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Link to Greenwald article

Hi Srich, regarding the tag you added here, when I click on the article link, it takes me directly to the first paragraph of the article called "The strange and consequential case of Bradley Manning, Adrian Lamo and WikiLeaks," after which there's a "continue reading" link for the rest. Are you only seeing the author's page when you click on it? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 03:44, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, we can bypass "continue reading" with this link to the whole article, if that'll make it clearer. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 03:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Misgendering / misnaming of B. Manning

Is there a reason that Wikipedia is still referring to Manning as 'Bradley' with no reference to their preferred handle? Context: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.118.24 (talk) 21:11, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No mistake. It is well documented in archives 3 and 4.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 21:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As the writer of that blog post and someone who would rather refer to Manning as "she", I would agree that it is a deliberate choice to gender Manning as male, and one that I'm still not convinced comports with BLP, given we have reliable sources that she, at the time of her arrest, identified as female. There's an ethical concern that we are outing Manning, but if she is using GID in her trial (and she has a diagnosis thereof), then it's not that much than if she was outed to the Daily Star. We also have to balance that with the concern to Lamo she said that she didn't want to be remembered "as a boy". The fact that several members of the community turned to concern trolling and using Manning as a wedge issue to roll back the current semi-ethical way we treat trans people who are fully out (e.g. Chaz Bono, Laura Jane Grace) doesn't help the case. Sceptre ^(talk) 20:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 Is there a reason that Wikipedia is still referring to Manning as 'Bradley' with no reference to their preferred handle? Context: [http://tintower.co.uk/2012/05/05/on-wikipedia-and-breanna-manning/]  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.241.118.24|96.241.118.24]] ([[User talk:96.241.118.24|talk]]) 21:11, 16 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 :No mistake. It is well documented in archives 3 and 4.<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<font face="High Tower Text" size="1px"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></font>]]</span> 21:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
+::As the writer of that blog post and someone who would rather refer to Manning as "she", I would agree that it is a deliberate choice to gender Manning as male, and one that I'm still not convinced comports with BLP, given we have reliable sources that she, at the time of her arrest, identified as female. There's an ethical concern that we are outing Manning, but if she is using GID in her trial (and she has a diagnosis thereof), then it's not that much than if she was outed to the Daily Star. We also have to balance that with the concern to Lamo she said that she didn't want to be remembered "as a boy". The fact that several members of the community turned to concern trolling and using Manning as a wedge issue to roll back the current semi-ethical way we treat trans people who are fully out (e.g. Chaz Bono, Laura Jane Grace) doesn't help the case. '''[[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Sceptre|talk]])</sup> 20:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)