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== Article creation == |
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"do not create an article until it is officially unveiled" |
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Why not? If this is Wikipedia policy, there are lots of articles to delete, here for example: [[The Marshall Mathers LP 2]]. If it's not, why is it being asserted?[[Special:Contributions/83.206.139.99|83.206.139.99]] ([[User talk:83.206.139.99|talk]]) 12:59, 18 October 2013 (UTC) |
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:Please read [[WP:CRYSTAL]]. Though, part of me thinks I might start it now, given that Google has now accidentally revealed it. <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#8f5902">[[User:ViperSnake151|ViperSnake151]]</font> [[User_talk:ViperSnake151|<font style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </font>]] </span> 18:07, 18 October 2013 (UTC) |
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== LTE == |
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The Nexus 5 is NOT the first Nexus phone to officially support LTE. The CDMA version of the Galaxy Nexus was an LTE phone. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bjacks12|Bjacks12]] ([[User talk:Bjacks12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bjacks12|contribs]]) 22:35, 31 October 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Lead == |
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For those wondering why I had a little edit war over the lead, I was ''trying'' to make it more consistant with other articles I've worked on lately (i.e. [[HTC One]] and [[HTC Dream]], both got to GA with my help). <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#8f5902">[[User:ViperSnake151|ViperSnake151]]</font> [[User_talk:ViperSnake151|<font style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </font>]] </span> 05:23, 3 November 2013 (UTC) |
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== Mention of US carriers == |
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For the second time, I removed the mention of the phone being offered by Sprint and T-Mobile. If what you want is to reflect the fact that it will be available outside of the Play Store, I'm OK with it and I added a sentence to that end, but we'll need a source for it. Again, mentioning which US carriers will offer it is largely irrelevant. Also, you calling it a "crucial detail" that it will be available outside of the Play Store I think is pretty ludicrous. Never ever has been a Nexus device offered via the Play Store only, so I don't see why anyone would believe this would be a first. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 05:33, 6 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:Mentioning of major carriers has been common practice on all smartphone articles. So the fact that its a Nexus device means that Google gets all the credit, ''and'' we cannot mention any other carrier who has it because Play Store trumps all? <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#8f5902">[[User:ViperSnake151|ViperSnake151]]</font> [[User_talk:ViperSnake151|<font style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </font>]] </span> 15:14, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::Firstly, Wikipedia is not a buyer's guide. Just like prices, information on who sells the device is not encyclopedic. That said, Play Store information is only there because it's the first place where the device becomes available, and furthermore, it's where Google itself offers it, so the relevance is two-fold. The United States (what you call "America"), is just another country. To 96% of the world population, information about US carriers is absolutely meaningless. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 17:06, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::: I tried removing the launch carriers from [[HTC One]] under this reasoning, but got told that [[WP:NOTCATALOG]] only applies if it is actually ''written'' like a catalog. <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#8f5902">[[User:ViperSnake151|ViperSnake151]]</font> [[User_talk:ViperSnake151|<font style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </font>]] </span> 22:23, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::: Let's keep in mind that this is the English Wikipedia, so the list of US carriers is meaningless to much less than 96% of the world's population. -- [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 20:24, 8 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::::I guess you may have been trying to say that it's meaningless to less than 96% '''of this Wikipedia's audience'''. The US-to-world population ratio is undeniable. That said, you should take into account that the target of the English Wikipedia isn't only native English speakers. I'd dare to say native English speakers aren't even the majority. You, being Serbian, should know. I am a Spanish speaker myself and would never consider editing any Wikipedia besides the English one. About the carrier stuff, I'll try to raise the topic in the guideline's talk page. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 21:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Here, I started [[Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Relevance_of_US_carriers_distributing_a_certain_mobile_phone|this]]. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 21:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:::::On second thought, that makes more sense... I also have zero intentions to edit the Serbian Wikipedia — in fact, I don't even know whether it exists at all. :) Ideally, every article would have exactly the same common content in all languages, with additional region-specific details, but that's a pipe dream. Let's hope there will be some kind of an official guideline. -- [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 21:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC) |
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== Too many edits (separated from previous discussion)== |
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As a side note, why did you need ''nine'' edits for these five sentences? -- [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 17:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:I just tend to do that. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 18:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:: This is totally off-topic, but that — in combination with empty edit comments — clogs the history and makes it quite unusable. IIRC, there's a Wikipedia rule suggesting against such an approach. -- [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 18:29, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:::If there is such a thing, if it -suggests- against it, I guess it's a guideline and not a rule. In any case, I don't think the harm in it is any bigger than bringing up a totally off-topic subject into an existing conversation. Nobody's perfect. That's life. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 20:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Yeah, you're right, life is far from being perfect. Once again, sorry for the off-topic stuff. Regarding the rule/suggestion I mentioned, I don't seem to be able to find it again, so it's probably related to something else. -- [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 20:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:::::No worries. Cheers! --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 21:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC) |
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== Critical Reception == |
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Guys, someone plz add d section of critical reception..!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/59.94.57.222|59.94.57.222]] ([[User talk:59.94.57.222|talk]]) 08:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Can the battery be changed for a larger battery like the Samsung Galaxy Nexus? == |
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Can the battery be changed for a larger battery like the Samsung Galaxy Nexus? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/204.117.11.111|204.117.11.111]] ([[User talk:204.117.11.111|talk]]) 22:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: Galaxy Nexus has a removable battery, while the battery in Nexus 5 is not a user-serviceable part. So, I doubt someone will be making a battery with a larger capacity. -- [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 22:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:: While your good intention in replying is commendable, you should also give out a notice that Wikipedia is not the place to discuss such thing. In fact, the only discussion allowed here is that aimed at improving the article. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 22:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::: Thank you for pointing that out, this is not a forum. Well, I forgot that for a moment, will keep it in mind for the future. -- [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 22:53, 14 November 2013 (UTC) |
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== Why is there an Issues header? == |
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I've never seen that on any other phone, and it does not seem unbiased. [[User:Sturmen|Sturmen]] ([[User talk:Sturmen|talk]]) 22:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:I agree. Haters gonna hate. That stuff could eventually be incorporated into a release section, but as it is, it has no NPV. --[[User:UKER|uKER]] ([[User talk:UKER|talk]]) 22:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:: Initially, one or two issues were listed under the "Hardware" section. Though, those issues weren't related strictly to the phone's hardware, so a new section was forked. I just went ahead and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nexus_5&diff=583450427&oldid=583435536 edited] the article, looking better now? — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 22:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC) |
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:If other phones do not have an issues section may be because they are not so buggy or because the issues section was not added. You can help Wikipedia by adding them. |
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:It does not makes sense to move the issues section inside the release section. The issues are not still fixed a month after the release. I am going to move them back to their own section if no one disagrees. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.166.46|2.137.166.46]] ([[User talk:2.137.166.46|talk]]) 10:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:: You're right. On second thought, incorporating "Known issues" section into the "Release" section wasn't such a great deal, went ahead and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nexus_5&diff=583786454&oldid=583769722 restored] the previous article layout. — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 13:47, 29 November 2013 (UTC) |
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I don't think a bug report is a good reference. Who decides which of the thousands of bugs are listed here? "Base articles on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] --[[User:Pmsyyz|Pmsyyz]] ([[User talk:Pmsyyz|talk]]) 22:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC) |
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: The decisions are made by the people editing this article, just as for everything else here on Wikipedia. — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]]) 23:47, 15 January 2014 (UTC) |
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I boldly removed the whole section. They are all sourced to forums and blogs. Find reputable sources that discuss problems with the phone, and they can be incorporated elsewhere. <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#8f5902">[[User:ViperSnake151|ViperSnake151]]</font> [[User_talk:ViperSnake151|<font style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </font>]] </span> 15:06, 22 August 2014 (UTC) |
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: Despite the fact this section was semi-usable, deleting it should be fine at least because no other smartphone article I've read so far had something like that. — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Dsimic|contribs]]) 21:31, 22 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:: This section not being available on every article on Wikipedia does not prevent it from being in this one. Please, help improve Wikipedia by adding content like this section to every article that makes sense instead of removing it. Please, allow having a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]]. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.49.244.160|83.49.244.160]] ([[User talk:83.49.244.160|talk]]) 13:50, 1 September 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Semi-protection explanation == |
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While I have made 15+ edits to this article and should not protect it because of my work here, the recent batch of IP vandalism has been particularly nasty. Given that they've started to sock, I've semi-protected the page for three days. If anyone objects to this protection, I shall reverse myself. Thanks. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 19:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2014 == |
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{{Edit semi-protected|<!-- Page to be edited -->|answered=yes}} |
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In the "Release" section it states something about revisions. It is true a revision has been made since the first model. I want to add a short sentence telling the batch numbers only refer to the date the phone was manufactured. So a phone with batch number 401k isn't necessarily different from a 312k model, only newer. The 310k models are the first version and indeed have some flaws. |
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[[User:J0bb13|J0bb13]] ([[User talk:J0bb13|talk]]) 11:12, 30 January 2014 (UTC) |
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: Hello there! Could you, please, provide an exact sentence you'd like to be added? Also, are there any references for this? — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Dsimic|contribs]]) 19:24, 30 January 2014 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Note:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The page is no longer protected. --'''[[User talk:ElHef|<font color="red">El</font><font color="orange">Hef</font>]]''' <small>([[Special:Contributions/ElHef|<font color="black">Meep?</font>]])</small> 03:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC) |
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== Removal of the known issues section == |
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Why are you removing a section that has valid references? References to these news sources are already used in the page. We need coherency in Wikipedia. Please, check the whole page, not just the section you are interested in hiding. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.144.213.54|79.144.213.54]] ([[User talk:79.144.213.54|talk]]) 13:35, 29 August 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: Just as a note, please see the [[#Why is there an Issues header?|section above]]. — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Dsimic|contribs]]) 19:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC) |
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NFC (Android Beam) |
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Include text to the hardware section that says the Nexus 5 has NFC, Near Field Communication which allows you to use the device with services such as Google Wallet. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Neofreeyourmind|Neofreeyourmind]] ([[User talk:Neofreeyourmind|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Neofreeyourmind|contribs]]) 21:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Remove the last known issue? == |
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The remaining known issue seems to be something that would not usually affect the consumer experience due to how uncommon it is for normal users to download large files. Would it be fit to remove this issue, or is this issue bigger than it originally seems? [[User:MonsieurPoulet|MonsieurPoulet]] ([[User talk:MonsieurPoulet|talk]]) 20:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== About Nexus 5 and New Nexus 7 relation == |
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The two devices are related,you can see the design language of the New Nexus 7 in the Nexus 5,same like the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.244.31.96|99.244.31.96]] ([[User talk:99.244.31.96|talk]]) 20:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: A design language in the sense of what their bodies look like? {{Diff|Nexus 5|677520514|676965609|That}} makes no sense whatsoever, only the similarities in the underlying hardware platforms would make sense; that's why the LG G2 and Nexus 5 are related. — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Dsimic|contribs]]) 20:56, 23 August 2015 (UTC) |
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:I'd go related as in either hardware relation, or how soon they were released. Weren't they unveiled at the same time? <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#8f5902">[[User:ViperSnake151|ViperSnake151]]</font> [[User_talk:ViperSnake151|<font style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </font>]] </span> 03:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC) |
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:: Establishing a relationship that way would make sense. — [[User:Dsimic|Dsimic]] ([[User talk:Dsimic#nobold|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Dsimic|contribs]]) 03:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC) |
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== Mods and OSes removed == |
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I added here information about other operating systems for the Nexus 5 - this was removed saying "WP doesnt cover mods you can do to your phone on the phone pages". Where has WP decided not to cover mods? Is [[User:Galatz]] aware of the difference between an Android mod and an OS? --[[User:Bernd.Brincken|Bernd.Brincken]] ([[User talk:Bernd.Brincken|talk]]) 16:43, 23 January 2018 (UTC) |
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:Why would what someone chooses to do with their phone be included? Should we also include information on what apps people with the phone enjoy using? I suggest you read through [[WP:NOTEVERYTHING]]. Just because its true and you have a ref doesn't mean we should include it here. - '''''[[User:Galatz|<span style="color: #000080">Galatz</span>]][[User_talk:Galatz|<span style="color: #FF0000"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]''''' 21:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC) |
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::Because the option to choose another OS is only available for a handfull of devices, out of several thousand android devices on the market. If there is a unique feature, we mention it, like today in 'News' on the WP homepage: "Rocket Lab's [[Electron (rocket)|Electron]] becomes the first rocket to reach orbit using an electric pump-fed engine." --[[User:Bernd.Brincken|Bernd.Brincken]] ([[User talk:Bernd.Brincken|talk]]) 21:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC) |
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