Talk:Anti-Americanism

Move: Anti-Americanism → Anti-American sentiment

The country-specific articles use "sentiment" rather than "-ism", e.g. Anti-American sentiment in Germany, etc. ―Emperor ÖSMAN IXXVMD (talk) 08:52, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Oppose The term is used much more broadly than conveyed by "sentiment". For example, according to the lead sentence, sentiments and positions including opposition to [...] its foreign policy. NightHeron (talk) 09:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Mild Oppose I say "mild" in that the suggestion isn't egregiously wrong, and if there were consensus for it that would seem fine to me. However, per NightHeron, the term "Anti-Americanism" is generally broader in usage and this seems to be reasonably well explained in the lead. Also noting that "Anti-American sentiment" is already a redirect to this article, so anyone looking for sentiments is going to find it. CAVincent (talk) 10:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Comment: It literally says Anti-Americanism (also called anti-American sentiment or Americanophobia) is ....

(BTW, sorry for the late response.)

―Emperor ÖSMAN IXXVMD (talk) 10:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support This would be in line with pretty much all other articles on xenophobia. I'll start a move discussion?

Alexanderkowal (talk) 16:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2024

2605:B100:903:5615:96CA:E801:DC51:58AC (talk) 20:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Add Canada to list of countries that despise Americans.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 20:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024

Request to add Pro-Americanism under a suitable paragraph or See also. 223.25.74.34 (talk) 04:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done It might be a good idea to put it in the lead. —Panamitsu (talk) 04:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 8 June 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Current title demonstrated to be the WP:COMMONAME. (closed by non-admin page mover) Polyamorph (talk) 10:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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Anti-Americanism → Anti-American sentiment – This would be in line with almost all other articles on xenophobia, such as Anti-Albanian sentiment, Anti-African sentiment, Anti-Afghan sentiment, Anti-Armenian sentiment, Anti-Assyrian sentiment, Anti-Azerbaijani sentiment, and that is just those beginning with 'A'. It is very commonly used in academia, although I don't know whether it is marginally more common than the status quo. Alexanderkowal (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian (talk) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. See Google Ngrams. There are other "anti-____ism" articles like Anti-Europeanism where that is the common name. SilverLocust 💬 13:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

  Do we know what’s used more in academia? Alexanderkowal (talk) 08:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

For what's its worth, reiterating my mild oppose for the same reasons that I gave when this came up (above) last September. CAVincent (talk) 05:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Currently tied; nore input needed. Favonian (talk) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Reverting close and relisting, per request on my talk page to allow for additional input BilledMammal (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Currently the only evidence of a WP:COMMONNAME is the Ngrams graph, which shows a strong preference for the current title. Briefly going over the references in the article, both the current and proposed titles are used, but it seems that the current title is more common. If the nominator or another editor can find evidence that "Anti-American sentiment" is the more common name, ping me and I will reconsider; if this discussion has been closed, feel free to start a new one. However, with the current evidence, I oppose this move. Toadspike [Talk] 15:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

  Anti-Americanism is the more common name, but its inconsistency with other articles on xenophobia implies American exceptionalism. Only the European and American examples except this convention (sometimes racism replaces negative sentiment depending on context) Alexanderkowal (talk) 15:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

  Comment 1) Consistency between article naming conventions is a considerably less compelling argument than WP:COMMONNAME. 2) Suggesting that the name of this article implies American exceptionalism seems a bit overwrought. CAVincent (talk) 05:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

  Concur with CAVincent. --Coolcaesar (talk) 16:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

  I’m just saying that it is very ironic for an article on negative sentiment towards American people to be titled in a way that makes it exceptional. I would’ve thought that especially American people would want to counter this. Policy is a guideline remember Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

  Wikipedia:Consistency in article titles is arguably more compelling than WP:Common name, I'm surprised there is such opposition to this. Kowal2701 (talk) 19:34, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Per WP:COMMONNAME as discussed above. --Coolcaesar (talk) 17:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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