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New sources - [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-relig_anonymous-scientologyjul25,0,980144.story From the shadows, Anonymous battles Scientology] and [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-relig_anonymous_box_25jul25,0,3799248.story Who's who in this face-off]. Will get on this soon. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 02:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC) |
New sources - [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-relig_anonymous-scientologyjul25,0,980144.story From the shadows, Anonymous battles Scientology] and [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-relig_anonymous_box_25jul25,0,3799248.story Who's who in this face-off]. Will get on this soon. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 02:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC) |
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Some more sources
- FI Staff (Fresh Intelligence) (March 4, 2008). "Xenuphobia: Latest Salvo Lobbed In 'Anonymous' War on Scientology". Radar Online. Radar Magazine. Retrieved 2008-03-05.
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(help) - Fabricatorian, Shant (March 5, 2008). "Scientology vs Everyone: Is Scientology as big a menace as it's made out to be? Shant Fabricatorian talks to some of the Church's longtime opponents". newmatilda.com. Retrieved 2008-03-05.
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(help) - Staff (March 10, 2008). "Anonymous & Anti-War to Hit Hollywood Saturday". LAist. Gothamist LLC. Retrieved 2008-03-11.
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(help) - Ortega, Tony (March 11, 2008). "What to Get L. Ron Hubbard for His Birthday: How "Anonymous" has changed the game of exposing Scientology's ruthless global scam". The Village Voice. Village Voice LLC. Retrieved 2008-03-11.
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(help) - Zajac, Joe (March 12, 2008). "Anonymous vs. Church of Scientology". The Recorder. Central Connecticut State University. Retrieved 2008-03-12.
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(help) - Farley, Robert (March 12, 2008). "Scientology fights back in court: The church is seeking a restraining order to stop a new round of protests". St. Petersburg Times. Times Publishing Company. Retrieved 2008-03-12.
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(help) - Thompson, Stephen (March 12, 2008). "Church Of Scientology Trying To Block Protesters". The Suncoast News. Tamba Bay Online. Retrieved 2008-03-12.
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(help) - Staff (March 12, 2008). "Scientology files petition against Internet group". Tampa Bay's 10 News. WTSP-TV. Retrieved 2008-03-12.
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(help) - Shah, Neel (March 12, 2008). ""Anonymous" to Wish L. Ron Hubbard a Very Happy Birthday". Radar Online. Radar Magazine. Retrieved 2008-03-12.
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(help) - Thompson, Stephen (March 13, 2008). "Judge Denies Scientologists' Bid To Block Protesters". The Tampa Tribune. Tampa Bay Online. Retrieved 2008-03-13.
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(help) - Farley, Robert (March 13, 2008). "Judge denies petition by Scientologists to limit protest: The church filed a suit for an "injunction for protection" from a group called Anonymous". St. Petersburg Times. Retrieved 2008-03-13.
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(help) - Farley, Robert (March 13, 2008). "Second Scientology suit rejected". Breaking News tampabay.com. St. Petersburg Times. Retrieved 2008-03-13.
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(help) - The Associated Press (March 13, 2008). "Judge declines Scientologists' request for restraining order". The Bradenton Herald. The McClatchy Company. Retrieved 2008-03-13.
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(help) - Farley, Robert (March 13, 2008). "Court again rebuffs Scientology's lawsuit". St. Petersburg Times. Retrieved 2008-03-13.
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(help) - Shah, Neel (March 14, 2008). "Xenuphobia: Scientologists Rip Page From 'Anonymous' Playbook". Radar Online. Radar Magazine. Retrieved 2008-03-14.
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(help) - Moncada, Carlos (March 14, 2008). "Scientology Foes Returning To Clearwater Saturday". The Tampa Tribune. Tampa Bay Online. Retrieved 2008-03-14.
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(help) - Koppelman, Tess (March 14, 2008). "Masked Protesters Target Church of Scientology: A group called Anonymous is protesting the Church of Scientology". MyFox Kansas City: FOX 4 News. Fox Television Stations, Inc. Retrieved 2008-03-14.
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(help) - Moncada, Carlos (March 15, 2008). "Clearwater Hopes Rallies Don't Run Visitors Off". The Tampa Tribune. Retrieved 2008-03-15.
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(help) - Chisamera, Dee (March 15, 2008). "Scientologists' Ban Against 'Violent' Peaceful Protesters Denied". eFluxMedia. Retrieved 2008-03-15.
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(help) - Sarno, David (Los Angeles Times) (March 15, 2008). "Internet unites, emboldens critics of Scientology". Fort Wayne Journal Gazette. Retrieved 2008-03-15.
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I know I've been falling behind in adding some of these newer sources to the article, I've got a lot on my plate at the moment but I'll try to catch up with it all soon. Cirt (talk) 22:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Maxim chanology article
Lots of coverage.
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Z00r (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Very complete coverage, and it doesn't incorrectly portray Anonymous' memes either (it just avoids most of them). Unfortunately, it's all about the March 10 "Beware the Ides of March" protests, which are already covered by a number of other sources. I don't know what we can add that hasn't been added already or will actually add something new to the article. the_one092001 (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I believe this is referring to the August 2008 issue of Maxim magazine. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- The issue is from August 2008, but all the references within the article are to the March and February protests. the_one092001 (talk) 23:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it provides information on the death of Mudkips the cat; the identification of "Rorschach" and "Ryan"; the PI carrying a weapon at the protest; Mark Ebner as the source of the Tom Cruse video; past actions of Anonymous, such as harrassing Hal Turner; etc. There could be more, but I read it a few days ago and can only afford to skim it now to refresh my memory of what it held. I imagine there is more of value in it. Also, there is now this article on two Anon protesters who were harassed and had their signs stolen and damaged. When Scientology Attacks And now Alan Moore has mentioned the protests, though he doesn't name them, it is clear he is referring to Scientology protests by individuals wearing Guy Fawks masks. Alan Moore Still Knows the Score! page 5 "I was also quite heartened the other day when watching the news to see that there were demonstrations outside the Scientology headquarters over here, and that they suddenly flashed to a clip showing all these demonstrators wearing V for Vendetta [Guy Fawkes] masks. That pleased me. That gave me a warm little glow."--Cast (talk) 08:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- The issue is from August 2008, but all the references within the article are to the March and February protests. the_one092001 (talk) 23:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I believe this is referring to the August 2008 issue of Maxim magazine. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- A lot of that background doesn't belong here though. That Anonymous attacked Hal Turner doesn't really deserve mention here; it was pretty much unrelated. It might make more sense in Anon's own article, but not here. And a lot of the events are too specific to be listed. The actions taken by a few Scientology members in LA aren't really very significant or notable within the context of a several thousand member global protest. The protest section ATM needs to be trimmed, not expanded. the_one092001 (talk) 08:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Agree with most of this last comment by The one092001 (talk · contribs), and the trimming/copyediting is on my longer term list of stuff to do, however in addition to incorporating additional references including those listed above. Cirt (talk) 06:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- A lot of that background doesn't belong here though. That Anonymous attacked Hal Turner doesn't really deserve mention here; it was pretty much unrelated. It might make more sense in Anon's own article, but not here. And a lot of the events are too specific to be listed. The actions taken by a few Scientology members in LA aren't really very significant or notable within the context of a several thousand member global protest. The protest section ATM needs to be trimmed, not expanded. the_one092001 (talk) 08:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Regarding cybercrime category and the like
I believe we would need a reliable 3rd party source stating it is cybercrime before it should be added to the category. Correct me if I'm wrong, but apparently the only source claiming that currently is the Church of Scientology itself, which is not a third party. TH1RT3EN talk ♦ contribs 05:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Agree with Th1rt3en (talk · contribs). This appears to be a characterization of Project Chanology that the Church of Scientology and its representatives has been trying to push out in its public relations campaign for some time now. Without a third-party source satisfying WP:V/WP:RS, or a conviction of some kind, this is a wholly inappropriate category and classification. Cirt (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Update: Upperclear (talk · contribs) blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet of DavidYork71 (talk • contribs • block log • creation log). This sort of disruption has happened before on this article, with CatUrineCuredMe (talk · contribs) and McCainSoulBro (talk · contribs) (both blocked indefinitely as socks of DavidYork71 (talk · contribs)). Cirt (talk) 20:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Have you seen the Trapped in the Closet episode?
[Sings] I'm trapped in the closet! Yeah, that was terrific. I thought the way that South Park handled that bit with the Scientologists was wonderful. I was also quite heartened the other day when watching the news to see that there were demonstrations outside the Scientology headquarters over here, and that they suddenly flashed to a clip showing all these demonstrators wearing V for Vendetta [Guy Fawkes] masks. That pleased me. That gave me a warm little glow.
- Staff (2008-07-16). "Q&A: 'Watchmen' creator Alan Moore - Alan Moore Still Knows the Score!". Entertainment Weekly. Entertainment Weekly and Time Inc. Retrieved 2008-07-24.
- Will work this in later. Cirt (talk) 06:06, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Chicago Tribune
New sources - From the shadows, Anonymous battles Scientology and Who's who in this face-off. Will get on this soon. Cirt (talk) 02:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Why is it referred to as an "ongoing protest" when it's a defunct harassment campaign?
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