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== September 2014 ==
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In spain or Spanish club

Hi, I just wanted to say that there is no reason to replace Spanish club with in Spain, or d you have a reason? It is better wording to say it is a spanish club and also they dont only play in spain (CL and EL matches outside spain) but they are always a spanish club. And it sounds better. QED237 (talk) 18:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To me it does not matter, just reversed because the guy entered La Liga ... and there is a consensus that it should no longer use.User:Gringoladomenegatalk 31 July 2014 (UTC)
So why did you do this edit? That makes no sence to me. QED237 (talk) 18:19, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, buddy, that was before you explain it any other way is better. Either that or back to move. User:Gringoladomenegatalk 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Piped club names at Guillermo Ochoa

Hello. I don't want to start warning you for disruption, there's been too much of that recently, but I don't think un-piping all the club names at Guillermo Ochoa was particularly constructive. Perhaps you'd like to comment at Talk:Guillermo Ochoa#To pipe club names or not as to why you think that change should be made? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:48, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. So, usually Spanish clubs are used with the initials, Málaga CF, Sevilla FC, ​​FC Barcelona. From what I observe, English only clubs not. Have the player career summary, it is admitted that the name be shortened, but the story is used the entire name. Gringoladomenega (talk) 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Pau López

The article Pau López has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:13, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Help

I will, but not right now. But I promise that I'll drop some lines later. Cheerio, MYS77 22:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wrote some stuff there, hope it helps. Cheers, MYS77 23:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you reverting him? Didn't get it, and you didn't dropped a word in the edit summary, so...

I saw that you removed the pipe in all Atlético's canteranos. Why?

MYS77 17:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yet no answer... Well, thanks! MYS77 04:10, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We talked last year (about Rayo Vallecano players, i told that RAYO B was enough in the infobox, you agreed with me), now i see you are doing the same with Atlético Madrid players, why? If the player has played for ATLÉTICO C, ATLÉTICO B and ATLÉTICO A no need for the full name, is there?

Please reply, in this page if possible, or MYS77's page. Tchau! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:37, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please answer my (and AL too) messages instead of removing stuff without explaining? MYS77 01:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
É difícil entender: O PeeJay coloca no box Real Zaragoza no Ander Herrera, pois, conforme ele, esse é o nome do clube, e não pode ser abreviado apenas para Zaragoza, mas vocês querer deixar Atlético B, quando o nome é Atlético Madrid B. Ou seja, cada um faz de um jeito. É difícil assim.--Special:Contributions/Gringoladomenega (talk) 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Não ligues ao PeeJay, nada a fazer quanto a esse cara e outros utilizadores, deixa ele ter o Ander Herrera como ele quer, nada a fazer. Mas, POR FAVOR, deixa Atlético C ou B nos outros jogadores (a não ser que tenha jogado no Manchester United, aí nada a fazer acho eu), nós sabemos bem que não faz mal nenhum abreviar nomes de certos clubes, não ligues para eles. Nós sabemos muito bem que o Real Zaragoza também é conhecido simplesmente como Zaragoza, tal como TODOS os outros clubes que não o Real Madrid e Real Sociedad, são os únicos que levam sempre "Real".

Obrigado --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Já vi também que concordas com eles em vez de connosco (apesar de não haver consenso nenhum) no escrever "club" no intro, OK tudo bem, não percebo mas tudo bem. Eu cá (exemplo Ricardo Horta) sei perfeitamente que o Málaga CF é um clube de futebol, não é um cão nem um bolo, mas tudo bem, desisto.

Aliás, nem sei como é que ainda não me fui embora, ainda por cima tendo trabalho A SÉRIO agora. Atentamente --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Allright, you want to leave Atlético B's players unpiped. OK. But take a look in Rayo Vallecano B's page. Read the very first line of the article. Thanks, MYS77 19:46, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gerard

Hello User Gringoladomenega, the transfer is official see the Sevilla Web site and →http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/ufficiale-barcellona-deulofeu-in-prestito-al-siviglia-583919

Also the television who i am watching now has announced the transfer--Lglukgl (talk) 20:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He did not perform medical examination and not signed the contract.--Gringoladomenega (talk) 14 August 2014 (UTC)

HI

I don't know what the hell your problem is but I'm going to stop reverting your edits ONLY because I will get blocked. You seriously need to add your reasons for controversial edits on the edit summary. GoPurple'nGold24 21:32, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

August 2014

Information icon Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Raúl Jiménez, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. GoPurple'nGold24 23:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adeus

Depois da minha última wikiluta (ainda pior do que a do Panhead, pelo menos para mim), já estou curado de vez, agora vou mesmo embora, só parei aqui para me despedir. Se ficares curioso de saber o que foi, pergunta ao User:MYS77 e ele explica.

Tudo do melhor, tudo de bom e wikibom (se quiseres responder, for favor fá-lo aqui)

Translation: After my last wikifight (even worse than the one with Panhead, at least for me), i am cured for good, now i leave for sure, only stopped by to say goodbye. If you are curious about what happened, ask User:MYS77 and he'll explain.

All the best, all things good wikiwise or not (if you want to reply, please do so here) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:16, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK tudo bem, eu sei que não te fiz nada, vou de consciência tranquila. A única que pode parecer ofensiva foi quando disse ao MYS que estava um pouco chateado com a tua demora em responder, mas não acho que tenha sido agressivo da minha parte (OK alright, i know i haven't done anything to you, i leave with a clear conscience. The only thing that may seem offensive is when i told MYS i was a bit annoyed with you taking so long to answer, but i don't think that's aggressive on my part). --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:22, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, mas posso me ter esquecido disto, que também pode ser malintrepreatdo: também disse ao MYS que não sabia porque é que dizias que fazias uma coisa e depois fazias outra (aconteceu várias vezes comigo), se era de propósito ou por esquecimento ("de propósito" querendo dizer porque tinhas mudado de opinião entretanto, é 100% legítimo). Isso também não é um insulto, nem tão pouco uma crítica, é uma dúvida. Bom, não incomodo mais, ADEUS.

Translation: Ah, but i may have forgotten this, which can also be misinterpreted: i also told MYS i did not know why did you say your were doing one thing and then you did another (it happened several times with me), was it on purpose or did you forget about it ("on purpose" meaning you had changed your mind in the meantime, it's 100% legitimate). That it also not an insult, not even criticism, it's a doubt. Well, i won't bother anymore, GOODBYE. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 21:40, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Last chance

If you revert again without explanation or discussion I will report you for edit warring. Cheers. Lukejordan02 (talk) 21:10, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Explain what? You reverts to reverse without even looking. Pacheco is not part of the main team. Di María (capitalized). Sergio Ramos vice-captain, third is Marcelo and Pepe the following. And only Nacho.Gringoladomenega (talk) 20 August 2014 (UTC)
I shouldn't have to look if you actually used the edit summaries which I would expect every user to do, also you haven't explained your removal of references and Pacheco has been called up to the first team see the Madrid website. Lukejordan02 (talk) 21:41, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Gringo, you must use edit summaries. If you make changes without explaining your reasoning for them, what are editors supposed to think? Speaking of which, would you care to explain why you keep reverting my edits to Lionel Messi and Gerard Piqué? – PeeJay 19:05, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please explain why you think that runner-up positions should be added to Messi's list of honours? "They've always been there" is not a valid explanation, by the way. Also, there is no need to abbreviate "Real Zaragoza" in Ander Herrera's infobox, since the club is commonly known as "Real Zaragoza" in English and that name is still shorter than "Manchester United". Or do you want to reduce that to "Manchester" or "United" next? – PeeJay 11:52, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Munir

How is Munir not a first team player? He PLAYED for the FIRST TEAM! What else must he do? '''tAD''' (talk) 14:15, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I'm not Spanish, so I assumed that anybody in the first team would be a first team player. '''tAD''' (talk) 14:59, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Veo que Saúl lleva el 26 del Atleti, ¿por eso no es jugador del primer equipo? '''tAD''' (talk) 16:00, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
También, Gayá lleva el 31 del Valencia. ¿primer equipo o no? '''tAD''' (talk) 16:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Minha última tentativa (My last attempt)

Olá então, como vai isso?

Eh meu chapa, é só uma linha, importas-te de dizer porque é que estás zangado comigo (e estás, por favor não negues, sim eu já sei que por vezes te esqueces de responder a mensagens e o tempo passa, e devo respeitar isso, mas vejo-te a responder a outras mensagens, inclusive bem mais agressivas que as minhas)? Peço desculpa pelo que fiz (posso tê-lo feito e nem ter reparado), e depois JURO que não te incomodo mais.

Ah, e já agora, em termos 100% enciclopédicos: depois de eu corrigir, voltaste a reverter-me no Isaac Gómez, por favor lê a historinha, ele jogou primeiro no TIME SÉNIOR e só depois foi para os RESERVAS, quando apareceu no time principal ainda era JÚNIOR. Relacionado com este artigo também já percebi que, ao contrário do que tínhamos falado da outra vez, vais pôr RAYO VALLECANO B na caixinha. OK tudo bem, já não discuto mais esse tema.

Bom fim de semana, por favor responde nem que sejam vinte palavras ("Sim estou brabo, fizeste isto e isto e isto"). Obrigado, por favor responde na tua página.

Translation: Hi there, how's it going?

Hey man, just one line, do you mind why you're angry with me (and you are, please do not deny it, yes i know you sometimes forget to reply to messages and time goes by, and i must respect that, but i see you reply to other messages, some way more aggressive than mine)? I apologize for what i have done (i may have done it without noticing), and then i SWEAR i won't bother you anymore.

Ah, while we're at it, in 100% encyclopedical terms: after i corrected it, you reverted me again in Isaac Gómez, please read storyline, he played first with the SENIOR TEAM and only afterwards did he join the RESERVES, when he appeared for the main squad he was still a JUNIOR. In relation with this article i also have realized that, unlike we discussed the last time, will write RAYO VALLECANO B in the box. OK fine, i am done discussing this situation.

Happy weekend, please reply even if it's just twenty words ("Yes i am pissed off, you did this and this and this"). Thank you, please reply in your page. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 13:35, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Após ver uma mensagem do PJ na tua página, fui lá e defendi-te. Ele pede que por favor vás até lá e dês a tua opinião (Translation: After seeing a message from PJ in your page, i went there and defended you. He asks you to please go there and provide an opinion). --84.90.219.128 (talk) 13:48, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
E aí cara, tudo OK?
Não entendi nada disso também, se eu te fiz algum mal peço desculpas, mas também peço que explique o que aconteceu, só para esclarecer. Também percebi que você responde as mensagens dos outros, mas não as minhas.
Abraços, tudo de melhor.
Translation:
Hi man, everything is OK?
I didn't get nothing of this too, if I harmed you in some way I apologize, but I'm also wanting to know what happened, just to make it clear. I also saw that you're answering other people's message but not mine.
Cheers, all the best. MYS77 13:49, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, sem problemas, meu amigo! Achei que tinha ficado bravo conosco ou algo parecido. Bom fim de semana para ti também!
Translation: Oh, no problems, my friend! I thought you were angry with us or something like that. Happy weeken for you too! MYS77 21:09, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, all the best my friend! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 05:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

First of all, the runner-up information has not always been there. I'm pretty sure recent discussions at WT:FOOTY have determined that runner-up information should only be added if the player hasn't won anything else. Besides, any finals he played in should be mentioned in the article text; they are significant achievements, they're just not honours. He didn't win a trophy for coming second. As for Ander Herrera, I don't know what the situation is in Spain, but in the UK, the club is most commonly referred to as "Real Zaragoza"; same for Real Betis, Real Sociedad and Real Madrid. Other clubs drop the Real, but Real Zaragoza is one of them that we don't drop in the UK. Since this is the English Wikipedia, we should go by what English language sources do. – PeeJay 10:58, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and also, you keep removing "Santa Fe" from Messi's place of birth. There is more than one Rosario in Argentina, so we should add the state, don't you agree? – PeeJay 11:00, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

August 2014

Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edit to Dani Alves does not have an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, even if it is very brief, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history.

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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. Thanks! Wikicology (talk) 22:07, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Dani Alves: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Wikicology (talk) 22:07, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

September 2014

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Atlético Madrid. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. Stop with the hidden reverts without explanation. Should report for edit warring. diff QED237 (talk) 23:35, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]