User talk:Writegeist

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Hi. This edit changed the meaning of a sentence. You changed "Since the war this classification was no longer relevant" to "Since the war this classification has been relevant". In any case, I think the sentence should be removed since it's unsourced and I'm pretty sure that some people in the RS still consider themselves Yugoslav. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Good catch. Thanks, you're right, I forgot to type the prefix, shoulda been "irrelevant"; and I agree the sentence should be removed. Writegeist (talk) 00:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thread referenced at RfC

The Collect thread

For the benefit of those taking an interest in the RfC, here is the thread that I referenced there. I've copied it here from his Talk because he deleted key responses as it unfolded there. Below is the thread with the deleted material restored.

Diffs please...

...for my calling you 'a sock for Kelly, Ferrylodge, Fcreid, THF and a few more'[1]. Also, please, diffs for my 'friends', as you refer to them, who you allege made the same accusations. Thank you! Writegeist (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Do a WP search, and also read the names of those whom you contacted at the time. Meanwhile note the Scrambled{?} charge of socpuppetry. Then offer your apology. Thanks! Collect (talk) 20:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. You're more experienced at WP searches than I am, so if you're refusing, as it seems you are, to post the diffs and names (which presumably you have, otherwise you wouldn't have made the allegation) please tell me how to do a WP search for instances where I and these alleged 'friends' called you 'a sock for Kelly, Ferrylodge, Fcreid, THF and a few more.' Incidentally I didn't know Scramblecase had made a charge of sock puppetry. Against? A diff for that too would be helpful. Thanks. Writegeist (talk) 20:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

look up "wikibreak" and then look at the WQA on Ratel. should give you a start. Collect (talk) 20:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I have looked up 'wikibreak'. I have looked at the WQA on Ratel. Neither contains any evidence or reference for my having called you a 'a sock for Kelly, Ferrylodge, Fcreid, THF and a few more.' I asked you to direct me to instances of the accusations that you allege -- either in the form of diffs, or in the form of directions to perform the WP search that you advised. Please help as requested. Thank you. I note that although you posted a wikibreak template to this page, you have made numerous posts since. So I trust that providing this information won't inconvenience you any more than posting evasions, as you have already done twice. Thank you. Writegeist (talk) 21:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I note that you have not been on your advertised "Wikibreak" for some time now and that you have been posting to various pages. I would be grateful for the courtesy of a civil and informative reply on this page (or on my Talk if you prefer) to these perfectly reasonable requests:

• 1) Diffs to support your accusation that I called you 'a sock for Kelly, Ferrylodge, Fcreid, THF and a few more.'
• 2) Diffs to support your additional accusation, namely that other editors, the ones you refer to as my 'friends', made the same allegation.

IIRC, I have only ever flown one sock kite here: nothing whatsoever to do with you, and obviously not serious, it was a satirical suggestion that WP's administration might be nothing more than the two cartoon characters Dumb and Dumber plus their socks. (Cf. Eddie Izzard's crack that WP is actually written by "three people in a toilet.") Understandably therefore I'm concerned by your accusations -- not least because, if they're true, I must start worrying about my memory. Not to mention you'll have to start worrying about yours if we discover that you simply made up any or all of this socky stuff!

Thank you. Writegeist (talk) 00:02, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

3 posts a day is a Wikibreak for me. Especially since the person I asked to be my proxy in mediation declined on account of time. Ikip made the allegations, even though he is an admitted sockpuppeteer, and had over a dozen blocks and innumerable warnings) , you are an admitted sockpuppeteer, GreekParadise is an admitted sockpuppeteer, and so on. Buster wrote "Ferrylodge was "spring-cleaning" the Sarah Palin article 5 (FIVE) weeks before she was asked to join the ticket. A truly remarkable co-incidence!!! To pretend that operatives don't exist and to take editors to task for stating the obvious is improper behavior.--Buster7 (talk) 12:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC) " Others who have butted heads are Abbarocks (banned) and Spotfixer (caught as sockpuppeteer). IIRC, you had an indef block at least. " he topic of this mischievous alert should actually be Collect/Scramblecase, who is disrupting several pages on wikipedia at the moment as well as wasting my precious time. ► RATEL ◄ 00:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC) " specifoca;;y calling me a sockpuppeteer. Thus showing that you and your firends are, indeed, admitted sockpuppeteers, and that I have been falsely charged several times. That a person who has had an indef block can berate a person who has 2 3RR violations in over 7K edits is astounding. A person who wrote: "And it led me to wonder who might be whose sock over there. Writegeist (talk) 20:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)" "The quiet patience of a saint illuminating a manuscript; the tenacity of a terrier hunting a rat. — Writegeist (talk) 07:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)" "I don't know whether or not "Fcreid" is a sockpuppet. It's plausible." ""Warning" from one of a WP:TAGTEAM? That's rich. Writegeist (talk) 23:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC) " Your friends? "I am a Cubs fan. The pain is unbearable at times. I would no more consider watching the "fillies" win the Whirrled Series than I would....um.....a......consider Collect a good faith editor...:')....--Buster7 (talk) 13:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC) " "rIGHT....I have been the one that has been arguing with c_____t about paid operatives. It started 3/4 weeks ago...It just seemed like an obvious statement of fact that Both parties would be present to make sure that they had their say in matters. AND IT WASN'T JUST VOLUNTEERS, BUT PAID STAFFERS. I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT, I WAS MERELY MENTIONING IT..If I was running a campaign I would certainly want to know what was going into the Sara PALIN article. It just made sense. WELL>>>>>C_____t got all upset and said I was reprehensible for even thinking that. He/she made a big todo about it...in the hopes of shutting me up, I guess. She was the only Palin editor to have a problem with it. Ferrylodge was OK withit. No-one else got into a snit....just C_____t. Which made me suspicious. so......I started to sniff around and see if something fragrant would surface. You know the rest....see you at the Palin pages!--Buster7 (talk) 19:28, 14 October 2008 (UTC)" "I am trying to improve the article by attempting to force Collect to stop having anything to do with it. --Buster7 (talk) 02:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)" So much for rational fairmindedness. But wait -- there's more! "It would seem that Cummulous Clowds was not alone in his paranoia. Maybe, had I known of our mutual situation, we could have compared notes.--Buster7 (talk) 05:50, 27 December 2008 (UTC)" And then, of course, "Using a tag-team is not a way around 3RR, nor is 3RR a way around NPOV, Verifiability, etc. Warn away.Factchecker atyourservice (talk) 22:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC) " "Thanks But I have a feeling these guys are getting a paycheck for this. I wonder how long they will try to keep it up.Factchecker atyourservice (talk) 22:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)" and of course, the "best of edit summaries" from him ... "Utterly, utterly ridiculous. Black is white! Up is down!) This is pretty amusing, and around and round we go. Black is white! Up is down! Take the red pill.) Undid WP:Tagteam This material was added by consensus in talk. It will not be removed unless there is a consensus to do so in talk.) Undid Undoing vandalism. Persist in this and I will seek to have you blocked.) This is now abusive vandalism and deliberate ignorance of consensus. You've been warned repeatedly.) Lying" is not the same as "rebutting") " Introman did over twenty reverts in his first twenty edits on WP -- a record. And finally [2] showing your status as a meatpuppet at nest. Thanks! Now back to Wikibreak. Collect (talk) 15:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

More on Travb/Ikip/Inclusionist et al ... [3] [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive134#Travb.27s_response] and a slew more. You are known by the company you keep. And I did not need to look at 7K eduits one-by-one for this. Collect (talk) 15:27, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

More from GreekParadise: "At any rate, I feel like you should check whether Kelly, Hobartimus, and/or Collect are sock puppets of each other or somehow connected with the McCain campaign. ... GreekParadise (talk) 16:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)" "But I'd simply ask that you check to make sure he is not a sockpuppet of Kelly or Collect, and if he's not--and there's no way to check if he's a political operative--I'd let it go.GreekParadise (talk) 20:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC) " One more example of a totally false, egregiously false, sock accusation made against me. Do you really want more such posted? I would be glad to post these anywhere you like. Collect (talk) 19:51, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The following response was deleted by Collect:

That's just silly. There's no such accusation there. Just queries. Also, I have no "friends" on WP; just co-contributors. What other people say about you is irrelevant. Your attempt at some kind of guilt by association is not appreciated, and it does you no good here.

I asked for diffs to support, specifically and most importantly your serious accusation that I called you 'a sock for Kelly, Ferrylodge, Fcreid, THF and a few more'.

You haven’t provided supporting diffs.

Instead you posted counterproductive responses that follow your familiar pattern: first arrogant, snide and totally unhelpful; then ignoring the issue altogether, and finally hauling up a netful of red herrings.

Not only did you fail to provide the diffs I asked for. You added two more gratuitous insults, the first being that I’m "an admitted [4]" and the second that a post from another editor proves my "status as a [5]] at nest" – the former WP:PA totally untrue (and of course unsupported by any diffs) and the latter unsupported by the diff you provided.

To support your allegation that I accused the SPA newcomer Fcreid of being a sock, you submit my statement, in dialogue with him at his Talk, that I couldn’t possibly know whether he was one! And you omit my explanation for raising the subject in the first place, which came later in the same post: "There's always a possibility of sockpuppetry where SPAs are concerned. Please see WP:SPA again: While a new user [new user "Fcreid" for example] who immediately participates in a discussion without an edit history [again, new user "Fcreid" for example] may be an illegitimate sock puppet, it remains possible that a new user’s contributions are alternatively the product of a disinterested third party wishing to improve the Wikipedia project [e.g. as "Fcreid" claims]... (Please note there are no remonstrations, much less the officiousness SPA's can encounter here, in my responses. Just good-natured joshing.)" [6] Dirty pool, Collect.

My reference, in the same thread, to other editors at Sarah Palin at that time acting, IMO, as some kind of "stooges" for the GOP and puppets of McCain and Palin self-evidently has nothing to do with sockpuppetry (should you be tempted to play dirty pool with that one also).

Please now provide diffs for:

• 1) your accusation that I called you 'a sock for Kelly, Ferrylodge, Fcreid, THF and a few more' [7]
• 2) your accusation that I am an ‘admitted sockpuppeteer'[8]
• 3) your accusation that I am ‘a meatpuppet’ [9]

Thank you. Writegeist (talk) 20:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I supported the exact statements that I made -- that you and your friends made unfounded charges. Now you are on the edge of abusing my talk page. Kindly refrain from such abuse. Collect (talk) 21:08, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The following response was deleted by Collect as "vandalism" :

Your accusation was not general as you now pretend; it was particular: you attacked me very specifically for calling you 'a sock for Kelly, Ferrylodge, Fcreid, THF and a few more.' [10] It is not true that you "supported that exact statement." You provided no diffs for it.

As you have now proved that you cannot, in fact, support it, I think it’s reasonable to ask you to withdraw it as an unwarranted and unsubstantiated personal attack.

I note you deleted my previous post in this thread (although fortunately it remains in the thread’s history[11]). As it comprehensively refutes your claim of support for your accusation, and as it also requests diffs for the latest in your series of wild and unfounded accusations (i.e. that I am an "admitted sockpuppeteer" and a "meatpuppet"), your deletion of it is significant. Needless to say, you have not provided diffs for your latest personal attacks on me either.

Please note: "I would never accuse anyone of anything ..." Collect (talk) 04:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC) [12][13] Hm.

I note that your latest line of attack is to respond to my requests for substantiation of your other personal attacks on me, and also to my observation that you cannot produce it, with yet another accusation -- of "talk page abuse".

Sorry about your cat. Writegeist (talk) 00:48, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Significantly, Collect chose to delete responses that drew his – and any other reader’s – attention to his failure to provide any diffs to support his very specific personal attacks on me. Deleting this information from the thread serves to bolster his false claim to have provided the diffs.

The MO here: unsupported statement(s)/attack; refuting argument(s) ignored; diversions created; waters muddied with random diffs or WP policies that do not address the issue at hand; refuting arguments deleted where possible; original unsupported statement/attack reasserted as if it has been supported; dissenting view denigrated and, where possible, deleted as "vandalism". Writegeist (talk) 17:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

WG has interpolated material with which I disagree, and which is clearly self-serving for hinself. Collect (talk) 20:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

How tedious. As is clear, I have not "interpolated" any material (interpolate: 1: to alter or corrupt (as a text) by inserting new or foreign matter 2: to insert (words) into a text or into a conversation). I have copied and pasted the thread exactly as it unfolded. I have not altered it in any way. In fact I have undone two alterations made to the thread by Collect: I restored two posts that he deleted, apparently to bolster his false claims and accusation. I have added some observation and analysis after, and completely separate from, the text of the thread.

Collect, you have shown that you've come here to peddle more distortions and innuendo. That behaviour is not welcome here. If you wish to respond to my post here (i.e. of the thread that you altered to support your unfounded personal attack, which you still fail to support with any diffs despite my numerous requests), please do so in the appropriate section of your RfC's discussion page. Fyi I shall summarily delete any future posts you make here, regardless of their content. Writegeist (talk) 21:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Buster Baiting

@Editor:WG. Thank you for providing a place for Collect to rant. Since much of the above is about me, I am surprised that Collect has not visited my talk page. Don't mis-understand...he is NOT welcome at my Talk Page either.

He is well aware that you and I, along with dozens of other editors, spent months together at Talk:Sarah. We read each others edits and agreed or disagreed. Some made us laugh...some brought us to tears of frustration. Editors:Factchecker and GreekParadise, even Editors:Ferrylodge and Freid, earned my respect, if not for their tactics, at least for their presentation. This is true of MOST of the editors envolved at SARA.

Collect is not on my list of editors that I refer to as WikiFriends. His loss.--Buster7 (talk) 16:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Retraction please, Collect

Collect, I have been patient with your personal attacks on me. I have merely noted them, protested them, refuted them and once, IIRC, made a request for you to withdraw them which you ignored. I have made allowances: the stress of your RfC/U; the interactions at Sarah Palin long ago; my long-ago rude remarks to other editors etc., etc. I have given you the benefit of every possible doubt, and hoped that you might simply give up these unwarranted attacks of your own volition.

Now you produce this post [14] -- the latest in your string of unsubstantiated accusations of sock- and meatpuppetry -- which clearly insinuates that user:Brendan19 is my sockpuppet. So it seems that these gratuitous personal attacks will very likely continue unless something is done to stop them.

Hitherto, as I said, I’ve resisted taking steps beyond protesting and refuting your numerous and ongoing accusations. Now, for the last time, I ask you to post a retraction to your Talk page. Writegeist (talk) 16:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Your threats are duly noted. I have earnestly sought to make no personal attacks on you, and apologize if you feel that the statements are personal attacks. Thank you most kindly. Collect (talk) 17:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Explanation....Collect takes zero responsibility for making personal attacks. His apology is for something you are doing....(feeling)....rather than something he is doing...(attacking).... Sound familiar? BTW...Happy Mothers Day....(Thats code for "Happy Mothers Day")--Buster7 (talk) 03:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely. Not a retraction; a waste of space. "Happy Mothers Day" Ha ha! :~) Writegeist (talk) 06:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

At that time (2009), were you aware that the respondent (here) made reference, @ WP:Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance/Archive 62, to his un-founded and false claim that we insinuated he was a sock of Kelly and other Palin editors???? Also, User talk:Scramblecase is worth a chuckle.```Buster Seven Talk 07:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes indeedy. And I'd forgotten the darned Scramblecase account. Oh joy! Its sudden arrival on the scene, and its blatancy, gave me a good laugh. (Not least this hilarious affectation of hurt pride: "On a side note: no offense meant to Collect, but as a published, professional writer, I'm somewhat unnerved by Ratel's assertion that I 'am' Collect, having now seen a sampling of Collect's writing style." The "professional writer" bit piqued my interest and I tried to believe it--but not for long, because Scramblecase soon disclosed that what he wrote for a living was just computer code.) Seems the darned account was conveniently lost at the laundromat shortly afterwards, never to reappear <g>... Beers (and sorry if the <g> is, er, "outre" (sic) or "non-utile"), Writegeist (talk) 23:53, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

One more before closing time

I hope you don't mind my post re:Collect's RfC. I referred to you as a Wikifriend there. I hope you don't mind that either.

"I plan on addressing the concerns raised and working to improve in the next several months".....an anonomous editor.

Had the redactor in question expressed this sentiment I could nurture conciliation. We saw NO hint of it!--Buster7 (talk) 23:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind your post at all, and neither do I mind the Wikifriend reference, as (1) it reflects the fact that we have a cordial editing relationship here and (2) I consider us both friends of the Wiki project -- another meaning that's implicit in the term. I agree it's sad that not even a scintilla of the cited sentiment has been expressed. While its absence is all too predictable in light of so much past performance, it's also tiresome to have the prediction confirmed over and over again by the resolute refusal to reform. However I like to think that one or two admins may be keeping watch. . .

If so, they will see that little, if anything, has changed. E.g. the persistent attacks about sockpuppetry. And e.g. also here. Incidentally it looks like Manticore has a good handle on the shenanigans there. :~) Thank you for dropping by! Writegeist (talk) 07:37, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Cheers........

..........--Buster7 (talk) 17:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Manticore55 (talk) 20:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Thanks. I do what I can but I'm not going to fight a dozen paid staffers and their army of clones. :) But I'll do what I can.

collect

You are involved in a recently-filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#edit warring by collect and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Requesting Arbitration;
• Wikipedia:Arbitration guide.

Thanks,--Brendan19 (talk) 19:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for catching that deletion attempt, Write. Factchecker atyourservice (talk) 19:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! I know you'd do the same for me . . . Writegeist (talk) 23:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

NOT Republican Red

		The Red Barnstar
		Roses are red...so is this star. We are all so lucky, that you are who you are. Your adult playfulness is refreshing. Its like a classy Burlesque show. When added to you insightfulness and perception of situations it is a pleasure to observe.--Buster7 (talk) 02:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Collect

Please see my comments at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Collect. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Darko Trifunović problems again

I noticed you had recently reverted some vandalism at Darko Trifunović. Could you please take a look at WP:AN/I#Darko Trifunović? I think we need to get this issue sorted for good. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Checkuser has confirmed that DT is responsible for the IP vandalism. I've raised the matter at WP:AE#Darko Trifunovic. -- ChrisO (talk) 07:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

George Carlin Quote

"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

— George Carlin

Thank you Buster! I'll pass it on to my mother, she's a great Carlin fan. Belated thanks also for that gorgeous red barn star and the kind thoughts. Back at ya! (Careful, we're in danger of High Fives now.) I just heard news that SP is resigning from her hugely important job of looking out of the window to warn the Amairkins of any clapped-out old Russian bombers trying to trundle in over the tundra and under the radar. Apparently she wants to make a play for the even more important post (yes, it seems there is one) of 'Great Republican Decider You Betcha' in 2012. Not being a great decider myself I'm not sure whether this move is extremely funny or deeply scary. Both? Some of our old friends at the article will already be in danger of stroking out from excitement at the prospect of the sainted, unblinking Sarah buying a few truckloads of cheesy new Neiman Marcus outfits, reopening Gitmo and sending Katie Curic there. Take care. Writegeist (talk) 22:16, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

• • Can I get your input at User:Buster7/Incivility
  • Also, suggest you take a look at WP:Civility/Poll
    • Interesting...[15]
      • Will coincidences never cease!!!! [16] I once owned a Chevy Vega (hot little #)...and, then, LessVHTY, a great admin shows up.

Haha, you're a brave man to make a public admission of ever owning a Chevy Vega :~) . But hey, I had two Trabants . . . I will check out your Incivility thoughts; also the poll. Been away and just got back, so catching up. Apropos of nothing: Owner to dog: "Sit!" Dog to owner: "Oh - bad news?" Writegeist (talk) 09:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Threat from Long Island IP

I'm gonna tell you something mister. I can't wait to get to the conference. Hopefully there's gonna be some changes. YOU are hurting this site. Just wait.71.167.61.206 (talk) 12:05, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Long Island IP, as you can see I have created a new section for the post which you had appended to the George Carlin section above. When you post about a new subject, always start a new section. Meanwhile I urge you to step away from the computer and take what looks to be a much-needed rest. Writegeist (talk) 18:21, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Vegavairbob (and Co.?)

Hi, Writegeist. I'm having a little trouble parsing the message you left me; can't tell if I'm under- or over-thinking. Obviously VVB still doesn't get it. There's an added new twist in the sudden appearance of 71.167.61.206 (talk · contribs), who left you a threat (as I type this it's ↑just above↑), did a very VVB-like revert with no edit summary of Chevrolet Vega (thus reinstating POV material, ungrammatical text, overly-long captions, forced thumb sizes, spelling errors and other deliciousness), and made a couple of VVB-like edits to (surprise!) Talk:Straight-four engine. I did a quick IP2location check; can you guess where 71.167.61.206 resolves to? Right: Long Island. A lot of people live there…including Vegavairbob. Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice said. —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C16:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

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Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar! The Four Deuces (talk) 13:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Well deserved! Writegeist (talk) 08:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeesh

Hi, Writegeist. Take a look here and here. —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C14:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

…and especially here. —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C05:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

"And lo, as it was written so it hath come to pass: Vega, who did scorn the warnings of the children of Wikipedia, nay and of the elders also, did go forth and dwell with the tribe of Sock, and wert banished from ye House of LessHeardvanU . . ." Writegeist (talk) 08:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Toss one sock in the dryer, another pops right up… —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C19:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Farmer? Writegeist (talk) 22:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm thinkin'. Not quite clear on how exactly to expand the existing SPI, but it looks like I need to enter Vegavairbob in the field that requests CheckUser. —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C23:02, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks right (not that I have a clue), the way you've done it. Writegeist (talk) 02:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Writegeist!

It's nice to hear from you again. While we've often had opposing viewpoints in the past, I've always enjoyed your special brand of humor and insight from a different point of view. Not just serving as a break in the monotony, your good humor is always laced with "something to think about" for the rest of us, and I thank you for that. Zaereth (talk) 23:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Zaereth! Warm greetings. A pleasure to have your company for a moment or two at my humble talk page! I must say I enjoyed our exchanges, and have reason to be grateful for your sporting generosity where others took a more censorious view.

Incidentally of late I seem to have quite lost the knack of getting blocked. Lack of protein in the diet, I reckon.

You and I evidently have a common interest in flying fighters, and I much enjoyed your piece on dogfighting. I had an uncle who died (still in his teens) in his Hurricane in the WW2 Malta campaign. More prosaic, as an erstwhile ultralight pilot myself I've always found it poignant that in the slow-moving melées of 30 or 40 aircraft which were not uncommon in WW1 the greatest dangers were from (1) bumping into someone and (2) stalling near the ground.

Anyway, a very pleasant surprise bumping into you here, and thank you for your kind words. I look forward to meeting again in the skies over another WP article! Writegeist (talk) 09:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, fighter planes, swords, and lasers are some of my big interests. Does it show that I grew up a Star Wars fan?

There is an interesting quote from the Red Baron in his book, where he describes the mid-air collision that killed Boelke, "Suddenly I noticed an unnatural movement of the two German flying machines. Immediately I thought: Collision. I had not yet seen a collision in the air. I had imagined that it would look quite different. In reality, what happened was not a collision. The two machines merely touched one another. However, if two machines go at the tremendous pace of flying machines, the slightest contact has the effect of a violent concussion." It's an interesting autobiography, at http://www.richthofen.com/ .

Aside from that, a few planes, such as the Sopwith Camel, had a rotating engine that created a huge amount of gyroscopic force. This caused the plane to move 90^o off of the stick movement. (eg: to turn right the pilot would push forward on the stick, and to dive the stick would have to be moved to the left.) More pilots were killed during take off in these planes than in combat.

I look forward to seeing you around wikiland, Writegeist. Keep your pitch up and rudder straight! Zaereth (talk) 18:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Bless you for birthday wishes (with flaming candles:)

Birthday wishes (and kind words re diffs) much appreciated.

• re diffs etc: Without your plot twist (re CIV), the "story" would not have been half as interesting ... or clear. :) I.E., if not for your comment, hard to imagine that "interesting" topic at AN would have appeared. :)

• re legal writing (must be sonnetized:) Oh, and if you missed it, I composed a sonnet about the resolution posted here. :)

• Big picture: This is a great little study (a few days span in the context of current events wrangling) ... which illuminates a lot of issues, and hence worth my pausing to extract the juice from it ... and a much better story because of your unexpected comment ... which helped structure the story beautifully. etc etc :)

Cheers. Proofreader77 (talk) 21:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:NODRAMA reminder

Thanks for signing up for the Great Wikipedia Dramaout. Wikipedia stands to benefit from the improvements in the article space as a result of this campaign. This is a double reminder. First, the campaign begins on July 18, 2009 at 00:00 (UTC). Second, please remember to log any articles you have worked on during the campaign at Wikipedia:The Great Wikipedia Dramaout/Log. Thanks again for your participation! --Jayron32.talk.say no to drama 21:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint, but I had second thoughts and withdrew. I found I just didn't feel comfortable as part of something quite so, well, worthy. (And I have a deeply ingrained Groucho Marxist aversion to clubs.) But I appreciate the worthiness of those who are made of sterner stuff. Needless to say I dread the question from my future grandchildren: "What did you do in the Great Wikipedia Dramaout, gramps?" Writegeist (talk) 02:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Debt

Thank you! I am indeed indebted to you for your tweaking of that Barnstar. If my humble self can ever assist you in any way, please just let me know. Thanks again and happy editing, Doc Tropics 16:48, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Glad to be of help and it gave me a good laugh. :~) Writegeist (talk) 17:22, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Kosher Ham Sandwich-

Awhile back, amidst other documentation, you left ""...wittily redolent of John Stonehouse's attempted vanishing act"". A visit to that page shows a photo from "Private Eye" with the caption Missing Member Held.................. My question----->Is it possible to hold a missing member? --Buster7 (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

No, not unless you're Lorena Bobbitt. On the other, er, hand I believe it is possible to hold a policeman's ball once a year. But only if you're very, very brave. Incidentally I just checked out the sainted fishwife after a long time away. It's even more hilarious now than I'd dared hope -- an object lesson in the long-term comic benefits of giving the fans total freedom to do her entirely their own way. Articles like that are so much more fun when they're funny. And the main picture is a hoot to boot! Writegeist (talk) 08:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Zaklopaca

Thanks for the message, Writegeist. I'm afraid I'm a Facebook-phobic, so I'm grateful for the reference. I've seen other pictures about the burial of the remains from the mass grave but I'd not seen that moving compilation before. Nida who posted it I assume to be the same person as NIDa who commented at Srebrenica Genocide Blog, correcting the author about the age of the youngest victim, a little girl who wasn't five years old, but three - she was NIDa's cousin. There were another nine children among the victims. The Zaklopaca killings are among the atrocities that Radovan Karadzic was charged with.

I try to be as honest as I know because basically the reality speaks for itself. It doesn't need any trickery or embellishment. My big problem is that after years and years of dealing with the misrepresentations and denials, I do occasionally lose my temper. Fortunately in a way, not so in others, the ICJ judgment in 2007 ended a lot of the "chaff" deployment. Unfortunately Karadzic's upcoming trial seems to have resulted in a new apologist effort.

Cinema C seems to have been honestly motivated, just not as well informed as he might have been. Opbeith (talk) 12:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. I have created the Čemerno massacre article, which is one of the few massacres of Serbs during the Bosnian war currently described on Wikipedia. I understand that most of the massacres were against Bosniaks, but I always think of the uninformed reader - if he or she is to stumble upon the Bosnian war template, that person should not get the impression that only Serbs and Croats were committing atrocities. There is currently not a single massacre against Croats in Bosnia described on Wikipedia. The Bosniak forces (not to mention the Mujahedeen who came in their aid) were not "angels" in this war. --Cinéma C 20:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Čemerno massacre

Thanks for the message. I'm afraid I won't be able to help any time soon - I'm going on holiday in a few hours' time - but the massacre was certainly a real event (see this contemporary NY Times article). I'll see what I can do when I get back, since I should have time then to look at more archival news sources. -- ChrisO (talk) 07:57, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

FYI

[[17]] I'm never sure which is secret---> the balls or the policemen. Any Ideas?--Buster7 (talk) 13:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings to you and yours

--Buster7 (talk) 11:52, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hi Writegeist! Long time no see. I hope this holiday season brings you much joy and happiness. Zaereth (talk) 00:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Greetings Zaereth! Good to hear from you, and hope you'll have a very happy and prosperous 2010. Writegeist (talk) 22:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

The Secret Policeman’s Third Ball

The third ball was held March 26-29,1987. I'm not sure where the other balls were held....or for how long.--Buster7 (talk) 23:57, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello Buster! Just how many balls does this secret policeman possess? Or to put it another way, how many secret balls does this policeman possess? Here's hoping 2010 brings you happiness, prosperity, and a flak jacket (for visits to the temple talk page of the Palinites). Writegeist (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Palinites

As the effort to canonize our beloved "Maid of the North" continues I am perplexed at my inability to see the halo. Your good tidings and well wishes are returned in kind.--Buster7 (talk) 15:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I think we can relax. All is well. I had a quick look and I'm pretty sure halo-polishing has been restored to its former highly energetic level at Eskimo Nell's talk page. The Russians report that once again they can clearly see the golden glow when they squint into The Sainted One's back yard. It might be fake tan of course but let's AGF. Oh joy. Writegeist (talk) 08:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

And additional hilarious developments now at the "Controversies Section" section of The Sainted One's talk, where one Bonewah has furiously accused me of having accused one Malke (who argued for a controversies section in Obama but against one in Palin, lol) of some kind of relationship with a hippopotamus. Oh my ribs. Gotta love the Palinites! :~) Writegeist (talk) 06:46, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Talking of The Sainted One's champions, this [18] will amuse you when you see whose advice the sysop is seeking re. a block. :~) Writegeist (talk) 22:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

very keen

Let me tell you something...with the amount of time I spend making some of these car articles worthy of this site with no gratitude whatsoever, the last thing I need is to waste time reading your comments. (Vegavairbob (talk) 03:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC))

Siege of Sarajevo gallery

Hello,

The gallery in the article was quite large and Wikipedia policy re. galleries is that they be appropriately used. I created a Commons gallery of the exact same images, all of which are already on Commons, and linked to it, so those images are still available as they were on the article. --BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 01:08, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

In the External links section you will see a template that says "Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Siege of Sarajevo". --BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 07:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

email

check it.Malke2010 06:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

No, I shall delete it without reading. I have no interest in any concealed communication with you. Anything you want to say, say it here in the open; or if it's a reply to my post at Sarah Palin talk, please reply there. Thank you. Writegeist (talk) 07:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Username

Just wanted you to know that I think yours is awesome.--~TPW 19:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

How kind. Thank you, it feels good to be appreciated. But I have to say, usernames don't come any more awesome than True Pagan Warrior! Writegeist (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Tee hee. A username is a combination of inspiration and availability, and this one took some balancing to get right!--~TPW 19:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

FYI

Just thought you would like to be informed.[[19]] All's well, I hope. wwAs--Buster7 (talk) 02:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Way back when you had a discussion with SBJohnny about a sockpuppet accusation that a so-called editor was making about you. I think Lars got involved. Do you recall the result and can you share the info? That same editor is making false claims on other pages regarding editors that were involved in an RfC a while back. wwAs--Buster7 (talk) 22:09, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Greetings good Sir, and I hope all is well. I dimly recollect a user from the prehistoric Palinite era making repeated tendentious accusations of socking. I've checked the fossil record. The only imprint I can find that remotely resembles what I have in mind is here: [20] . I'm hugely surprised of course to learn that the user referenced in the linked dialogue is repeating the same behaviour. Anyway, here's hoping the link is of some use. Writegeist (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

When is consensus bullying?

I feel as though I am being bullied out of Wikipedia when all I do for the most part is qualitatively improve articles by adding citations. I have a group of malign editors that have formed a cohort against me. They have searched really hard to find a few matters of dispute out of my 20,000 or more edits that I have made to this Project. I would appreciate some of your time.
B9 hummingbird hovering ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Changes

Thanks, this will really help. 842U (talk) 21:48, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. BTW, kudos to you for a great job on The Art of Racing in the Rain. Writegeist (talk) 00:05, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanksgiving

Imagine how surprised I was to see that one of the turkeys had returned just in time for Thanksgiving Day. Best to you and yours.Buster7 (talk) 03:04, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah yes, that distinctly toxic old bird. Long past its cull-by date, surely? Sorry to acknowledge your kind wishes so tardily (I have only just seen your message). Nevertheless they are strongly reciprocated. Keep up the good work! I have all but given up. Writegeist (talk) 05:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

creative writing

In a flurry of thought, I've come up with a flow of words. A combination of Seal Skin Oil and Human Tears. I can't find the right article to use them in. Any ideas? The start of a haiku, perhaps?...Buster7 (talk) 05:46, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

A combination of seak-skin oil and human tears,

dripping from isolated bridges paid for by peers,

pursuing popularity or tragedy, whichever rears

itself from the tundra...Buster Seven Talk 21:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Writegeist. You have new messages at AndyTheGrump's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Magi: Lost Kings or Aliens w/ GPS

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.

Happy Holidays, my friend! Buster Seven Talk 08:14, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

'Tis the Season...

Another year goes by... Happy Crimble! Fcreid (talk) 19:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Hey Writegeist, sorry I missed you at Christmas, but I was rushed to get out of town. I hope it was a good one. I just wanted to wish you a great new year. Zaereth (talk) 03:32, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

A Dry Sense of Humor

I protest the pro-Palin protectors "polishers" pharmacists whose pleasure it is to pummel and prevent any perceived protaganist or non-pro-Palin pretender or pompous plagarist from polluting, profaning or otherwise proliferating any preposterous procrastinations to promote purile and provocative pronouncements over the protestations of said prudent patriots whose sole purpose is to proceed, protect, and proliferate a poised progression toward a state of purity and perfection at the Sara Palin article and here.

• In a fit of pique I wrote the above and attached it to Talk:Public image of Sarah Palin.

I admit that using "pro-Palin protectors" may have been a bit harsh. I should have remembered how sensitive some editors can be. But, I had searched for another 'P' word (a prerequisite) that might fit. I promise...I really did! I found peasants but I didnt think that would work. Pheasants came to mind. Same with peddlers, pedestrians, players, philistines, pharisees, phonies, ponies, and pietist's. Now, granted, I should have assumed good faith and worked at soothing my ill will. But, I admit my hostility got the better of me and I continued my search. I settled on "pharmacists". I don't see how anyone can be offended by being called a pharmacist. It is a noble profession. As a side-bar, I'm concerned that the members of the Save Sara Committee have lost their sense of humor. As a consolation, tho, I hope other editors got a laugh chuckle from my indulgence. Have a good day.Buster Seven Talk 16:14, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Palin

Thanks for your message. I think you're right that the article will be seen for what it is by most people, I'm annoyed at myself for getting involved . Still, live and learn. Sayerslle (talk) 20:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

@Writegeist. I seemed to have stepped on Sayerslle toes and sensitivity and he is upset with me. I probably shouldn't care and just keep moving forward. But, the oddest thing happened. He communicated with you and gave me an opening. Can you tell him what a wonderful, honest, friendly, humorous, _______________ (fill in the blank) AGF editor I am. (Easy on the sarcasm). Thanks.Buster Seven Talk 22:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Mon message, You know...I thought exactly that...in training, ready for the diploma. I was gonna tell ""don't be such a prude"..I but feered fer me nuts. And from such a "young-un no less! Defend Us From the Protectors for Their Cause is Righteous.

WP:CIVILITY

[21] This wasn't acceptable. Please read WP:CIVILITY.Jasper Deng (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC).

According to a report issued last Monday, WP does not need this right now, although it is possible that it may be worth considering at some point in the future. The report implies that it may take quite a while for something to be done about this and that it could be years before some action is revisited. Setting aside the countless practical obstacles and the prohibitive expense, WE (Wikipedia Editors) just don't know enough about this to justify the time and expense to move forward at the present time. This should be entirely out of the question for now. It is also widely agreed that this will have to take a backseat to more pressing issues that WE can actually wrap our heads around and try to do something about. I'm sure you realize that editors in nearly every field, including economics, entertainment, pharmocology, Randian philosophy, macrobiotic nutrition, finance, robotics, oncology and animal husbandry concurred with the report, saying that the worst course of action would be to enter into this without being fully and completely prepared for the inevitable. However, contrary to the growing communal consensus, there is a small but vocal minority that has come out in favor of getting this underway ASAP. The consensus seems to be that now is not the time and WE are just not ready for this yet. WE should all approach this with extreme caution knowing full well the historic examples of veteran editors who are not optimistic about this being an option in the foreseeable future. As a fellow veteran editor, I hope you concur and see that not is not the time or the place to answer any questions about it altogether. Anything less would lead to problems that are just to frank and WE may be getting ahead of ourselves by even talking about it. Cheers! Buster Seven Talk 07:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I still hold fast to the above. Nothing has changed. While it may still be a fact, there are editors that opine for exactly the opposite course of action. Their freedom should in no way be restricted nor should any avenue of potential success be closed to them. As all editors know, should they consider it, the winds of change are always at the door. But it is up to a relatively minute few (admins) as to whether the knock on the door is answered. I would suggest, as I said, holding fast to the way things are. Granted that change is inevitable but there is no reason to embrace it. Or to reject it. While there may growing community consensus for what is stated, there is just as much community consensus for the complementary stand. Hopefully, dialougue will continue among those interested and the commotion will not endanger the structure. Buster Seven Talk 15:34, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Things have changed. The knock on the door has been answered. And what walked in was a sight to behold! While at first glance it seemed dark and foreboading, given further observation, it wasn't so unpleasant. In a most un-remarkable verbal duel, I had to bite my toungue rather than resort to some contemptuous phallic wordplay that would have surely landed me in the brig. The notorious excesses of the Ediot in question must have provoked my "drawing of the longbow". Astonishingly, to the casual reader that is unaware that intended tactlessness is the slyest of all forms of social cruelty, what the shame of the obligatory condition shows is . The user, in abstentia, may eventually have his day in court but it won't be by my hand.

Barnstar

		The Friendship Barnstar
		For your most excellent efforts in friendship towards your fellow Wikipedians, User:Buster7 would like to award you the Barnstar of Friendship. (note: This is one of the very first, and original, "Friendship Barnstar" to be awarded)

Why, thank you good Sir. You seem to know something about me that I don't :~) . But coming as it does from a veteran and gentlemanly Wikipedian who would never be so vulgar or vain as to seek admindinghy let alone full-blown adminship, the compliment is much appreciated. On another matter: it occurs to me that it makes no discernible difference whether officious juveniles consign their tiny crown jewels to commodious boxers or overly tight briefs. Either way they tend to be shrill. Writegeist (talk) 05:40, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I could not have said it better!Buster Seven Talk 06:41, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice Koekjes

Buster7 has given you a Nice Koekjes which promote fellowship, goodwill and WikiLove. Hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the good flavor of Nice Koekjes around Wiki World by giving someone else one. Maybe to a friend or, better yet, to someone you have had disagreements with in the past. Nice Biscuits are very tasty and have been known to calm even the most savage beast. Enjoy! Buster Seven Talk

I just created this. I know. It's surprisingly civilized and decent. I don't know whats come over me. I almost sent it to User:'you-know-who'. I resisted but I'm not sure for how long. Maybe its something in the tea I've been drinking. Its made in Alaska, distributed in Nebraska, and marketed by a couple of guys known as "the Koch Brothers". It's remarkably addictive but I think my brain is shrinking. Or...Maybe my cranium is enlarging!Buster Seven Talk 08:22, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

For Giving Your Two Cents Worth

		Cents for Sense
		Sometimes two cents is worth alot more than it seems. But, more important is what you do with the other 98 cents. Thanks for giving yours and providing some insight into The Wondeful World of Sarah. BTW, don't get used to all these accolades and banners and whatnot. I just needed someones talk page to practice on. Just kidding, of course. You're #1 in my book...of course my book is an empty sketchpad, TC. ~!Buster Seven Talk

OK! I'm Guilty! Here's the Truth. This "two cent" banner was actually a bribe. I'd like to know your two cents at Wikipedia:Wiki Guides/Welcome new users. Thanks. TRA!Buster Seven Talk 22:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bosniaks: Images of notable Bosniaks for the Template:Bosniaks infobox

Please, join the discussion.

Regards, --Wustenfuchs 12:01, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

What?

Did not understand your post on my talk page. Are you talking about the Barnstar? 842U (talk) 01:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I was not clear. It refers to your post at Chevrolet Vega talk: "The article no longer conforms to anything close to Wikipedia standards; nor has it been created in the spirit of cooperation that is a prerequisite of Wikipedia. It is an exercise in puffery, one the astute reader can easily discern." Writegeist (talk) 01:42, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Gotcha, thanks!842U (talk) 16:14, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Missed you!

-* Fcreid (talk) 23:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

8/9 Contributions

How dare you take it upon yourself to make these changes. Have you passed them by the Even If Its True We Will Find A Way To Exclude It Committee? I have not bothered to take the time to fully examine your recent changes but, based on your past history, I am sure you have something subversive in mind. "light rewording....and greater clarity." Really??? TRA...Buster Seven Talk

Sincere apologies, it's true that the changes were subversive, because the source for the changes was entirely the WP SP article, which of course is notoriously unreliable. Also true, I failed to follow the procedure in WP:WHY-WRITEGEIST-MUST-NOT-BE-ALLOWED-TO-EDIT-THE-SAINTED-SARAH, which is to say the non-procedure protocol. And I completely forgot to run it by the Even If It's True We Will Find A Way To Exclude It Committee, or even the Especially If It's True We Will Find A Way To Exclude It Committee.

User:BZBody is surely about to drag it onto the WP co-founder's talk page, where BZBody will complain that it infringes WP:COATRACK, WP:HATRACK, WP:TIERACK, WP:SHOERACK, WP:NICERACK, WP:TORTURERACK, WP:RACKANDPINIONSTEERING and WP:CRACKRACK, and my clean rack record will be forever besmirched. Woe is me! Writegeist (talk) 21:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Courtesy notice

Thanks for your note. I wonder what our "attitudes" are supposed to be.   Will Beback  talk  01:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Well I took no part in the discussions and expressed no views on the outcome - clearly a reprehensible attitude. And you, equally deplorable, are guilty of unshakable equanimity in your interactions there regardless of provocation. Apparently, displaying no attitude is evidence of an undesirable attitude. Writegeist (talk) 04:42, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Murder_of_James_Craig_Anderson#Requested_move

Since you voted "keep" in the AfD, and what the AfD meant is in discussion, I though I would let you know about it Talk:Murder_of_James_Craig_Anderson#Requested_move.--Cerejota ^{If you reply, please place a {{talkback}} in my talk page if I do not reply soon.} 05:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Math and Will Beback

Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:33, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Conservatism

TFD is an incisive, knowledgeable, productive and constructive editor who values - and demonstrates - intellectual rigour above ideology, and who has already made valuable contributions to the project's talk page. The reactions of certain other editors give cause for concern about WP:OWNership issues, and imply a strategy to gag and/or drive off an editor who is not, as Thatcher might have put it, "one of us." The admonishments, and the wholly unwarranted accusation of trolling (an egregious personal attack) are inappropriate, and far from conducive to a collegial editing environment. They would be best deleted or struck. If anyone seriously thinks an editor is being disruptive, take it to the appropriate forum (which isn't the project's talk page). Put up or shut up. Writegeist (talk) 02:15, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong: he's a good editor. But it appears he may not play well with others. 1 question: have you read the talk page archives? – Lionel ^(talk) 02:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I have watched the page since the project's inception and followed the relevant discussions. Writegeist (talk) 02:53, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Writegeist's view on this. --Kleinzach 04:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Troll (internet): a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.

I found these with a glance at the archives and the MFD:

1. "merge them all into a politics project"[22] -- his suggestion would've resulted in the elimination of WPConservatism
2. "there is no reason for a project [conservatism to exist]"[23]
3. "Sounds good. We can eject Reagan and Thatcher"[24] -- extremely divisive
4. "Supporters of the Conservative Party may consider it offensive that we are grouping them with Sarah Palin"[25] -- creating a wedge between British & Americans
5. "an airhead American politician"[26] -- inflamatory remark referring to Palin

These 5 clear examples of trolling should satisfy you. They establish a pattern. Let me know if you need more examples. – Lionel ^(talk) 08:09, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

No. This is trolling.

As I already said, I have followed the project's discussions. Please don't post - at least not here - any more "troll" smears about TFD. The attitude you convey at the project's talk page tends towards downright nastiness when contributions that raise valid points present you with intellectual challenges and expose the fact that the project is not yet fully thought out. (I'll spare you my thoughts on your posts in the wake of the MfD.) There's no shame in the thinking behind the project being less than fully formed - it's in its infancy. But your reaction to having its shortcomings pointed out is a real shame (for you), because your hostility doesn't bode well for the project's future. It seems that being challenged makes you uncomfortable, and you take offence. Your instinct, it seems, is to reach for the ad hominems, and to complain (btw I note you don't have the balls to take your complaints to a noticeboard), e.g. about TFD driving wedges between Brits and Americans etc. (In fact, to take just that point alone, it's a racing certainty that Conservative Party supporters will find it offensive to be grouped with Palin, as anyone familiar with British politics would know.)

And now you are pursuing the same smear tactics here. Please stop.

I respectfully suggest it would better serve the project if you focus more on your behaviour and less on TFD's. And also if you read WP:OWN, and learn more about "Conservatism". Then you'll be ready to knuckle down to some genuine, properly inclusive collaboration - without which the project will founder, and your regrettable and wholly unwarranted post-MfD triumphalism will look even sillier and uglier. Oops, sorry, I was going to spare you that! Writegeist (talk) 19:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

For the record I was directed here, and then challenged to "put up or shut up." I obliged. FYI I am not the only editor who takes issue with TFD's behavior, admittedly the most vocal, and other editors characterize his behavior as trolling. Your "note" is inaccurate: I did report TFD to a noticeboard... 2 days ago I reported him to ANI for his Palin insult. Since you expressed interest in my genitalia, my testicles are quite huge. Some might say humongous. In any event I act in the best interest of the project. Always. If I need to report behavior to a noticeboard I will not hesitate.– Lionel ^(talk) 21:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations on your testicular fortitude! I'm appropriately awed, and I sincerely apologize for the underestimation. I note that your super-ballsy thread at ANI was closed without a single post in support of your accusation, which was variously deemed "not actionable", "not libel", "not even close", "not actionable", and "neither libelous, nor . . . offensive". (Never mind, it's hugely - one might almost say humongously - in your favour that you were not directed to WP:DICK.) Furthermore, your posts at the project talk page contradict the claim that you always act in the best interest of the project - but apparently you can't see that. Similarly, and evidently, you just don't get it where "trolling" is concerned: here as at ANI, you have failed to put up any evidence that validates your accusation, which remains nothing better than a gratuitous personal attack. Time to shut up now (on that subject, at least). Good luck with the project. Writegeist (talk) 00:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

You have a great sense of humor! Something sorely lacking around here. I appreciate your sincerity, even though we don't see eye to eye. Thanks and good luck to you, too. TTFN – Lionel ^(talk) 01:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

You too Lionel - I enjoy your dry humour. Therefore may I commend this splendid publication to you? It is produced expressly for the delectation of the fortunate few among us who are blessed with gargantuan gentlemen's appurtenances and an appreciation of coarse tweed. Indeed Mrs. Writegeist always remembers to give me a copy of The Chap at Christmas, so that I may keep abreast of the latest advances in male grooming, sock suspenders and tweed headgear. The Chap, I find, is the gift that most elegantly complements the tube of Badcock and Gusset Extra-Firm Moustache Wax which Mrs. W. tucks into my Christmas stocking. Quite the rascal after a brace of Christmas Eve eggnogs, she deftly conceals it under a large pouch of Madame Veronika's Hand-Rubbed Latvian Reserve Old Shag tobacco for my trusty briar.

Rest assured, a warm welcome and a hot toddy (sadly not to be confused with a hot totty - one of the curses of this being a family encyclopaedia) always await you here. Writegeist (talk) 03:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Vega

Nice work on Chevrolet Vega. We did have a pop at improving it earlier in the year, but one especially problematic editor turned it into the mother-of-all-edit-wars so a lot of us lost the will to carry on. See the article's talk page archive (which may even help you if you are suffering from insomnia or constipation). Luckily that person seems to have disappeared off the radar so now is probably a good time to get the article sorted out. Your changes are a very welcome start. --Biker Biker (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey Biker, thank you; good to hear from you. Ah, Bob. Yes. I remember. Even trying to fix the lead was like trying to start a Vega in winter. Maybe others will pitch in now and perform aditional lyposuction... Writegeist (talk) 18:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Nice work over the past few days. I carried on with your surgery this evening. I hope you think what I did is OK. --Biker Biker (talk) 00:16, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks BB. And kudos to you for your neat excisions and fixes.... Writegeist (talk) 07:14, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Have you lost your mind? You just added 15 bytes to the article. More of this and the article is in danger of becoming bloated! Seriously though, it is looking good now. What are your feelings about the Cosworth article? Do you think my proposal to merge should be abandoned now the main has been trimmed to almost normal standards, or do you think it gives the merger extra validity? I can't decided if I should withdraw the proposal / change my mind. --Biker Biker (talk) 22:09, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

OMG I've been hypnotized by a blocked user! Re. the merge, I fully supported it but now, like you, I'm not so sure. Maybe it works to have separate articles now? Are two reasonably slim ones better than a single fat one? I'll look over the Cosworth later, maybe tomorrow, and try to decide then. (I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure.) Writegeist (talk) 22:39, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the "citation fix" reminder. Done.842U (talk) 19:38, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Great cite! Writegeist (talk) 19:46, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Let's not fret

Someone wails that Nutley was "hounded". Come on. He was filleted---by a much sharper editor---after he carelessly outed one of his own socks. And then he threw it away, irreparably damaged. But let's not fret. Surely he'll soon take a break (from the book he says he's writing) to show off some smart new socks again? I like to think the book is about farming. Writegeist (talk) 08:34, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving, Writegeist!
As we all sit down at the dinner table and say our thanks today, I would like to give thanks to you for your wonderful contributions and wish you a very happy Thanksgiving. May your turkey, ham or beast of choice satiate you until next year! TRA! Buster Seven Talk 17:03, 22 November 2011 (UTC)}	A traditional Thanksgiving dinner.

A belated thank you, Buster. I was in England at the time, where they only give thanks for the summer - a day in August when the sun puts in a ten-minute appearance - and mushy peas, a marvellous invention for the dentally challenged. I've always been somewhat confused by the White Man giving thanks to people who have been dead for centuries mainly on account of the the White Man doing his damnedest to wipe them all out. Happy Christmas! Writegeist (talk) 23:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

A belated comment to your belated TY....The White Man sounds so ominous. We have alot to thank The White Man for at Thanksgiving. French style green beans for example. The ability to be blind to the beauties and uniqueness of other cultures thereby freeing up mental space for more IT stuff. Global warming...no more snow boots or those thick woolen coats and hats. TV...need I say more. So, the next time you cast aspersions at The White Man you should browse thru Alister Turnbuckles If You're not Albino. You're Not White. TRA!---Buster Seven Talk 15:44, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Archive Discovery

FYI: I found this while scrounging around early 2002 archives.

A Clandestine Meeting Of Wikipedia Administrators (Circa:1920)

Buster Seven Talk 17:50, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Linguistically and Lexiconically exuberant

I just miss-typed and created a new word. Ediot, (noun), one who edits in an incomprehensible manner. I could not understand a word that the ediot was saying. (adjective), His ediotic edits did not make any sense. I hope I can find somewhere to use it~!...Buster Seven Talk 21:53, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm finding it very hard to think of somewhere to use that word on Wikipedia where it wouldn't be, um, non-utile <g> . Cheers! Writegeist (talk) 08:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Donation

One is for your wit. The next is for your wisdom. The last is for your candor. Buster Seven Talk 14:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

fyi

Thank you for pointing that out. I had already commented to that editor about canvassing.[27] TFD (talk) 18:20, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

A Desolate Dawn

After dulling my senses with strong drink and with the supreme discomfort of "hot air" build up, I come to one of the few places I can rest in peace. Being of modest circumstances I cannot afford the necessary medicinals to truly protect me from the pestulence from the past. If I may temporarliy dwell here in convelescent wonderment at the changes you have made and ask a friendly question.....Can one man destroy another in the most delicate and secret places of his personal enjoyment?? Can a thorn be embedded so deeply in ones buttocks that it cannot be extracted?? Can pigs fly??? I feel a calmness sweep over me and the exasperation of conflict abide. Coming here was a splendid solution. Thanks to the stalker that suggested it. Buster Seven Talk 14:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Personal attack - scumbag tactics

Continuing discussion from your talk, Darkstar1st:

Another disingenuous post from you. You wrote that you regarded the matter of your scumbag personal attack as closed "pending...a new thought" on my part. Therefore you were clearly open to my posting new thoughts. I did so. (And now, of course, you complain I didn't understand your previous comment. I understood it perfectly well. If you meant something else you should have said something else.) Now to answer your whine about a personal attack: characterizing your lying, defamatory posts as "scumbag tactics" is not a personal attack; calling you a scumbag would be. Are you able to distinguish the difference? And to answer your whine that "blocked is a threat": informing another user that persistent personal attacks are blockable is hardly a threat. It's a simple statement of fact. (I have not threatened to take any action that might get you blocked. I think blocking is a total waste of time, and anyway puts way too much power in the hands of the more infantile administrators). I have treated you as an adult. An equal. I have not threatened you. I have called you on your dishonest personal attack. You have complained about some elephant in the room that upsets you. I note that you are persisting in your scumbag personal attack on TFD. That is all. Writegeist (talk) 01:11, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Here is the immediately preceding discussion, Darkstar1st, for your convenient reference:

New summary of your tactics (I'll try to make this simple for you):

(1) You posted the defamatory lie that TFD wrote the edit summary "Jesus fucking Christ". (2) You have repeatedly pretended that the lie is the truth, and you have pretended to furnish a supporting diff -- one that does not, in fact , support your lie in any way whatsoever. (3) Your lie is apparently intended to justify your own behaviour by dishonestly discrediting TFD. (4) You have been asked repeatedly to strike the lie, yet you have not done so. Therefore (5) you have made clear your intention to persist in this dishonesty, thus perpetuating (6) a derogatory lie which is a personal attack on TFD.

New thought: these are scumbag tactics and you can be blocked for the persistent personal attack. Is my thinking correct?

New thought on your alleged "elephant in the room": best you address questions for TFD and "other users" to TFD and other users. Writegeist (talk) 19:22, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Ear trumpet

If I listen through my trusty ear trumpet, I can hear the mirth and back-slapping at Newt HQ [28] ("The Lord made Adam. The Lord made Eve, He made 'em both a little naive." - E.Y.Harburg) Other health news: I'm told an acquaintance who suffers from incurable Boldface Tourettes had another apoplectic shouting fit earlier today. Oh dear, one worries so. Writegeist (talk) 18:57, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, well, we all commit forgivable sins. I had to go on medical leave for a short time. I had a rash all over my backside. I went to one of those good old country doctors, he found the source (that thorn I had mentioned a few days ago). He didnt remove it but gave me a cure for the blindness and black and blue marks that it was causing. His basic advice was to ignore it. I pointed out that I have been ignoring it. Especially when it begins to make that confusing medley of unintelligable sounds. But I'm better now. I have my feet up on the hassock, editing WP, Scotch in hand, Irish tabacco in the hukah, ballet slippers on....ooppss...forget that last part. A thought comes to mind about chasing a rabbit down a hole....hmmmmm...let me ponder....zzzzzzZZZZZZ!```Buster Seven Talk 20:56, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I hope I wasn't confusing - the mirth and the naivety are entirely to do with the highlighted part in the link. (I fully share your concerns.) Too early in the day for Scotch (for me, anyway) here in Swan Lake (pop. 50 swans) but I'll join you in a Bourbon later! You reminded me, I must see if I can still fit in my tutu. Writegeist (talk) 21:09, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Ear trumpet? Is that anything like the World Cup 2010#Vuvuzelas? Micro-managing political articles is of interest to User:Tvoz at "the third wife" article. Maybe we could start a Project. WP:WEAPON Wiki-Editors-Against-Paid-Operative-Nurturing. ```Buster Seven Talk 08:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

(sidebar:a legal term meaning off to the side where the jury can't here us talk about the more important issues of the case). Somewhere above you mentioned WP:NICERACK . I can not for the life of me find that page. Your assistance would be appreciated.(end sidebar) ```Buster Seven Talk 14:20, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Your wish is my command! WP:NICERACK Writegeist (talk) 18:35, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

OMG. I had another rack in mind. see how easy it is to mininterpret each other. Chores! ```Buster Seven Talk 22:58, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Pictures help so much in communication... Writegeist (talk) 00:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk Page Guidelines

I feel you have been slurred and your good reputation has been sullied. If you would like I can cap or hat or hide (whatever it's called) the attacks on your good name and editorial record. Much the same was done about a week ago, at that very same article, when Editor:Fat&Happy saw fit to remove my edits regarding Editor:Joedesantis and User:Collect. While the circumstances are slightly different since the cap/hat/hide removed an edit history that revealed the very canvassing claimed (and a ridiculous tete-te-te), the end result will be the same: these unfounded attacks will be removed to the history pages. Your call. Much like a grinch, I await your command!```Buster Seven Talk 05:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thought: I hope someday to depend on the substantiation of my edits by an editor with two edits: one edit in fact since the second was the defending (or offending based on your vantage point) edit in question. ```Buster Seven Talk 05:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Have a great day

My repeated presence here and constant "visiting" should, in NO way, be construed by other editors or "stalkers" as support, santioning or approving of anything you say or do; past, present and in the future. I DO support, sanction and approve of everything you do but thats not the point. Any appearance or interpretation or comment of a "mind-meld" situation is completely enigmatic and fabricated to subvert a normal intra-editorial relationship between cabal members individual WikiPedia Editors (WE). There is no Queen bee and I am not one of her workers. Now 'Mother Ant' is a different story!```Buster Seven Talk 13:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Cynic's guide

Hey - sorry, I've pretty much decided to leave Wikipedia or else greatly wind down my participation here, but I just noticed your post to my talk page (from 3 weeks ago). You're certainly welcome to cite, copy, or otherwise re-use the "Cynic's Guide to Wikipedia" from my userpage. Sorry for the delayed response, and happy editing. MastCell ^Talk 23:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your permission. I'm sorry you'll be making fewer contributions, and I hope they won't cease altogether. Best wishes. Writegeist (talk) 01:12, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Another One Bites the Dust. What the "F" is goin' on? ```Buster Seven Talk 19:53, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

About 'that'

"perhaps more useful here if she had taught English" - well put! Reichsfurst (talk) 19:52, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Lol! Thank you. I sympathized when I saw you got clobbered by reverts that looked rather like edit-warring to force the solecisms into the article. Many WP editors are strangers to WP:BRD. Many, as in this instance, seem determined to make others acquiesce to uninformed dogma. Common English usage in, say, Facebookistan is a pretty useless guide to what's appropriate for British and American encyclopedic content. However, as the gentleman's mother might say, Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis. So the Facebookistanis may prevail in the end. Writegeist (talk) 21:02, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

She might also say, "Eat your gruel before it gets cold." Eat your instant oatmeal would be more up-to-date.```Buster Seven Talk 16:40, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

My mother taught welding so I'm an authority in this instance: "Put your goggles on and eat your instant oatmeal before it gets cold or I'll apply the welding torch to your ear again." Writegeist (talk) 20:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

My Mother was a stone mason so I know a little about heavy objects: "If that porridge isn't done in 5 minutes, I'll drop this granite slab on your toes." ```Buster Seven Talk 20:33, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

My Father was a Roto-Rooter man. He would often say, "See that pipe. Your head would fit nicely inside it." ```Buster Seven Talk 13:52, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Not my brother. A neighbor's pet

One of my brothers is a part-time Tree Surgeon in Borneo. When visiting him, he will take me to a tall stand of trees and say "...Now stand right here. Don't move. And close your eyes. This won't hurt a bit." ```Buster Seven Talk 16:44, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

My younger sister is a nun. If I misbehave in her presence she warns, "Keep it up and I'll call Father Smith". ```Buster Seven Talk 07:57, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I know what I'm talking about when it comes to lifting alot of really heavy stuff because My Aunt (on my Fathers side) was a Sherpa. We have a tape (National Geographic) of her saying, "Damn. This shit is Heavy." ```Buster Seven Talk 06:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Not my Aunt. Famous Sherpa Tenzing Norgay. They may have dated.

My aunt is also a nun (coinkidink!). She can strike terror in my heart just by swinging her rosary and saying, "Stop that or I'll make you wear my wimple to Safeway again!" --Writegeist (talk) 05:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

What an extended "coinkidink". The same Aunt opened the first Safeway (with the help of government subsidies) in Saint Martin du Canigou. ```Buster Seven Talk 15:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The blue roof w/ the faded Safeway sign.

For some strange reason, I'm reminded of my Aunt's ex-husband...a real putz...until he got run over by a truck. His funeral was poorly attended. ```Buster Seven Talk 14:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

My ex-brother-in-law, Sal, has been married three times. He trades-in wives like they are used cars which fits since he is a used car salesman. His Advice? "Why drive an old Chevy when you can drive a new Probe." ```Buster Seven Talk 14:46, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Luckily for me I never met my uncle Derek, the 12th Lord Pratt (title inherited from a distant cousin). He was only married once, to auntie May. She didn't seem to mind, at least not to begin with, that he was cognitively challenged, or "barking mad" as they said back then (post-mortem examination revealed a brain the size of a chihuahua's, and missing some important bits). In 1959, returning to London from the north of England, where he'd gone to buy a ferret for reasons that remain obscure, he rather rashly (no pun intended) purchased a bacon sandwich from a roadside vendor. It gave him tummy-ache. Next day in the House of Lords he tabled a motion to nuke the sandwich stall - he said it was "obviously" operated by Russian agents on a mission to poison the House of Lords. Two members voted in support (one, senile but ever-helpful, said his brother could fly a Lancaster bomber). Some 300 opposed. Uncle Derek flew into hysterics, screeching that only the "support" votes should be counted. He had to be escorted out. Auntie May soon realized he wasn't very well, and locked him in his room. There he remained, eating the wallpaper and screeching obscenities. Auntie May told the neighbors she'd rescued a parrot from a pop singer. Writegeist (talk) 18:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

My family (on my Mothers side) has a long history (since the 17th Century) in the Low Countries in and around Antwerp. I'm convincxed that there exists a lock-box full of diamonds in the Flemish countryside somewhere with my name on it. On my Fathers side, the rumor is that my paternal ancestor was a member of an English Travelling Circus. I claim great-great-great Granpa was the Ring Master: my wife, who is rarely wrong, says he was most likely a clown. He passed down some words to live by when visiting your local 3 Ring Circus: "Don't Pet the Cats. That's Not Purring That You Hear!" ```Buster Seven Talk 12:27, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

My older brother, Hynee, is a buttocks stand-in for Mel Gibson. You've probably seen his work in Braveheart. Here's a reminder. . ```18:25, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

My girlfriend, who says it's the only good part of the film, asks that you convey her appreciation to your brother. I wonder if the person (whose name I have mercifully forgotten) with the predilection for measuring and tasting bottoms ever got near your brother's?† Does Hynee read the National Enquirer? Writegeist (talk) 19:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

†I'll hazard a guess he'd blush and mumble that he can't remember, LOL. Writegeist (talk) 06:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

While he admits to a quick read while in the Supermercado checkout line, he finds the NE a bit too serious. His favorite rag-mag lately is the Conservative Chronicle. Since his recent brain surgery, his surgeon has recommended that he "not be too open-minded". His recovery is proceedeing well, thank you. ```Buster Seven Talk 19:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

I often thumb through War and Peace to idle away an hour or two on a wet afternoon. But of course if a fellow indulges too much in that kind of fluff his mind grows torpid, his nads shrivel up, and he starts growing hair on the palms of his hands. For a super-challenging literary experience I pick a random issue of People magazine from the Giants of Literature section (next to the 8-foot flat-screen TV) in my library and embark on a couple of days of all-out, heavy-duty cerebral exercise. I've collected every issue, so as you can imagine I'm quite the celebrity in the Literary Lions Appreciation Society up here in Wasilla!

Your mention of Wasilla reminds me of the small town in Ohio, near Toledo named Wassila. Many of the townfolk have taken to raising pet donkeys for fun and profit and using them for transportation around the town.. The mayor, Phil Fleeting, says, "It's just our whimsical way of making politics fun. And, actually it's surprising how, eventually, they get you where you want to go". ```Buster Seven Talk 17:19, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much for replacing the picture of my Aunt Elsa's long lost love. She e-mailed me, all upset at the copyright infringement problem (she blamed it on President Obama). I assured her that her betrothed (so she says!) would return. She says. "Thanks." And would like to send you a nice thank you box of walrus blubber (she is living near the Artic Circle with a young eskimo lad named Nanook). She says dry ice will keep it relatively safe. Let me know if you have room in the 'fridge. ```Buster Seven Talk 19:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist

How can one make sense of a watchlist of over 2000. I have trouble keeping track of 200. This is a test of the B7 ActualStalkerSystem or ASS for short. I just realized! OMG! If there is a stalker, he is reading this right now! So...now he knows about the ASS system. Drats!!! O'Well! Back to the drawing board. Thank you for your time and assistance. ```Buster Seven Talk 13:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I have revised and retooled the ASS program. Another editor suggested it be called B7ISANASS. It's a bit long I think. Opine? Chores!```Buster Seven Talk 18:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm Canvassing. Again.

(EC)...Writegeist...The test is how I respond. Do I attack, in kind. Tit for tat. Stone for pebble. Blow for blow. Or do I learn about my 'self' and my spiritual growth. The attacks are meaningless and, while momentarily hurtful, they do little harm. They are only words on a screen. They and the source are of little consequence compared to other more important matters. I've taken to defending myself in this world of faceless attackers but more than that would be counter to my goals here. I'm human. I make mistakes. But I learn each day to work toward peace. Sometimes you get waylayed on a back road, off the beaten path, and you get attacked by the walking dead. But friends call out to you and guide you back from the abyss. Always a pleasure to visit. I like where you put the couch. ```Buster Seven Talk 07:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Scotch or Bourbon? I see the little doggie is still toddling along behind you, snapping at your heels. Ignore it and it might go away. Writegeist (talk)

What doggie? TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 06:40, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Check out Jimbo. He is coming down hard on paid editing. There is a discussion about who is in the minority position. Ediotrs need to speak up. As usual, it is the "What's the BIG deal" voices that shout the loudest.

For Giving Your Two Cents Worth. Again.

		Cents for Sense
		Sometimes two cents is worth alot more than it seems. Your comments broaden the base for communication and discussion, widening the circle. Thanks for giving yours and providing some personal insight at WP:Paid Operatives. ```Buster Seven Talk 14:15, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

J Wales: "There are a few vocal supporters of paid editing - some of them, paid editors - who post in every forum about this issue that they can with the same tired re-hash of nonsensical arguments. And a few who are bamboozled by them." Fortunately there are still more than a few who aren't.

Thank you for the Cents for Sense, B7. You're more deserving of recognition for helping to bring the blight of paid operatives to the community's attention, sometimes in the face of sneering, abusive and disruptive opposition from the bamboozlers' suck-ups (bamboozlees?). Writegeist (talk) 15:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Dead Horse

Is this the DEADHORSE people were talking about?

• 
• Looks quite healthy, alive and well to me.

```Buster Seven Talk 06:36, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

"People"? LOL! --Writegeist (talk) 05:29, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Paid operatives

Essay contents should not be contentious. Because they are supposed to represent opinions rather than being binding policy decisions, their content should only be substantially edited by those who agree with the stance espoused therein. If you disagree with the position taken by an essay, you're always permitted to write a counter-essay. Nyttend (talk) 06:14, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

"I think by now all good editors realize that they're just waiting their turn"

User:Wnt posted the following text and barnstar to Will Beback's talk page on February 27, 2012, and it perfectly reflects my thoughts:

I think by now all good editors realize that they're just waiting their turn

Reading over the decision, I still don't see the basis for blocking you for a day, let alone longer. I'm afraid this is not Officially Recognized, but I'll award it anyway:

		The Indefinite Barnstar
		Honoring those who have been indefinitely blocked on Wikipedia for productive, reasonable and well intentioned efforts conducted in accordance with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. For violating a policy contradiction even ArbCom admits it can't figure out

One of the most dispiriting spectacles on Wikipedia...

...is the gloating from WP:BATTLEGROUND-mentality users when an outstanding Wikipedian, having fought their efforts to spin information with bias, suffers a reversal of fortune. The loss of a good editor is never cause for celebration. Except, apparently, among the tiny-minded. Writegeist (talk) 10:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

...is when you get confirmation that the user you thought was just obnoxious is also stupid. Mean-spirited, I knew. Stupid? Not so much. ```Buster Seven Talk 13:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

ANI or RfC

It is no secret that we are both experiencing problematic behavior elsewhere on WP. I am quite prepared to move the issue to Conflict Resolution. Now that the two BIG cases are 'off the bench', this may be a good time to resolve some things. It is not my desired course of action, but simple human interplay does not seem to work. Let me know. ```Buster Seven Talk 03:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC) Also, I have made some major changes to my essay @WP:Paid operatives and wonder if you might peruse them and add (or subtract) as you see fit. One more thing, having had a problem with canvassing before, I was wondering how to get the word out without getting a foul with the Law. I'd hate to be a Jailbird at my advanced age. Thanking you in advance...Buster Seven Talk 03:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The infantile spitefulness and sulky petulance of the abusive responses are quite poisonous. Productive two-way communication and collaboration seem impossible where they arise. Despite warnings of blocks for the same behavior a year ago, there's plentiful evidence in the interim - and currently - that they were not taken on board. Writegeist (talk) 07:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

RfC on WP:COI guideline

You may be interested in a current request for comment regarding the COI guideline and this noticeboard: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/COI. ...Buster Seven Talk 03:58, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Category:Antisemitism

Perhaps you can help me. You wrote below my comment on User talk:Brendan19's page regarding Brendan19's reversing the removal of a biographical entry from category:antisemitism. I have a dispute with User:Pieter Kuiper. He insists that nobody can include biographical entries in the category:antisemitism. He referred me to a discussion he had with 5 other Wikipedeans in which they supported that view. I don't see the value of such a view, nor do I see that individual's right to impose that view on other Wikipedeans. I think that if the individual in question played an intimate role in the advancement (or the combating) of anti-Semitism, that individual belongs in the category. Thank you for giving this message your attention.Iss246 (talk) 19:27, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Petition

I seem to recall a move afoot to start a petition to reconsider the BAN of Editor Will. I thought it was on my talk page. but no such luck. Perhaps you remember? ```Buster Seven Talk 11:58, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I found it! User talk:Jmh649. Sorry to bother your morning brew. Buster Seven Talk.

I also was directed to a very useful list. Thought you might be interested... Wikipedia:List of online reference desks#Directories of educational videos Buster Seven Talk

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The Friendship Barnstar

		The Friendship Barnstar
		For your most excellent efforts in friendship towards me as a fellow Wikipedian, I, Buster7, award you this barnstar originally created by Ched Davis. Without your presence this place would be a desert. As I have said before, your talk is my oasis in that desert. BTW...this is my 20,000 edit. ```Buster Seven Talk 16:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar and the lead to Paid Advocacy FAQ. AM I dense or is the page designed for Jimbo to answer ???? I asked a ques and User;Fred (see CREWE) answered. Of course his answer completely ignored the reader of the bamboozled article. I un-did him and await Jimbo's reply. Wish me luck. B7

Overheard at the Wikipedia:Teahouse

When I left home on a trip, my Mom said "Don't forget to write." I thought, "That's unlikely". After all, it's a fairly basic skill. ```Buster Seven Talk 11:45, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

BTW....I know you didnt ask but here are my thoughts re: the Teahouse and newbies. Its kinda like...You have just arrived in Amsterdam...and your TravelGuide takes you right to the Red Light District and says, "Have a Good Time. See me if you need a joint". ```Buster Seven Talk 12:21, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Silly Season

When the silly season (someone elses flaccid observation. Not mine) starts, watch out for this guy----->. He is a widely acknowledged puryeyor of puzzlement, a pesky and persistent polemist, as well as a farmer of cornfields hither and yon. "Jeers!"```Buster Seven Talk 18:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Ah yes, he of the "relentless theatrics" and the fake grin. Thank you for the mugshot and the warning. "Flaccid" -- perfect! "Sheers"! Writegeist (talk) 20:17, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Ridiculous!

Ridiculous! ```Buster Seven Talk 11:54, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Lol. R-41's imagination has got the bit well and truly between its teeth now: the latest accusation, that you and I "have had long-term relations", will come as quite a surprise to my beloved. Writegeist (talk) 20:03, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

"Excess liquids from your kidneys". Is there a connection to General Ripper's paranoid belief that there is a communist conspiracy involving water fluoridation and contamination of everyone's "precious bodily fluids"?. ```Buster Seven Talk 07:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Uric apocalypse! Oh wait---it's excess liquids from his "kindneys", he says. Maybe he means kind knees? Mine are very kind, if a little knobbly; and contain no excess liquids as far as I know. The shoes of innocent bystanders are safe. Writegeist (talk) 08:24, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Now the very same gentleman who threatened to piss and fart on me (!) starts a thread at ANI ostensibly to complain about three users having a robust exchange of views somewhere; then switches to repeatedly complaining about me (without bothering to notify me, natch); [29] then, after I post a (IMO) commendably light-hearted response to the ANI thread, he comes to my talk page to abuse me with fantastical accusations of despising and hating him, and demanding I give him free rein to discuss me at the noticeboards without responding! [30] And then at ANI he posts yet more repetition of the same complaints about me that he's posted two or three times in the thread already; huffs and puffs about how much he dspises me; and accuses me of wanting him to quit Wikipedia! Surrealism lives! Writegeist (talk) 18:26, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Snot and fart department

Don't talk to me anymore on Bryonmorrigan's talk page, never post on my talk page - don't worry I will never again post on yours no matter what snotty response I imagine you will give to this.--R-41 (talk) 23:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Sincere apologies, I posted an invitation at your talk before I saw this note. Nevertheless, the invitation still stands. I'll put the kettle on the hob just in case. Writegeist (talk) 23:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

And btw, I much preferred the original version of your note, with the "humour" included, i.e.:

"I am saying that you are not superior to everyone else, like you snobbishly try to pretend you are like to IRWolfie-. How about you try not acting like a snot. Oops, I'm sorry, I farted in your general direction."[31]

I wonder why you altered it? Nothing wrong with a little humour! And it's not often we get to see "snot" and "farted" in the same post. So it also has rarity value. Well done. Writegeist (talk) 23:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Goran Hadžić

See MOS:TEXT. -- ◅PRODUCER <sub>(TALK)</sub> 10:52, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

See MOS:QUOTE. Writegeist (talk) 17:40, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

NPA

As someone who cant control himself and sulks when he doesnt get his way, this is certainly uncivil, crude, threatening, NPA eeven and he should be reported. Happened before that he then reads my user page and throws a hissy fit looking for a complaint. eHe then threatened to elave WP and came back in less than a week ;)(Lihaas (talk) 02:45, 4 June 2012 (UTC)).

Child of Johnny Fartpants and Sweary Mary, lol. Recently adopted ([32], [33]); strings now being vigorously pulled! Writegeist (talk) 04:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

FWIW (and to any talkstalker present) As any one can plainly see by "trolling" (a fishing term meaning to slowly pass over) the long history of this page, User:Writegeist and I have been "WikiFriends" for quite some time now. We appreciate each others humor and probably find agreement with each others comments here and there. We are not fellow members of any Cabal, Alliance, Confederacy, Allegiance, Union, Accord (not the Honda), Team, Plot, Conspiracy, or any other form of hidden agenda promotion. Quite simply, we are like-minded. The motives of anyone striving to see more than that should be questioned. ```Buster Seven Talk 18:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

FWIW also, we are not members of the AMC Pacer Owner's Club, the Flat Earth Society, Boodle's or any 2012 Olympics squad (we'd win gold in the Maker's Mark Double Lift And Guzzle, but the sport is not yet recognized by the IOC). We may both be members of AAA, which, if so, will probably be held against us by a talkstalker. Writegeist (talk) 04:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Mutual mutuality

Good Sir, I would like to take this opportunity to express once again my great esteem for you. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 23:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Will power

I love reading the "back pages", like a tiny wren , flitting from branch to branch, and investigating the page for tidbits of useless information (but interesting nonetheless). You get to appreciate certain editors for their clear thoughts and ability to express themselves. What this site is getting low on is Will power. I miss what's not there:insight and reasonableness. ```Buster Seven Talk 16:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Totally, Cisto. Even in the face of the most gratuitously contemptuous (and contemptible) posts and edit summaries, Will remained resolutely cool, calm and collected. Writegeist (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Chevrolet Vega

Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Barnstarbob regarding recent edits of Chevrolet Vega. --Biker Biker (talk) 12:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Maybe we could just get the page semi-protected? The 'new' editors seem awfully contentious for 'new' editors.842U (talk) 10:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Seems to have died downnow? Writegeist (talk) 04:35, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

lol.

rather not just "lol" .. but lmao .. even lmFao. I absolutely howled at your Armageddon Sikkahim!, post. Of course my dog now thinks I'm completely bonkers for laughing at a computer screen .. but then again - she's probably right. — Ched :  ?  15:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

When I spotted your distinctive sig my first thought was that I'd been blocked, so you can imagine how my hand trembled as I reached for the whisky, and how the other took the automatic precaution of checking the fit of the incontinence pads. Which all added to the positive relief and pleasure of reading your note. And from an eminent Wikipedian who quotes Lytton Strachey to boot! Thank you.

Btw when the drama gets really depressing I find it helps to imagine some of the players as characters in a Christopher Guest film, or some sort of Wikipedian version of The League of Gentlemen or The Fast Show... I recommend it. I don't have a dog but if I did it would have turned me in by now. Oh wait, that's more of a cat thing isn't it. Writegeist (talk) 04:24, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

You are a fine fellow

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		Refined humor is hard to come by. Thank you, – Lionel (talk) 23:05, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Back at you Sir with knobs on, as they so nearly say here in the colonies where I reside. The award is much appreciated. As soon as I find my Mappin & Webb bone-handled Jungle Chum pocket knife in the heirloom clutter of my, ahem, "condo" (sincere apologies for the vulgar American vernacular, and by the way please note: no "m") I shall slice the handsome bronze star out of the screen and wear it with pride on the lapel of my finest Cholmondeley and Ramsbotham Number 2 Thornproof Tweed hacking jacket. Writegeist (talk) 02:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Re. rant at DRN

Please. "Grossly insulting", "telling a volunteer to get a desk job", "reported...for your personal attack" are exaggerations so extreme (and in the second example really quite Pythonesque) as to be fabrications. As for your allegation that TFD "has literally gone mad" (an egregious personal attack--hefty blocks are dispensed for less), and all the other fanciful allegations in your rant at DRN, they serve only to distract from the serious issue at hand there. As a key element of the article, it warrants sober, accurate and respectful attention. TFD is a hugely experienced editor who evidently possesses in-depth knowledge of the subject as well as considerable intellectual acumen. I advise you not to indulge further in wild allegations against him or any other editors posting at DRN. Writegeist (talk) 00:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

So you lied when you said "By all means raise your personal issues at my talk page", you deleted everything I posted here. Good to know, reveals your false intentions at the dispute resolution noticeboard.--R-41 (talk) 02:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

You posted here, as you were invited to. I read your post, as you wished. I then deleted it, as I am permitted to. If you're not clear why I deleted it, please refer to the edit summary. But please don't come here just to repeat the same old accusations or, as this time, to accuse me of lying--which itself is a lie. I find that obnoxious (YMMV). If you want to post here other than to insult me, you are perfectly free to do so. If you continue with the insults, I shall continue deleting your posts. It's your choice. Can't say fairer than that. Writegeist (talk) 03:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Just posting this here from what I posted on the dispute noticeboard, so you'll be sure to read it. Ha ha ha. It sure must be funny to you that I don't like sexual jokes--R-41 (talk) 04:47, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

DRN is on my watchlist. Writegeist (talk) 05:24, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

You have been reported to the administrator's noticeboard on allegation of Wikihounding

Here is the link to the noticeboard incident: [34]--R-41 (talk) 00:37, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm upset

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/incidents#User Writegeist is Wikihounding either me or User Collect. All that chatter and not a single mention of ME! I need a new Press Agent! ```Buster Seven Talk 13:24, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you must feel crushed. But who knows, give it time...?

As for me, of course being someone who was voted Best-Dressed Wikipedian every year from 1929 (with a short break for the dust-up with Johnny Foreigner) until the advent of the nylon shirt (which I refused to wear, even under threat of the Chinese Water Spaniel torture), I'm always ready for an elegant bash. You'll already know the theme of this one -- The Wikihound of the Baskervilles -- and that I'm guest of honour (I know! Moi! When the invitation came I kept pinching moiself and saying, "Guest of honour, guest of honour!"). Naturally my first thought was "what to wear?" Moments later I was dusting off the distinctive royal corgi-fur cape which poor Princess D had made for me after she took to poisoning the royal fam's ankle-biters.

I can appreciate you feeling left out, and yes I do think you should fire that useless Quentin Quimby (he drinks Milller Lite for Heaven's sake) and get Max Clifford (vintage champagne). But the gossip is SO dreary, it's like getting stuck in an episode of Mrs Dale's Diary, a radio programme they made when the world was still in black and white and the only truly interesting thing was the pointiness of brassières.

So far I've seen only two guests I could have had intelligent conversations with. Sadly, when they saw the way people were dressed (you'd see more sartorial elegance at Walmart), and heard the squabble with a ghastly little gatecrasher in the corner, they ran screaming for the exit. Yes, god, the CLOTHES people go out in these days. What an insult to the Corgi Cape. I was quick to shield its eyes (sometimes I wonder if D's couturier was wise to leave the little head on, undeniably cute though the whiskers are), but even so I swear it gnashed its pointy little teeth in an agony of existential angst.

There's also an unpleasantly sharp and vaguely familiar smell in the venue, something toxic perhaps, that makes my eyes water, so I'm eternally grateful to Mrs Writegeist for remembering to pop the handkerchief in my breast pocket (along with the discreet nasal hair emergency clipper kit). Is it OK for a guest of honour to leave early? (I already did.) What does Emily Post say? Of course I should never have gone. Note to self: In future, never go when the word "incident" is on the invitation. Writegeist (talk) 19:27, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Update. Well it suddenly ended early and I've come back home. Tea and biscuits! Writegeist (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I took your advice and have fired Quentin. He didn't take it well and has decided to pursue his dream job---furniture re-upholstery. I wish him well. Luckily, thru my Hollywood connections, I discovered that Ted was available. Granted he is a little rough around the edges and his previous job (grocery store manager) may not be a perfect fit for a publicist but what the heck---everyone deserves a chance. One small problem. His hygiene is not the best and small gnats buzz around him constsntly. He has convinced me that it's part of his charm. We'll see! TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 08:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Ted is not working out. First, he's hard to reach. He insists on only using a rotary dial phone for all his business. Second, whenever I DO get in touch with him, he is impossible to understand. Its not the spittle or the drooling. I can put up with that. Its the arcane, archaic words he uses. I rarely know what the heck he is talking about. I contacted that Max guy you suggested. He didn't take my call. Maybe I should do my own publicity. Anyway. HaND. ```Buster Seven Talk 15:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

300 SL

No problem, just trying to help where I can. Happy editing, --L1A1 FAL (talk) 05:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I told you to stay away from me. We despise each other, there is no chance you will have a neutral observance of me.

Writegeist, stop interjecting in noticeboard discussions involving me. We despise each other, you know that. Your contributions about me are affected by your hatred of me. You and your friend need to stop talking about me on your talk page as both of you have done here [35] and as both of you have done with User:Collect. I and User:Collect have indicated to you that we do not want you discussing us on your talk page or your friends' talkpages. Stay away from me, do not discuss with me, do not get involved in discussions about or involving me.--R-41 (talk) 17:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

You made repeated, tedious complaints about me (I mean repeated in the sense of gratuitously repeating the same complaint, almost verbatim, over and over again) in an ANI report you filed against three other people. I had not contributed one word to the thread. (Needless to say, you didn't have the courtesy to notify me that you were complaining about me there.) Then, when I respond at ANI, you come to my talk page to complain about that also, with ludicrous accusations of "hating" and "despising" you, and demanding I allow your complaints free rein. And then you repeat the same complaint about me at ANI yet again, this time adding that you "despise" me. I am tempted to tell you to piss off. Oh, and I also note you feel free to discuss me with another user at your talk pages, but you command me not to mention you here.

I do not "hate" or "despise" you. I have not the slightest desire for you (or anybody else, for that matter) to "quit" Wikipedia -- your latest accusation at ANI. Neither (unlike you in respect of numerous users) do I have any desire for you to submit to any restrictions at the noticeboards or at any users' talk pages.

While this response is not an invitation to further discussion, you are free to post here. Please remember, I am also free to remove your posts. Writegeist (talk) 19:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

You and your friend need to stop talking about me on your talk page, no more of this: [36]. TFD brought up my ANI report of you, so I responded to that, I did not initiate it. I will gladly not talk about you, I do not want to, I will do that once you and your friend stop talking about me on your talk page.--R-41 (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

TFD mentioned it in passing and in a much wider context. You banged on and on and on and on about it without even having the courtesy to let me know. Please get a grip. I don't care in the slightest whether you talk about me or not (in future kindly notify me when you do so at the noticeboards). I have no interest in making any deals with you that restrict the freedom of either of us to post whatever and wherever we like. It is enough that I don't post to your talk page. Writegeist (talk) 19:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

We would both benefit from paying closer attention to WP:STICK . I think we're done here, don't you? Writegeist (talk) 20:12, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't talk about me on your talk page, as you and your friend did here: [37], nor on your friends' talk pages, I do not want to be either a topic of conversation, or mentioned in a conversation by you or your friends, oblige this simple request and we will be done with this.--R-41 (talk) 20:38, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I have already made my position sufficiently clear. Writegeist (talk) 20:46, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Why is it impossible for you to not talk about me on your talk page? Is it really a major hindrance to you to simply avoid talking about me?--R-41 (talk) 20:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

R-41, if that is how you feel, why are you and your friend Collect (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) talking about Writegeist and me on his talk page? Did you take his advice and send him an e-mail? And why do you keep quoting the opinions of your friend Nug (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (aka Martintg, aka Martin, aka Tammsulu)? TFD (talk) 04:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

TFD, I do not engage in regular conversation with Nug, I even disliked the fact that Nug seemed to be attempting to win my favour against you when you accused me of POV with no evidence that started this tension between us, I told Nug that I did not appreciate what I saw her/him as trying to do, you can see my very stern response to Nug's attempt to buddy up to me here: [38]. Frankly I am surprised that I have agreed with Collect recently, me and Collect have very different views on politics - Collect is right-wing, I am left-wing, I have strongly disagreed with Collect on left-right politics. I did not send Collect an e-mail, nor do I have any desire to have any personal friendships on Wikipedia, this is a place that I seek to utilize to help expand public knowledge, I am not interested in making friends here with people I do not know in person. Unlike this user here, I have held you in high regard in the past and have cooperated with you in the past for several years, but in the past year or so you have become cynical and have made assumptions about me.--R-41 (talk) 06:44, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Wait. I'm confused. Am I the editor/friend that is talking about him and needs to stop or is it User:TFD? If it's me I should point out that I haven't started to talk about him (R-41) so it may be difficult for me to stop. BTW...I see you friend from RIO is off his meds again. Why does he do that? DB is one of the good ones. O Well! TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 18:45, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: "I am surprised that I have agreed with Collect recently". Wrong, Collect has been agreeing with R-41 recently, whenever I am in disagreement with R-41. TFD (talk) 18:13, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Some never tire of retiring: [39] -- Happy anniversary R-41! [40] [41] [42] Writegeist (talk) 20:55, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Queries

• "Is it safe"? ```Buster Seven Talk 23:50, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
• "If the fits, wear it." ```Buster Seven Talk 06:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
• "Let there be in the Valley." ```Buster Seven Talk 07:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
• "Like a over troubled waters." ```Buster Seven Talk 18:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:RETENTION This editor is willing to lend a helping hand. Just ask.

---

• . I'm out of staples. Do you have any?```Buster Seven Talk 19:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Arcandam

Thank you for deleting your comments. In doing so, you deleted mine. Don't ever do that again. More don'ts: don't ever troll on my talk page; don't ever remove or alter my comments on my talk page; don't ever come back to my talk page. And don't ever send me another abusive, threatening email. Writegeist (talk) 05:07, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

COI+ certification proposal

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COI+ certification proposal

I've thought of an idea that might break our current logjam with paid editing. I'd love your sincere feedback and opinion.

• WP:COI certification

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Warning

Should you assist in any of the varied political articles regarding the up-coming US Presidential Election, here are a few guidelines you will need to consider regarding proper decourum:

1. Any cross-party hugfest can be initiated only by The Right,
2. Any internal hugfest (or support of one another) within The Right should NOT be construed as anything more than friendliness and cheerful editorial banter,
3. Any internal hugfest (or support of one another) within The Left could, should and will be considered "cabal-esque" and will result in immediate topic bans to the active participants, and severe reprimands to any editors that were seen smiling in the general vicinity of the hugfest.```Buster Seven Talk 14:26, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

One more b4 closing, revisited

Consider this recent statement from Jimbo's talk: "None of this would have ensued had Fae said "mea culpa" at the RfC/U and placed himself up for RfA again." Good advice. But from Janus, no less. In the words of Mary Shakespeare (Bill's half-sister), "O Thou dispicable Knave. I wouldst kiss thee, but thy forked tongue wouldst cause me dismay." ```Buster Seven Talk 19:31, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

What Happened

Options:

1) Your application to be an Astronaut was approved and you are on a secret mission to Mars and beyond....

2) due to civil disobedience (a common problem for you), your computer was confiscated by Homeland Security...

3) you have entered the witness protection program and you are living in Memphis in the guise of a semi-successful Country and Western record producer....

4) you have run away to a tiny Meditteranean island with a pregnant Madonna....

5) you have taken WikiKnights a bit too seriously and have joined your local Medieval Times....

6) you got the job as joke writer for Conan and can't be bothered with us peons....

7) you decided your lady was right...8 hours a day at Wikipedia was a bit too much.

Whenever you return, which I hope will happen soon, get in touch. Your friend, Buster Seven Talk 15:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

AMC Gremlin

I noticed the recent changes you made about the styling of the AMC Gremlin. Do you think you could help with a discussion going about the sourcing on the different histories about the styling and how to verify or better credential the recently introduced (and previous) information? I've started the discussion here. Thanks.842U (talk) 14:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Adam and Eve

I think you are mistaken about your entry at the Garden of Eden Humor article. Contrary to current fundamentalist beliefs, it was Adam that said to Eve, "You had better stand back, Honey. I'm not sure how big this thing is 'gonna get!!!" File:Adam and eve with animals by Brian Whelan.jpg ```Buster Seven Talk 22:59, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Be Still My Beating Heart

An old retired gentleman wakes up in the hospital, covered head to foot in bandages. A doctor walks in and says, "You have been in a serious accident...but everything is OK. Except....we could not find your penis at the scene. But dont worry, we can surgically attach a replacement organ, no problem. Its covered by your insurance up to $9000 and it would be about $1000 per inch. So....you may want 5" or 6' or even go with the 9" model. Now, since your wife should be considered in the decision making process, why dont you talk to her this evening and let me know tommorrow what you have decided". The next day the doctor returns and asks the old guy...

• "So...you talked to the Missus?".
• "Yes, I have."
• "What have you decided?"
• ...........
• ...........
• ...........
• "We're gonna go with the granite countertop!" Welcome back!!!! TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 18:56, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

:-D Thank you my friend! Good to come back to your voice of reason at the project, where Will's absence, particularly from the latest discussions, is a real loss. BTW your post has a special resonance for me, as my grandfather was a successful penis reattachment surgeon until failing eyesight (actually his wife said it was more to do with his mischievous personality) led to some less than optimal results. The procedure on his final patient prompted the first known use of the description "dickhead". Writegeist (talk) 19:37, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

....:~)....As chance would have it, My Great uncle, twice removed, on my fathers side was a PRICK....Penis Recovery Intern in Central Kentucky. Maybe they worked together? Small world, isn't it! ```Buster Seven Talk 12:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Troll Hunter

Great Movie. Much useful troll information on the lifestyle and eating habits of the varios trolls. If you know Finnish its probably even more enjoyable. A usefool tool for the Advanced Troll Hunters Toolbox. BTW...while we are on the subject...or more specifically while I'm on the subject...let me point out that my user and talk page have NEVER been vandalized. Is there something wrong with me? Am I not a good victim? TRA!!```Buster Seven Talk 14:59, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Lest We Forget

While editing random articles, I came across this memorable little slice of Americana at Pearson Brick House.....

The house contains two cellars. One of the two cellars is dirt-walled and contains a fireplace for smoking meats and chains for restraining slaves.

```Buster Seven Talk 14:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Taggert

I recently stumbled upon the Tagg Romney article and did some tidying up. I wonder if you would be interested in working with me to create a Solamare Group article. See User:Buster7/Sandbox-Solomare Group for the rough beginning, if interested. Misspelling will be fixed during Construction. Un-biased and non-partisan. Take it to featured status. It would look good on our resumes! --Buster Seven Talk 21:14, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Interesting reading: [43] and [44]. E.g. "[W]hy would a political candidate and his family have a financial relationship with a company that owns a chunk of the voting machine company that will be counting the actual votes given to that political candidate or his opponent?" OK let me try to answer that with an unbiased, non-partisan hypothetical. Let's suppose the candidate is a man renowned the world over for his integrity, his secret five-point plan to create 12 million jobs, his mastery of the four secret handshakes that'll get us into Heaven so long as we have the right underwear, his incandescent intelligence, and his seemingly boundless compassion for anyone who doesn't receive a squillion dollars a year in interest from investments. What better way for such a paragon to ensure scrupulously honest, unerringly accurate and totally impartial vote-counting than by financially assisting the company that programs the machines that do the counting? Isn't quid pro quo beautiful when it's in the good strong hands of someone whose nether regions are in good strong bloomers and who sees The Book of Mormon as the word of God (props to Matt and Trey!)? Writegeist (talk) 15:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

;Happy Halloween

I like your costume. ```Buster Seven Talk 18:22, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for donating the Mormon underpants and the Romney mask. Well-wishers told me it was the scariest zombie outfit they'd ever seen. One mother reported to a policeman (or at least, someone dressed as a policeman) that a fleeting glimpse had traumatized her child. All in all a great success. Writegeist (talk) 00:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Alternit a count

i am the alternit acount 4 Buster7. i was born in a petri dish 3.5 years ago. i am a half-wit. most things i do r half-assed trys. i like to eat so i way half a ton. i donut get owt much...i cant get thru the door. b7 sed u r a good friend. Due u have any food? i'll be back in half an hour. Buster3.5 (talk) 12:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Petri dish . . . half-wit . . . half-assed . . . 3 1/2 years old -- the user that comes to mind is one quite other than my good friend B7 :) . Writegeist (talk) 00:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedians who are not a Wikipedian

Did you put yourself into this category? ```Buster Seven Talk 07:05, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

I did. The category was inspired by the wording of an arbitrator's unwarranted personal attack on another user. Writegeist (talk) 00:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Essay: Wikipedia:Wikipedians who are not a Wikipedian — Writegeist (talk) 19:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Credit where credit is due

Please see Collect's talk. Prominently displayed at the top of the page is a four year old comment I made to User:FactChecker@YourService related to editing Drama at the Saint Sarah article. I have asked him to either remove the quote or give me credit. I would prefer attribution. It seems so petty. As usual, he takes a minor 4 year old incident and blows it completely out of proportion, making something otherwise insignificant into something bigger to suit his own agenda. What else is new? ```Buster Seven Talk 08:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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• My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.
• They (Sununu, Paul Ryan, Newt Ginrich, Mitch McConnell and a dozen more) have conspired against him since the day of his Inauguration (at a not-so-secret meeting), before he had done a single thing. What other reason could there be? ```Buster Seven Talk 18:48, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Sam Spade/Private Investigator

• Please see [[45]] as well as my comment at

Collect's Law Userfy page. I'm here to ask for your advice. I have much evidence, collected over the past four years, to prove that Collect is a provocature and not the "cheer"ful little elf he self-promotes. Do you think it would be wise to contact the hundreds of editors that have had editorial run-ins with Collect? How else would I let them know that Collect has been brought before the court of the land (WikiWorld) and a request has been made that he cease and desist? Over the years, I have offered my hand in resolving our differences. My hand was always slapped away. I would like to say that Collect's antics mean nothing and don't bother me. I would like to say that but I can't. Its like listening to Rush Limbaugh. I know its poisoning me but I take small sips anyway. If I could only wean myself from paying attention to him, I would be a Happy Camper. ```Buster Seven Talk 14:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I've mined a priceless collection of gems from WP article space, talk pages, noticeboards and edit summaries, as well as from blogs and the media, for reference in class discussions about comically bad writing. Examples that evince a witless, Pooterish self-regard---wacko blogs and the far-right media are the motherlode during an election campaign---always prove popular. Please email me what you have--my students have an unquenchable thirst for new material. My advice is not to bother contacting other editors. They're probably already aware. Always good to see you here. Make yourself at home, check out the books, don't knock over the petri dish or trip over the cat. You won't get much purring out of it, I'm afraid; been dead for almost a year now. My neighbour is an accomplished taxidermist if you ever need one. He dropped in to see granny yesterday (she's 103) but it turned out she was only asleep. Chores! Writegeist (talk) 17:37, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

This [46] is interesting. Old, but interesting. The author has changed it over the years, but I think this truly reflects his intentions. Then and now. ```Buster Seven Talk 23:58, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

A golden oldie. I see another user has labeled it as humour--the only truly funny thing on the page! Writegeist (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Interestingly, Ive started to write an essay, You Can Put Lipstick on a Pig, but it's Still a Pig. I even have a pig in mind as a model for theme and essay continuity. Problem is ...he's still alive and well...and shows no sign of slowing down. Should the time come and he expires I'll definetely need the services of your neighbor. Do I send the carcass to him? Or does he make house calls? BTW: When I transfer the essay to a sandbox I hope you and other like-minded "I've had that same experience" editors will participate. I'll let you know when I transfer it. ```Buster Seven Talk 22:20, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

My pet Golden Retriever, Grover, passed away last week. I would like to get him stuffed and mounted to the hood of my Ford Ranger pick-up truck in memory of the efforts of Uncle Mitty. Would your neighbor be able to handle that????? ```Buster Seven Talk 14:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Same card, different year!

Happy Thanksgiving, Writegeist!
As we all sit down at the dinner table and say our thanks, I would like to give thanks to you for your wonderful contributions and wish you a very happy Thanksgiving. May your turkey, ham or beast of choice satiate you until next year! TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 14:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)	A traditional Thanksgiving dinner.

Thank you, kind Sir. Greetings and best wishes to you too, and thank you for your contributions and friendship. In preparation for this year's festive dinner, I am learning this really rather lovely grace . Writegeist (talk) 16:09, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

God's Stone Thrower

In the 14th Century, one of my ancestors was a famously notorious Pirate. He was the first to place catapults on board ships to facilitate easier maurauding. My image of him is File:Jack Sparrow In Pirates of the Caribbean- At World's End.JPG. This may not be far from the truth if one considerd that my relatives surname is also the name of a living creature. Did the authors of the Pirates franchise use my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather as the basis for their character? I think they did!!!!! Someday I'll write an article and take it to FA. ```Buster Seven Talk 16:17, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

My great-great etc. grandfather was Terence Trebuchet so they may have known each other! It's an interesting story. Terry had acquired a very early Sopwith Plummet aeroplane:

The wings were somewhat lacking in lift, but Terry realized the contraption had potential for weekend marauders to throw rocks and rotten vegetables at people whose stuff they wanted for themselves, and he deftly adapted it to the new purpose. Then full-time professional maurauders took it up, and the rest is history. Without Terry, WW2 would almost certainly never have been brought to an end by America's development of those giant trebuchets that could lob multiple grand pianos over distances of hundreds of miles. Europe owes its freedom to Terry, the Sopwith Plummet and the Underwood Corps! I think you should sue the studio for ripping off your pirate ancestor's story. Writegeist (talk) 17:05, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree; a lawsuit is in order. Do you know a good Personal Injury lawyer? I know someone of questionable integrity and character who is tremendous at obfuscation. Problem is he is not a lawyer: he is an Oldenwoordenboekenmaker.```Buster Seven Talk 13:31, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

May I recommend my personal injury lawyer Sammy "Batman" Malignanti? His lawyering credentials (certification from the Gambino School of Law) may not be of the highest order but he comes from a good family and his ability to inflict personal injury with a baseball bat is unrivaled. Writegeist (talk) 18:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Sammy's reputation preceeds him. If it's the same Sammy Malignanti from Taylor Street in Chicago? I didn't know that a felon could become a lawyer. But...hey...who cares. Does a hi-jacker need a drivers license?? Does a "vulture" capitalist need a heart to do business? Is a baseball bat just used to hit baseballs???? Chores! ```Buster Seven Talk 12:22, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

How do you do?

Now I can relax.

Hello. I was led here to your userspace by the illustrious B7. I hope you don't mind if I take my shoes off and make myself at home. Wateresque (talk) 20:57, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Greetings, Wateresque, and welcome to my humble abode. Any friend of Buster's is a friend of mine, and I hope you'll swing by whenever you have a mind to. Thank you for taking off your shoes. The cleaning lady has just been -- the place isn't always this clean and tidy. Don't trip over the cat, it won't move out of the way, it's stuffed. Feel free to browse the books. And yes, it's a real Hockney and the insurance is killing me. Are you a firefighter? If so, you'll have plenty to do on Wikipedia. Writegeist (talk) 21:30, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Well a fake cat is better than no cat, as I always say. No, unfortunately I'm not a firefighter, just an engineer who hastily found the best picture of casually removed shoes on W.Commons. Although I imagine that if I tried I could fight a few wikifires. Wateresque (talk) 14:08, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Information

FWIW

I was all ready to participate in this venture. I signed up, I got my questionnaire and read it over, I started to formulate my responses based on my own essay on the subject and my continuing interest in the well-being of WP, I was primed for a really vibrant and forward moving discussion.

And then Dave showed up

Needless to say but my balloon of "Maybe now we will get somewhere" popped. I don't know. Maybe civilty and manners are not as important as I think. I just know I cannot be in the vicinity of Dave. Ive taken this unusual step of removing myself before and it has worked. My hypertension is within limits and my suicidal tendances are minimal (jk). I wish there was some kind of repelant (a garland of garlic that repels vampires). O well. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 14:18, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Clothing recommended for anyone entering an area where they're in danger of exposure to toxic gas (even so, you're wise to vacate contaminated areas toot sweet). Chores! Writegeist (talk) 16:45, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

• I have posted this guard outside my door. He has been instructed to repel any intruders that do not know the secret password (which changes monthly). Decembers password is: Grok! ```Buster Seven Talk

Rats, I've forgotten the password. What was it? Marvellous portrait of Dave, btw; captures him perfectly -- Cartier-Bresson? - Writegeist (talk) 16:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Januarys password is ObamaCare. Yes! You have a jewelers eye. Cartier-Bresson was brilliant in capturing the subleties that others miss. Notice the burdensome hunchback. Almost makes you feel sorry for the poor sap......NOT! ```Buster Seven Talk 08:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

On a serious note. I came across a book of selected Carrier-Bresson photos. Are you interested? If so, let me know and I will send it via MediaMail ASAP---No charge. ```Buster Seven Talk 20:52, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Buster, I'd love that. I'll email you an address... Wishing you a very merry Crimble! Writegeist (talk) 21:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

As luck would have it, an acquaintance gave me a painting for Christmas; I don't have any wall space available (dozens of framed parking tickets) and I'm wondering if you might like it (if you don't mind regifting). It's a sylvan setting with five nude women washing or bathing (one is in the water) in a rive or lake. The signature isn't easy to decipher; might be P. Lezanne or P. Cezanne. Anyway, he or she was evidently quite good in an amateur sort of way -- the eyes of one of the women seem to follow you around the room. Let me know if nude women appeal and I'll mail it to you. Happy nude year! Writegeist (talk) 00:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Of course nude women appeal to me. And, as luck would have it, my first wife had a roving eye, especially when she was nude. I'll be in touch. Buster Seven Talk 17:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Writegeist. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

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• • Februarys password is stewart. ```Buster Seven Talk 22:24, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Winter Wonderland

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.

Happy Holidays to you and yours. ```Buster Seven Talk 15:45, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Calendar Update

The Peacemaking Meeting scheduled for tomorrow has been cancelled due to conflict. . Buster Seven Talk 15:57, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

And tomorrow's 23rd Annual Conference of the Association of Psychics and Astrologists has been cancelled owing to unforeseen circumstances. Writegeist (talk) 16:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

It's tough to make predictions. Especially about the Future! ```Buster Seven Talk 07:26, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Idea for a Barnstar

• The What You Don’t See Can’t Annoy You Barnstar
• Wikipedia is a big wide wonderful world. So, it should be a seldom occurrence that two editors find themselves seated next to each other at the same bar at the same hotel in the same city, each wondering why the other editors fat ass is encroaching into his personal space.
• ```Buster Seven Talk 08:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

A thought while wrapping Christmas presents

Prejudice has been a part of the Human Scene for too long. ```Buster Seven Talk 16:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

• I bought the barnstar below at a yard sale on the corner of Wales Way and Larry Lane in the old section of WikiWorld. Merry Christmas.

Ancient barnstar causes strife and consternation. Mayans at fault

Note: The VfD Barnstar was demolished in error. I told the demo team to destroy the Oddball Barnstar. They heard "Destoy the Oddball's Barnstar." So sorry. Any other clean-up work while I'm here? ```Buster Seven Talk 03:00, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes the yard. There's a lot of fire and brimstone that needs dealing with; also the property is littered with the bodies of people who started ascending in the Rapture and bumped into aircraft, high-tension cables, god-fearing oxen rising at a slower rate of ascent, etc. And if you can do something about the massive asteroid on a collision course with Earth that would be a bonus but not to worry if you're busy. Writegeist (talk) 16:30, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

My workers reported an area of pussywillows toward the rear of your estate. I would be interested in purchasing some of them for the Spring planting season. My great aunt (she took part in some of the early Masters and Johnson studies) ocne told me that "You can never have too many pussywillows." Good advice I think. Beers! ```Buster Seven Talk 22:52, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

RfC/U

The supportive editor I am about to carefully select (I shall canvasse him on his talk page) is invited to support my view in this Request for Comment/Underwear: Should editors be permitted to contribute to Wikipedia while naked?

My view is that such editing is clearly contrary to the section of Wikipedia's Sixth Pillar that reads "Editors shall not edit in the nude. They must be attired in underwear de minimis, as anything less is outre [sic] and contravenes WP:IDON'TWANTTOSEETHAT. Any other random policy or guideline that springs to my mind may also be cited, along with some fatuous bluster about "how Wikipedia works", as it's traditional for anyone demonstrating they haven't a clue how it works to bang on and on about how it works.

Please note, opposing views will be deleted. Writegeist (talk) 17:17, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Users who support this view:

1. Writegeist (talk) 17:17, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
2. Buster Seven Talk 20:45, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
3. Indeed! Buster3.5 (talk) 17:17.5 22 December 2012 (UTC)

@Ediotr Geist. Your desire to promote nude editing has been determined to be first sign of Web-sanity. In our continuing effort to safeguard ALL Wikipedia Editors, special arrangements have been made to provide for your well being pursuant to your current mental health issues. A special safe room has been prepared for your immediate use by The Foundation. It is just down the hall, third door, on the left side. A palm print scanner will allow only access by yourself and neccesary Foundation personnel (The folks you see with the white lab coats and the golden shoulder epillettes. The folks without the epillettes are Security). Come as you are; no suitcase or garments are required. Proper Institutioal attire will be provided. Your use of the room is completely self-determined by you and any consequences of your decision to enter our outside the perview of The Foundation. Once you enter, assistance will be provided within 24 hours (They are short-staffed). Just make yourself comfortable in the middle of the room. The padding and the lack of furniture are for your protection. Someone will be with you shortly. Have a nice day! ```Warden Ward D. En)

New Barnstar

		The Excellent Editor's Barnstar A new editor on the right path
		A friend, User:Gtwfan52, recently created this barnstar for New Editors.. Ive edited this particular one just for you. I know you are not as active as you once were and that is Wikipedia's loss. Over the years you have been a supportive friend and a valuable resource. Your insights into a situation were always "spot on" and delivered in your special way. Hope all is well with you and yours. ```Buster Seven Talk 14:26, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Buster!

Your unique blend of kind-heartedness, generosity of spirit, patience and good humour, not to mention the monogrammed speedo you wear over your tights, are unique assets to ye olde pedia, and your friendship is a blessing to me. I greatly appreciate your support. I shall always wear it. We are all well, and hope the same applies in the Buster family. Our friend Cartier-Bresson sends his regards. Herewith also mine (in black and white, like C-B's!). Visit again soon. Make yourself at home—push the (stuffed) cat off the (overstuffed) arm chair; help yourself from the drinks cupboard. Feel free to check out the Cézanne in the downstairs toilet and compare it with yours (the Cézanne, not the toilet). Writegeist (talk) 16:33, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

• Your mention of cat and toilet reminds me. We have adopted a cat, unstuffed. He arrived at out backdoor Christmas morning. I think Santa was over "cookie and milk"ed and just started to leave stuff willy-nilly. We named him Star as in "Christmas Star". He is black with a white medallion star on his chest. We got him a litter box and the best cat food a fixed income could buy. He has been neutered (ouch!) and had shots. Also... He has shit and pissed in every corner of the house which, BTW, began to smell like the Lincoln Park Zoo. We love him. He currently lives in the basement until he learns how to flush the toilet. We have re-named him. His new name is Star-R, Starr...after Ringo. Buster Seven Talk

Good to hear of the Christmas addition to the Buster family. Aptly renamed. Years ago, when God was a boy, Ringo came to visit for a weekend and I had to lock him in the basement for the same reasons. Well, that and he kept drumming with his knife and fork on the Louis XVI dining table. He asked to borrow ten shillings and promised ten percent of all his future earnings in return, but I could see he'd never make it as a drummer and turned him down. Writegeist (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

• • Dogs are stupid while Cats, on the other hand, are cunning. Starr has convinced Sadie to start sleeping on the outdoor grill instead of her comfortable doggie pillow. ```Buster Seven Talk 13:25, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Please don't tell Mrs. Writegeist about these sleeping arrangements. Writegeist (talk) 15:36, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Saint Sarah Is Out

Ex-Gov Grizzly will no longer be a political commentator (?) on Fox News. Her relationship with CEO Roger Ailes – who hired her because “she was hot and got ratings” – is reported to have been "prick-lish". Makes one wonder which one was the "prick-lier" of the two. ```Buster Seven Talk 09:16, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

For one delightful moment I thought you mean she was "out" in an altogether different sense. Writegeist (talk) 18:38, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

RIR

Barek's presence had appeared rather calm and helpful. More so, perhaps, than some might like. Now I see user C has contacted a very different sysop [47] . She often refers to herself in the third person (which George will surely appreciate!); as a dog. Some years ago, as C will have recalled, I had a kerfuffle with this particular sysop [48] which resulted in the inevitable block [49] and grovel [50] .

The idea of trying to discuss the lead or anything else with C (I note his renewed attack on you, this time with an SPA accusation) and his chosen sysop is of absolutely no interest or pleasure to me, so I'll withdraw unless/until Killer chooses to entrust the VS policing to the mild-mannered, maturely behaved Barek, who of course already has an eye on the proceedings, and who seems perfectly able to assist without recourse to bark or bite. Good luck with your efforts to improve the article. Writegeist (talk) 16:30, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean to say that Collect solicited an editor to weigh in, knowing that this editor is hostile towards you? If so, that doesn't seem appropriate. I hope you reconsider as I would hate to see a productive and objective editor being chased away. I think ArbCom might be the best way to address the chronic issues plaguing that article. Rhode Island Red (talk) 16:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I believe you are correct about the solicitation. I think of ArbCom as kind of a last resort when other avenues for resolution have failed; have you considered/tried DRN yet? I seem to remember seeing VS there but I have watched it (and DRN etc.) for a long time; and also I have the impression that various users have been dragging you (and VS stuff) to the dramaboards in what look rather like attempts to get their own way; so maybe I'm just imagining VS issues have already been raised at DRN. Writegeist (talk) 19:16, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Incidentally I regard GL's block warning to you today as wikilawyering a content dispute to try to force an editor with a different position into submission. (IMO the claim that the material is "unsourced or poorly sourced" is specious - my understanding is that supporting RSs have been provided more than once.) I agree with you that some form of dispute resolution seems to be called for, to prevent this dragging on and on. Writegeist (talk) 17:42, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

And I note this comment from one of the admins already present at the VS talk page. Writegeist (talk) 18:03, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Your mention of this kerfuffle [51] took me back to when we first met, in Sarah's back yard, When I realized where and when the diff was from I had to read it all. Thanks for wasting the last hour of my life!!! ```Buster Seven Talk 04:32, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Any time! Writegeist (talk)

Hello again RIR. LR's closing requirement to exclude MLM from the article is of course a piss-poor decision. Phyllis Berman, a senior editor at Forbes (RS for business info), states unequivocally in her 2004 article If you Believe that Melaleuca is "a pyramid selling organization, built along the lines of Herbalife and Amway." Further, BLP states:" Criticism and praise should be included if they can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone." So even if important information is regarded by some as negative, there is no BLP requirement to exclude it for that reason. But as I expected, sheer inexperience, or possibly a bias apparent in his response to an MLM exclusionist baiting you (baiting is one strategy, incidentally, that I've seen used by editors in content disputes to try to get opponents shut down or blocked, whether or not that was the case here; another is the vexatious RfC/U), have led LR into misrepresenting policy to justify forcing the exclusion; and also to close the RfC early despite a clearly stated objection to his handling the close. Oh well. Admineptitude is not uncommon in the wild and woolly world of Wikipedia. All the best, Writegeist (talk) 18:35, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

A New Brew

Put down your and replace it with a File:Fucking-hell-original.png. The Civility Police are not going to be happy. Beers!```Buster Seven Talk 08:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Neither are those pesky Image Police, apparently! But at least they left the German lady of the night (gotta love dem dirndls!)... Thank you for that! Writegeist (talk) 22:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Todays Harvest

You know me. I walk around Wikiworld with a wheelbarrow, collecting "stuff". Check out User talk:Noetica#Leaving Wikipedia, as promised. There is mention of a favorite admin. ```Buster Seven Talk 04:07, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah. Woof woof! And in other news: this gentleman has finally been sent off to Rio and this one has "retired". Writegeist (talk) 22:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Tiptibism. Somebody is makin' stuff up again. ```Buster Seven Talk 22:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

When an admin retires...do they get to keep the Bentley ??? Actually this is just a test to see in the copyrightinfringementbot is gonna zap this. It will look great on the mantle at my page. ```Buster Seven Talk 05:16, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Just like I thought. the copyrightinfringementgeek came by and removed the huge winged "B" I had over the front gate. It was beautiful...but it didnt last. Beers!```Buster Seven Talk 14:58, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Diplomat

Please see Marco Rubio#Information on grandfather and WP:BLP/N#Marco Rubio's Grandfather. I'm always so very impressed with MC's clarity of thought and clear expression of tolerance toward the wayward and pernicious inclinations of ludicrous hullabaloo-ers. ```Buster Seven Talk 19:22, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes indeedy. Always good to see examples of cool, measured reasoning presented with an undercurrent of mockery—a pleasant change from the revisionists' habitual huffing and puffing, interspersed with the occasional screech as they herniate under the weight of the buckets of whitewash they drag from article to talk page to notice board. Oh joy! Writegeist (talk) 20:29, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Senator John McCain was at a meeting in Arizona with his constituents yesterday. One man yelled that only guns would discourage illegal immigration. Another man complained that illegal immigrants should never be able to become citizens or vote. A third man said illegal immigrants were illiterate invaders who wanted free government benefits. Reading this in the Press made me think of the Rights Newest Darling and how, if he were of Mexican descent instead of Cuban, he would most likely be a very good landscaper, making below minimum wage and hiding from every policeman he saw. He would not have recieved financial aid for his education. He could not vote so how on earth could he run for office, state or National. ANY opportunities for career advancement would not exist. And the 3 gentlemen in Arizona would either shoot him or put him on a bus "back to Mexico". They wouldn't send him to make the SOTU rebuttal speeach! Or 'sell"him as the next possible candidate for POTUS.```Buster Seven Talk 15:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Ducks deserve more protection than kids

I'm placing this here because its important and maybe your 3 stalkers are different editors than my three stalkers.

Why do gun advocates think ducks deserve more protection than our children do? That's what some people are saying. We've had a gun magazine capacity limit in place for decades for duck hunters of three rounds. Any more and you lose your right to hunt ducks, pay a hefty fine, and could even go to jail. You are also reqired by law to use less lethal, but still effective, steel shot. But....to protect our citizens, including our children, the gun advocates say, "Ten rounds is too restrictive". The fact is that what was uniformly accepted to protect migratory birds is a bridge to far when it comes to protecting people. The time to coddle the gun advocates has passed. They can escape reality in their own homes and on subjects that do not endanger the rest of the nation, but on this topic the time to act is now. People ARE more important than waterfowl, and I'm tired of hearing that one person's right to play Army with their drinking buddies trumps another person's right to life. They are endangering society for absolutely no reason. ```Buster Seven Talk 06:47, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I stumbled upon the article Active shooter. We had the Local Chief of Police advise us on strategies and tactics and I wanted to see what our beloved WP had to say on the subject. I had to make some quick changes because the article promoted individual, rather than police, response. I seriously think the NRA wrote the article. Interestingly there has been very little talk or discussion on the talk pages. I don't know how you feel about it, but the most insidious argument for un-regulated gun ownership is that arming the victim is the best deterent to these "crazed killers". Most studies NOT conducted by the NRA reveal a different result. Anyway, I am going to start editing the article, with care and consideration. I'm SURE I will get a backlash. I just wanted to let a friend know that I was "going into the enferno." ```Buster Seven Talk 19:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Take one of these. And don't forget one of these as well :) Writegeist (talk) 21:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Rewired

I see you have updated the security system. Nice. Is it a McAfee 2000?. Just dropped by to relate a little story I uncovered as I wandered here and there...

There once was a little boy named Johnny who had a wonderful dog named Laddie. Johnny was prone to emotional outbursts, and his mother was concerned by his overreactions. One day while Johnny was at school, Laddie was killed in an unfortunate accident. The mother took Laddie's body and put it in the backyard. She was very worried how Johnny would react to the news of his dog's death. When Johnny returned from school, his mother said to him, "I'm really sorry, Johnny, but Laddie died in an accident." Johnny responded "Okay" and went upstairs to change his clothers. The mother was quite surprised at the calm reaction. After Johnny put on his play clothes, he went out to the backyard. All of a sudden, the mother heard Johnny screaming. She rushed out to the backyard and saw Johnny prostrate over the dog's body and wailing. The mother said, "But, Johnny, I told you Laddie died." In between sobs, Johnny sputtered, "I thought you said Daddy."

```Buster Seven Talk 08:27, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Crap

Thanks for teachin' me not to drink too much and to always rermember to have a I'm basically an Itinerant Wikopedian and sometimes I step in shit. Thanks for lettin' me scrape my boots on yer front lawn!```Buster Seven Talk

COI template

I have initiated a discussion at Village Pump Proposals regarding applying Template:COI editnotice more broadly, in order to provide advice from WP:COI directly onto the article Talk page. Your comment, support or opposition is invited. Cheers. CorporateM (Talk) 19:51, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Smoke and mirrors

Got pope?

nope!

I'd volunteer but the the car that goes with the job is even crappier than the one I already have. And I don't look good in hats or gowns.

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Collectins are a sub-conscious and debilitating part of the innate immune system. Collectins are soluble pattern recognition receptors (PRRs). They bind pathogen-associated molecular patterns (PAMPs) and also danger-associated molecular patterns (DAMPs) of pathological origin. Binding of collectins to microorganisms may trigger elimination of microorganisms by aggrevation, complementary activation of negative response mechanisms, option elimination, activation of elocution-cytosis and inhibition of intellectual growth. Other functions of collectins are hyper-modulation of inflammatory, allergic responses, and adaptive immune systems. Fair Warning: Collectins are to be avoided at all costs. Proximity to collectins has been known to cause severe brain swelling and possible death. Just thought you should know. ```Buster Seven Talk 20:25, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

A recent MRI disclosed what my nearest and dearest had long suspected: my brain is so miniscule that there's almost unlimited potential for swelling in the large cranial cavity :) . I am comforted by something Sylvia Kristel said to me with some enthusiasm when she was leaving Paris to make a Hollywood film with a certain actor: "The size of a man's brain is in inverse proportion to the size of his dick. And I'm told [the actor] is not the brightest bulb on the tree." Hope you don't mind that I slightly modified your post and added a wikilink. Writegeist (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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....in accordance with your open door policy. In the words of J. Wales, "I do not consider alerting me to any topic to be canvassing."```Buster Seven Talk 12:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC) Always a pleasure to read your interpretation of ongoings here in WikiWorld. You so correctly call out many (over half) of the opposes for just registering their gripes about what basically is "You have filled out the wrong form. You must re-submit a RfC-1099-t Form...in triplicate before we can comment on the Meat of your proposal. In the meantime, we will revel in our righteousness". Thanks, ```Buster Seven Talk 21:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)