User talk:Jimbo Wales

flagged revisions trial?

Hi Jimbo - having been dead busy away from wikipedia for the last few weeks, I thought I'd come straight to the horse's mouth and ask what the current status of the flagged revisions trial is? If anyone could point me in the direction of current discussion, or try and sum up the status quo in a few words, it'd be appreciated. My reading of the various places I've dug around is that nothing happened, and no specific action is yet scheduled? cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 23:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe there's a summary posted here. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 23:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be dense, Carbuncle, but I can't make sense of why you linked to that page. It's about someone being alleged to have reverted a template more than three times. Nothing about flagging. Is there a page where it's being discussed? Here's my view on it:

1. "Flagged revisions" seems a non-desctiptive term. What is being flagged up about the revision? Perhaps they should be called "postponed edits" or similar.
2. This feature should only be activated for specific articles that have been subject to repeated, persistent vandalism or that are subject to large numbers of edits or views, e.g. the top 0.01%
3. It should be possible for any user of a few weeks to authenticate changes, and to request to receive notifications, e.g. by email, that edit attempts have been made, optionally with the diff.

Mr. Jones (talk) 11:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC) The relevant pages seem to be

1. Wikipedia:Flagged revisions

(fixing threads which may have been a bit split up?) - thanks Mr. Jones - just fwiw, I think Delicious was pointing out a recently departed user's views that nothing really seems to be happening on this (it's the 'BLP' bit mentioned in the banner at the top, not the specific warnings or anything, I think). IIRC, Jimbo asked the dev.s to turn the feature on - have they done so, or maybe it's time to ask nicely again, Jimbo? :-) Privatemusings (talk) 02:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

g'day again :-) - I think I read on the foundation mailing list (in a comment from David Gerard) that you're working on a further proposal which you hope will gain stronger support? - any pointers as to where this might be happening, or any updates as to how it's going? :-) Privatemusings (talk) 22:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

It's dormant. Jimbo hasn't said any thing about it for a while. The discussion of proposed trials has had just a few edits the past month. Same with other relevant pages. Wikipedia Review is complaining about it, but they're putting more actual effort into deleting some British quiz show contestant. If want to do something about it, I suggest going through the proposed trials and make something out of it that could get wide acceptance. Shameless plug: Trial 18: Shadow flagging --Apoc2400 (talk) 10:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm shopping a very premature proposal around to a few people, looking for broad consensus. News to come soon.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 12:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, may I ask you to include me into "a few people"? I actually was one of the authors of the proposal that was the subject of a large poll sometime ago. I am still very interested in Flagged Revisions and their implementation here, and I think my advice will be usefull. Thanks in advance, Ruslik (talk) 20:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Likely he is just asking a few trusted users about a very loose outline of a proposal, and the rest of us will hear about it very soon. I'm anxiously awaiting a proposal, along with many others I'm sure, all we can do is wait.--Res2216firestar 19:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Jimbo. I've been working on assessing consensus w.r.t. flagged revisions for some time now, and I finally drafted Wikipedia:Flag protection and patrolled revisions. I think there's a need and support for a system to monitor and better control blps, but in the same time, a strict Flaggedrevs for all of them has no consensus. So, I think we could have consensus for a passive flag, patrolled revisions. And we also need to be able to fully 'activate' flagged revs on some pages, as a protection measure, that's what I proposed as a variant of flagged protection. Comments are welcome. Cenarium (talk) 00:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

< - seems like quite a few people are pulling in kinda the same direction, kinda like a cat sleigh perhaps.... Is the 'soon' of your timeframe roughly 'this week', or maybe 'March sometime', Jimbo? Privatemusings (talk) 22:26, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The Aviator

Please see the following page, The Aviator. I have been observing some vandalism of a section of the article, but now it's advanced instead of through other means to a legal threat. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC).

...for which I have indef-blocked the editor. --Rodhullandemu 21:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Non commercial image license discussion

G'day, You have been invited for input at Wikipedia_talk:Featured_picture_candidates#Non_commercial_image_license. --Noodle snacks (talk) 11:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Arbitration page for Iberian-Guanche inscriptions

Dear friend,

We have read the Arbitration Commitee History and see that we could address to you. We can see that one of the arbitrators (FayssalF) has sent the request out of focus, and some others are quickly following him advising "decline".
I have sent to a clerk (Ryan_Postlethwaite)a statement to stress this to be put up, if suitable.
Could you please help me on posting the following statement?

Dear RP,

I would need urgently if you could help at clarifying a case.

"Iberian-Guanche inscriptions" page is under arbitration. Somebody has put the case out of focus by stating that there is no problem with the page content, but with the material included in the page. Obviously, if reading, even superficially, the discussions, the matter is strictly a controversy about page content itself.

I would like if you could put in my name the following statement in the Arbitration Page:

I have no other account in Wikipedia. I would like to look carefully into why the page was deleted. This was not due to peripheral reasons, but to the actual page content itself.

Material in page was permitted.

[1].

I expect your news. Thank you. Regards,

--Iberomesornix (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

My impression is that they are just following FayssalF's misunderstanding.

I expect your news. Thank you. Regards.

--Iberomesornix (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Auf deutsch reden

Hallo Jimmy, ich las deine Nachricht auf der Benutzerseite, dass du es magst deutsche Kommentare zu bekommen! Nun biete ich dir an, dein Deutsch zu verbessern!

Kannst dazu vielleicht mal im ICR.Chat der Wikipedia vorbeischauen! http://platon.ext.baur4.info/wpchat/deWP.html</nowik> Ich bin immer abends dort. Vielleicht könntest du mir dann mit meinem Englisch weiterhelfen?

Ich würde mich, (ach, auch alle anderen) freuen, wenn du mal wieder in der deutschen Wikipedia vorbeischaust

-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.62.154.105 (talk) 21:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Loose translation:

Hi Jimmy, I read your message on your user page that you like to receive comments in German. Now I offer you to improve your German. Could you take a look at http://platon.ext.baur4.info/wpchat/deWP.html. I'm always there at night. Perhaps you could help me with my English? I, and others, would be happy when you shown up in the German Wikipedia once again. --Rodhullandemu 00:11, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

"Live near SF and have an hour to help Wikipedia?"

There sometimes appears at the top of the page "Live near SF and have an hour to help Wikipedia?" but the only link it gives is a javascript link, which is a dead link. I asked on one of the forums and nobody knew what it was, only confirming he javascript link "ethnio.show" was dead for them, too. Perhaps you know? Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 01:41, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

It could be a geonotice. I have no idea how to check though. Graham87 07:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

It worked for me, but only when opening it in the same tab rather than a new one. It's seeking participants for a usability study for Wikipedia. the wub "?!" 10:59, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I've never seen it before, myself, and I don't know about it. But probably the Foundation does. :) --Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Wub, what URL did it end up at? Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 21:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll assume it's this? §hep^Talk 21:52, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I saw it once. I clicked it and read it, but it hasn't shown up since. It was asking for people to come to downtown San Francisco on a weekend in March to spend an hour being interviewed about Wikipedia usage and such. I think it said they'd pay you like $15 or something. You had to sign up and they'd call you to let you know if you were picked to be interviewed. Killiondude (talk) 22:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, costs me more than $15 in gas to drive there and back. I thought it was some kind of social event people were doing. Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 00:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Jasonr

Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Jasonr_(reconfirmation). Someone has posted this, without much forethought it seems like. Perhaps you can head it off - if this person, who reportedly worked for you and got his admin bit as a result, is no longer associated with Wikipedia... Would you remove the bit then yourself? Avruch ^T 15:45, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully my removal of his bit will put this to rest.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Jimbo, apologies for the headache that caused, I was trying to start a discussion similar to m:Wikimedia_Forum#Tidying_developers.27_user_rights. I didn't expect people to turn it into a vote for actions while I was away. MBisanz ^talk 22:18, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

question

what happens when there are multiple reliable 3rd party sources that conflict, but multiple 1st party sources that say one thing. do the editors go with the 1st party source..Example: Johnny A releases a book stating he is a homosexual. "News weekly" denies the book saying Johnny A. isn't a homosexual. "News Report hour' states that Johnny is infact a homosexual. Who does wikipedia beleive? reply on my talk page. 70.242.179.192 (talk) 04:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello, you are probably not too familiar with Wikipedia. This is something that should be asked at the article's talk page or the help desk:) ZooFari 04:31, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Agree with ZooFari here. The question is a bit too vague as stated. In general, a book published by a person stating something about their personal life should be considered a reliable source - but there can of course be exceptions and complications. Judgment is always necessary.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 02:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Onscene language by WebHampster in Skull and Bones discussion

Resolved

 – user counselled, but ultimately blocked for trolling

Jimbo,

I am having trouble with a user named WebHampster in the Skull and Bones discussion pages. He is hiding my text in a collapse box and told me to F-off. I thought that wikipedia users were required to respect each other and act like gentlemen. Could you please talk to this user.

Thank you, M

I'll take a look at this, Jimbo might have other things to do right now. --Rodhullandemu 18:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)