User talk:Mbz1

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Following Passionless to ITN was really not a good idea. I consider you a friend, which makes this difficult to say, but ITN and Wikipedia are things that I care a lot about, so if you and Passionless can't behave yourselves in each others' company yet insist on inflicting it on each other, one or both of you is going to end up on the wrong side of a lengthy block. Please don't make me do that. You archived your talk page while I was writing this, so by all means feel free to archive/remove this with the rest of it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

What a day! You are the third admin, who threatened me with a block in the last few hours :-).

May I please ask you what gave you an idea I followed user:passionless anywhere? I assure you I am not interested in user:passionless's contributions at all, except of course when user:passionless nominates on deletion the article I just wrote, or trying to make me blocked for nothing or hounding my contributions over not just one, but a few differnt pages or... I could have continued, but just to make it short my concern about user:passionless contributions is connected only, and only and only to the user's contributions about me personally or my own contributions, and nothing else.

I've already explained today how I got to the ITN page, but I will repeat it one more time here at my talk page:

I was going to nominate the discussed article for DYK. A few days ago I commented on a DYK nomination for an article of a similar subject. One of the reasons user:gatoclass used in his "maybe" vote was that the article was nominated for ITN. So before making DYK nomination for this new article I decided to make sure this article is not nominated for ITN, and it was how I got to ITN page.

HJ, if now after I explained to you what happened, you believe my conduct deserves a block I will accept your decision with no complains because I trust you to be a fair administrator, and honestly because I am tired of being the subject of "If in doubt, blame Mbz1", and of course I assure you I would not complain if you are to block user:Passionless :-)

On the other hand , if you'd really like to help to solve the situation between user:passionless and me, it could be solved with an interaction ban established between the two of us as it was proposed by user:AGK already. I am for this with both my hands. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:20, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Forgot to say that user:passionless is going to take me to AE. May I please ask you one more time to consider an interaction ban? I believe everybody and most of all the community would only benefit from this. I believe sooner or later it will be imposed anyway, so it is better to do it rather sooner than later.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:42, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't so much concerned with how you got to ITN/C as what you did when you got there. I've been active there for a long time, Passionless has been chiming in (and, on the whole, keeping out of trouble) there for a few weeks and then your first post to a normally fairly quiet page is to continue your dispute with Passionless. I'm actually surprised Chaser or Tariq didn't block you, because I seriously considered it and we're friends. Now that's been said, it's in the past. I'm glad to hear that you found your own way there and would be very glad if you would participate there in future—ITN suffers from under-participation and could always use more opinions (but could do without editors taking virtual pot shots at one another).

As to an interaction ban, I would hope that wouldn't be necessary because it would either be too weak to be effective or so draconian that you can't even post to the same page. Can you not just agree to disagree and go your separate ways? You didn't need to comment on Passionless today, you could have just made your argument in abstract terms and you would have posted differing opinions in the same discussion. An interaction ban probably wouldn't allow you to do that. Besides, you're both reasonable people. You may have vastly differing views on very emotive subjects, but if you could just wipe the slate clean, I don't see why you can't cooperate with each other. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 04:04, 24 March 2011 (UTC)