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Talk page discussion

Are you reading all of my responses, Douglas? I agree with you on removing "alleged" from the description of the word murder, and I'm working on getting the references to news media sources in line. I would appreciate your help, and understand your frustration with our sometimes overly-intricate processes, but want to make this a productive discussion, not a source of resentment for you. Feel free to reply here or on the article talk page, I will check back. -- nae'blis 15:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom murder and incivility

I'm concerned about the tone of both of your recent comments on this article seen here and here. Comments like that don't help, and actually make your position much weaker. This is a collaborative project, and for you to succeed here you're going to have to work with people who have very different views than you do. Insults and attacks are only going to get you blocked. Take a look at Wikipedia's civility guidelines and policy on no personal attacks. Finally you should read about what wikipedia isn't, especially the section about Wikipedia not being a battleground. I hope you take this advice in the good spirit and faith it was offered in, and I look forward to working with you in the future. AniMate 16:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking over your contributions again, I see you feel ganged up on and that Dhartung and nae'blis are overstepping their "authority" (for lack of a better word). If you have complaints to raise, you should head here. This is one of the Administrators noticeboards, and this or one of the other boards is generally the place to go if you're having problems. Also take a look here for the dispute resolution process. Peace. AniMate 16:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Shoessss 04:07, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday I posted a couple responses on the Channon Christian Christopher Newsom discussion page. Another user pointed out to me that my postings might be considered uncivil, and after consideration I decided that they were not contributing to the dialogue, so I removed only my comments on the discussion page.

I removed only my own comments, NOT page content.

I think that you have too much time on your hands, if a user removes his own ill considered comments from a discussion board, and it gets you so twisted up that you feel compelled to threaten that person with having them blocked.

Who is your Wiki-boss? I want to file a complaint about your conduct.--Douglasfgrego 13:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Douglasfgrego removing content, which contain warnings – advise – and other material, even from your own discussion page can be considered vandalism. All editors and administrators first look to the discussion page of an individual to see past history. Both good and bad. That is way it is important not to delete material with out a justifiable reason. Regarding my boss, I guess that would be everyone, including you! If you notice at the top of my User page I have a link especially for comment on my edits. Once again, both good and bad. I believe the open sentence states; “…..A review page for any and all comments on my editing. Please feel free to be candid in your remarks. Like all things in life…..I’m just a moving towards perfection…..not quite there yet. Hope this helps if you need any help addressing any of these issues please feel free to contact me or if you are more comfortable dealing with another individual please feel free to contact an administrator at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism. Once again, hope this help's.Shoessss 13:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shoessss, this raises additional questions:

1) What is the Wikipedia definition of Vandalism?

2) Why would one user attempt to have another user blocked for removing their own ill-considered remarks on a discussion page?

What's your motivation here Shoesssss? Why are you threatening to have me blocked from Wikipedia for removing my own comments? They didn't contain warnings or advise. You wouldn't be threatening such drastic action unless there was more to this. If removing my own comments had a detrimental effect on the page content, then I can see someone getting in touch and saying "Hey, dude, that's not cool". But my alterations had NO effect on the content, and you rolled up and threatened to have me blocked. It's the exact same thing as if I jaywalked, at 3 am, out in on some country road where there's no traffic, and Shoessss the cop pulls up and threatens to arrest me.

And don't give me the regular standard "You violated Wikipedia policy" BS line. If that's all it is, then this is an uncommon level of anal-retention. You are overstepping your bounds, and your boss needs to get you under control.--Douglasfgrego 14:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do not know what to tell you Douglasfgrego guidelines are guidelines. I may not necessarily always agree with them, but when I’m editing here I follow the guideline set-up by Wikipedia. If and when I am at another function or job, I follow the guideline as established for that particular situation or function. All I can tell you is everyone is got to do what they got to do. Shoessss 14:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I got to give you credit, you gave me the first chuckle of the day. Thanks for that. Shoessss 14:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Advise" instead of "advice"; "help's" instead of "helps", all from Shoesss' user page.

Thanks, Shoessss. You gave ME my first laugh of the day! (It is true ANYONE can be a WP editor, isn't it?)Simplemines 15:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas, just a quick FYI: Shoesss apparently has some kind of bot program which he uses to annoy people he disagrees with. Just ignore it. It's what one does when one can't argue facts (or spell very well.) :) Simplemines 15:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shoesss is mistaken in this case, Douglas. You were perfectly within your rights to remove your own comments, and I appreciate you working toward more constructive dialogue. Thank you for being so patient and understanding. -- nae'blis 16:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doug, just an FYI: You might want to check out Shoess' user discussion page. He's pals with just about everybody; isn't that special? Here is the link to that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shoessss#Mediation_will_be_rejected I find it fascinating how folks with the biggest issues with this article are so blatant about their personal biases. All that does is make me all the more wary of any "contributions" they may have. It sure smells like a set-up. Beware. Simplemines 03:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Brian sterner

I have nominated Brian sterner, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian sterner. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Carom (talk) 20:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Brian sterner

A tag has been placed on Brian sterner requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 20:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Brian Sterner.jpg

Image Copyright problem

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Image copyright problem with Image:Brian sterner.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:Brian sterner.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 21:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, another busy-body, wanna-be wikipedia administrator with too much time on his hands. This afternoon, he's decided that his top priority is destroying my entry.

Thanks dude, now I have to spend all afternoon defending my entry from you. Don't you have anything better to do then to harass me with your wikipedia microscope?

Who the hell made you the boss of Wikipedia, and where the hell do you get off demanding that people get your approval for posting new entries? You don't own Wikipedia. You didn't start it. You don't have any authority other then the ability to flag other people's work.

Instead of trying to find ways to remove and destroy other peoples work, why don't try creating something original? Because you're a lazy SOB. It's much easier to criticize and critique and destroy then it is to create. --Douglasfgrego (talk) 22:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate images uploaded

Thanks for uploading Image:Brian sterner.jpg. A machine-controlled robot account noticed that you also uploaded the same image under the name Image:Brian Sterner.jpg. The copy called Image:Brian Sterner.jpg has been marked for speedy deletion since it is redundant. If this sounds okay to you, there is no need for you to take any action.

This is an automated message- you have not upset or annoyed anyone, and you do not need to respond. In the future, you may save yourself some confusion if you supply a meaningful file name and refer to 'my contributions' to remind yourself exactly which name you chose (file names are case sensitive, including the extension) so that you won't lose track of your uploads. For tips on good file naming, see Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions about this notice, or feel that the deletion is inappropriate, please contact User:Staecker, who operates the robot account. Staeckerbot (talk) 21:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

February 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian sterner. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. I am not relying on my own opinion at all, but rather on the notability guidelines asserted at WP:N and WP:BIO. Please do not continue to insult other users either, or you may end up banned. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 21:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User:Carom. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, I didn't insult anybody, everything I said on Carom's page goes double for you. He doesn't need you to stick up for him, he can do that for himself.

What's the matter Nancy, did I hurt your widdle (sniff, sniff), feewings? Awww, poor bay-bee!

Who the hell do you think you are to threaten to have me banned? Instead of using this time to expand the Brian Sterner article like I intended to, I've had to spend the last 2 hours deflecting attacks from you and your overzealous brethren.

There's nothing more annoying then a wanna-be wikipedia admin. Every new entry has to be debated constantly. Turn off your computer, and go do something. --Douglasfgrego (talk) 22:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. If this isn't an attack, I don't know what is. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is my discussion page, and I'll say whatever the fuck I want to here.

Yeah, to all you anal-retentive assholes out there, this is my discussion page. See that up there, it says User Talk: Douglasfgrego. That's me. And I'll say whatever the fuck I want to here on my page. If you don't like it, don't come in here. You can fuck off for all I care. --Douglasfgrego (talk) 22:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] Please [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|do not attack]] other editors{{#if:|, which you did here: [[:{{{1}}}]]}}. If you continue, you '''will''' be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-npa3 --> ''If [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Douglasfgrego&curid=10642070&diff=191938085&oldid=191937917 this] isn't an attack, I don't know what is.'' [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten&nbsp;Pound&nbsp;Hammer</span>]] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]]•[[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]])</sup> 22:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
+== This is my discussion page, and I'll say whatever the fuck I want to here. ==
+Yeah, to all you anal-retentive assholes out there, this is my discussion page. See that up there, it says User Talk: Douglasfgrego. That's me. And I'll say whatever the fuck I want to here on my page. If you don't like it, don't come in here. You can fuck off for all I care. --[[User:Douglasfgrego|Douglasfgrego]] ([[User talk:Douglasfgrego#top|talk]]) 22:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)