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-===15 December 2023===
-{{SPI case status|checked}}
-====Suspected sockpuppets====
-{{sock list|1=2402:A00:401:7C3E::/64|2=Dympies|3=CharlesWain|tools_link=yes}}<!-- Add more accounts or IPs to this template as needed -->
-This report follows the two preceding reports, with further evidence and a focus on possible signs displayed by {{noping|Aman.kumar.goel}}, the IP range editor, {{noping|Dympies}}, and {{noping|CharlesWain}}. From my view, as discussion continues about contentious content in the [[Divya Dwivedi]] article, there seem to be similiar writing/editing styles, including the use and defense of unreliable sources, as well as forms of personalization during various discussions, that raise some concern about use of multiple accounts to create an appearance of excessive support.
-;Background
-* There has been a dispute related to content {{noping|Dympies}} and {{noping|Aman.kumar.goel}} attempted to add to the [[Divya Dwivedi]] article: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1187963895] (Dympies), [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1187964370] (Aman.kumar.goel), [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1187968024] (Dympies), [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1187992009] (Dympies)
-* At 14:40, 4 December 2023, after the conclusion of the ANI filed against me by Aman.kumar.goel and Aman.kumar.goel's block, {{noping|Dympies}} included {{noping|CharlesWain}} in pings of several editors to discussion at the [[Divya Dwivedi]] article talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1188299599].
-* At 14:57, 4 December 2023, I noted at the article talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=next&oldid=1188299599] the disputed content was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1188145783 previously discussed at ANI], and referenced my prior comment e.g. {{tq|it seems particularly important, from a NPOV/BLP perspective, to not create original research/synthesis, e.g. in the example diff above, by taking content from one 2019 news source, that states, ''inter alia'', 'She said x about Gandhi', followed by a 2023 source that says 'she said x about the Hindu Right etc and then faced death threats', to create article content that says, 'She said x about Gandhi and then faced death threats.' No source appears to support this synthesis, and this appears to be very contentious original content to add to a BLP.}}
-;Use and defense of unreliable and questionable sources
-* Aman.kumar.goel denied usage of an unreliable portion of a source during discussion at BLPN at 19:36, 2 December 2023 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1187998396] ("Nobody used headline for information"), and I replied in a comment at 19:44, 2 December 2023 with diffs [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=next&oldid=1187998396] showing use by Aman.kumar.goel (in the article) and use by the IP range editor (at BLPN, article talk, and article edit summary).
-* CharlesWain - 06:19, 8 December 2023 at Dwivedi article talk [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1188876017] proposes the use of an obviously unreliable source and an at best questionable source, as noted in my following comment at 06:44, 8 December 2023 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=next&oldid=1188876017]. Dympies then appears to defend the sources offered by CharlesWain at 12:00, 8 December 2023 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=next&oldid=1188877871] by referring to my source review as "nitpicking".
-;Personalization, sentence structure and word choices
-* IP range editor - 13:00, 13 November 2023 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1184921030] / 13:02, 13 November 2023 Dwivedi article talk [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=next&oldid=1184921030] "...Its from 2019 and has nothing to do with what happened in "September 2023"..."
-* CharlesWain - 08:39, 7 December 2023 Dwivedi article talk [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1188728542] "2023 controversy is not same as the one from 2019. ..."
-* CharlesWain - 06:19, 8 December 2023 Dwivedi article talk [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1188876017] "If you are really going to rely on these sources ..."
-* Dympies - 12:00, 8 December 2023 Dwivedi article talk [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1188904588] "If you are seriously going to engage in this nitpicking ..."
-* Aman.kumar.goel - 18:11, 1 December 2023 BLPN [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1187830927] "I don't recall a single message of yours that has made any sense so far."
-* CharlesWain - 12:21, 15 December 2023 Dwivedi article talk [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Divya_Dwivedi&diff=prev&oldid=1190016880] "I am still finding zero sense over your exclusion of the widely covered quote."
-;Courtesy links
-* Link to Dwivedi article talk discussion: [[Talk:Divya_Dwivedi#Unsourced_contentious_content_and_WP:BLP_policy|Unsourced contentious content and WP:BLP policy]] (still open)
-* [[Special:Permalink/1188310998#Divya_Dwivedi|BLPN discussion]] (closed)
-{{pb}} [[User:Beccaynr|Beccaynr]] ([[User talk:Beccaynr|talk]]) 18:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
-;Editor interaction analyser
-Based on the [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Aman.kumar.goel&users=2402%3AA00%3A401%3A7C3E%3A%3A%2F64&users=Dympies&users=CharlesWain Editor interaction analyser], there are some possible behavioral overlaps with the above report, including:
-* [[Talk:COVID-19_pandemic_in_India#Estimations|Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in India#Estimations]] - Aman.kumar.goel and Dympies participate in a discussion about WHO estimates vs. the Indian Health Ministry.
-* [[Raju Srivastav]] - Dympies undoes work by another editor [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raju_Srivastav&diff=prev&oldid=1111697905]; is reverted with a request for talk page discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raju_Srivastav&diff=prev&oldid=1111698726]; Dympies reverts again [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raju_Srivastav&diff=prev&oldid=1111699516]; is reverted by the other editor [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raju_Srivastav&diff=prev&oldid=1111700372]; Aman.kumar.goel restores Dympies' version [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raju_Srivastav&diff=prev&oldid=1111704448]{{pb}}
-[[User:Beccaynr|Beccaynr]] ([[User talk:Beccaynr|talk]]) 19:58, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
-====<big>Comments by other users</big>====
-:<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small>
-====<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>====
-*Let's start with this: Dympies has two other accounts, {{user|Yoonadue}} and {{user|Togggle}} (they're {{confirmed}} to each other).
-**Togggle gamed autoconfirmed in order to edit the (at the time) semiprotected [[List of Jat people]], which Dympies also edited on the same day. All of their subsequent editing has been in their sandbox, where they seem to be copying bits of articles and making changes. My presumption is that one of the other accounts must copy these edits back into articles at some point, but I haven't been able to figure out where the snippets are coming from to further investigate.
-**Yoonadue's first edits were also gaming autoconfirmed, this time to edit [[Hinduism]] which has been semiprotected for at least 15 years.
-**All three accounts (including the mysterious snippets in Togggle's sandbox) edit articles related to Indian military history and demographics, but they are rather careful to avoid editing the same articles ([https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Dympies&users=Yoonadue&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki editor interaction]). But earlier this year they supported each other in a dispute at [[Chitpavan Brahmins]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1135434463 Dympies], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1137195124 Yoonadue]) and on its talk page ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chitpavan_Brahmins&diff=prev&oldid=1137196138]).
-:I'm going to leave this for a clerk to determine what to do, and I am not done checking. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] (<sup>[[User talk:Ivanvector|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ivanvector|Edits]]</sub>) 19:46, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
-*Convenience links: these accounts in '''group 1''' are {{tallyho}} '''from each other''':
-**{{checkuser|1=Yoonadue}}
-**{{checkuser|1=Dympies}}
-**{{checkuser|1=Togggle}}
-*Based on info from previous checks I did not check Aman.kumar.goel as I did not think it would be useful, but they did not show up in any of the checks I did run.
-*CharlesWain is technically {{unlikely}}, but checkuser does not rule out meatpuppetry. Note that CharlesWain has a separate case, at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dear Debasish]], their former name.
-*Group 1 is {{unlikely}} to Aman.kumar.goel and CharlesWain, and no other suspicious accounts were seen. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] (<sup>[[User talk:Ivanvector|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ivanvector|Edits]]</sub>) 20:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
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