAZIS. Also, they've been blocked before Stephanie921 (talk) 20:44, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh boy. We don't block IPs indefinitely, but I'll look at a longer block. Acroterion (talk) 21:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

I remember this one. In general, for repeat blocks we block for about as long as the disruption has been taking place. This is about what I would set. It's probably a poorly-socialized adolescent, and they'll probably find other things to be horrible about. If not, they'll be blocked for longer. Acroterion (talk) 21:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. And could I ask what policy says IPs aren't blocked indefinitely? I'm not saying ur wrong of course but I've seen IPs indefinitely blocked loads of times, and am curious Stephanie921 (talk) 21:08, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

They're not supposed to be blocked indefinitely except in rare cases, and I haven't seen one indeffed in a long time. Generally IPs are blocked for three years at most, since the vast majority of IPs are dynamic and will be reassigned in a shorter or longer period, and users can change. This isn't a Telstra IP, but for example, Telstra IPs are notorious for being highly dynamic. I am curious about the "loads of times" you've seen IPs indeffed - it's not supposed to happen except in unusual instances of long-term abuse from a specific stable IP. Acroterion (talk) 21:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

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ANI revert explanation

Hi, Acroterion. You reverted my edit on ANI. Let me explain why my edit was correct.

• I made a comment on Nightscream discussion yesterday and then user Protonk replied to my edit about another topic.
• Protonk's reply was reverted by ToBeFree.
• Then Johnuniq reinstated all messages thinking they were okay.
• Then an IP user collapsed Protonk's comments with a provocative message (I warned them at their talk page).
• Arada Ar 196 collapsed all comments including my initial comment which was not removed by ToBeFree with a somewhat contemptous message.

That's why I wanted to change the template headers with a more neutral wording and de-collapse my initial comment. Now clarifying what actually happened, could you please de-revert my edits? Thank you.--Madame Necker (talk) 21:05, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

You shouldn't be editing any templates or collapse headers in that discussion. Acroterion (talk) 21:11, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay I won't from now on. Could you please de-revert my edit? Madame Necker (talk) 21:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

I've changed the collapse header a little. Please don't hijack threads like that. Acroterion (talk) 21:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding. Madame Necker (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

IP142.183.21.97/IP142.183.31.129 and Joan II of Navarre

The IP142.183.21.97 that you blocked for one week from Joan II of Navarre has returned under a different IP(142.183.31.129). I will let you decide what should be done, if anything. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, blocked, sitewide this time, and semi-protected. Acroterion (talk) 02:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Why do you remove my content

Is is very rude that you come and delete what I have added. I would very much appreciate if you would not do that sir. 2600:1009:B168:436F:341E:654B:9A2D:2766 (talk) 11:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

And what was it that you added? It's flattering for you to think I'm psychic and can understand what you did on a different IP address or account, but I'm afraid I can't tell what you're complaining about. Acroterion (talk) 12:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

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Change Name of User

Hi. I created this account so many years ago. Now I want to change the name of my profile from "Cheposo" to Risantana . how can I make a change of name of my account or profile? help please. I hope you can help me with this.

--Cheposo (talk) 13:23, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Changing username is the place to start. Acroterion (talk) 13:49, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

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Discussion at WP:HD § Very Large Picture

 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:HD § Very Large Picture. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

This might be a honest question or it could be a WP:DUCK. Anyway, just letting you know as a courtesy because you removed the image as a copyvio. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:15, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of that editor, but it's clearly an image that's been scraped from a copyrighted website and represented as own work. Acroterion (talk) 03:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

File remame

Hi @Acroterion: I have a file that needs renamed. Could you possibly do it for me please. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 11:11, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

What is it? Is it on Commons? Acroterion (talk) 11:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

File:Winterlink Group.png I've put a rename template on it. scope_creep^Talk 11:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I’ll take a look at it once I get my day started, feed dogs, etc. Acroterion (talk) 11:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Done. A possibly dumb question, but it's not something that comes up often - are file moves of that kind unavailable to non-admins? On Commons filemover is a specific right that must be granted, but image files on WP are pretty rare, so I haven't encountered the restriction. Acroterion (talk) 12:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Acroterion. I posted that redirect for deletion, as I went around and updated all the article. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 18:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

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Theanonymity.de

On the basis of WP:AGF and WP:ROPE, do you have any objections if I lift your block of Theanonymity.de with a limited-duration WP:TOPICBAN? See User talk:Theanonymity.de. -- Yamla (talk) 13:18, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Personally, I have little faith in a holocaust denier's ability to edit Wikipedia in any respect, but perhaps between strict guardrails they could be given rope. Acroterion (talk) 23:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, me too. Still, they claim to have got over that. I'll unblock (with a topic ban) and monitor. --Yamla (talk) 11:58, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Hot potato

Good luck; they're all yours now!-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I've been watching them, and am chiefly concerned that they not aggravate Doug with that crap. I have no plans to do more than divert their nagging until it reaches a point where I turn off talkpage access, which I think is inevitable. Acroterion (talk) 00:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

TP access is gone as predicted. UTRS will probably get it until the UTRS regulars run out of patience. Acroterion (talk) 04:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Over to you Deepfriedokra!-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Clearly not compatible, so we employ a "three strikes law" over there. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:09, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Acroterion

Hey Acroterion

Just a quick flag. You helped me a long time ago when my page was vandalized

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murtz_Jaffer

A user named Clourei made some edits to my page which were not accurate so I reverted the page back. Is there a way to flag that they made in accurate edits?

Please notify me if you respond. 142.126.211.244 (talk) 09:02, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll leve them a note asking them to explain why they believe the material (referenced to a 2021 source) is outdated. Acroterion (talk) 12:09, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:42, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, I meant to wikilink The Mote and the Beam on User_talk:Paullong22 but I accidentally removed a bunch of stuff. I'm not sure how that happened. Sorry about that. Andre🚐 01:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

No problem. I am probably wasting my time, but I figured I'd try to shift the editor's thinking a little bit from "I disagree, so it's wrong and I'm removing it dammit" Acroterion (talk) 01:26, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I see what happened, I somehow had the old revision [26] loaded and then I edited that thinking it was the current version. My mistake - sorry for any confusion or inconvenience. By all means, I certainly appreciate your reasonableness even if he doesn't. Andre🚐 01:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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2600:6c5d:63f:1e39::/64 still trolling

• 2600:6c5d:63f:1e39::/64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · block user · block log)

But they're just asking questions, of course. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 01:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Of course they are. Blocked for longer this time. Acroterion (talk) 01:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Consensus

Then let's discuss this to see if a new consensus can be reached on the talk page of albertan independence (to stay that way or to join another country soon after). Wikipedia according to its values of neutrality shouldn't perpetuate pejorative words that take a negative (or positive) position on any subject, even if the sources do very much so. Is this not right? 96.22.228.193 (talk) 23:16, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

You changed, I disputed it, and we both posted on the talkpage, see WP:BRD. I note that Wikipedia isn't concerned with whether individual editors think something is "pejorative," we say what the sources say. You appear to be injecting your own views intro these topics, and I don't really see how one word is more "pejorative" than the other. The appropriate place for discussion is on the talkpage, not here. Acroterion (talk) 23:38, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

I wrote that here because your talk page said you were busy and to leave a message to make sure you're seeing it, geez. These evil scary separatists that will take this and that if you people don't stay loyal to their benevolant union of equals, unlike those courageous noble freedom fighters from the empire. Definitely not pejorative if it's used for fearmongering, right. 96.22.228.193 (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Revert on Anbumani Ramadoss

Hi, I am seeking clarification as to why my edit, which got reverted by you, on Anbumani Ramadoss, violated WP:BLPCRIME . I just read the article and it has written that we should not include accusations, which have not reached judicial conclusions or resulted in conviction, in the page of non-public figures. Mr. Anbumani is a public figure.I don't know why the rule is applicable to him. Also, I have mentioned only the fact that he was accused and no way implied he was convicted. Please let me know what is the issue. 24thHusbandofDraupathi (talk) 10:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

I have included keyword "alleged" in the title of the section and restored the text. I think that should solve the issue?

Mere arrest without prosecution or conviction is inappropriate emphasis on an accusation that was never pursued. I will remove it, don't put bit back in. Acroterion (talk) 12:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Don't these DS need renewing?

[[User talk:Neuroelectronic#Warning]] Doug Weller talk 15:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Technically they do, since it's company policy, however pointless it appears to be when it's right there in the next section up. Acroterion (talk) 16:38, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

I thought you couldn’t sanction unless they had a recent alert, involved at AE, etc Doug Weller talk 16:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Like I said, it's company policy, so we should probably template them again. I just think it ought to be enough to point up the page,but I can see some DS stickler arguing that it's invalid. Acroterion (talk) 16:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Done. Note that Twinkle said they hadn’t been notified. There are not just sticklers but also editors who hate the system. Doug Weller talk 18:31, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Eight years!

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Reversion

I noticed this reversion and wondered what your reasoning was. I often add an autobiography welcome even if there is a generic welcome so that there is specific advice not to do so, and so that they have been warned if it comes to a block for persistent self-promotion. It's never been a problem before. I'm obviously missing something, but I'm not sure what, please enlighten me Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:48, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

No,it was me and fat fingers on a touchscreen, not anything to do with you. Acroterion (talk) 16:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

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On Marxism-Leninism

Hello.

For a while now you have been editing the page for Marxism-Leninism, adding the term "Authoritarian" repeatedly over and over, and it would be great if you could give your reasoning.

We have read the citations used within the page and within the line.

Communism by Thomas Lansford and Soviet Marxism-Leninism: The Decline of an Ideology by Alfred B. Evans neither corroborate the claim;

We also were unable to find any part of the page's text itself in which comfirms said claim, and, with that, we'd be interested on the provision of a reliable body of work as by wikipedia's standards capable of corroborating said claim.

It would be great if you could come to the talk page for Marxism-Leninism to clarify what led you to the above conclusion.

Thank you for your time. ~ IJamm6I (talk) 18:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

No, what I was doing was reverting unexplained drive-by removals with no discussion and the edit summary "typo," which is both inadequate and inaccurate. I have no views on the content, and am content with however the talkpage discussion turns out. Acroterion (talk) 22:04, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response.

Yes, it is completely understandable why you took your course of action and i agree it was the right decision in a vaccuum.

The issue here is that the original change within the page (in this case the classification of authoritarian) was done so without previous concensus or citation by a single individual. IJamm6I (talk) 03:17, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

You are not entitled to revert until you get your way. Get consensus on the talkpage first. I am not unsympathetic to your argument, but your edits have been disputed and you are obligated to resolve the objections first. Acroterion (talk) 03:21, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Understood. IJamm6I (talk) 03:35, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Billy Fiddle

Would you believe it? User:Billy Fiddle has been indeffed as a confirmed sock account though it doesn't say of whom and I can't find anyone on the Crimea history that matches his behaviour. At least i know what to lok out for, but I've got to be honest, the talkpage access was revoked from him and that I feel is a touch on the harsh side. The only one I have dealt with is User:LJstats/User:Prim96 and he (or they) didn't get talkpage access revoked. Still, I won't miss any of them! :) --Coldtrack (talk) 19:47, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Based on what I see, this is a long-term abuse case across multiple accounts and IPs. Since we're supposed to be circumspect about connecting IPSs and accounts (I'm not a checkuser, but still), I won't go into details, but it's pretty clear that this is an LTA. Acroterion (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I was late by a quarter of an hour to spot that you already added the information to the AN/I thread. I get your point about this being an LTA. His aliases (and by his, I mean that in the generic sense) are likely to be on other Ukraine-related articles and these I look out for routinely purely out of personal interest. If I see anything suspicious, I'll report it but I'll have to treat Billy Fiddle as the sockmaster. Thanks for your help today. --Coldtrack (talk) 19:56, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't draw a great deal of inference from my blocking log. Some things connect, some definitely don't, and some things are complicated. The old statement that checkusers know something you don't stands true. However, I think this one's the LTA known as Evlekis. You could do worse than take a gander at Justice 4 all people. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 20:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Very interesting. I can (sort of) see the connection between Justice for All People and Billy Fiddle, namely the former's first two or three edits on the topic of antisemitism in Ukraine, and in particular this propensity for Russia-bashing gone mad, and the accounts have made a similar number of edits since about the same time since beginning of November, but the former has gone off into British army-related subjects which look constructive, but I'm not qualified to remark there. As for Evlekis, I exchanged comments probably more than a year ago with User:Thomas.W and I told him and I'm saying this now that I am certain that these - while being the same as one another - are not this editor who was active from the early days of the project until 2013. Although he's not about for someone to ask him his opinion of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, I see no connection between who he was/is and this other jerk (or two if they are different), I looked at some (indeterminate number) of accounts "confirmed" to be Evlekis as well as those "suspected" to be him and even as a non-CU, I tell you there are anomalies, lots of glaring anomalies. I'll happily share them --Coldtrack (talk) 20:12, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I had an interesting discussion with - apparently - the real Evlekis recently (here), where I kind of agreed (although there was a lack of hard evidence) that this isn't Evlekis. Which is why I usually say something like 'the LTA known as..'. It's easy for CUs to get mixed up at some point in the chain of confirmation. But we are where we are. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 20:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

We've got a lot of pretty smart and functional LTAs whose behavior may at times converge, or who may be able to mimic each other. BKFIP, for instance, has a style that is common to a certain kind of LTA like this, who can mostly edit usefully while raining abuse on whomever crosses their path. Others, like HarveyCarter, eventually can't help giving themselves away. Acroterion (talk) 20:27, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I can't find much of HarveyCarter but I'm gonna have a good look at those (if I can find his sockpuppets). I'll check the other one too to see his MO. Thanks Acroterion. As for the thread included by Zzuzz! WOW! What light that has thrown!!!!! I'll migrate over to your talk page and tell you what I have found odd with this case. Now I need a stiff drink to get over the shock! LOL --Coldtrack (talk) 20:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

• Just a short note: Evlekis's claim about not having socked since 2018 is not true, it is him who is still very active here, and I know that because I have deliberately prodded him a couple of times with comments that only the real Evlekis would react to, and he has reacted exactly as anticipated (i.e. by going ballistic), even as late as just a few days ago (and no I'm not going to post any details about it...). - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 22:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Just another short note: in addition to his regular "normal" appearances Evlekis has on a number of occasions impersonated other LTA's, and has over the years also been blocked under other identities, resulting in multiple SPI's under other names being merged into his own report there after a thorough check, including by CU's, have found that it was indeed Evlekis operating under other identities... - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 09:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Why was I given a warning?

As far as I am concerned, I haven't even edited a page in a while, why was I given a warning? Signed, (talk) 02:30, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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Kurds

Not questioning your sanction, I’m assuming it’s part of the AP2 sanction? I’m generally confused. I don’t edit in this area nor do I ever plan to, so I’m not sure what this is about Toa Nidhiki05 00:25, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Well, hell, you ought to question it, since it wasn't meant for you. My apologies, I have too many tabs open. Carry on. Go edit about Kurds and Kurdistan if you want to. Acroterion (talk) 00:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

All good, haha. No worries. Toa Nidhiki05 02:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Why did my comments go ignored or missed?

Hello, please review the following carefully as there's a misunderstanding. From my original statement onwards here, I refuted false accusations against me with diffs, which appear to have been missed or ignored. I pointed it out a few more times in subsequent comments, and those seem to have gone ignored too. The historical stalking and direct insults notwithstanding, also demonstrated, which would have resulted in a case of WP:BOOMERANG (why was that ignored?), the accusations made in the first place were false. My last comment among others makes that clear.[27]

Of the just couple accusations, I'll point one out again. The accusation Saucysalsa30 made additional unsourced claims that Galbraith acted as a "controversial politician making a claim and attempting legislative action on something that wasn't true to push his long-running political agenda that he would eventually and profoundly benefit from financially" is unfounded. I include sources in my Talk page comments[28][29], even if I don't often see this on Talk pages, but this particular part is not unsourced anyways. There is a whole well-sourced section on the article about Galbraith's financial gains and conflict of interest since 2009. I did not say or introduce anything new. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Galbraith#Oil_controversy I did not violate BLP nor was there anything unsourced, and this was on a Talk page. I made that clear on the Talk page[30]: "This has already been talked about in a couple other Talk sections too and has been in the article and sourced since the 2000s." There are two lengthy Talk page sections about it, too.[31][32] If the accuser had bothered to read the article and Talk page after stalking me to the page, instead of immediately casting aspersions, this would not be in question in the first place.

My edits on the article, too, had nothing to do with Galbraith's oil controversy either, making the accusation even more bizarre. To put it in simple terms, this accusation is as absurd as an editor stating on the Talk page for Adolf Hitler that he was involved in the Holocaust, and, assuming hypothetically he was alive and fell under BLP, another editor false accusing that the first is violating BLP despite a whole article section on the precise topic and relevant Talk page sections on that. Then editor 1 gets in trouble.

Relevant to this topic area, an editor calling someone an ISIS sympathizer[33] got a free pass, with the admin explanation: "As for the ISIS/PKK issue, I didn't understand the context and I can see it's not black and white. You should obviously not be calling anyone a terrorist sympathizer, that's a personal attack. However I do acknowledge that the issue is complex; the PKK is considered to be a terrorist organization by some and heroes by others." Likewise, it looks like there's context you may have missed in this situation too as the above diffs and explanation demonstrate, and I didn't insult anyone either.

For now, I've proven the primary accusation against me to be completely unfounded, as I'd done along with the others on the AE section. We can go through the other couple false/misrepresented accusations one-by-one too. Given this, what did I do wrong regarding this particular accusation given this was a proven false accusation? I understand you deal with a lot of varied, complicated situations daily so I can only assume this mistake was made in good faith. Thank you. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 02:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I read your comments. You are so focused on a feud with other editors that you failed to address the substance of the complaint, which concerned your conduct. Since there is ample evidence of your disruptive conduct in the topic where sanctions are applicable, and since your behavior in the arbitration request mirrored the complaint, sanctions are warranted. Wikipedia isn't a battleground. Simply put, your conduct has been tendentious to the point of disruption. Acroterion (talk) 02:35, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

"that you failed to address the substance of the complaint, which concerned your conduct"

This unfortunately makes it clear my comments were not read, because I absolutely addressed the accusations against me like I am here. Are you saying I did not do that? Why was that ignored? There isn't "ample" evidence of my "disruptive" conduct except false accusations like above considering practically all of it was refuted, and I provided plenty to the contrary too.

Can you explain, now that it's clear that false accusations were made against me like the primary one demonstrated above as completely unfounded, how the above refuted false accusation counts against me? Saucysalsa30 (talk) 02:56, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Read WP:TE and WP:IDHT, because that's what you were doing, what you did at AE, and what you're doing now. Acroterion (talk) 02:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Right now, what I'm doing is demonstrating you took an action based on a mistake or possibly partiality, and that, as you admit, you missed my refutations of false accusations in the complaint against me. Had you not missed that, then it would have been a no action or boomerang case. That is, an action was made on the basis of false accusations against me which I had refuted. Also everything except the likewise false Peter Galbraith accusation were previously brought up in ANI and disregarded by admins as aspersions and misrepresentations, no action taken.

Why did you say I "failed to address the substance of the complaint", when I refuted every false accusation and thoroughly addressed the complaint? I'm attempting to understand for the future to make sure admins don't miss my comments again. Please give a straight response to my questions. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 03:07, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Saying that you're right and it's all cleared up now is not refutation, and unwillingness to consider any voice but your own under any circumstances is detrimental to the encyclopedia. Taken as a whole, your conduct has been tendentious to the point of disruption. That's why you're sanctioned, and trying to litigate individual issues away misses the point. That you consider every encounter with another editor as an opportunity for argument or disputation is fundamentally problematic. Acroterion (talk) 03:30, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

That is not what I'm saying at all. I already refuted the accusations and proved with many diffs I was "right" on the AE section. You said that I "failed to address the substance of the complaint" which is blatantly false as you now concede, and is evidence you didn't read my comments on the AE section. I had already refuted those accusations and show you had ignored that. We can both agree it was not a fair judgment, and is need of more competent administrators.

It's not about "individual issues" either, and I made that clear. I just pointed out the primary false accusation in this Talk section above so that the comment didn't get too wordy, and as a reminder that yes, I did refute all the accusations and it's clear the accuser was acting in bad faith and had plenty of problematic conduct and editing.

> "That you consider every encounter with another editor as an opportunity for argument or disputation is fundamentally problematic"

Could you please not cast aspersions (if anything, you're describing TheTimesAreAChanging who fights each editor that dares fixes his disruptive editing, as I'd already proven too)? There is that precise one user that has harassed, stalked, and insulted me on various articles which he had no prior activity for the last couple years because of an irrational grudge he has against me on. I already proved that. With other editors, I have had no problems like here.[34] Saucysalsa30 (talk) 04:12, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

How many ways shall I tell you that you’ve listened to no voice but your own, and that it’s a consistent, ongoing problem? All you’re doing is confirming this perception. Now you’re graduating to making your own statements in my voice. Stop that. The heart of the complaint is a consistent pattern of bludgeoning discussions, which you were doing in the topic area, which you tried to do at the beginning of AE, and which you're doing now. Far from refuting that complaint, you've made it amply clear that it's a pattern of conduct that is problematic and sanctionable. Acroterion (talk) 12:19, 11 November 2022 (UTC)