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== Name transliteration ==
== Name transliteration ==
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Transliteration of his name does not correspond the proper National system of the [[Romanization of Ukrainian]]. [[User:Aleksandr Grigoryev|Aleksandr Grigoryev]] ([[User talk:Aleksandr Grigoryev|talk]]) 15:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Transliteration of his name does not correspond the proper National system of the [[Romanization of Ukrainian]]. [[User:Aleksandr Grigoryev|Aleksandr Grigoryev]] ([[User talk:Aleksandr Grigoryev|talk]]) 15:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
*But current transliteration [[Volodymyr Groysman]] used in reliable sources [http://www.vmr.gov.ua/en/Lists/News/ShowNews.aspx?ID=1] [http://www.coe.int/t/congress/whoswho/fiche-indiv_en.asp?id=E6715508-D6F2-44CE-94D4-8D147B7D7B8C] [http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Portals/0/documents/projects/Ukraine/Ltr%20to%20V.%20Groysman%20from%20JJRikoon.PDF] etc. [[User:Nickst|NickSt]] ([[User talk:Nickst|talk]]) 15:43, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
*But current transliteration [[Volodymyr Groysman]] used in reliable sources [http://www.vmr.gov.ua/en/Lists/News/ShowNews.aspx?ID=1] [http://www.coe.int/t/congress/whoswho/fiche-indiv_en.asp?id=E6715508-D6F2-44CE-94D4-8D147B7D7B8C] [http://www.heritageabroad.gov/Portals/0/documents/projects/Ukraine/Ltr%20to%20V.%20Groysman%20from%20JJRikoon.PDF] etc. [[User:Nickst|NickSt]] ([[User talk:Nickst|talk]]) 15:43, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::{{u|Nickst}}, but how is that consistent with the [[Romanization of Ukrainian]]? Could it be that whoever transliterated the webpage is not familiar with the official [[Romanization of Ukrainian]]? Are we looking for an uniformity or "reliability" of questionable origin? [[User:Aleksandr Grigoryev|Aleksandr Grigoryev]] ([[User talk:Aleksandr Grigoryev|talk]]) 15:20, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
:::The fact that part of the media use the Russian transcription should have no influence on our transcription here. Of course, since the Russian transcription is often (not always) used, it should be mentioned. --[[User:Bernardoni|Bernardoni]] ([[User talk:Bernardoni|talk]]) 12:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
:The surname has a Yiddish-German origin ( ‏גרױסמאַן‏‎ - Großmann - Big/Greatman), therefore there is used other writing.--[[User:UeArtemis|Юе Артеміс]] ([[User talk:UeArtemis|talk]]) 09:26, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

== appointed as acting Prime Minister ==

a few news articles references to his appointment
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/hroisman-appointed-ukraines-acting-prime-minister-357806.html <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:StuB63|StuB63]] ([[User talk:StuB63|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/StuB63|contribs]]) 04:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
http://en.apa.az/news/214398
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/politics/58114.html
http://www.jta.org/2014/07/24/news-opinion/world/volodymyr-groysman-tapped-as-acting-premier-in-ukraine
http://en.ria.ru/politics/20140724/191215154.html

havent seen anything from Ukraine government yet [[User:StuB63|StuB63]] ([[User talk:StuB63|talk]]) 03:16, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

== His Jewish religion in Infobox ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Volodymyr_Groysman&action=history I am in a small edit dispute] with [[User:Денис П.|Денис П.]] about the mentioning of Groysman's religious affiliation. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Volodymyr_Groysman&diff=prev&oldid=717116817 Денис П. believes Groysman never declared his religious affiliation so the fact that he is a Jew, does not mean that it is part of the Jewish religion]. A [[The Jerusalem Post]] [http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Ukrainian-president-taps-Jewish-politician-to-be-next-prime-minister-451215#article=6017QzE5NEI0OTNDRDk0QThBN0Q3NjYxQTM3NkIyNzFFQ0E= piece strongly hints that he declared his religious affiliation to be] [[Judaism]]. Do we need more sources? — '''[[User:Yulia Romero|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:orange">Yulia Romero</span>]]'''&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User_talk:Yulia Romero|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:blue">Talk to me!</span>]] 22:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
::{{u|Yulia Romero}}, Hello Yulia! In Ukraine, until 1991 there were about a million jews, a significant portion of them were jews by religion. But just after the anti-religious policy of the Soviet Union many jews become orthodox and atheists. Now in Ukraine such a significant part of all. So it is necessary to take a factors of cultural assimilation (Groisman's wife is ikrainian by nationality etc.). Therefore, I believe that we should not ascribe Groysman any religious, about which he never claimed (unlike the example, Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Poroshenko, etc.). As for the Israeli media: they see what they want to see. For example Israeli Forbes in 2014 took Tatar Rinat Akhmetov to list of the richest jews. Based on this, please leave a page in its current form, thank you! [[User:Денис П.|Денис П.]] 11:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

== [[Ukrainian Strategy]] redirects here ==

Is the article [[Ukrainian Strategy]] going to be written? Because it is linked in this article, yet redirects to it.--[[User:Adûnâi|Adûnâi]] ([[User talk:Adûnâi|talk]]) 01:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:46, 11 September 2024

Name transliteration

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Transliteration of his name does not correspond the proper National system of the Romanization of Ukrainian. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nickst, but how is that consistent with the Romanization of Ukrainian? Could it be that whoever transliterated the webpage is not familiar with the official Romanization of Ukrainian? Are we looking for an uniformity or "reliability" of questionable origin? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:20, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that part of the media use the Russian transcription should have no influence on our transcription here. Of course, since the Russian transcription is often (not always) used, it should be mentioned. --Bernardoni (talk) 12:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The surname has a Yiddish-German origin ( ‏גרױסמאַן‏‎ - Großmann - Big/Greatman), therefore there is used other writing.--Юе Артеміс (talk) 09:26, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

appointed as acting Prime Minister

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a few news articles references to his appointment

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/hroisman-appointed-ukraines-acting-prime-minister-357806.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuB63 (talkcontribs) 04:11, 25 July 2014 (UTC) 
http://en.apa.az/news/214398
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/politics/58114.html
http://www.jta.org/2014/07/24/news-opinion/world/volodymyr-groysman-tapped-as-acting-premier-in-ukraine
http://en.ria.ru/politics/20140724/191215154.html[reply]

havent seen anything from Ukraine government yet StuB63 (talk) 03:16, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

His Jewish religion in Infobox

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I am in a small edit dispute with Денис П. about the mentioning of Groysman's religious affiliation. Денис П. believes Groysman never declared his religious affiliation so the fact that he is a Jew, does not mean that it is part of the Jewish religion. A The Jerusalem Post piece strongly hints that he declared his religious affiliation to be Judaism. Do we need more sources? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yulia Romero, Hello Yulia! In Ukraine, until 1991 there were about a million jews, a significant portion of them were jews by religion. But just after the anti-religious policy of the Soviet Union many jews become orthodox and atheists. Now in Ukraine such a significant part of all. So it is necessary to take a factors of cultural assimilation (Groisman's wife is ikrainian by nationality etc.). Therefore, I believe that we should not ascribe Groysman any religious, about which he never claimed (unlike the example, Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Poroshenko, etc.). As for the Israeli media: they see what they want to see. For example Israeli Forbes in 2014 took Tatar Rinat Akhmetov to list of the richest jews. Based on this, please leave a page in its current form, thank you! Денис П. 11:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Strategy redirects here

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Is the article Ukrainian Strategy going to be written? Because it is linked in this article, yet redirects to it.--Adûnâi (talk) 01:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]