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== Lead section reads like a opinion ==
== Recent edits ==
The lead section should include only stats and not views of certain people it needs a new rewrite. [[User:KarunArjun|KarunArjun]] ([[User talk:KarunArjun|talk]]) 12:01, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

It is also biased, it doesn’t include the severe penalties for rapists or the fact that Pashtunwali decrees rapists are one of only two types of individuals who are not to be given sanctuary. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.97.149.57|2.97.149.57]] ([[User talk:2.97.149.57#top|talk]]) 10:25, 16 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: Actually I think it is minimizing the role of the Pakistani government of giving immunities to rapists of Christian and Hindu girls. Also, it is not emphasized enough that it is legal in Pakistan for a husband to rape his wife. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.176.208.170|79.176.208.170]] ([[User talk:79.176.208.170#top|talk]]) 08:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Definition of two-finger test ==

@ {{u|Samarasuma}}

It seems your good faith addition of definition of [[Two-finger test]] may not be accurate enough and seems to narrate same illogical public misconception that 'two finger test' can be ok to know if a woman was raped, and you know such notion is not correct and leads to continuation of injustice to women; I hope you can revisit the sentence and present more nuanced information in more accurate way.

Thanks and warm regards

[[User:Bookku|Bookku]] ([[User talk:Bookku|talk]]) 12:25, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I will remove the definition [[User:Samarasuma|Samarasuma]] ([[User talk:Samarasuma|talk]]) 12:51, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


== [[Cynthia D. Ritchie]] ==
Minar-e-pakistan you are adding [[WP:OR]] to this article, and also misrepresenting sources. For instance, how does the source used support this[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_Pakistan&diff=prev&oldid=504588952] edit? I urge you self revert and begin discussion. [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 15:36, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:Discuss only current content from top newspaper dawn. Removed past content. [[User:Minar-e-pakistan|Minar-e-pakistan]] ([[User talk:Minar-e-pakistan|talk]]) 15:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::this is a proper addition [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rape_in_Pakistan&diff=504600674&oldid=504594947] to the article I don't think their should be any issue --[[User:Ratnakar.kulkarni|sarvajna]] ([[User talk:Ratnakar.kulkarni|talk]]) 15:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you very much sarvajna. [[User:Minar-e-pakistan|Minar-e-pakistan]] ([[User talk:Minar-e-pakistan|talk]]) 16:13, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::::This is the only proper addition you have made, there are several issue with your additions to [[Cinema of Pakistan]]. Please self revert.--[[User:Ratnakar.kulkarni|sarvajna]] ([[User talk:Ratnakar.kulkarni|talk]]) 16:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


Greetings,
== Recent edit ==


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[[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]], you have left out the Dawn newspaper citation I added about the village Panchayat indulging in a tit for tat punishment, due to which, unfortunately, the sister of the man who eloped with his girl-friend got gang-raped. Isn't it notable enough to be added to this article?—[[User:Khabboos|Khabboos]] ([[User talk:Khabboos|talk]]) 14:46, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
:I did not restore in because it has no place in the lede, nor the article. Read [[WP:UNDUE]] [[User:Darkness Shines|Darkness Shines]] ([[User talk:Darkness Shines|talk]]) 15:38, 25 March 2014 (UTC)


[[User:Bookku|Bookku]] ([[User talk:Bookku|talk]]) 18:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
== Lead section rewrite ==


== useful refs ==
I've tagged the lead section for a rewrite because it is currently more about specific instances than an overview of the topic ([[MOS:LEAD]]). The case of [[Mukhtaran Bibi]] is certainly tragic, but in a Rape in Pakistan article, it would be more appropriate to discuss the prevalence of rape in Pakistan, rather than giving preference to a single case. ―<span style="background:#8FF;border:solid 1px;border-radius:8px;box-shadow:darkgray 3px 3px 1px;font-family:Segoe Print">&nbsp;[[User:Padenton|<span style="color:#C00">Padenton</span>]]&nbsp;&#124;[[User talk:Padenton|&#9742;]]&nbsp;</span> 22:33, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


* https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/911437-pushing-back-rape-culture
== Minorities ==


[[User:Bookku|&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39;]] ([[User talk:Bookku|talk]]) 08:12, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
I am surprised by the almost complete lack of reference to the targetting of vulnerable minorities, which in my reading of this gruesome subject has been a frequent theme. I have added a tiny sample of direct reports, but I am aware the same is true of other groups, Sikhs, Ahmeddiyyas, Hindus and no doubt others too. Further referencing and supplementation is welcome. [[User:Cpsoper|Cpsoper]] ([[User talk:Cpsoper|talk]]) 22:27, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
:And I am surprised at the way you added POV and [[WP:SYNTHESIS]] the info that you added. There's no denying that minorities are raped in Pakistan but you wont be allowed to present it as if it's Pakistanis' favorite pastime. Using not RS websites that too mostly from a single author and cherry-picking info to synthesis it into something which it is not is contentious editing. Please see to these issues and we both can add/expand this section.—[[User:TripWire|<font face="Eras Demi ITC"><b><font color="DarkMagenta">Trip</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">Wire ︢ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︡ ︢ ︡ </font></b></font>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:TripWire|ʞlɐʇ]]</sup> 10:04, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
:: I disagree, BF is not a single author site, nor are the others I've cited. They are RS, but I'm happy to check this with the RS noticeboard. I have no COI, can you please confirm the same, no formal connections with the government of Pakistan? It is not synth to summarise the contents of such citations, please reread the policy. The rmv of well sourced data is wholly unjustified. Indeed there is a great deal that can be usefully supplemented. [[User:Cpsoper|Cpsoper]] ([[User talk:Cpsoper|talk]]) 21:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
:::Sure. You know what, before we proceed further on the issue, I will request you to actually read the policy on CoI and refrain from casting [[WP:ASPERSIONS]]. You do that, and I will be glad to talk about this again. Because going by your understanding every American while editing Donald Trump will be having a coI, every Indian editing Rapes in Indian will have a CoI and every Martian editing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars Water on Mars] will also have CoI. Alternatively, we can have a chit-chat at the ANI to resolve this issue first and then come back to the issue at hand.
:::P.S. I was planning to discuss each of your source as I had a few objections on each while allowing you to respond accordingly, but I think I will hold that thought for now as you are still at the second tier of Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement from the bottom, which you have displayed prominently at your user/talkpage.—[[User:TripWire|<font face="Eras Demi ITC"><b><font color="DarkMagenta">Trip</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">Wire ︢ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︢ ︡ ︡ ︢ ︡ </font></b></font>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:TripWire|ʞlɐʇ]]</sup> 22:04, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
: I have reverted the removal of well sourced material, in the light of this response. Happy to discuss further. [[User:Cpsoper|Cpsoper]] ([[User talk:Cpsoper|talk]]) 23:28, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:18, 8 September 2024

Lead section reads like a opinion

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The lead section should include only stats and not views of certain people it needs a new rewrite. KarunArjun (talk) 12:01, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is also biased, it doesn’t include the severe penalties for rapists or the fact that Pashtunwali decrees rapists are one of only two types of individuals who are not to be given sanctuary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.149.57 (talk) 10:25, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I think it is minimizing the role of the Pakistani government of giving immunities to rapists of Christian and Hindu girls. Also, it is not emphasized enough that it is legal in Pakistan for a husband to rape his wife. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.176.208.170 (talk) 08:16, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of two-finger test

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@ Samarasuma

It seems your good faith addition of definition of Two-finger test may not be accurate enough and seems to narrate same illogical public misconception that 'two finger test' can be ok to know if a woman was raped, and you know such notion is not correct and leads to continuation of injustice to women; I hope you can revisit the sentence and present more nuanced information in more accurate way.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 12:25, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I will remove the definition Samarasuma (talk) 12:51, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings,

Wikipedia has an article Cynthia D. Ritchie, you are requested to update, expand, copy edit the article. Also you can help the same by adding the article to your watch list.

Bookku (talk) 18:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

useful refs

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Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 08:12, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]