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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:51, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tushar Palve

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Biography of a doctor makes no claim of notability sufficient to satisfy WP:BIO. Highest claim is that he ran a 350-bed hospital. Associate professor, no notable academic achievements, a handful of low citation count articles, nothing to satisfy WP:NPROF.

I have done WP:BEFORE searches and have found no significant independent coverage although his name does get a lot of search hits, too many to read all of them. I'd reconsider my nomination if someone turns up some significant coverage (but see next paragraph).

This article was tagged for WP:BIO then WP:PROD but editor @user:Monophile removed the PROD tag and re-added the BIO template after adding links that simply mention or quote the article subject, plus self-penned or promotional articles like this, none of which are significant coverage. If new sources can't bring it up to BIO, it should be deleted. Oblivy (talk) 03:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 18:07, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto Insurance

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Non-notable business, promotional. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NCORP. Cabrils (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. asilvering (talk) 01:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

McCoy, Indiana

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Another rail point that apparently someone hoped would become a town, but "platted" does not inevitably lead to "constructed", and there's no sign there was ever anything other than station that apparently held the first post office. McCoy is a common name so lots of false hits, exacerbated by a "Lake McCoy" to the northeast, which of late seems to have been the subject of local political problems which paywalls unfortunately block my knowledge of. Mangoe (talk) 03:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. I see a consensus to Keep this article. Liz Read! Talk! 03:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dummy (band)

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Non-notable music group. Fails WP:BAND. Cabrils (talk) 03:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete as WP:G5‎. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dumuria Technical School and College

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Non-notable school. Fails WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 03:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify‎. Liz Read! Talk! 03:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So Be Steadfast Operations Room

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Non-notable minor political faction. Fails WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 03:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 03:13, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Janith Kashan

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Non-notable Sri Lankan businessman. Promotional. Fails WP:ANYBIO. Cabrils (talk) 03:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 07:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 02:51, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Freeland Wood

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Does not PASS WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sources listed are all from a local paper while the other is election results. After an internet search there does not appear to be anymore significant coverage to make him notable. Grahaml35 (talk) 02:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. ✗plicit 02:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barra Head (band)

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No credible claim of notability. Too underground to pass NMUSIC, and doesn't pass GNG either. Badbluebus (talk) 02:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There are reviews and coverage from Gaffa ([1], [2], [3] + other coverage), Undertoner [da] ([4], [5], [6], [7], [8]) Visions [de] ([9], [10] + some information in [11], [12]) and Ox-Fanzine ([13], [14], interview) toweli (talk) 13:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination withdrawn with no remaining delete proposals. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 20:49, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Death Threat (hip hop group)

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Doesn't pass WP:NMUSIC. Badbluebus (talk) 02:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I've added several sources to the article. I think that they're notable as one of the pioneers of gangsta rap in the Philippines and are also notable as they gave Gloc-9, one of the most influential rappers in the country, his start in the hip hop community. They could use stronger sources, but for now these should be enough to keep it. (P.S. I do not listen to gangsta rap) D-Flo27 (talk) 16:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw. The new sources added state that Death Threat was the first (or one of the first) prominent gangsta rap group in the Philippines and that they do have some historical significance for their hip-hop scene, so it passes WP:BAND-7. Badbluebus (talk) 17:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 02:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ulrich Lange

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Only source is a self-published website anyone can edit. It's certainly possible that this could be a notable topic, although I was unable to locate entries in standard music reference works that cover people like this such as the New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians or Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians. Both foreign language wiki articles are built off of the same source. A reasonable WP:ATD could be redirecting this to Thomaskantor. 4meter4 (talk) 14:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep, I found mentions of him in some books:
Bach's Famous Choir, The Saint Thomas School in Leipzig, 1212-1804, devotes about a paragraph to Lange on page 22, where it's mentioned that he composed St Mark Passion which was performed into the 17th century
The Renaissance: From the 1470s to the End of the 16th Century, gives another paragraph to the subject on page 276 Microplastic Consumer (talk) 16:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately the second source is only available in snippet view, so it is hard to judge the depth of coverage. The first source largely covers his contributions as Thomaskantor which could easily be used to expand that article. I'm still not convinced a separate article is needed on this person. It's borderline.4meter4 (talk) 17:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a screenshot from that second book. More digging found a german language source from 1920 published by the University of Illinois; Geschichte der deutschen Musik von den Anfängen bis zum Beginn des Dreissigjährigen Krieges which on page 411 discusses Lange. Monatschrift für Gottesdienst und kirchliche Kunst mentions him on page 184 as well.
Meister der Renaissancemusik an der Viadrina, Quellenbeiträge zur Geisteskultur des Nordosten Deutschlands vor dem Dreissigjährigen Kriege seems to have some info on Lange (p 78) prior to being Thomaskantor, but is just a snippet. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 18:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment same source [15] as used in my discussion for the Otto AfD (right above this one)... I'm more clear about Otto's deletion discussion than this one, I'm not sure if this person is notable or not. Otto has a lack of sourcing.Oaktree b (talk) 05:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Network Crack Program Hacker Group#Wicked Rose. Liz Read! Talk! 02:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wicked Rose

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All information is contained and better summarized at NCPH Group. Tule-hog (talk) 01:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Withdrawn, found second source. (non-admin closure) PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An Open Heart (book)

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No reviews except the single one I added to the page and one from a fringe integrated medicine publication which doesn't count. Redirect to 14th Dalai Lama#Publications? PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 01:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Shefsky

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Subject does not meet notability criteria per WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Sources provided are mainly primary, and the ones that aren't are (1) an obituary, (2) Find a Grave, (3) an article about an exhibition of his letters to a pen pal, (4) a couple of notices about a tribute by one of his students. None of the sources are about him in any significant way. ... discospinster talk 01:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I should've submitted for review. There are three newspaper articles concerning his work or renditions of it, two concerning performances of his poems by Northwestern, and another about an exhibit of his work after his death. Though I can easily link others. He seems to be congruent with a notable academic or creative figure. Hypnosef (talk) 01:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added further sources, let me know if more is still required Hypnosef (talk) 01:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would respectfully disagree that none of the sources pertain to him in any significant way.
  1. Source #5 fourteeneastmag.com details "the touring exhibition Poet to Poet: Living Letters, a 13-year correspondence between poet Abe Louise Young and poet Alan Shefsky. Their friendship was preserved in loose leaf papers of written word before Shefsky died from a brain tumor." The source explicitly pertains to his being a poet and his dying of a brain tumor. 2. #6 chicago tribune, details the two's friendship, their long correspondence, and his death from cancer. 3. prizer arts and letters, states that this touring exhibition travelled to Austin, Texas. 4. Sources 8&9 are his poems published in a well-known literary journal. The find a grave and obit were simply to establish birth and death years as they were less readily available than other information. I have also added ten different publications that thank Shefsky by name, though many more exist. These should be sufficient to establish his lasting impact in the academic community. He was a very well-known figure at Northwestern for years.
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Does anyone have any other input? Hypnosef (talk) 22:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Liz! Not sure how to get more opinions in here, but I'll acquiesce to whatever the group decision is. However, I'm certainly of the opinion that the topic is worthy of an article. He was a local poet of decent renown that I read a lot in my teenage years. Hypnosef (talk) 22:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Looks like a consensus to Keep this article. Liz Read! Talk! 02:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lesedi FM

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Article about radio station with much unsourced content and lack of independant sources or significant coverage. On inspection one of the three sources appears to fail verification as well. It might be possible that the article could be merged into South African Broadcasting Corporation if, as is claimed in the lead, the station is a subsidiary of that organization, but I cannot find confirmation of this fact. Lenny Marks (talk) 00:48, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[25][26] (one of the largest radio listener bases in South Africa) etc etc. I got tired of finding sources (I’m on mobile) but there is a large amount of coverage Park3r (talk) 08:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy keep‎. Withdrawn, sources presented (non-admin closure) PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:18, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Atlas of the World

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I am unable to find any sources that discuss this in depth. The book is an English translation of the 1962 edition of the Cappelens historiske atlas, which I couldn't find any sources for either but I don't know where to look for obscure sources in Norwegian; if that's notable we could make it a page on that. This looks like about a paragraph, could be more, but the preview cuts off and it's all I could find. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ten reviews in newspapers or periodicals on the 1962 edition
Two reviews in newspapers or periodicals on the 1983 edition
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The result was keep‎. given the newly found sources. Liz Read! Talk! 02:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedpost (book)

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One solid review already linked in the page, nothing else to fulfill NBOOK. Redirect to Shobhaa De? This on Google Books says something about it but I can't figure out if it's useful since the preview cuts off. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment can anyone manage to look at what the Google Books link is for? It looks like sigcov but I really can't tell. :/ PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says:

    A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:

    1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.
    Sources
    1. Banker, Ashok (1999). "Penguin Books India: Speedpost". Indian Review of Books. p. 28. Retrieved 2024-09-18 – via Google Books.

      The review notes: "... Then again, never before has there been anyone quite like Shobha Dé. The letters themselves are readable, as Dé's writing always is. There's even a lot of good advice here. And some genuine insights and observations into Dé's extremely balanced and sensible approach to parenting. No argument with that at all. But the good sense is constantly overshadowed by one inescapable fact: Speedpost and its accompanying hype does more to introduce use to Dé's six children than anything else. To launch them, so to speak. To present these six specimens of perfect parenting with a flourish. This, rather than the good advice, is what you're left with at the end of this book, if you can call it a book. In previous ages, an aristocratic parent would organize a sumptuous 'coming-out' party for her scion when she came of age. A debutante ball. In an age where the media itself is one big high society party, Speedpost provides the ultimate debutante ball for Dé's six children. In doing so, she publicly exposes even that most private of human areas: a parent and child's intimate relationship. That itself damages Dé's claim to good parenting irreparably."

    2. Bose, Brinda (2000-01-03). "Book review: Shobha De's 'Speedpost'". India Today. Archived from the original on 2024-09-18. Retrieved 2024-09-18.

      The review notes: "The most important fact about these letters authored by De is that they were never sent - by speedpost, e-mail or snail mail - to any of her children at any time of their lives. They were created as part of an innovative new project launched at the beginning of 1999 by a best-selling fiction-writer, as a millennium gift for her six children (and herself and her publisher, inconsequentially. ... The book is a feel-good autobiographical tale with a structural innovation - but it comes in a spontaneous-and-personal disguise, and the fakeness of the enterprise leaps from between the lines. ... But De is climbing the bestseller charts."

    3. Patidar, Renu (2013). Shobha De's Contribution to Post-colonial Indian English Fiction (PhD thesis). Devi Ahilya Vishwavidyalaya. pp. 193–195. ProQuest 2314278468.

      The PhD thesis notes: "Speedpost. This is one of De's best books and she has dedicated it purely to her children. The letters are about living, loving, caring, and coping with this world. She touches almost each and every emotion of the human mind and slowly but carefully prepares the children to face the world. She tells her children to think rationally and be witty to act. Her tone is soft, persuasive and lovable. Her intentions are worried and positive as a mother of young growing children. Each letter is written separately to a different child covering topics like—family values and tradition, and other dilemmas of parents. She knows growing up kids have their own anxieties and problems and parent's harsh and cruel behavior is only in their intention for the child's good. She is not hesitant to discuss sensitive topics with her children as she understands the need of the time and wants them to know what they should but correctly and through someone experienced and guiding."

      The PhD thesis notes: "It is one of her bestselling books. It is close to anyone's heart who reads it. This is a firm slap on the face of contemporary critics who tell that her work is erotic, cheap and outright thrash. Here in this book one doesn't find the three or four letter word, literary none. She knows what else sells in this world except eroticism and she bags that in her book. Themes which can be categorized as love, emotions, family and above all mother. She mentions in the initial page 'God must be a mother'."

      The PhD thesis spends a few additional paragraphs discussing the book.

    4. Less significant coverage:
      1. Muteba, Bertha (2007). Curry, Jennifer; Ramm, David; Rich, Mari; Rolls, Albert (eds.). World Authors, 2000–2005. New York: H. W. Wilson Company. p. 152. ISBN 978-0-8242-1077-9. Retrieved 2024-09-18 – via Internet Archive.

        The book notes: "Dé next published Speedpost: Letters to My Children about Living, Loving, Caring and Coping with the World (1999), which touched on family values and adolescent anxieties, written in the form of a series of letters to her six children. "The letters were a literary device to raise certain issues. It was my way of marking [the new millennium]. And my kids loved it too," she told Subha J. Rao for the national Indian newspaper the Hindu (February 10, 2003). The book has found a large audience and has been translated into Hindi (the official language of India) and Marathi (spoken mainly in the Indian state of Maharashtra and in the central part of the country), with upcoming versions in Malayalam (spoken by about 35 million people, mainly in southwest India) and Gujarati (the official language of the Indian state of Gujarat on the country's west coast, spoken by about 40 million people)."

      2. Krishnan, Mini (2005). "Letters (India)". In Benson, Eugene; Conolly, L.W. (eds.). Encyclopedia of Post-Colonial Literatures in English (2 ed.). Abingdon: Routledge. ISBN 978-0415-278850. ProQuest 2137908344.

        The book notes: "Shobha Dé, the pulp fiction writer, has used the epistolary form in her non-fiction book, Speedpost: Letters to My Children about Living, Loving, Caring and Coping with the World (1999)."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Speedpost to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 10:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cunard Thank you! This is enough for me to change my vote to keep. Also, how did you manage to look at the google books preview? PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi PARAKANYAA (talk · contribs). Thank you for revising your position! Here are some Google Books searches I did:
  1. Speedpost Shobhadid
  2. "special human bond there is . In this book , best"
  3. "and child in the twenty - first century : family values and tradition"
  4. "growing pains and adolescent anxieties about love , sex and friendship"
Each Google Books search revealed more of the book's text in the search results. I used the quote at the end of each search to do my next search. This allowed me to combine all the quotes together in Banker 1999. If you want the text before a quote, you can use the asterisk character at the beginning of the search:
  • "*special human bond there is . In this book , best"
In Google Books, this returns:
  • "... most special human bond there is . In this book , best - selling author Shobha De writes a series of letters to her six children on the key concerns of every mother and child in the twenty - first century : family values and tradition"
This approach works in many cases but doesn't always work. If the page has a header or footer that's repeated on every page, that could be included in the result and make it impossible to get the text. Cunard (talk) 08:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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