Talk:Bryan Adams

Bryan Adams guested with Def Leppard in 1993 for a live cover of Bad Company's "Can't Get Enough Of Your Love". I'm finally getting around to adding my signature.

Gringo300 05:20, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

revisions

if you wish to dispute the changes put down by us, please contact info@bryanadams.com we'd be happy to discuss them.

thank you

michelle booth

According to User_Talk:213.70.183.38, these repeated removals are claimed by User:213.70.183.38 as coming from [bryanadams.com bryanadams.com] -- which does appear to be an official Web site. However, 213.70.183.38 (and these edits are coming from all kinds of different IP address) does not give any evidence that he/she was in fact authorized by Adams, or that these removed alleged facts were inaccurate. Above, obviously, the user's claiming to be "michelle booth" (and implicitly claiming to be authorized by Adams). (I think for these to be properly removable, both would need to be shown.) Anyone who has the time and the connections want to try to verify whether these edits were in fact coming from Adams' office?

And, "michelle booth" -- please note that I am not saying that your edits are factually inaccurate. However, as a matter of courtesy, I think it's up for you to show that these are factually accurate, rather than to march in and tell the Wikipedia community that it has to contact you if it wants to dispute these edits. That's not how Wikipedia works. --Nlu 10:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Dear whoever you are,

We are currently on tour in Germany (hence the many IP addresses) and revising the page out here. your facts are NOT correct and that is why they have been removed. If you want to start a page on work done previous to Mr. Adams solo career, by all means, but please stop posting this on this page. Plus he did not live in France for several years, he did not go play music in the hall of schools in Canada etc etc. Furthermore, your insistance in changing the page back to what you wrote has deleted many of the additions we posted this morning. As i said in an earlier note, if you would like to discuss this with me i'm happy to. Cheers and thanks for being so interested in Bryan. Where are you based? Michelle

These are not my facts; these were written by somebody else. Again, I am not saying that they are true; however, the nature of Wikipedia is that effectively, people making edits should justify them. (Note that it's not just me who's reverting; other people were reverting your edits as well because you were not justifying them; now that you've given an explanation, as far as I'm concerned, this is sufficient. I don't know if other people agree, however.) And note that these reversions came as a result of your repeated failure to justify the edits despite calls for you to justify them. I have no interest in representing whether those things happened or not; that's outside my scope of knowledge. But please try to understand Wikipedia a bit better before you claim that these were my facts, in particular. --Nlu 11:05, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Dear whoever you are,

Do you work for wikipedia? Who are you? I never noticed the part of the site where you or / someone had asked for an explanation or justification until today. i'm not that technical, but i'm learning...fast. Moreover, you were the only one as far as i can see that was insisting on my justification, and if these were not "your facts" and you had no interest in representing whether they happened or not, then what do you care if the changes were made? If you are so concerned with the facts being correct then you should have researched them before you continually re-posted them. Anyway, all is understood. Regards Michelle

I don't work for Wikipedia. In fact, I don't think anyone works for Wikipedia. I'm just an interested user. For the history of the page (at which, if you have time to dig through the history of the page to see who added the allegations that you removed), click on "history" on top of the page.

But why I care if changes are made is that it is considered rude to remove facts withtout a good reason to -- and, with you repeatedly doing it from anonymous IPs, it made the changes themselves highly suspicious as vandalism. Take a look at what sometimes happens that vandals do -- for example, the history of the page Michael Jordan, a frequent target for vandals -- and you'll see that your behavior appeared suspicious.

Don't act as a bull in a china shop. If you're going to utilize Wikipedia as a new user, welcome, but don't act as if you exist outside the protocol that exists on Wikipedia. Read the policies. --Nlu 15:56, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

To the anon poster:

Please read Wikipedia:Cite sources. It's not enough simply to remove material without explanation, and then claim to have some position that gives you authority. Whatever your position, you need to say why you're removing the information. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:06, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

edits to BA page

Hi

I am consitantly removeing references to work done previous to BA's musical history because it is factually incorrect. ie: BA did not play music in any schools in Canada, and did not live in France for several years.

Whoever keeps putting these notes up, please respect my letter and changes, as I work with BA everyday.

Thank you very much!

Michelle Booth info@bryanadams.com

I object to the characterization you made on User_talk:Mel_Etitis that I am "cyber-attacking" you. As I noted above, you're the one who comes in here and make what appeared to be suspicious changes. I only hope that Mr. Adams doesn't share your manners. --Nlu 01:11, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid that making edits on the basis that you know best isn't acceptable here. Can you provide some evidence for your assertions? There are a few Wikipedia articles on people whom I know personally (and one on me); I can't edit them on the basis of personal knowledge (see Wikipedia:No original research — I have to provide citations like anyone else. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:05, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

you are reposting incorrect information. if you read the rules of wikipedia you will notice that this qualifies as vandalism. please respect the changes we have made, and if you wish to discuss them further, please contact me directly at info@bryanadams.com thank you michelle

Michelle

I emailed Michelle on info_at_bryanadams.com and she confirmed that it was her who made the changes to the article. It's the official site and, yes, she is the real McCoy. Mel should back down and let Michelle have the last word on this one.

Unfortunatelly, Mel will not do this; not because he's stubborn and not because he disagrees, but because he gets a kick from:

1. Pissing people off; and 2. Angering and upsetting people.

Sorry, Michelle, but this guy is a lost cause. You're not the first user to have your words ripped apart by him. More info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anittas#Mel_Etitis

--Anittas 18:04, 21 September 2005 (UTC)