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{{afc comment|1=I think this needs some rewriting in order to be eligible for Wikipedia in order to more clearly explain the importance of the case in France and the reasons why it is possibly landmark/notable. Bearing in mind that it contains biographical information about a living person (see [[WP:BLP]]), I am uncomfortable with the tone, particularly the description of the person convicted and the circumstances leading up to the case, and there is a lack of sources for some statements. That said, this is clearly a well researched piece and I would suggest talking to the Teahouse and also ensuring that every controversial statement is supported by a sound reference. As an appeal has been launched and this is such a sensitive subject, I think it advisable to be very cautious. I have sent a link to the Teahouse to your Talk page. [[User:Libby norman|Libby norman]] ([[User talk:Libby norman|talk]]) 00:02, 19 November 2013 (UTC)}} |
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'''{{short description|None}}''' |
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[[:fr:Documents de Boxheim]] |
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Agnès Marin was a female murdered by Mathieu Moulinas on November 11, 2011 in Chambon-sur-Lignon. |
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This murder was perticulary notable because of the bbrutality of the act, the youth of both the victim and the allegd killer and the fact the alleged affender was under investigation for committing another rape a year earlier. |
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== Murder == |
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On November 11, 2011, in [[Le Chambon-sur-Lignon|Chambon-sur-Lignon]], in the ''département'' of [[Haute-Loire]], Agnès Marin<ref group="Note">Even through juvenile victims should be anonymised, as stipulates the French law, her name was released by her family.</ref>, 13-years-old, went with Mathieu Moulinas<ref group="Note">Even though French law forbids to reveal any information enabling to name a minor offender, his last name leaked to the press as "Moulinas"</ref>, nearly 18, both being alumnis at ''[[Le Collège-Lycée Cévenol International|Les Cévenoles]]''[[Le Collège-Lycée Cévenol International| boarding school]], to look for [[hallucinogenic mushrooms]] in the forrest; once there, Moulinas proceded to [[rape]] Agnès then [[stabbed]] her 17 time and finally burned her body with the petrol he had brought before<ref name=":0">{{Cite news|title = France in shock over rape and murder of 13-year old girl|date = November 21, 2011|url = http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8904642/France-in-shock-over-rape-and-murder-of-13-year-old-girl.html|last = Samuel|first = Henry|work = [[The Telegraph]]|accessdate = November 7, 2013}}</ref>.<ref name=":3">{{Cite news|title = French girl Agnes Marin raped and killed by 17-year-old|date = November 22, 2011|url = http://www.heraldsun.com.au/archive/news/french-girl-agnes-marin-was-raped-and-burned-by-17-year-old/story-e6frf7lf-1226202288756|agency = [[Agence France-Presse]]|accessdate = November 9, 2013|newspaper = [[Herald Sun]]}} |
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=== Agnès Marin === |
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'''Agnès Marin '''(b. {{Birth date|1997|november|26}}) had been enroled by her parents at the ''Cévenolles'' boarding school in ''4th''<ref group="Note">The French equivalent of the Eigth grade in the U.S.</ref>'' ''because of bad company and [[marijuana]] consommation at her former junior high school |
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She has been [[Burial|buried]] on {{Date|2011|november|26}}, her would-be 14th [[birthday]]. |
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=== Controversies === |
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Some in France critized the several different failures of the judicial system, whether by freeing such suspect after three months and putting him in a [[Co-educational|co-ed]] [[boarding school]] or the non communication to Mathueu's judicial supervisor of the fact he was nearly expelled for typing "[[Child pornography|pedo sex]]" in a motor research<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":3" /><ref name=":1">{{Cite news|title = Autopsie d'un drame|date = June 20, 2012|url = http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2012/06/20/autopsie-d-un-drame_1721770_3224.html|last = Davet|first = Gérard|work = [[Le Monde]]|accessdate = November 7, 2013|location = France|trans_title = Autopsy of a drama|language = fr}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|title = France Calls for Reform After Murder of Girl, 13|date = November 23, 2011|url = http://plus.lefigaro.fr/note/france-calls-for-reform-after-murder-of-girl-13-20111123-607566|work = Le Figaro|accessdate = November 8, 2013|department = Le Figaro in English|location = France}} |
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</ref>.<ref name=":2">{{Cite news|title = Un proche de la 1ère victime de l'agresseur d'Agnès parle|date = November 22, 2011|url = http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2011/11/22/01016-20111122ARTFIG00402-un-proche-de-la-1ere-victime-de-l-agresseur-d-agnes-parle.php|last = Amadeo|first = Fabrice|accessdate = November 8, 2011|newspaper = Le Figaro|language = fr}} |
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</ref> |
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While the prosecution argued the school was aware Moulinas was charged for rape, the school said they weren't knowing why he had legal problem; however his father said he alluded his son was under investigation for a sexual offense.<ref name=":3" /> |
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The school was facing financial difficulties and problems of attractivity. |
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The fact that, out of the two [[psychologists]] having examinated him, the first was a women from [[Lithuania]] who had problem with speaking French and the second had not the necesary titles to exerce was also pointed and critized by the prosecution at the trial. |
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== Mathieu Moulinas == |
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| name = Mathieu Moulinas |
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| nationality =French |
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| occupation =Student |
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| criminal_charge =Against:</br> |
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* '''Salomé F. :''' Rape</br> |
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* '''Agnès Marin :''' Rape, premeditated murder</br> |
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| penalty =Life |
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| conviction_status =Appealed |
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| spouse = <!--Do not include spouse unless notable or they are relevant to the crime.--> |
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| parents = Dominique Moulinas (father)</br> |
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| victims = 1 (Agnès Marin) |
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| country = France |
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| states = Gers, Haute-Loire |
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On August 2, 2010, in the Gers, Moulinas lured Salomé F., 16, in the forest in the pretense to give €10 he owed her. Once there he proceded to bind her then raped her with a dildo he stole to his parents<ref name=":1" /><ref name=":2" /><ref name=":4">{{Cite news|title = Meurtre d'Agnès : qui est Matthieu, son meurtrier présumé ?|date = December 10, 2011|url = http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/societe/20111208.OBS6293/meurtre-d-agnes-qui-est-matthieu-son-meurtrier-presume.html|first = Isabelle|last = Monnin|work = [[Le Nouvel Observateur]]|accessdate = November 7, 2013|location = France|language = fr|trans_title = Agnès murder : who is Mathieu, her presumed murderer?}}</ref>; he was then sent to [[remand]] for four months in the Pontet Prison, near Avignon. |
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He was then examinated by a therapist, who has certified him as "redeemable"; the judge freed him under stipulations he had to undertake a therapy for his psychlogical problems and his drug consommation, go to school and leave the [[Gers]].<ref name=":4" /> |
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Out of seventeen schools the Moulinas requested, only one, the ''Cèvenol'' school, accepted Matthieu in ''Première''.<ref group="Note">Equivalent for the [[French educational system]] in the Year 11 ([[United Kingdom|U.K.]]) and Junior year (U.S.)</ref><ref name=":4" /> |
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Once there, he proceded to have in-run with the school authorities, including having a [[gothic]] style, bad marks, publicly kissing and [[petting]] his [[Tahiti|Tahitian]] [[girlfriend]]<ref>{{Cite news|title = Agnès : le comportement de Mathieu choquait les élèves|date = November 23, 2011|url = http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2011/11/23/01016-20111123ARTFIG00397-agnes-le-comportement-de-matthieu-choquait-les-eleves.php|first = Marie-Estelle|last = Pech|work = Le Figaro|accessdate = November 9, 2013|language = fr}} |
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</ref> or going buy [[tobacco]]; they were existing rumors about how he viewed pronographic movies at breakfast or was walking while holding his girlfriend with a [[leash]].<ref name=":4" /> |
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Such behaviour leaded him to be nearly expelled when the teachers learned he serarched for "pedo sex" on the Net in the school computers, until the father interviened and promised Matthieu would behave better, and he just had to repeat his year; none of these events was transmitted to the court -apart for the buying of tobacco- until Agnès's murder. |
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The second year he seemed to have bettered himseld, having better marks and behaviour and having abandonated his gothic look, until Agnès's murder. |
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At his trial before the ''[[Cour d'assises|Cour d'assises des mineurs]]''<ref group="Note">Court for juvenile offenders commiting ''crimes'' (offences punished by at least 10 years in prison)</ref>, which beginned on June 18, 2013 and was held ''[[in camera]]'' for the most part at the request of Salomé F. even though the Marins wanted otherwise and where Mathieu recognized his guilt, the prosecutor critized the numerous failings of the instututions and asked the jury to not determine the killer deserved to have the benefit of minority<ref group="Note">The ''excuse de minorité'' (see {{fr}}[[:fr:Justice des mineurs en France|Justice des mineurs en France]]) in French law means the maximum of the sentence for a minor is divided by two and such maximum is reduced to 20 years for the life-eligible crimes.</ref>, asked for a 30 years sentence and [[civil commitment]], taking account the fact the killer has signs of mental problems<ref>{{Cite news|title = Haute-Loire - Meurtre d'Agnès : "Un crime exceptionnel, avec un accusé exceptionnel"|date = June 28, 2013|url = http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/meurtre-d-agnes-30-ans-de-reclusion-criminelle-requis-contre-matthieu-28-06-2013-1686928_23.php|last = Colonna d'Istria|first = Geneviève|newspaper = [[Le Point]]|accessdate = November 8, 2013|language = fr}} |
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</ref>; observators described him as cold and bored when the pictures of the autopsy has been showed. |
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On June 28, 2013, the killer was sentenced to [[life inprisonment]], a sentence which had not been meted against a juvenile since [[Patrick Dils]] in 1989 (who was subsequently exonerated in 2002.)<ref>{{Cite news|title = French minor given life sentence over rape of 13 year old girl|date = June 30, 2013|url = http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/20130630-french-minor-given-life-sentence-over-rape-13-year-old-girl|newspaper = Radio France Internationnal|accessdate = November 1, 2013|type = radio|department = Europe}}</ref> |
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On 29, he and his [[Lawyer|lawyers]] [[Appeal|appealed]] the sentence.<ref>{{Cite news|title = Meurtre d'Agnès Marin: les avocates de Matthieu font appel|date = June 29, 2013|url = http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2013/06/29/meurtre-d-agnes-marin-les-avocates-de-matthieu-font-appel_914662|last = |first = |newspaper = [[Libération]]|agency = [[Agence France-Presse]]||accessdate = November 9, 2013|language = fr}}</ref> |
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== See also == |
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=== Internal === |
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* [[Trial as an adult]] |
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* [[Recidivism]] |
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=== External === |
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== Notes and references == |
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=== Notes === |
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<references group="Note" /> |
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=== References === |
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{{reflist}} |
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[[:Category:French prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment]] |
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[[:Category:French rapists]] |
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[[:Category:People convicted of rape]] |
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[[:Category:Prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment by France]] |
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[[:Category:People convicted of murder by France]] |
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[[:Category:French people convicted of murder]] |
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[[:Category:French murderers of children]] |
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[[:Category:Murder committed by minors]] |
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I want to submit this article about Agnès Marin murder for review: [[User:Jean_Po/sandbox]] ([[User:Jean_Po/sandbox 1]]) |
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[[User:Jean Po|Jean Po]] ([[User talk:Jean Po|talk]]) 19:34, 9 November 2013 (UTC) |
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