User talk:Scipio3000

ANTI-ITALIANISM

is a hostility toward Italian people and Italian culture. It uses crude or unfair stereotypes about Italian people, a popular one being that most Italians are unnaturally violent, or somehow associated with the Mafia. Aside from the bigotry inherent in this idea, it is also statistically improbable. Like most racist and biased sentiments, anti-Italianism often uses discrimination, prejudice, and even violence. Sociologically speaking, the largest common denominator among anti-Italians is ignorance and parochialism, a relative lack of exposure to other cultures and ways of life. American ethnocentric attitudes and "nativism"—a form of racially-rooted chauvinism have often contributed greatly to this kind of prejudice. GERMAN-AMERICAN and IRISH-AMERICAN groups have often been mentioned as particularly virulent in their animosity toward Italians

Violence against Italians

In the United States, Italian immigrants were subject to EXTREME prejudice, racism, and, in many cases, violence. During the 1800s and early 20th Century, Italian Americans, being seen as non-anglo and oftentimes non-white, were the second most likely group to be lynched. One of the largest mass lynchings in American history involved the lynching of eleven Italians in the city of New Orleans.'' The Italians, who were thought to have assassinated police chief David Hennessey, were placed in a jail cell before being brutally murdered by a mob, with witnesses claiming that the cheers "were nearly deafening." Reporting on the incident, one newspaper reported "The little jail was crowded with Sicilians, whose low, receding foreheads, dark skin, repulsive countenances and slovenly attire proclaimed their brutal nature."

In fact, in many areas of the South, Italians were "semisegregated." In the 1920s, two Italian anarchists, Sacco and Vanzetti, experienced prejudice and ultimately death due to their Italian ancestry and extreme political views. Though not lynched, Sacco and Vanzetti were subject to a mishandled trial, and many historians agree that the judge, jury, and prosecution were extremely biased against the Italian immigrants. Sacco and Vanzetti were eventually put to death, convicted of a murder despite the lack of evidence against them.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!

1)No one stepped in to help solve this dispute after several admin. were notified and I begged you to help and I was ignored!!

2)The person changing my passages had no prior interest or contributions to any Italian section until his vendetta with me...I begged for admin. to look at this and they refused and told me I deserve no protection

3) I am told that anyone can make changes to Italian articles, yet no one can touch anyother ethnic groups without knowledge or factual material and references. So why aren't Italians protected...hmmm I wonder??

4) I am being accused of copyright violation, when I told the other 2 Sicilians working on this it was not finished and I only wanted to show them a format. On sunday I worked on this until 6 in the morning and spent all day yesterday...I feel asleep before I could finish(and left a note to the two others woking on this...I am not done, WIP, let me know what you think?) So why are we not afforded the right to work on this as we want?? Everyone else is allowed too?? So why can't we??? I wonder...

5)I am told we must work as a group and consult others before we make changes yet...Edward321 is allowed to so without our consultation...why is he protected from all the rules I am not protected from...hmmm, I wonder???(Scipio3000 18:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC))

Sicilianist

I am permanently blocked for using the term, "White Boy", So here is what I would like to see done one day:

(1)I think you should add the section of discrimination against Sicilian-Americans in the article of "Sicily" I think it is time we start making the public aware of the deep hatred for Sicilians and Italians...This is the only way people will know of our plight.

(2)Fixed the Cuisine section...can you speak Italian, if so you could translate, this link and add it mouth-watering article and try to add wine and olive oil.

(3)Music and Demographics

Check out the Sicilian page on the WikiItalia page it is set up waaayyy better than ours maybe you can work with them or take material from them, I wish you the best of luck, I wish I could help you through this....You have to finish this up though...Good luck and God Speed!(Scipio3000 21:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC))

p.s.Thank you for your confidence and words, I will remeber them forever and I will saty proud and continue on....Remeber, "Sicily first, Italy second!!"(Scipio3000 21:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC))

Why Constantine is responsible for the spread of Christianity

I am going to give references to all the material that I am going to present. If you need more info. on the books or authors let me know. I only want to provide a honest straight narrative of the history of Europe. My point is that Constantine the Great and the Roman Empire were responsible for spreading Christianity to Europe in the 4th Century AD as opposed to the time Charlemagne was crowned by the Pope as the "Emperor of the Romans" in the 9th Century AD, which became the Holy Roman Empire and that became the Habsburg dynasty. If anyone disagrees with my explanation as why my revision should not remain, please let me know. We should come to an agreed consensus and I hope the referenced material I am going to provide proves this. I took nothing from any of the links from Wikipedia so I suggest you check these out too. I got everything from my books. I used 5 seperate books, if need be, I can provide more sources. I am kinda embarrassed but I don't remeber exactly the proper way to do historical references nor do I know the system of putting up references on Wikipedia, but I will do my best....

The year 306 AD Rome and Italy were much less vital to the empire than they had been in the days of Hannibal or Augustus, but the ancient seat of power still had sufficient mystique that possession of it made it of great moral value to its imperial possessor.(1) In the West, the struggle was Maxentius, who had seized Italy and North Africa, and Constantine, who had suceeded his father Constantius as Western Emperor. in 312 Constantine invaded Italy and defeated Maxentius at Turin and Verona.(2) Constantine himself needed a to unite and inspire his troops, with the very conception of legitimate succesion under Diocletian system. He found God, or God found him, in a vision of a cross across the sun, a phenomenon that does in fact naturally occur under proper atmospheric conditions. Having seen the amazing sight, Constantine later told a biographer of a dream in which the long persecuted Christians had shown him a 'rho'[P] crossed with a 'chi'[X] and commanded 'In hoc signo, vincere'(In this sign conquer). If for no other reason than their remarkable persistence in the face of extensive persecution, the Christians were a moral force in the empire, and the soldiers accepted the generals vision and painted their emblem upon their shields. Constantines army had victory and vision on their side.(3)

He defeated Maxentius at the Battle of Milvian Bridge and made Christianity the state religion, confiscating temple treasure and building many new churches. This left him undisputed ruler of the Western provinces.(4) In 313 at the Edict of Milan constantine granted the Christians toleration and almost immediately, with the emperors patronage, an impressive building programme of cathedrals and churches started in Italy. In a few years the enormous Basilicas of St. John Lateran and St. Peter were built in Rome. Christian bishops were allowed to give Roman citizenship to slaves, and conduct their own law courts. A new heirarchy and a new kind of authority had come to Italy.(5)

At the Edict of Milan, Constantine iniated the Christianization of the Roman Empire. The conversion of parts of the Roman elite and promulagation of Christianity by Roman administrators set Europe on paths towards conversion, but fairly quickly the Church gathered its own momentum. charismatic individuals, some isolated holy men and women, others popular bishops and clergy, held great sway over local populations, while shrines devoted their lives to spiritual salvation achieved renown across Europe. Impressive ecclestical practices, such as cathedrals and monasteries, based upon traditional Roman imperial structures, began to replace these on the nascent urban landscapes across the continent.(6)

In 316 Constantine felt strong enough to attack his rival Licinius seizing Greece and the Balkans. The ensuing truce lasted until 324, when Constantine finally defeated Licinius; his victory reunited the Roman Empire. He also took personal interest in theology, participating in church councils at Arles in 314 and Nicaea in 325, and baptised on his deathbed in 337.(7) At Nicaea he presided over the first ecunenical council, representing the whole church, which defined beliefs for all Christians. A full ecclesiatical organization developed, with a heirarchy of bishops and a framework of patriarchates, provinces and dioceses throughout the empire.(8)

The two halves of the Roman Empire remained linked for half a century after the reigns of Diocletian and Constantine. Only in 395 AD, with the bitter death of Theodosius, did the complete break occure(9)

So based on that information, without Constantine and the incredible sway he had over the population and the networks and well connected logistics and roads of the Roman Empire allowed Christianity to spread rapidly and uniformly. At this time the Roman Empire was from Europe(England, France to the Rhine, Belgium, Swiss, [[Austria}], Spain, Italy, The Balkans, Greece, the Near East and North Africa). This is the majority of the known world at this time and without Constantine church councils, massive religious reforms, tolerance and promotion of christianity and the Roman empires connected and integrated society and logistics this would have never been possible, and Christianity may never had the chance to grow as it did. Nonetheless, it was constantine who gave Christianity its acceptance to the empire, its freedom to develop, the money and donations provided by the emperor for it to prosper, and its greatest push to a incredibly large, homogenious(culture-wise) society. If their is any disagreement with what I am saying please let me know. But please bring references and factual material, as that is the only thing that will suffice. Thanks for reading

1)M. Spilling(editor), "Battles of the Ancient World."(Barnes & Noble, Inc, 2007)*

2)C. Scarre, "The Penguin historical Atlas of Ancient Rome."(Penguin books, 1995)

3)M. Spilling(editor), "Battles of the Ancient World."(Barnes & Noble, Inc, 2007

4)C. Scarre, "The Penguin historical Atlas of Ancient Rome."(Penguin books, 1995)

5)H. Hearder, "Italy:A short history."(Cambridge University press, 1990)

6)A. Jotischky & C. Hull, "The Penguin Historical Guide of the MEdieval World."(Penguin books, 2005)

7)C. Scarre, "The Penguin historical Atlas of Ancient Rome."(Penguin books, 1995)

8)G.Parker(ed.), "The Compact hsitory of the world."(Times books, 1995)

9)H. Hearder, "Italy:A short history."(Cambridge University press, 1990)

• Books has 5 different authors if you need me to name them let me know.

On my article, Sicily

I feel that what Wikipedia is for and it's objective is to give people a good understanding and overview of a subject. I go on here to get the general idea of something and if I am interested there are links or references to find more information. But several articles on here are sloppy or not structured properly and I feel this to be the case with this article.

I want to give the general person a factual, informative introduction to Sicily and provide links if a certain time period interests them. But I want them to be able to go through each section and briefly get the general idea of each period in the long, fairly complicated and rich history of Sicily.

Question to Scipio

In my attempts to help, I think there is one piece of information that I'm missing which you can easily help me with. Now I can't stress this enough - I'm not asking for why you think you are right, I'm just asking a "what happened". What happened between you and Edward321 and JodyB? Please keep the response as short as possible...i just need the bare bones at this stage. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  18:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

collapsing

Okay: A week ago I deleted 4 sections and combined them into one, and in one of those sections was one sentence on Jews. So he thinks I am Anti-Semitic because of this and has a personal vendetta on me And because of him spreading this every admin. refuses to help me: 1)Continually stalks me and connives with other users to discredit and demean me. He has reported me and tells on me for everything I do or say or think, and has a list a mile long. 2)He only changes the exact sentences or sections I work on...and usually about a minute or two after I am done. Also he reworded citated sentences I had and yet he gets in no trouble for this. 3)refuses to work out our differences and instead is constantly watching what I do and instantly telling on me for it and goes way out of his way to do this. 4)has never contributed to an Italian article or Sicilian until his vendetta with me 5)Is not held to the same threats and criteria I am, such as he is allowed to make changes without consulting me. 6)Baits me and then acts so coy and innocent. JODYB..knows of these problems and told me to come to him if I have a problem instead, 1)told me I deserve no protection. 2)Never checks to see if Edward321 may be wrong 3)When I did report that Edward321 was messing with me, he yelled at me and threatened me with blocks. 4)Is cooperating with Edward321 to get me in trouble. 5)Refuses to help me solve my dispute with Edward321, saying Edward321 is innocent and Refuses to allow other admin. to help me or even listen to my complaint. If Edward321 was not stalking me and scrutinizing every move I make, noone would have seen that there was a copyright problem and I could have continue to work on it this morning and fix this. It's not like I left it their for days...It was from last night until this morning...that is what I mean by his scrutiny...And unfair treatment from admin. This was in good faith I only made the section late last night! I am human and I fatigued, I have spent a lot of energy on here working on that and fighting with all these people! That is my point, everything I do there is Edward321 changing my work. This is BLATANTLY OBVIOUS! And yet everyone gangs up on me...without even checking what Edward321 is doing.(Scipio3000 18:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC))

A possibly helpful suggestion

Why not translate this nice mouth-watering article in italian on Sicilian cuisine and gastronomy from the italian Sicily WP page into english for the english Sicily WP page? --Mathsci 18:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

My user page

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER edit my user page. --Mathsci 21:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

What in the HOLY GOD'S name are you talking about MY MAN??? I am Blocked!! All I did today was undo a revision and then I was blocked ..so what the hell are you talking about??? Damn it man I am sick of all you people acting so damn righteous and brave behind your safe computer!! I demand to know what the f**k your talking about BOY??(Scipio3000 21:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC))

Please don't overreact. As you might have surmised. I have been trying to help you. As the Delphic oracle said, μηδεν 'αγαν - nothing in excess. --Mathsci 21:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that was yesterday.--Atlan (talk) 21:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

So Atlan no apology??? No that would take a real man, something your not!!!(Scipio3000 21:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC))

I'll take that as a no.--Atlan (talk) 21:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

That is because you are a smug, arrogant, jerk-face, spoiled brat who thinks mommy and daddy will help you with everything and because your white and have money you can do what you want. Grow up and besides Atlan, You don't know me, so save your ethnocentrism and racism and hatred for someone else.

All of you are a bunch of 5 year olds, going around tattle-telling like a bunch of cowards and conniving backstabbers, you all make me sick! What ever happened to talking things through like MEN?? Nowadays everyone is a bunch of arrogant, spoiled babies going around pointing fingers and telling on each other, so get lost you stalker, Atlan,you, Edward321, and JodyB are a bunch of sniveling, babies, spoiled brat, coward, rat-faced, bigots, who has never faced an onstacle in your life...Atlan the worst thing that has every happened to was someone On Myspace didn;t add you as a friend..so get lost you dickhead!(Scipio3000 21:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC))

Mathsci

what are you talking about racism?? Please tell me where I had racism on your page? If you make a statement like that please back it up!! Do you people even know what racism is....Italian Americans, being seen as non-anglo and oftentimes non-white, were the second most likely group to be lynched. One of the largest mass lynchings in American history involved the lynching of eleven Italians in the city of New Orleans. In fact, in many areas of the South, Italians were "semisegregated." ...so because I said this...there is alot that can be learned from the past and I wish more Americans knew the history of Rome better as one day we may be heading in that direction, take care..I am a racist, I want an expalnation before you say this about me!! I'm sick of all you people!!(Scipio3000 21:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC))