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:This article isn’t in my main scope of interest. I just came across it and noticed that the Personal Life section contained limited detail of the controversy which hadn’t been updated for a couple of years. I brought it up to date but didn’t change the structure of the article. I agree that the content would fit better in a separate section, and I’ve made that change. |
:This article isn’t in my main scope of interest. I just came across it and noticed that the Personal Life section contained limited detail of the controversy which hadn’t been updated for a couple of years. I brought it up to date but didn’t change the structure of the article. I agree that the content would fit better in a separate section, and I’ve made that change. |
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: There is however a fine line between giving additional detail of the allegations, and breaching [[WP:BLP#People accused of crime|BLP:People accused of a crime]]. These allegations have been tested once and declared unfounded (You could say there’s potential bias and COI in that declaration because the report was requisitioned by his company and we only have the chairman’s statement of what that report said or that the investigation even happened. I can’t find any actual public report. So we have to rely on the sources reporting what the chairperson said.) So all we have about the allegation are a limited number of reports of the law suite (stating the allegations) which mainly seem to be copies of each other. I don’t think this meets the requirements of the [[WP:BLP#Public figures|BLP Public Figures exception]]. So until the suit is complete I don’t think it’s appropriate to report the allegations. If you think there are good [[WP:RS]] to do so, I suggest you start a conversation on the talk page to reach agreement rather than possibly breach WP:BLP. You’re welcome to quote my response. [In an excess of caution I’ve removed the allegations from your post above]. [[User:Ayenaee|Ayenaee]] ([[User talk:Ayenaee#top|talk]]) 13:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC) |
: There is however a fine line between giving additional detail of the allegations, and breaching [[WP:BLP#People accused of crime|BLP:People accused of a crime]]. These allegations have been tested once and declared unfounded (You could say there’s potential bias and COI in that declaration because the report was requisitioned by his company and we only have the chairman’s statement of what that report said or that the investigation even happened. I can’t find any actual public report. So we have to rely on the sources reporting what the chairperson said.) So all we have about the allegation are a limited number of reports of the law suite (stating the allegations) which mainly seem to be copies of each other. I don’t think this meets the requirements of the [[WP:BLP#Public figures|BLP Public Figures exception]]. So until the suit is complete I don’t think it’s appropriate to report the allegations. If you think there are good [[WP:RS]] to do so, I suggest you start a conversation on the talk page to reach agreement rather than possibly breach WP:BLP. You’re welcome to quote my response. [In an excess of caution I’ve removed the allegations from your post above]. [[User:Ayenaee|Ayenaee]] ([[User talk:Ayenaee#top|talk]]) 13:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:Thanks [[User:Sphilbrick]]. I appreciate your thoroughness. The copyvio material (which is only part of the page - the rest is my working) was only there for me to summarise in my own words for the article - I would have removed it once done. But I see how this is copy vio. I have now removed the material you tagged and other similar notes from the page (and therefore contested the speedy delete). Is it possible to delete the tag now that I’ve removed the material so that it doesn’t get deleted by mistake? Sorry for the hassle. [[User:Ayenaee|Ayenaee]] ([[User talk:Ayenaee#top|talk]]) 15:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::Done. Thanks for attending to this - the rainimg material looks interesting. [[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 15:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Hello, Ayenaee, and welcome to Wikipedia! Qaei ☎ 17:12, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
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That is a short description? Debresser (talk) 17:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
- Debresser, no it isn't - think I had brain freeze after doing too many. Have corrected it. Thanks. Ayenaee (talk) 17:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
- I changed one word. It should be specifically "skin". Sorry for the misleading edit summary, a result of subsequent edits. Debresser (talk) 19:27, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks again.Ayenaee (talk) 20:41, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
- I changed one word. It should be specifically "skin". Sorry for the misleading edit summary, a result of subsequent edits. Debresser (talk) 19:27, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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You forgot to sign. (Feel free to delete this message.) Iskandar323 (talk) 05:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
cameron whitten
hi i'm just curious why this edit ( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cameron_Whitten&diff=prev&oldid=1183176875 ) is under Personal Life. this is not his personal life - this is his professional life. shouldn't this have a Controversy section, and more explanation of the allegations, give their serious nature [deleted allegations]. thanks. 172.58.139.161 (talk) 10:08, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi 172.58.139.161. Thanks for bringing this up. I did apply my mind when considering whether or not to include the detailed allegations in my edit.
- This article isn’t in my main scope of interest. I just came across it and noticed that the Personal Life section contained limited detail of the controversy which hadn’t been updated for a couple of years. I brought it up to date but didn’t change the structure of the article. I agree that the content would fit better in a separate section, and I’ve made that change.
- There is however a fine line between giving additional detail of the allegations, and breaching BLP:People accused of a crime. These allegations have been tested once and declared unfounded (You could say there’s potential bias and COI in that declaration because the report was requisitioned by his company and we only have the chairman’s statement of what that report said or that the investigation even happened. I can’t find any actual public report. So we have to rely on the sources reporting what the chairperson said.) So all we have about the allegation are a limited number of reports of the law suite (stating the allegations) which mainly seem to be copies of each other. I don’t think this meets the requirements of the BLP Public Figures exception. So until the suit is complete I don’t think it’s appropriate to report the allegations. If you think there are good WP:RS to do so, I suggest you start a conversation on the talk page to reach agreement rather than possibly breach WP:BLP. You’re welcome to quote my response. [In an excess of caution I’ve removed the allegations from your post above]. Ayenaee (talk) 13:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Structure of Jewish Tefilot
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A tag has been placed on Draft:Structure of Jewish Tefilot requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ana-bkoach-a-portal-to-creation/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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- Thanks User:Sphilbrick. I appreciate your thoroughness. The copyvio material (which is only part of the page - the rest is my working) was only there for me to summarise in my own words for the article - I would have removed it once done. But I see how this is copy vio. I have now removed the material you tagged and other similar notes from the page (and therefore contested the speedy delete). Is it possible to delete the tag now that I’ve removed the material so that it doesn’t get deleted by mistake? Sorry for the hassle. Ayenaee (talk) 15:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for attending to this - the rainimg material looks interesting. S Philbrick(Talk) 15:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC)