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Hiya. In the fall, you had a hand in addressing [[User:mathewignash]]'s problems with [[WP:NFC]]. I stumbled into some of his more recent image uploads, and for images since late March, he's listed an incorrect source -- and, I suspect, knowingly so. I tagged them and he's posted accurate sources for them, but a) probably there are other images from October to March I have marked and b) it's once again an "oops, my bad" claim. I find the whole thing/editor frustrating, so before I post something at ANI asking for broader input, I thought I'd ask you -- is having to review all of his image uploads worthwhile? Given their limited use and his ongoing problems with accurate sourcing, would it be better to stop him from uploading images at all? Am I too much of a stickler for NFC? Thanks. --[[User:EEMIV|EEMIV]] ([[User talk:EEMIV|talk]]) 22:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC) |
Hiya. In the fall, you had a hand in addressing [[User:mathewignash]]'s problems with [[WP:NFC]]. I stumbled into some of his more recent image uploads, and for images since late March, he's listed an incorrect source -- and, I suspect, knowingly so. I tagged them and he's posted accurate sources for them, but a) probably there are other images from October to March I have marked and b) it's once again an "oops, my bad" claim. I find the whole thing/editor frustrating, so before I post something at ANI asking for broader input, I thought I'd ask you -- is having to review all of his image uploads worthwhile? Given their limited use and his ongoing problems with accurate sourcing, would it be better to stop him from uploading images at all? Am I too much of a stickler for NFC? Thanks. --[[User:EEMIV|EEMIV]] ([[User talk:EEMIV|talk]]) 22:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Mathewignash was at one point last year under a restriction to ban him uploading images. This was later relaxed to free images only, which was in place for a while until it turned out that the images he was uploading were not actually free but rather an obscure class of non-free. Three separate ANI discussions took place but nobody could decide exactly how his images could be tagged and this irritated me immensely. Mathew came to me shortly after ([[User talk:Steel359/Archive 13#Toy copyright confusion|here]]) with a reasonable-sounding agreement and I remember, in my frustration and confusion with the ANI discussions, giving him the OK to that before walking away from images altogether.<br>That's basically the history. If he's slipping back into his old ways - your recent experiences with him are all too familliar - then perhaps reinstating his ban on uploading anything at all might be in order. I would support it since he's had every chance, opportunity and incentive to sort things out. – [[User:Steel|Steel]] 23:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC) |
:Mathewignash was at one point last year under a restriction to ban him uploading images. This was later relaxed to free images only, which was in place for a while until it turned out that the images he was uploading were not actually free but rather an obscure class of non-free. Three separate ANI discussions took place but nobody could decide exactly how his images could be tagged and this irritated me immensely. Mathew came to me shortly after ([[User talk:Steel359/Archive 13#Toy copyright confusion|here]]) with a reasonable-sounding agreement and I remember, in my frustration and confusion with the ANI discussions, giving him the OK to that before walking away from images altogether.<br>That's basically the history. If he's slipping back into his old ways - your recent experiences with him are all too familliar - then perhaps reinstating his ban on uploading anything at all might be in order. I would support it since he's had every chance, opportunity and incentive to sort things out. – [[User:Steel|Steel]] 23:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Just so you know, this isn't "slipping back into old ways". Mostly I just needed to be more specific about my source page. I would, for instance, just list www.transformers.com as the source, not the specific page within that web site, since www.transformers.com now redirects to various www.hasbro.com pages (like here<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jetstorm-movie.jpg</ref>). There were also a few I did get wrong, I'm fixing those (the box art came from a related site, which I'm now siting specifically). I've fixed every one he asked about, most were okay, but I needed to be more specific. I'll be looking for any others that I can improve on my own, but if you have any that don't look right, just post it to my talk page and I'll fix them. [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 23:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::I have honestly lost all the patience I once had for this. Given the sheer quantity of images you upload and the length of time you've been doing it, "post it to my talk page and I'll fix them" just doesn't cut it anymore. It's no-one else's problem but yours now: get it right or stop uploading. – [[User:Steel|Steel]] 00:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::No problem then. Like I said, every one he complained about is already fixed as soon as he pointed them out to me, and mostly it was just siting the specific URL they came from (not just the site). There is no need to make a major issue about it. I'll spend some time and look through all my backlogs and see if I can improve on any other old pictures I should have used a specific URL on. Thanks [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 00:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::Question for you. For instance this image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MIRAGEIMAGE.jpg was from the www.transformer.com web site a few year back, where I saved it, but they long since removed the picture and the page it was on. Do I still list www.transformers.com as a source or is that going to get me in trouble, since the picture isn't on that site any more? [[User:Mathewignash|Mathewignash]] ([[User talk:Mathewignash|talk]]) 00:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi, I just wrote an article Dan Kaminsky and saw that you had earlier deleted an article there under CSD A7. Two questions: 1) Are you ok with the new one? 2) Could you please take a look at the deleted difs and let me know if there was any material there worth incorporating into the new article? Thanks. JoshuaZ (talk) 00:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've sent you the deleted text via email, you'll be the better judge of usefulness. And yeah, your version is a big improvement on the last. – Steel 09:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
yo what up —Preceding unsigned comment added by Utyie (talk • contribs) 03:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hiya. In the fall, you had a hand in addressing User:mathewignash's problems with WP:NFC. I stumbled into some of his more recent image uploads, and for images since late March, he's listed an incorrect source -- and, I suspect, knowingly so. I tagged them and he's posted accurate sources for them, but a) probably there are other images from October to March I have marked and b) it's once again an "oops, my bad" claim. I find the whole thing/editor frustrating, so before I post something at ANI asking for broader input, I thought I'd ask you -- is having to review all of his image uploads worthwhile? Given their limited use and his ongoing problems with accurate sourcing, would it be better to stop him from uploading images at all? Am I too much of a stickler for NFC? Thanks. --EEMIV (talk) 22:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Mathewignash was at one point last year under a restriction to ban him uploading images. This was later relaxed to free images only, which was in place for a while until it turned out that the images he was uploading were not actually free but rather an obscure class of non-free. Three separate ANI discussions took place but nobody could decide exactly how his images could be tagged and this irritated me immensely. Mathew came to me shortly after (here) with a reasonable-sounding agreement and I remember, in my frustration and confusion with the ANI discussions, giving him the OK to that before walking away from images altogether.
That's basically the history. If he's slipping back into his old ways - your recent experiences with him are all too familliar - then perhaps reinstating his ban on uploading anything at all might be in order. I would support it since he's had every chance, opportunity and incentive to sort things out. – Steel 23:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)- Just so you know, this isn't "slipping back into old ways". Mostly I just needed to be more specific about my source page. I would, for instance, just list www.transformers.com as the source, not the specific page within that web site, since www.transformers.com now redirects to various www.hasbro.com pages (like here[1]). There were also a few I did get wrong, I'm fixing those (the box art came from a related site, which I'm now siting specifically). I've fixed every one he asked about, most were okay, but I needed to be more specific. I'll be looking for any others that I can improve on my own, but if you have any that don't look right, just post it to my talk page and I'll fix them. Mathewignash (talk) 23:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have honestly lost all the patience I once had for this. Given the sheer quantity of images you upload and the length of time you've been doing it, "post it to my talk page and I'll fix them" just doesn't cut it anymore. It's no-one else's problem but yours now: get it right or stop uploading. – Steel 00:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- No problem then. Like I said, every one he complained about is already fixed as soon as he pointed them out to me, and mostly it was just siting the specific URL they came from (not just the site). There is no need to make a major issue about it. I'll spend some time and look through all my backlogs and see if I can improve on any other old pictures I should have used a specific URL on. Thanks Mathewignash (talk) 00:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Question for you. For instance this image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MIRAGEIMAGE.jpg was from the www.transformer.com web site a few year back, where I saved it, but they long since removed the picture and the page it was on. Do I still list www.transformers.com as a source or is that going to get me in trouble, since the picture isn't on that site any more? Mathewignash (talk) 00:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- No problem then. Like I said, every one he complained about is already fixed as soon as he pointed them out to me, and mostly it was just siting the specific URL they came from (not just the site). There is no need to make a major issue about it. I'll spend some time and look through all my backlogs and see if I can improve on any other old pictures I should have used a specific URL on. Thanks Mathewignash (talk) 00:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have honestly lost all the patience I once had for this. Given the sheer quantity of images you upload and the length of time you've been doing it, "post it to my talk page and I'll fix them" just doesn't cut it anymore. It's no-one else's problem but yours now: get it right or stop uploading. – Steel 00:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just so you know, this isn't "slipping back into old ways". Mostly I just needed to be more specific about my source page. I would, for instance, just list www.transformers.com as the source, not the specific page within that web site, since www.transformers.com now redirects to various www.hasbro.com pages (like here[1]). There were also a few I did get wrong, I'm fixing those (the box art came from a related site, which I'm now siting specifically). I've fixed every one he asked about, most were okay, but I needed to be more specific. I'll be looking for any others that I can improve on my own, but if you have any that don't look right, just post it to my talk page and I'll fix them. Mathewignash (talk) 23:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
