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*:::Nobody other than Stuart Neilson has put his ''own name'' to an accusation. [[User:NigelHarris|NigelHarris]] ([[User talk:NigelHarris#top|talk]]) 20:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
*:::Nobody other than Stuart Neilson has put his ''own name'' to an accusation. [[User:NigelHarris|NigelHarris]] ([[User talk:NigelHarris#top|talk]]) 20:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
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*::The referral to Alan Turing is necessary to describe the context of those years. In the modern age, Gerd Sommerhoff would have married another homosexual man and never needed to converse with any schoolboy for alleviation of solitude, but back then adult with adult homosexuality was unjustly criminalised. If he did talk with self-confessed autistic Stuart Neilson, then he exposed himself to risk of misrepresentation. Much better, then, that he had enjoyed conversations with only other gay men, in a modern day gay-bar. [[User:NigelHarris|NigelHarris]] ([[User talk:NigelHarris#top|talk]]) 19:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
*::The referral to Alan Turing is necessary to describe the context of those years. In the modern age, Gerd Sommerhoff would have married another homosexual man and never needed to converse with any schoolboy for alleviation of solitude, but back then adult with adult homosexuality was unjustly criminalised. If he did talk with self-confessed autistic Stuart Neilson, then he exposed himself to risk of misrepresentation. Much better, then, that he had enjoyed conversations with only other gay men, in a modern day gay-bar. [[User:NigelHarris|NigelHarris]] ([[User talk:NigelHarris#top|talk]]) 19:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
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== Legal threats == |
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[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] [[Special:Contributions/NigelHarris|Your recent edits]] to [[:Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard]] could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is '''''strictly prohibited''''' under Wikipedia's policies on [[Wikipedia:No legal threats|legal threats]] and [[Wikipedia:Civility|civility]]. '''Users who make such threats may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]'''. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable independent sources]] and focusing especially on [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiable]] errors of fact. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-legal --> [[User:Horse Eye's Back|Horse Eye's Back]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye's Back|talk]]) 23:35, 30 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Gerd Sommerhoff
You appear to have a WP:COI with the subject of this article and so should not be editing it, especially when that editing is in contravention of numerous Wikipedia WP:PAGs. Bon courage (talk) 18:54, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: I have raised at query about this at WP:COIN#Gerd Sommerhoff (1915-2002). Bon courage (talk) 19:30, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you look at the talk page for the article, you will see that Alan Macfarlane never heard any obloquy about his teacher until decades later. I think there is sufficient danger that Stuart Neilson is the sole origin of this moral panic, and that further checks should be conducted before publishing obloquy about either Gerd or the schools. I accept Stuart's right to be a critic, but not his right to amplify his critcism by inventing other critics. If I, as a wholly hetereosexual man, am barred from an interest in the Wikipedia Page because I knew him unfailingly to behave like a gentleman between 1996 and 2002, then anyone who is ignorant of the Law of England & Wales on defamation should likewise be barred from editing the Page, lest they cost Wikipedia and themselves the price of tortious conduct. NigelHarris (talk) 19:44, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- The dead cannot be defamed. You on the other hand have made several accusations against living people in your editing career. The purpose of an encyclopedia is merely to summarize what pertinent sources have said about subjects, and the allegations against Sommerhoff are a matter of record. Bon courage (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- A newspaper that has withdrawn its articles is not pertinent. NigelHarris (talk) 20:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Nobody other than Stuart Neilson has put his own name to an accusation. NigelHarris (talk) 20:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- The referral to Alan Turing is necessary to describe the context of those years. In the modern age, Gerd Sommerhoff would have married another homosexual man and never needed to converse with any schoolboy for alleviation of solitude, but back then adult with adult homosexuality was unjustly criminalised. If he did talk with self-confessed autistic Stuart Neilson, then he exposed himself to risk of misrepresentation. Much better, then, that he had enjoyed conversations with only other gay men, in a modern day gay-bar. NigelHarris (talk) 19:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- The dead cannot be defamed. You on the other hand have made several accusations against living people in your editing career. The purpose of an encyclopedia is merely to summarize what pertinent sources have said about subjects, and the allegations against Sommerhoff are a matter of record. Bon courage (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you look at the talk page for the article, you will see that Alan Macfarlane never heard any obloquy about his teacher until decades later. I think there is sufficient danger that Stuart Neilson is the sole origin of this moral panic, and that further checks should be conducted before publishing obloquy about either Gerd or the schools. I accept Stuart's right to be a critic, but not his right to amplify his critcism by inventing other critics. If I, as a wholly hetereosexual man, am barred from an interest in the Wikipedia Page because I knew him unfailingly to behave like a gentleman between 1996 and 2002, then anyone who is ignorant of the Law of England & Wales on defamation should likewise be barred from editing the Page, lest they cost Wikipedia and themselves the price of tortious conduct. NigelHarris (talk) 19:44, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Legal threats
Your recent edits to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:35, 30 December 2022 (UTC)