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Nomination of Death of Binyamin Meisner for deletion
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Hi, Thanks for weighing in on the Backwaters Press article. I too think it is clearly notable and have done alot of work recently to preserve an outdated entry which unfortunately brought out the cry for deletion when it was updated. By the way, I have also been working on the Matt Mason (article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Mason_%28poet%29) which needs more work if it is to survive I fear and the article on Mayapple Press (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayapple_Press). Also in my sandbox, I have a new article readied on the Parallel Press at the University of Wisconsin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edward_Dixon/sandbox). Please feel free to look at these and make edits or comments if you would like. Edward Dixon (talk) 23:30, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Barbara Hines
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Some falafel for you!
Thanks for putting through the Islamist moves. I previously tried re "Islamic terrorism" yet, despite getting most of the support, the move didn't go through. Hope things go better this time GregKaye 19:13, 26 March 2015 (UTC) |
The good fight at Christian Terrorism
Thanks for wrestling that back from non-admin closure. On the opposite side of the coin is Rape jihad, a well-sourced article under attack which you may be interested in. Pax 22:04, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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Regarding voting in article AfD
Hello. Could you please add your opinion to the AfD vote for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hadith of the succession of Abu Bakr. I only ask this because i noticed you voted on a similar hadith issue. Thanyou.--58.106.235.75 (talk) 04:21, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hello, E.M.Gregory. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Death of Chris Currie, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:
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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. TheLongTone (talk) 14:45, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
I have deleted this article because it is substantially the same as the article deleted via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Currie. If you believe that AfD reached the wrong conclusion, or you have new evidence for the notability of the subject, you should raise an appeal at WP:DRV.-gadfium 21:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hello E.M. Gregory, Thanks for your encouragement with my first Wiki entry (Lois de Menil). It's a steep learning curve, but I hope to put these new skills to use on other entries down the line. I appreciate your kind words. Vwikiv (talk) 19:30, 19 April 2015 (UTC)Vwikiv
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To E.M.Gregory: I'm afraid I may be botching this by adding a 'new section' to your talk page, but wasn't sure how to respond to a talk message. At any rate, thank you very much for the encouraging words with regard to editing pages overall, and your support regarding the Mandel page. I'm grateful. (Do you know if there is a point where, if others concur, the Articles Proposed for Deletion tag can be removed?). Thanks once again, and best wishes. ReidWilliam ReidWilliam (talk) 18:03, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
There is. An AFD is allowed to run for 7 days (although it can be closed sooner if an article is rapidly tidied up and really persuasive secondary sources are added to the page) Ordinarily, After ~ 7 days, an editor will swing by and, if participating editors have come to a consensus, keep or delete it. If they have not reached consensus, or if too few editors have by and expressed opinions, the comment period will be extended, but sooner or later, an editor will make a decision to close the AFD discussion as: delete, keep, or "no consensus". If "no consensus" the article will be kept for the nonce in the hope that with time notability or lack thereof will become clear.
Think of it as like a legal proceeding, with judges doing their best. Topics (in this case, a writer) are judged not according to whether the commenting editor thinks that the writer is wonderful or dreadful, but according to whether reliable secondary sources discussing the writer exist. See WP:AUTHOR but also WP:GNG which might cover an author whose work is not highly regarded, but who has been profiled, repeatedly, in the press for some other reason. What the page needs to stay up is not articles by Mandel, but articles about him or about something he has written. He need not be the sole topic of such an article, there might, for example, be a short discussion of his work or life in an an article about writers who live in Providence. Interviews with him published in reputable publications. And book reviews in reputable publications.
The article is tagged for cleanup. Think of it as a writing exercise. You are being asked to write an article about Peter Mandel, his life and career. But zero creativity on your part. Every fact, from where he lives to what sort of writing he does must be drawn from the source(s) that appear at the end of every sentence.
There is indeed a real deadline here. 7 days after the AFD began, an editor can close it as delete. After that - even though good sources not now on the page exist - getting an article on Mandel back up will be a major production.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, again
To E.M.Gregory: Your explanation, above, and all of the information you were kind enough to provide is much appreciated. Thank you, again. I'll get back to work, and will try to be as careful as possible. Best wishes,ReidWilliam (talk) 21:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
To E.M.Gregory: Thanks, again, for your assistance and support. Just fyi, I'm continuing to work on adding links re: notability and on 'wikifying' the Mandel page, while repairing the footnotes and numbering. (I think I've finally figured that aspect out.) Bear with me, please. ReidWilliam (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- To E.M.Gregory and Fayenatic london: Thanks to you both for the editing and formatting help re: the Mandel page, and for your latest round of comments. With regard to notability, I've gone back and done a bit more research. Since it sounds like book reviews in major periodicals, significant awards, and work being anthologized are key, I've found some other relevant citations that I hadn't been aware of. These include several more of the author's books being reviewed in Publishers Weekly, Kirkus and The Horn Book; three journalism awards; and an anthology and edited collection that include the author's work. Am working on double-checking the citations. Please, if you would, give me a few hours on this. Many thanks. ReidWilliam (talk) 18:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- To E.M.Gregory and Fayenatic london: More to come, but as noted above, I've done some further research. With regard to the notability question, I've added citations for several more reviews of Mandel's books in major journals (Publishers Weekly, Kirkus). Have put these under 'External Links' so as not to disrupt the formatting. As well, I've added citations, under 'Other Works,' for two edited anthologies that include the author's work. One is an older collection of animal related essays in the "Chicken Soup" series, the other a recent anthology of travel journalism. There's another anthology, and two other journalistic awards that have popped up as well; am currently at work on verifying them. Thanks again for your patience. ReidWilliam (talk) 20:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory and Fayenatic london: With regard to notability, as mentioned above, I've added citations for two more Lowell Thomas awards from The Society of American Travel Writers. Articles of Mandel's for The Washington Post won bronze Lowell Thomas awards in 2003 and 2006. (Not that you perhaps care, but these are, at least given the evidence I've encountered, the premier national awards for American travel journalism.) Thanks for your patience, and best wishes. ReidWilliam (talk) 05:19, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
To E.M.Gregory: Many thanks for all of your advice and support re: the page on children's book author/travel journalist Mandel. I hope you'll forgive my showing up on your talk page again. I wondered if there might be any chance at all of getting that page out of purgatory (?). Looking back at the history, it looks as if it was first proposed for deletion on April 20, 2015; and that a week long extension was added to that on April 29th. It's been, I guess, a little more than 18 days now overall w. what seems to be a sort of stalemate from editors. To further bolster notability during this period, I've worked to add in citations for several reviews of the author's children's books in major journals, three edited anthologies that include articles and/or essays of his, and two more Lowell Thomas awards from The Society of American Travel Writers (which as far as I can tell, are the major national awards for American travel journalism.) Again, my apologies for taking up so much of your time with regard to the page. Thanks and best wishes. ReidWilliam (talk) 20:10, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- To E.M.Gregory: Thanks very much for explaining that. Doesn't sound too promising, but I'm grateful for all your help--and for the clarity. Best wishes, ReidWilliam (talk) 05:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Your view on reliable sources
To E.M.Gregory: The discussion about the entry for Lois de Menil continues and I would like to ask your opinion. The debate centers around the definition of reliable sources. The latest sources I have added include UNESCO proceedings and an exhibition catalogue from an art show at the Grand Palais, a major Paris museum. One wiki editor contends that this does not qualify as "mainstream, widely available, archival sources." I am having trouble seeing why Wikipedia would weigh a Vanity Fair article more heavily than a UNESCO proceeding. What is your take on this? Do you agree with the editor's interpretation of reliable source, or do you think there is room for interpretation here? I don't ask this question with the intention of getting you to lean in my favor, only to get another opinion, as I have valued your contributions to the discussion thus far. Vwikiv (talk) 10:47, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Vwikiv
A page you started (Christians in the Visual Arts) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating Christians in the Visual Arts, E.M.Gregory!
Wikipedia editor Bfpage just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:
Nice beginning for this new article. I would like to suggest that you include an organizational template as part of the article: Template:Infobox organization to provide more information about your organization. God Bless! - a Christian artist
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Copenhagen Denmark Temple
Hi! Thanks for your continuing efforts across WP. I noticed your good-faith addition to the article on the Copenhagen Denmark Temple. I started to clean it up a bit, but then wondered what the intent of the addition is and whether it actually should be retained in the article? Is this primarily to try and help establish notoriety, to address the sourcing and other concerns? I think there would be some question (such as [who?], [when?] or [how?]) the asserted notability was obtained. I don't know the author or her book, so obviously not the referenced story. Is the temple notable because of something in the story, or did the young missionary just happen to work in this temple? I also wonder about how a book detailing someone's story about leaving the Mormon Church helps establish the notability of a specific temple. Thanks for any clarifying thoughts you might have. ChristensenMJ (talk) 20:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Important missing information for "Richard K. Diran"
Hello, I can see that you've made great contributions to the Richard K. Diran wiki page and wanted to share more information, which would make wikipedia more valuable. The book Bangkok Babylon is used in many citations on Diran's wikipage, yet I don't think anyone has read the book thoroughly. I found a link from Google books which shows part of the interview with Mr. Diran in Bangkok Babylon, and certain things which he had stated that would correlate with the stolen Buddha and smuggled antiquities. Here is the link. https://books.google.com/books?id=eYDQAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT8&lpg=PT8&dq=romancing+the+stones+diran+bangkok&source=bl&ots=gf3J13jHBq&sig=tAYzbKwDOW6Wx2p6lC075LSB_6A&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PKwVYejEYmfsAW4yoCYAw&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=romancing%20the%20stones%20diran%20bangkok&f=false I have also found a webpage that discusses Mr. Diran's history, which may also be of value to you. http://stopsexslaveryofchildren.org/richard-k-diran.html
P.S. it seems that RickBrown has been deleting many important documented pieces from Diran's wiki page. I think he is working with Diran to remove the truth that may harm his reputation Thank you for helping to make wikipedia more accurate and dependable.Jjjulie6 (talk) 21:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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Notability of diplomats
Hi E.M.Gregory.
I actually watched this happen—the deletion of an ambassador's page—to Ian Biggs the other day. According to Wikipedia:Diplomatic notability, the office itself doesn't automatically confer notability upon the office holder. I'm not what you would call a 'deletionist' but I didn't put up a fight, as I couldn't find any media about Biggs that would make him seem notable aside from as an office holder (I was expecting some news articles about some of the things he had done on post, but couldn't find any).
The re-direct suggestion on Wikipedia:Diplomatic notability is an odd one, however, because many diplomats in Australia have held several posts - so where would you redirect to? For example, for Anne Plunkett - would you link to Ireland, Holy See or Portugal? - you cannot redirect to all three.
Oh, and for Plunkett, the additions you have made I would suggest are helpful establishing notability - for example that she accepted a Papal Rebuke on behalf of the Australian people for its treatment of Aboriginal people. Clare. (talk) 10:17, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- The only referencing on the Ian Biggs page was the ministerial press statements announcing his appointments.
- Also, sounds frustrating your edits being deleted if they are fully sourced, suggest put them back in (with sourcing), and add a quick section to the talk page with your justification. Don't use edits to fight with other editors, though—disagreements should be resolved through discussion (see Wikipedia:Edit warring).
- I'm watching the page now too, and will see if I can dig up any good sources and add some information when I next get a chance (probably tomorrow sometime).
- Good luck and happy editing! Clare. (talk) 11:36, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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I posted these templates here because of your behavior on Criminal rock throwing regarding the low-quality picture which you seem adamant on re-adding. Debresser (talk) 20:10, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
- A difference of opinion between two editors. I put an illustrative photo on the page criminal rock throwing. I found the photo at the page riot. It shows two young Frenchmen holding, presumably preparing to throw - rocks during an anti Sarkozy demonstration in Paris. DBresser's complaint is that it is dark. But the photo is at night, when riots often occur, and it is a good, clear photo. I am not sure why DBresser brought its here, rather than keeping it on the article's talk page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:23, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I've noticed you've put a hyperlink tag to Givon Art Gallery in this article. Currently there is no such article in Wikipedia. Are you going to create it, or I am going to revert the edit. Thank you Eran Shakine|Arthistorian1977]] (talk) 11:28, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- User:Arthistorian1977Creating the article now.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Nomination of Rachel Jacobs for deletion
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Sourcing the Rachel Jacobs article
User:E.M.Gregory, in response to the comment you posted on the AfD, what is needed in the article is adding background information from newspapers and magazines written about her prior to her death, not just adding more sources to the existing content on the page. The sentences in the Rachel Jacobs article are beginning to look over-sourced. This is just a friendly suggestion. Loading it with references for the existing content will not save the article. In the meantime, I will continue adding content with sources, not the reverse (adding sources to content already there and already sourced). Thank you. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 21:18, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Red links
You may not have noticed my follow-up response here. -- Hoary (talk) 22:22, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
AfDs
I noticed that a couple of AfDs you started last week Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Shawki (socialist) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Socialist Review (1997) were missing headers. This prevents the AfDs from showing properly on pages sucg as this, and may have other impacts as well. I suspect that a step in the initial AfD creation was missing. I added headers manually, which hopefully will resolve the issue. Rlendog (talk) 14:25, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Museum of Contemporary Religious Art
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Patrick Roscoe
I removed the content you added because I feel it is not the kind of content that should be put in the article's lead. Weegeerunner (talk) 16:07, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Ballpark Synagogue
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- Fascinating article! I was going to review it for DYK, but got interested in the sources and did some expansion instead. Whenever something is listed on the NRHP, it's important to include some architectural details, which I added. Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:16, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- No, sorry, no interior shots; I just drove past, got this image and one other that I didn't upload, and drove off to the next site on West LaSalle Avenue. Thanks for including the link; until I followed it, I assumed that you'd left a note for the wrong person :-) Nyttend (talk) 03:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
A bowl of strawberries for you!
Thank you for initiating and developing the Alice Goffman article. Hopefully the article will become more balanced as it is developed further... Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:29, 31 May 2015 (UTC) |
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Please help me with... listis The American Muslim for deletion. I have tried , and failed, utterly failed, to list it Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2015 June 3 and at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/News media. And please tell me where I went wrong.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:30, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:30, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- You seem to have listed it a half-dozen times. Please cease attempting to fix it and let me clean things up. Primefac (talk) 14:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the instruction on voting on a deletion page. And also for the The Writer's Barnstar. It's great to have the entries on linguists noticed! LingLass (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
D Seaman
I'll keep it short: what do you consider "disputed"? Please clarify, otherwise please do consider removing the tag.
- If it is Seaman's biographical data: it is not supported by any citation, but shouldn't be too controversial (Jewish, US, Israel, jobs & awards). He commented his own edits several times in the first person singular ("I know best where I live").
- If you mean his verbal attacks and his controversial acts as a leading govt. employee, those are all very well backed up by citations.
So please, before making readers mistrust a page which contains only undisputed, or disputed but well backed facts, do more than drop a tag and leave it to its own devices. I will be happy to give you more info. Should you chose though to stay out of this, I will consider that it's OK to remove that tag. Thank you. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 16:08, 11 June 2015 (UTC)Arminden
Hi. I'm on my way out from WP, but some very few articles I'm keeping an eye on. Daniel Seaman is a top "hasbara" right-winger who always allowed his political inclinations to take precedence over civility. Just read the quotes mentioned in the article, and these are just a selection. He treated every perceived "enemy" with the basest type of expletives, f-words included, dissenting journalists were refused Israeli press cards not in an open manner, but by intentional foot-dragging techniques, etc. He was supposed to head the new Israeli department created to coordinate a project having foreign students and such from Israel fluent in foreign languages work anonymously and for pay from the government, and promote right-wing positions through the online media such as Facebook, Twitter and different forums, when the Japanese gov. strongly protested his rude postings and he had to be ousted, rather unwillingly, by his pals in the Netanyahu government. He is a skillful media man, fully taken by his "mission", short-tempered, rude, who knows how to use rhetorical means to give any story the "right" (forgive the pun) twist. Now out of a government position, he is heading a new private online radio station. No problem with that, except that since 1947 the name "Voice of Israel", in Hebrew "Kol Israel", is already taken! It was and still is the name of the official radio broadcast. They (he?) are using the twist that "Kol Israel" is a registered mark, while its widely used English translation "Voice of Israel" apparently isn't explicitly so. That's Seaman at his best for you, even if the idea wasn't maybe his. Now listeners of this strongly right-wing station, staffed with Anglo editors able to sugarcoat their message, are easily and intentionally confused into believing that they are listening to a government-sponsored, vetted and neutral radio station.
Mr Seaman's WP page, until taken under scrutiny by a few people after the scandal hit the fan due to the Haaretz article, was a purely self-crafted CV, maybe even a copy-and-paste version of the CV he used when applying for a job. Every now & then, either Mr Seaman himself or somebody from his circles "drops by", always anonymously (without an editor's account) and tries to remove every last bit of info from the page that sounds like criticism. You are the first one in years who suggests rewriting the page, while using a proper WP name and account with contributions on more than just ONE single topic: Mr DS. There is a well-oiled and -financed, govt-sponsored machinery of online "hasbara" on one side, and a number of individual editors on the other. Please do keep that in mind, should you insist in redoing this article. Of course, by pasting together bits of Mr DS's sanitised own CV, next to his every bit as real professional and verbal excesses and the criticisms they induced, creates a weird juxtaposition. But that's WP to you, as long as both sides are presenting well-sourced facts, they must stay next to each other, with no explanatory "binding sauce", which would be reverted as "bias" and "point of view".
Please notice that almost all facts regarding the life and official career are NOT SOURCED, they haven't been touched by me or any other critical editor so that we cannot be accused of bias. DS's horrible verbal excesses, as well as all other critical bits on the other hand, are all well sourced and proven. Imagine the page with all its unsourced data missing: you'd be left with just the controversies! Cheers, Arminden (talk) 08:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)Arminden
Thanks
Hey thanks for your advice on the Devlin article, unfortunately an admin closed the discussion (which seemed unfair as people were still presenting evidence, I asked him to reconsider, but expect he'll just ignore me like the other WP users - unless you have a billion edits no one takes you seriously on this regardless of the strength or depth of an argument). Quirinus X (talk) 23:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Just as I presented the Young Blood profile they closed it. Within minutes. I'll hang on to see if there's any more coverage, their convention is due soon. Have spent enough time on it tbh. Another page I created, Barry Saul, went through without a peep? Go figure. Quirinus X (talk) 00:05, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Suggestions to improve article
Hi, You voted to delete this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nmwalsh/Annuity_Shopper_Buyer%27s_Guide on May 5 last. Any suggestions for improving it and making it acceptable? Nmwalsh (talk) 10:22, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Ballpark Synagogue
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Thanks, if you get a moment then give out a barnstar today. Victuallers (talk) 07:27, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Patrick Roscoe
I just went to my corner store for a quick junk food run, and something suddenly hit me: you talk about seeing a source in which Roscoe more or less disavowed the more flamboyant aspects of his early marketing bio. That's a source I'll admit to having missed out on — but what suddenly hit me is that it just might buy us a way forward after all: if we can actually source that he disavowed it, then that buys us a way to talk about the gay prostitute thing as a promotional hook instead of asserting it as simple biographical fact the way we did before. Could you throw me the citation details, if you have them handy, so that I can take a look at that article? Bearcat (talk) 01:50, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Canelo (Publisher)
You suggested deletion of the Canelo (Publisher)page. I've added to the discussion on the page itself, but any advice you have for making the article more appropriate would be much appreciated. We're keen to provide basic information without losing balance or making any exaggerated or biased claims. I've listed some of the coverage we've received as evidence of notability, and could provide further references if required. There will be further coverage (and excitement!) imminently, when we announce our first books. Thanks for your consideration. (Iainmillar18 (talk) 07:14, 16 June 2015 (UTC)).
- I take your point. The page needs immediate expansion from existing sources, and an info box with link to company page, logo, etc. How imminent? If it's a matter of days, you might mention it on the deletion discussion page. It cannot be an actual argument, just the fact that titles will be announced on such a day and the fact that there may be news coverage of the event. Wikipedia does not find a prediction that there will be coverage useful.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:44, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Incomplete DYK nomination
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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Sulfurboy (talk) 05:20, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Philip Benedict
Hi EM Gregory! Do you have any thoughts on this dispute? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.161.20.219 (talk) 05:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Barbara Hines (immigration attorney)
I have addressed the issues you flagged with Barbara Hines (immigration attorney). Can you remove the issue tags? Mbcoats (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Patrick Roscoe
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- Please see new note on the DYK nomination template. Yoninah (talk) 10:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, E.M.Gregory. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Monica Green (historian), for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Monica Green (historian) to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.
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Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK nomination of Max-Liebling House
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Nomination of 2015 Shuvat Rachel shooting for deletion
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But... what's wrong with molasses being bitter and stronger than golden syrup? I like both! Deryck C. 08:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
This may one may have to be redirected to Smith_baronets#Smith_baronets.2C_of_Keighley.2C_Yorks_.2828_June_1947.29 and Charles Bracewell-Smith equally has issues while George's father Bracewell Smith looks a little better. My searches found this, this (first two results, passing) and this (mentions Charles Bracewell-Smith). Thoughts? SwisterTwister talk 19:43, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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Writing memorial articles
Hi, You can't use Wikipedia as a place to memorialise non-notable people just because you want to memorialise them. See WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Regarding article titles, see WP:TERRORIST. Zerotalk 15:55, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Shooting of Danny Gonen is obviously not a case of WP:NOTMEMORIAL.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- You can argue that on the AfD page I just created. But the purpose of the page is pretty obvious. Zerotalk 16:17, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. It has exactly the same purpose as my edits on 2015 Chattanooga shootingsE.M.Gregory (talk) 16:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- You can argue that on the AfD page I just created. But the purpose of the page is pretty obvious. Zerotalk 16:17, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Shooting of Danny Gonen is obviously not a case of WP:NOTMEMORIAL.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
July 2015
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shooting of Danny Gonen. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Please don't post false accusations on my talk page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Max-Liebling House
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Simon Cottee
As per your suggestion, I've created a stub article about Simon Cottee. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
1RR violation at Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries
You just broke the 1RR rule at Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries. Expanding as well as reverting doesn't make it not a revert. I invite you to self-revert quickly so as to avoid being officially reported. Zerotalk 01:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- As you can see on the talk page, our edits were simultaneous.. I.E. I did not realize that you had removed the material when I clicked to add new material.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- You and your cohort are , however to be congratulated, on effective WP:OWN.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:18, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- As you can see on the talk page, our edits were simultaneous.. I.E. I did not realize that you had removed the material when I clicked to add new material.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have to say the special rules on Arab-Israel related pages have the opposite effect of what they are claimed to have as their goal. Having such threats of sanctions if you edit means that editors who do not care deeply about the issues involved will run for their lives, and only editors who care deeply, which translates generally to editors who are very biased for one side or the other, are likely to make edits to the pages.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:58, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it certainly has that effect.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:37, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Discouragement
I am a little discouraged about the outcome of the Carroway discussion. Cavarrone's claims about LDS Living being "just a content aggregator" is false. It is a magazine that creates its own content. Related to this is the bizarre heading to the article on Hannah Clayson Smith that claims the article lacks references or sources. I made sure to wait until I had multiple ones before putting up the article. The best ones are connected with either the Becket Fund or the Deseret News, with a few others doing OK being BYU publications. No one else has yet bothered to give her much coverage, but her roles in various cases involving the Becket Fund does get a lot of reference. I have held off removing the totally bizarre claim to no references or sources because I have found that doing so often generates more push-back against an article. With the trajectory that the Becket Fund in on with a growing case load and more of them reaching it to the Supreme Court, the longer I can hold off on a facedown on the article the better off it will be.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Contraty to what Cavarrone says, I am not accusing everyone of bigotry. Only those who try to make blanket rules that exclude all Mormon created sources and Mormon friendly sources from being considered reliable. These people are a mix of willfully ignorant of Kellerism and believers in its principals.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- Add sources. Remove tag. I understand Deseret as a valid and reliable source on news, facts, although not accepted to establish the notability of church related topics. Carroway worked for a church-owned media company. I did have a problem with the refusal to accept non Church-owned news sources in that AFD. merely because they are in Utah.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- What you said elsewhere about discouraging editors is so true, User:Johnpacklambert I just has the experience of being so horrified by two article about terror attacks on Israelis. Extremely well-sourced articles showing links with demonstrated impact. One was immediately taken to AFD and deleted after a series of editors with intense views on the Middle East all voted to delete, and every usually neutral editor stayed away. I think it's not simply that the rules in that area are daunting for editors lacking partisan passion, I think it's the tone of the debate and the personal attacks that are visited on anyone who dabbles a toe into the Middle East.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:Johnpacklambert Here's a bit of a theory to cheer you up. Mormons, like many people with serious commitments, are too busy running businesses, rearing children, and making sure the pantry of the local soup kitchen is full to have time to fight battles on Wikipedia.
- Perhaps LDS Living just needs a better WP page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:Johnpacklambert Here's a bit of a theory to cheer you up. Mormons, like many people with serious commitments, are too busy running businesses, rearing children, and making sure the pantry of the local soup kitchen is full to have time to fight battles on Wikipedia.
- What you said elsewhere about discouraging editors is so true, User:Johnpacklambert I just has the experience of being so horrified by two article about terror attacks on Israelis. Extremely well-sourced articles showing links with demonstrated impact. One was immediately taken to AFD and deleted after a series of editors with intense views on the Middle East all voted to delete, and every usually neutral editor stayed away. I think it's not simply that the rules in that area are daunting for editors lacking partisan passion, I think it's the tone of the debate and the personal attacks that are visited on anyone who dabbles a toe into the Middle East.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- You have a point about the tone. Just reading the calling of Israeli organizations as "not particularly known for telling the truth" and the like makes me so made, that I know there is no way I can calmly edit the issues. I try to keep up on AfDs, but there are a lot.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:35, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Robin N. Hamilton AfD debate
I just wanted to reach out to see if you had a chance to read my rebuttal to your argument on your probable delete vote. I'd love to reach consensus to keep the article, and I've made a bunch of edits and laid out some arguments that I'm hoping will sway you to the Keep side. The article now has 30 references.
Thanks, Techtacular (talk) 12:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Delete vanity article unsupported by sources - Lori St John
For your reference and ease in review I have compiled a list of just some of the secondary sources you will find Ms. Urs, now Lori St John. Mention of Lori Urs (now St John) in Secondary Sources
New England School of Law http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.6.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt
http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.3.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt, Urs referenced and acknowledged throughout the article as the reason one of 3, 000 death row cases became an international cause. See columns, 1, 3, and 4, noting: column 1: Days after the Supreme Court stayed O’Dell’s execution on Dec. 17, the New York Times reported “there can’t be many people left in Italy who never heard of O’Dell. The “nagging question” the story asked was “how this case was singled out for Italy’s’ national embrace. They need have looked no further than Urs, a driven woman who has dedicated her life to saving O’Dell’s. Column 2, O’Dell’s case was already known in Italy via the Internal... but but so too were the cases of more than 3,000 other Americans on death row across the country, and no one was demonstrating about any of them until Urs reached Farkas.” Column 3: After the story ran (front page story of the most widely circulated newspaper in Italy), Neri, a locally elected official representing the region of Umbria , called Farkas looking for Urs, and things took a political turn. Column 5- “ In January, Urs toured Italy to thank O’Dell supporter and drummed up more attention. Ferrarotti, the sociologist, appeared on a television show with Urs during the visit. He said Urs “captured the imagination of the Italian public at large. I was quite amazed myself. He said she was “very forceful, very attractive, obviously very dedicated and you know all of this put together somehow made an impact.” Leoluca Orlando, major of Palermo, made O’dell an honorary citizen.
Urs was invited by the Italian Parliament, who sponsored her trip, to tour the country of Italy. She began her tour in the President’s office, meeting with his aid, and then met with the President of the Senate, President of Constitutional Affairs and numerous high dignitaries throughout Italy, including doing a TV show with then Foreign Affairs Prime Minister Dini.
She was also invited twice to the Vatican, met the Secretary of State, who gave her a rosary from the Pope and was invited back to meet privately with Pope John Paul II, at the Vatican. She also received a phone call from Mother Teresa, in acknowledgement of her work, and invited her to stay with her in Calcutta. See The Corruption of Innocence, a Journey for Justice, pages 326, 338-9, 340, 441, 440-1, 417, 417, 427, 429,
World’s appeals can’t stay execution http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.5.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt
Philadelphia Inquirer: http://www.loristjohn.com/TPI-1.1.html
About Urs... read how her mission led her to take extraordinary measures to obtain the evidence for posthumous DNA testing.
A Jersey woman’s fight for justice http://blog.nj.com/perspective/2013/10/when_injustice_proves_too_diff.html
Urs (now St John )and her story, purchased for the film adaptation by J. Miles Dale http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/10/fl-creative-production-idUSnBw105718a+100+BSW20130910
Lori Urs debates evidence with Commonwealth Attorney Humphreys in Virginia, http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.4.html
New York Times; Front page Lori Urs’ website page was the first to be noted for its uniqueness, reaching people worldwide, where a petition was started to fee O’Dell. This same web site was the one picked up by 24 hours in Cyberspace (see wikki) for her notability in touching human lives around the world. see the wikki article about 24 hours in Cyberspace http://www.loristjohn.com/NYT-1.1.html
Washington Post
see picture of Lori Urs with Sister Helen Prejean. She called a press conference and recruited the famous nun to join her cause to save Joseph O’Dell. http://www.loristjohn.com/NYT-1.1.html
International- Italy See http://www.loristjohn.com/ItalianMedia-5.1.html
Message to Lori Urs from Mother Teresa, who phoned her personally in August. http://www.loristjohn.com/Document-4.html
Lori Urs wrote an appendix to the U.S Supreme Court citing the factual errors in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, in this brief summary she includes some of her legal research and investigation . http://www.loristjohn.com/Document-1.1.html
Book Reviews and other secondary sources
http://www.whomyouknow.com/2013/07/read-this-corruption-of-innocence.html#.VcJnls5cvyc
https://readersfavorite.com/book-review/the-corruption-of-innocence
http://www.lideamagazine.com/usa-book-expo-america-books-books-books-and-again-books-part-2/
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/books-corruption-innocence-joseph-odell-story
See testimonials
http://www.loristjohn.com/index-bookreviews.html
Photographs of Lori Urs with Italy Parliament Members, and other High Dignitaries
Photographs with Lori Urs and Italian Parliament Members (and European Parliament member Leoluca Orlando (member of both parliaments).
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see also her book.Galaxygirl0505 (talk) 20:51, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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Just FYI, you have broken WP:1RR on Susya. This edit was a revert of mine, this is a partial revert of this. You obviously know that both of these edits are disputed. Why the rush to add this? Discuss on the talk page and get consensus first. Kingsindian ♝♚ 12:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- No, I did not. I made several reverts of several different sections on the page. Mpt multiple reverts of any single item. Also, some of what I did was not reversion, but linking , tightening, and improving the prose of non-native English speakers for accuracy, non redundancy and intelligibility. I did not violate "1 revert).E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean by "aggressive". I thought I was as non-aggressive as I could be. I will not report you, but you did indeed break WP:1RR. Ask any admin if you like. Be careful in the future, as other people are not as "aggressive" as me. Kingsindian ♝♚ 12:45, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- EMG, it doesn't matter if the reverts were in different sections. The rule counts reverts on the page, not reverts to particular parts of the page. Zerotalk 12:56, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, Zero.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:24, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- No, I did not. I made several reverts of several different sections on the page. Mpt multiple reverts of any single item. Also, some of what I did was not reversion, but linking , tightening, and improving the prose of non-native English speakers for accuracy, non redundancy and intelligibility. I did not violate "1 revert).E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Whitaker Page
I understand that you have continually undone by edits on Dr. Whitakers page, but my question is to ask why. I have done nothing but expand upon his other accomplishments in life, as well as created new sections about him. You continually have undone my changes, choosing to focus only on his controversies and none of his other successes in life. I have very respectfully wrote the sections, as well as addresses his controversies as well. I am trying to present all facts, not just focus on the bad. Thank you very much.
I had to create the new sections, as well as correct false information that was presented incorrectly. By clicking undo, you are choosing to focus on only the 'controversies" instead of reading the other information presented. You can not present the wrong information and call it "fact"
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chasehunt1 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- Go read your talk page, and go familiarize yourself with Wikipedia. What you have don is to come to this encyclopedia, repeatedly blanked a page and replaced it with poorly sourced flackery. I can see that you edit from Arizona. Are you Matthew C. Whitaker, or a friend of his? If so, you do him no favors with your behavior here.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:04, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
What I have done is expanded upon each area of his work and not dedicated 3 sections to "controversies". The controversies are still addressed under his career section, as well as sourced. I apologize if you are looking to only paint negative images, but I am looking to explain fully about different individuals. I am not Dr. Whitaker, and I do not appreciate you thinking that I am. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chasehunt1 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Note that this editor is WP:HOUNDING me on multiple pages.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MSJapan: It is not cool to leave this comment on the Susya talk page. You have never edited this page before, why make this comment there? This raises suspicions of WP:HOUNDING. Please don't do that, whatever your history might be with EMG. Kingsindian ♝♚ 13:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Kingsindian: I added links so you would see why I made the comment. It is inappropriate for an editor to claim on one article that the bio sourced from the topic's workplace is basically hagiography and therefore remove it repeatedly, yet, on another article, when it suits his purpose, he has no issue with "self-description" and wants to keep exactly the same type of material in the article. That's the comment I left, and that's why I left it. MSJapan (talk) 16:26, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- The material in question was an instance of an SPA blanking a page about an academic and replacing it with text lifted from that professor's university homepage. In all universities with which I am familiar, professors compose and maintain their own homepages. This one is a model of immodesty. and it produced not only a hagiographic WP page, but one on which the facts were unsourced. I have again requested, on MSJapan's talk page, that MSJapan cease WP:HOUNDING me.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- So you made your own judgments about an official source based on what you personally thought, and decided not to include it because you thought it made the subject look too good? If you knew the added material was from the University, you had no right to delete it as unsourced, because it wasn't. You were dealing with an SPA with no editing experience whatsoever. You, on the other hand, had the obligation to add the source if you knew what it was or could find it, and yet you chose to delete the information. MSJapan (talk) 20:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- MSJapan was wrong on every allegation. But seems to have realized that, or, at least, to have ceased Wikihounding and slandering me.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:38, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- So you made your own judgments about an official source based on what you personally thought, and decided not to include it because you thought it made the subject look too good? If you knew the added material was from the University, you had no right to delete it as unsourced, because it wasn't. You were dealing with an SPA with no editing experience whatsoever. You, on the other hand, had the obligation to add the source if you knew what it was or could find it, and yet you chose to delete the information. MSJapan (talk) 20:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- The material in question was an instance of an SPA blanking a page about an academic and replacing it with text lifted from that professor's university homepage. In all universities with which I am familiar, professors compose and maintain their own homepages. This one is a model of immodesty. and it produced not only a hagiographic WP page, but one on which the facts were unsourced. I have again requested, on MSJapan's talk page, that MSJapan cease WP:HOUNDING me.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Kingsindian: I added links so you would see why I made the comment. It is inappropriate for an editor to claim on one article that the bio sourced from the topic's workplace is basically hagiography and therefore remove it repeatedly, yet, on another article, when it suits his purpose, he has no issue with "self-description" and wants to keep exactly the same type of material in the article. That's the comment I left, and that's why I left it. MSJapan (talk) 16:26, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MSJapan: It is not cool to leave this comment on the Susya talk page. You have never edited this page before, why make this comment there? This raises suspicions of WP:HOUNDING. Please don't do that, whatever your history might be with EMG. Kingsindian ♝♚ 13:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
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Nomination of Matthew C. Whitaker for deletion
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- Yet another instance of WP:HOUNDING by User:MSJAPAN.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:20, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
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You know...
If you simply engaged in discussion on your edits, you would avoid a lot of trouble. However, your engagement consists of "I added links! I'm right!" Two of those sources you re-added by reverting my edit were already tagged by others as not supporting the statement. The third was behind a paywall and can't be verified. Another was from six months before the incident, so can't possibly be related. The last of the five also made no connection between the incident and the party. The problem is that you are making the connections, and then you refuse to discuss them when others disagree. That is WP:OR, and I'm sorry if you think I'm wikihounding you. The fact is that you are a poor and noncollegial editor, and your editing is damaging to the encyclopedia.
You have clearly indicated that any source you don't agree with is automatically not usable, even if the same type of source is usable elsewhere when you do agree with it. You have also clearly indicated that you don't wish to discuss your edits. You have also clearly indicated that you don't want to show any part of a story that doesn't fit your view. The Whitaker article now looks nothing like the version you were fighting over, because you only used those parts of the sources that supported your position, even when your position was contrary to facts stated in the source.
I get the sense, by the way, that your familiaerity with academia means you are an academic or retired academic. Wikipedia is not academia. It is not a research platform, nor is it a place to tell other people your personal conclusions based on what you think happened. That is basically the crux of what you are doing, by the way. You tried to create the Whitaker article based solely on scandals with no regard for WP:BLP or balance, despite three editors raising concerns on the talk page. You created an event article on a stabbing at Ikea to talk about political impact when there is none, and apparently based that on Breitbart, which we simply don't use as a source here, period. So then, you found everything that mentioned SDP, even if it was six months ago, and then said the rise of the SDP was related to this incident, and another, and another, which basically showed that there was no correlation with this latest item at all, as no source mentioned it. I'd also point out that you can't even be bothered to get a last name right. However, according to you, these are all other people's issues, and they should be fine with fixing your mess. I bring this up because that's also unacceptable in academia, isn't it? So why should you be comporting yourself differently here and to different standards than you would professionally in the real world? MSJapan (talk) 17:04, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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Please help me with a redirect. I started the page Nebraska Book Award with the intention of redirecting to Nebraska Center for the Book How do I enable Nebraska Book Award continue to appear as a bluelink on the pages of several authors, and be findable in future (because news media use the phrase) while redirecting to Nebraska Center for the Book. I could easily write and source a page for Nebraska Book Award, but that seems silly. Help.
E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- User, User:Charlie the Pig can you fix this?E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done [2]. Redirects are created by using the following code on the page in question:
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- Sorry, I couldn't respond in time, but it looks like you got it covered. Special thanks to @User:NickW557 :) Charlie the Pig (talk) 01:24, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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Nebraska authors
Thanks for your comments and encouragement. You mentioned that you think Greg Kosmicki deserves his own entry. I also think there should be one for other Nebraska authors for which there isn't one yet, including Greg Kuzma in particular, but also Marge Saiser, Paul Dickey (poet), and Brent Spencer (writer). So I have been looking into these. Kuzma is a bear though it seems because what has made him notable goes back to his prominence in the 70's and is hard to find online. So far I have some tentative entries for Kosmicki and Dickey. Check them out if you want in my sandbox at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edward_Dixon/sandbox/Greg_Kosmicki &
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edward_Dixon/sandbox/Paul_Dickey
In particular, let me know if you find anything that might strike an editor as not neutral. No COI here, but I do admit personally to admiring the work of all these writers.
Edward Dixon (talk) 15:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'll take a look when I get a chance. An equal rights campaigns that I would love to see get more attention is the right to open access]] to virtually all older, published sources. the disadvantaging of the gerneral public in terms of knowledge availability is an enormous - and correctable - injustice. Just fyi, Many archives make access available to designated Wikipedia editors.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:37, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
E.M. Gregory, As you expected it would, the Dickey article was rejected because of the poor job I did at sourcing. I have tried to fix it based on your suggestions. Is it ready to resubmit now, do you think? The Kosmicki article was rejected due to notability concerns. Please advise if you think Kosmicki is still worth pursuing at this time. Thanks for your great help. Edward Dixon (talk) 17:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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As I saw, you have started a few articles about people who were killed in those terror attacks. I noticed an RfD that said only incidents with articles should be mentioned. Truth is, I'm not sure how useful those articles are. How would you feel about starting an article called List of deaths by Palestinian stone-throwing and put Template:Main in the original article?
BTW, I just found out the first one to be killed in such attack is Ester Ohana in 1983. Settleman (talk) 16:03, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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Can you not delete other peoples comments, including their votes? That would be awesome. K thnx bye. nableezy - 17:26, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Just for the record, I have no idea what Nableezy is talking about.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:30, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- You deleted a couple of comments, I'm guessing because of edit conflict. Kingsindian ♝♚ 18:15, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Most likely this diff samtar (msg) 18:20, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- So when I posted a new comment it erased a comment being posted at the same time? that doesn't seem like a very good thing to be able to just happen. I was certainly unaware that it could or did happen. Learn something new every day.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not likely, an edit conflict normally stops one of the two editors from saving their version. Not sure how this happened. samtar (msg) 18:41, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it didn't. And what possible motive would I have for deleting a comment by an aggressive editor like Nableezy in an AFD in one of the most aggressively patrolled topics on Wikipedia?E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:44, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) You must have got a message about edit conflict, like the one I just got. I am not sure how you resolve edit conflicts normally. My guess is that you copy-pasted your version of the article in the box and pressed save. You also removed my comment by the way, I restored it since I guessed what happened. Kingsindian ♝♚ 18:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Apologies if that seemed accusatory - it was not meant as such. I did leave a message on Nableezy's talk page to try to confirm which removal he was referring to and de-escalate the situation. samtar (msg) 18:49, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- I certainly did not copy and paste. This was only a couple of hours ago and I would remember having done that. What I might have done is double click - a rather bad habit of mine, I sometimes make programs jam by impatiently double-clicking when, you know, I'm late and I want to save a page before rushing off. I don't remember double clicking on this, but it's plausible. Copying and pasting did not occur, let alone deliberately deleting Nableezy's comments.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not likely, an edit conflict normally stops one of the two editors from saving their version. Not sure how this happened. samtar (msg) 18:41, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- So when I posted a new comment it erased a comment being posted at the same time? that doesn't seem like a very good thing to be able to just happen. I was certainly unaware that it could or did happen. Learn something new every day.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Most likely this diff samtar (msg) 18:20, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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For doing some important changes in List of terrorist incidents, 2015. I appriciate this kind of edits and will love to have more help from you to deal with this messy but improving article. I would also like to ask you to participate in the talk page since there are only three persons including me who are active in this talk page, two of them (includimg me) share the same opinion on most subjects, which can hurt the quaility of the article. Anyways, continue the good work :D Bolter21 18:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC) |
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Didn't mean to revert without a summary (the auto-revert loaded just as I clicked the regular undo button), but are you kidding me? You're going to follow my edits because you're annoyed that I nominated your list for deletion, and that's the article you're going to PROD? A benchmark work by a major playwright? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:15, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- If it is a "benchmark" work; source it.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:17, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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are you plannig on making an article for the attack yesterday in the West Bank?
since it seems you usually starts those articles, I don't want to start an article if there's already someone who made/makes it. --Bolter21 13:31, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Someone should. If you have time to start it, I'll help you build it.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am also considering a rewrite of the article on the the recent death by rock throwing, after closing editor denied my request to let the AFD run longer.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- I think we both can agree that such attack is no different then the Duma attack, just because it is 'less devastating' doesn't mean some anti Israeli hypocrisy can denay it's importance. If they will call for deleting the new article for this current attack it will be a record in hypocrisy. Anyway if you are not creating it so I will make it later today. Bolter21 20:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC+2)
- In what way is it "less" devastating? An attack that makes every driver feel vulnerable to death-by-sniper is pretty devastating. Besides, the AFDs are simply a tactic employed a small group of intensely POV editors to get their way.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:09, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- I think we both can agree that such attack is no different then the Duma attack, just because it is 'less devastating' doesn't mean some anti Israeli hypocrisy can denay it's importance. If they will call for deleting the new article for this current attack it will be a record in hypocrisy. Anyway if you are not creating it so I will make it later today. Bolter21 20:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC+2)
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I notice you have created Lions' Gate stabbing. Do you not think that simply concentrating on the deaths on one side creates an WP:NPOV problem? According to the UN, there have been 25 Palestinians killed in 2015. The past few days have hardly been violence free on the Palestinian side, with over 500 people injured (source) with a disputed killing at a checkpoint here. One of the people accused in the stabbing (there are two separate incidents) was himself killed in disputed circumstances, with some people alleging that the police shot him on the urging of a mob. I am not saying that the latter is necessarily true, but these are hardly incidents lacking in coverage and WP:RS. Is the way to depict this on Wikipedia to create memorial articles for each killing on one side, with little or no discussion about the other side, and no wider context like the Al-Aqsa clashes? Kingsindian ♝♚ 22:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, I think terrorism is notable, and that acts of terrorist violence are notable. And that WP:WIKIHOUNDING is contemptible. so stop it.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:26, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Given the requirement to avoid value-laden labels, probably not one of the easiest subjects to contribute about on Wikipedia, though. ← ZScarpia 23:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, one simply uses the descriptors used by the police, prosecutor and judge. The real difficulty is with aggressive editors like Kingsindian who attempt to whitewash murder. Thank you for bringing that source.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- In such cases it would probably be preferable to attribute the descriptions to whoever had used them. The word murder has a technical, legal meaning and the circumstances should determine whether its use is appropriate, though it's possible that the legitimacy of the jurisdiction under which the murder is supposed to have taken place is under question, which can create neutrality issues. ← ZScarpia 20:12, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was pretty much copying/borrowing the style/language of similar articles, but I'll look into it further.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- @ZScarpia: Do you happen to know of any really good and well-worded articles on terrorist attacks? That I could use as a model?E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:23, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- No. Very good articles would usually be the work of a small number of dispassionate editors. Articles on terrorism-related topics usually aren't produced under those conditions. ← ZScarpia 20:41, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- @ZScarpia: Do you happen to know of any really good and well-worded articles on terrorist attacks? That I could use as a model?E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:23, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was pretty much copying/borrowing the style/language of similar articles, but I'll look into it further.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- In such cases it would probably be preferable to attribute the descriptions to whoever had used them. The word murder has a technical, legal meaning and the circumstances should determine whether its use is appropriate, though it's possible that the legitimacy of the jurisdiction under which the murder is supposed to have taken place is under question, which can create neutrality issues. ← ZScarpia 20:12, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, one simply uses the descriptors used by the police, prosecutor and judge. The real difficulty is with aggressive editors like Kingsindian who attempt to whitewash murder. Thank you for bringing that source.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Given the requirement to avoid value-laden labels, probably not one of the easiest subjects to contribute about on Wikipedia, though. ← ZScarpia 23:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Regarding this talkpage comment, WP:TERRORIST implies that you are incorrect. ← ZScarpia 15:31, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- In fact, that IP changed the wording to imply that the civilians were killed when the Army went in to end the hijacking. He called it improved wording in his edit summary. I called him out for that.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:01, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Claim of disruptive editing.
Ref this nonsense. Disruptive editing[edit] Your recent editing at List of terrorist incidents, 2015 has been highly disruptive, to the point where it can be viewed as a hind of harrassment of other editors and deliberate dispruption of the Wikipedia process. You have been editing long enough to know better than to behave in this way. Cut it out.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:58, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
This claim is not backed by any evidence at all. See the talk page in question where EM G uses OR to try and back up this nonsense claim. Every revert I have made has been correct. EM G - all claims have to be backed by an RS, not OR. Instead of dis respecting others efforts you should provide RS where they are required, not unsubstantiated claims. Please provide one instance where I my revert has not been in line with wikipedia policy, or withdraw the claim?Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 20:01, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hi E.M.Gregory, I noticed you questioned Johnmcintyre on their previous Wikipedia experience. You also posted your suspicions about them abusing multiple accounts. To be honest, I too see the similarities between their editing style and that of IncredibleHulk. You may wish to visit sockpuppet investigations and consider reporting them. samtar (msg) 19:08, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'll think about it. It was something about the similarity of edits made by User:InedibleHulk and Creating User:Johnmcintyre1959 at List of terrorist incidents, 2015, and the similarity of approach between User:Johnmcintyre1959's approach at Lions' Gate stabbings and User:InedibleHulk 's approach at 2015 Parramatta shooting that made me think it. But why would a longstanding editor like InedibleHulk do that? Mostly, my suspicions are aroused not by anything specific, but by the fact that Johnmcintyre is so new here and it just seems incredible that he should edit with such speed and facility, not to mention knowing just how to word things so he can pass off a POV disruption for a technical flaw in the sourcing. Also, such a complain sounds like it is very difficult to make, but I am not an attorney.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:58, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
EMG A 'technical flaw in the editing' is grounds for reverting material. It is called reverting material that does not have an RS. If you want to remove material on the grounds of POV, then make that clear in your revert, rather than make claims of disruption without evidence or examples to back it up. Stick to the same rules as everyone else and we will get on fine.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 09:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Lions' Gate stabbings
EMG you keep edit warring on this In response to the 3 October Lions' Gate stabbing, and to other recent attacks, in particular, to a stabbing attack in the early hours of 4 October in which a Palestinian teenager attacked a 15-year-old Israeli with a knife,[23] wounding him before he, the assailant, was shot and killed by police. The attacker was identified by relatives as Fadi Alloun, 19. Before attacking, he posted on his Facebook page: "Either martyrdom or victory."[24] Please listen to me. This paragraph does not make any sense. If you are adding it as background to the following paragraph, then instead of a reflex revert every time you see my name, try this version.
In response to the 3 October Lions' Gate stabbing, and to other recent attacks, the Israeli government temporarily barred Palestinians from entering the walled Old City of Jerusalem.[25] The ban will be effective for two days, during the Jewish holy days of Sukkot when many Jews make pilgrimages to the city's holy places. Palestinians who live, study or work in the Old City are exempted from the ban.[24][26]
These attacks include a stabbing in the early hours of 4 October in which a Palestinian teenager, who was identified by relatives as Fadi Alloun, attacked a 15-year-old Israeli with a knife,[23] wounding him before he, the assailant, was shot and killed by police. Before attacking, he had posted on his Facebook page: "Either martyrdom or victory."[24]
Stop your nonsense claims about disruptive editing, and please accept that the present version just does not make any sense.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 09:53, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- Johnmcintyre1959 is an obvious sockpuppet.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory, if so I would strongly recommend reporting at WP:SPI. I personally can see similarities but I'm not confident enough to say for sure. samtar (msg) 17:31, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- See [3] and add your evidence there. Bad Dryer (talk) 20:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am still correct that the present wording makes no sense. No one seems able to deny that my suggestion is better english.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 20:49, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- EMG NOWHERE in this source is the word hero used. I may be banned, but for heavens sake, your use of the word hero in this sentence is pure OR. 'Talahma has been made into a hero by Palestinian Arabs who wear t-shirts imprinted with his image.[23' All the source says it that at one event some Palestinians wore t-shirts with his face on. Your editing is disruptive when you revert material that has been removed because it is not in the source. You really have been getting away with some dreadful editing. Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 21:01, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
See here. Kingsindian ♝♚ 16:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sigh. This is getting old. KingsIndian purpose seems to be to drive editors whose perspective KingsIndian does not like away from editing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'm quite uninvolved with your relationship with Kingsindian and Co - and me and you have had minor disagreements in the past, but this AE is pure rubbish. As I said in my statement, you can be a little abrasive when dealing with editors (but then so can I) but other than that I don't see anything else wrong. samtar (msg) 21:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed. Speaking of which, you might want to remind Nishidani that he created the article Zion Square assault (originally with the title of "Zion Square lynch"), and maybe find out if he balanced it out with some assault by Arabs on Jews (maybe this guy)? Or how he thinks it fits his standards for article creation (such as EVENT and NOTNEWS) considering nobody heard anything about this incident since the attackers were sentenced 2+ years ago. Not to mention the fact that in that incident nobody was actually killed. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 19:00, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- LOL. There truly is something comic about intensely POV-pushing editors like Nishdani and KingsIndian coming to my page to accuse me of imaginary rules violations. Or it would be comic, if I did not suspect that it works for them, that is, I suspect that the targeted and baseless WIKIHOUNDING by Islamist-supporting, violence defending editors like KingsIndian and Nishdani often does drive good editors away from Wikipedia.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, it's undeniable that they use every tool at their disposal to drive editors they don't agree with away from Wikipedia. Take almost any article in the IP area, look at who was editing it 2, 3, 4 years ago and look who's editing it now. Mostly the same pro-P editors, almost none of the same pro-I. These guys are very good at harassing people and using the admin boards to get rid of their opponents. The hypocrisy of someone like Nishidani, complaining on AE about you creating the exact same kind of articles he creates is funny, though. On the other hand, don't be surprised if they topic ban you for it while doing nothing to him. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 19:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- LOL. There truly is something comic about intensely POV-pushing editors like Nishdani and KingsIndian coming to my page to accuse me of imaginary rules violations. Or it would be comic, if I did not suspect that it works for them, that is, I suspect that the targeted and baseless WIKIHOUNDING by Islamist-supporting, violence defending editors like KingsIndian and Nishdani often does drive good editors away from Wikipedia.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sigh. This is getting old. KingsIndian purpose seems to be to drive editors whose perspective KingsIndian does not like away from editing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
This is probably useless, but literally my first sentence in the AE report is that EMG is probably acting in good faith and I don't want harsh sanctions. The allegations that I wish to drive away people is too absurd: I rarely, if ever, initiate AE cases, and mostly argue against sanctions in cases that others initiate. The only two previous times I initiated AE cases were against sockpuppets, though even then I withdrew the case soon afterwards. Kingsindian ♝♚ 20:39, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Right. You rarely initiate but you often participate. What results do you usually expect when you say "here's some bad things this editor did, but please no sanction!" on one of the admin boards? Have you spoken to your friend Nishidani about his creating the same kind of article you're complaining about? You often complain about sockpuppets. Have you ever reported or even spoken about a pro-Palestinian sock? No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 21:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- In fairness, he did just report a fairly obvious Dalai Lama Ding Dong sock puppet - here [4]. But your comment regarding Nishidani is of course spot on. Bad Dryer (talk) 21:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Interesting. I checked his contributions to SPI today just before we interacted on the NoCal page, and that wasn't there. What a coincidence. Naturally he says there this is the only pro-P sock (as if PR and Passionless never existed, just to name a couple of the top of my head who I'm pretty sure still editing). No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Absolutely absurd complaint: socking is a partisan issue now? And what does socking have to do with WP:AE? Is there an WP:NPOV policy for socking as well? The vast majority of abusive sockpuppetry goes on on the "pro-Israel" side. It is not my fault that this situation exists - an absolutely fair person, which I'm not, will still file SPI's against AndresHerutJaim, NoCal, Wlglunight93, 95% of the time. I have no idea about the ones you mention; if you are so sure of them existing, why aren't you reporting them? Investigating and catching socks take time: I would like to see you doing some work instead of whining about people who do it. Kingsindian ♝♚ 00:48, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am not reporting them because unless they're being dicks I don't really care. This obsession with NoCal even if he's otherwise editing by the rules is very weird to me. Not to mention you guys don't care how many innocent casualties suffer in the process. As long as some political opponent is gone, who cares, eh? SPI is the black hole of circumstantial evidence where BATTLEGROUND is allowed, there's no repercussions for making false reports, and no recourse for the innocent. I don't want to play that game.
- User:NoCal. Is this spelled right? Can't find his page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- The sock report you put in today is the very first time I see anyone from your group of sock obsessed editors ever report a pro-P sock. EVER. In 7 years. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 01:01, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- You see, it was perfectly safe to take accuse JohnMcIntyre of being a sock because he has already been outed on his talk page and has stopped editing. So KingsIndian got to look like he was being neutral and outing an anti-Israel sock, when the sock had already been outed and, therefore, become useless.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- @No More Mr Nice Guy: So, let me get this straight, it is ok to sock if you are "playing by the rules"? Please tell me what Wikipedia policy sanctions this. Not to mention that this is an absurd criterion: the rules allow a fair bit of leeway - any open system like Wikipedia operates partly on the basis of trust. There is even a policy for this, in case you forgot: WP:AGF. With the speed that NoCal100 creates socks, he could make tendentious but technically "within the rules" edits 95% of the time, with 5% of the time doing absolutely vicious things like goading others to self-destruct (he partially succeeded in getting under my skin: see All Rows4), and do this over and over again. Psychopaths like him exist: I am not forced to suffer them in silence, afraid that some innocent person might be blocked unfairly. If you can come up with a better system to catch serial sockpuppeteers without any downsides, please propose that. I report "pro-Israel" socks mostly because (a) They are vastly more numerous (b) I come across them more during my editing. As to EMG's comments about "outing", I have no idea what they are talking about. Kingsindian ♝♚ 01:23, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- You see, it was perfectly safe to take accuse JohnMcIntyre of being a sock because he has already been outed on his talk page and has stopped editing. So KingsIndian got to look like he was being neutral and outing an anti-Israel sock, when the sock had already been outed and, therefore, become useless.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am not reporting them because unless they're being dicks I don't really care. This obsession with NoCal even if he's otherwise editing by the rules is very weird to me. Not to mention you guys don't care how many innocent casualties suffer in the process. As long as some political opponent is gone, who cares, eh? SPI is the black hole of circumstantial evidence where BATTLEGROUND is allowed, there's no repercussions for making false reports, and no recourse for the innocent. I don't want to play that game.
- Absolutely absurd complaint: socking is a partisan issue now? And what does socking have to do with WP:AE? Is there an WP:NPOV policy for socking as well? The vast majority of abusive sockpuppetry goes on on the "pro-Israel" side. It is not my fault that this situation exists - an absolutely fair person, which I'm not, will still file SPI's against AndresHerutJaim, NoCal, Wlglunight93, 95% of the time. I have no idea about the ones you mention; if you are so sure of them existing, why aren't you reporting them? Investigating and catching socks take time: I would like to see you doing some work instead of whining about people who do it. Kingsindian ♝♚ 00:48, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Interesting. I checked his contributions to SPI today just before we interacted on the NoCal page, and that wasn't there. What a coincidence. Naturally he says there this is the only pro-P sock (as if PR and Passionless never existed, just to name a couple of the top of my head who I'm pretty sure still editing). No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- In fairness, he did just report a fairly obvious Dalai Lama Ding Dong sock puppet - here [4]. But your comment regarding Nishidani is of course spot on. Bad Dryer (talk) 21:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
No, No, you misunderstood. I personally don't care. As a result of seeing how the fuzzy rules are fuzzly applied based on what mood a random admin wakes up in the morning with, I don't think socking is that bad anymore. Certainly socking in and of itself is not the worse thing going on in this place. If they're not being assholes, I don't care.
If you think it's OK to block innocent people in the perusal of your political opponents, that's your business. It's pretty convenient that none of the innocent casualties share your POV, isn't it? People here regularly goad others to self-destruct (your friend Nishidani is practically a wizard at this) without being socks, so I really don't see where you're going with that.
You report mostly pro-I socks because you care about pro-I socks much more than you care about pro-P socks. How did you come to the conclusion JohnMcIntyre is a sock? He hasn't edited in 3 days. Where did you encounter him? I'm curious. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 01:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- The difference between socks who goad people and long-time editors who you think goad people is that there is little recourse against socks except SPI. If you think Nishidani edits inappropriately, WP:AE exists - why don't you report them? It would be hugely time consuming to haul up every sock of NoCal to WP:AE - and it's not like I haven't tried. If I bothered to report every travesty that goes on in this area, I would have no time to eat or shit, let alone add any content. As it is, I already ignore a lot of socking activity that I think is rather benign or not too harmful. Yours is a very convenient stance to take about socking - you are not the person being goaded and trolled. As to your continued insinuation that I report socks based on political agendas, I am sorry, not everyone looks at the world through the lens of nationalism. I have defended plenty of people on the "other side" at WP:AE (see here and here for example). Kingsindian ♝♚ 02:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- I know, I know, it's all a big coincidence. And of course I'm not being goaded or trolled. Everyone here treats me with the utmost respect and civility. You've actually participated in some of these lovely respectful and civil discussion and didn't seem too bothered about the trolling or goading when it wasn't directed at you.
- How did you come to the conclusion JohnMcIntyre is a sock? He hasn't edited in 3 days. Where did you encounter him? I'm still curious. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 02:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Pray, tell me, which sock has goaded or trolled you? Regarding long-term editors, you already have recourse to WP:AE, the fact that you don't use it is just an indication that you don't think you will succeed. As to JohnMcintyre, I have had my suspicions for a while, ever since his first edit was an AfD I participated in (linked on the SPI page). I gave my suspicions on the AfD page itself. You will, I hope, excuse me if I don't spill more WP:BEANS. Kingsindian ♝♚ 02:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- You are mistaken, but never mind. I think this conversation has gone as far as it can go. Congrats again on being the first pro-P "sock hunter" to ever report a pro-P sock. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 13:48, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Pray, tell me, which sock has goaded or trolled you? Regarding long-term editors, you already have recourse to WP:AE, the fact that you don't use it is just an indication that you don't think you will succeed. As to JohnMcintyre, I have had my suspicions for a while, ever since his first edit was an AfD I participated in (linked on the SPI page). I gave my suspicions on the AfD page itself. You will, I hope, excuse me if I don't spill more WP:BEANS. Kingsindian ♝♚ 02:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am now also intensely curious, KingsIndian How, when did you begin to suspect that JohnMcIntyre1959 is a sockpuppet?E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
asterisk
Could you please not use an asterisk ('*') in front of your talk page comments unless you're making a list of bulletpoints or everyone else is using one, like in an AfD? I really screws up the indentation. Thanks. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 18:24, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
oh, sure. sorry. it really does take a while to figure out the grammar.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:33, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- No worries at all. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 18:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Reliable Sources Noticeboard
Ref this incorrect claim. At this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lions%27_Gate_stabbings#Visit_by_Prime_Minister_to_victim_in_hospital you made this incorrect claim. You took Ma'an news agency to the reliable source noticeboard. The discussion there is ongoing, but inconclusive. You might want to refrain from citing disputed facts to Ma'an as you just did at Lions' Gate stabbing and find a more reliable source.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:42, 16 October 2015 (UTC) If you check RSN you will see that I did NOT take Maan news there, I asked about two other sources, and another editor suggested that Maan news was an acceptable source. This whole claim is just more of your OR. Please stop your disruptive editing and spend more time actually reading rather than reverting. Your record in poor in this area, and it needs to improve. I will of course restore the material you removed as you removed it under a false claim.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 15:36, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Just to stay with the facts, I didn't "take" Ma'an to the reliable source noticeboard. I think User:Kingsindian did.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:56, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Because Ma'an News Agency is not a reliable source on fact. And your campaign of disruption and WIKIHOUNDING is not working.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:26, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- This claim is still incorrect. Anyone who takes the time can see that I did NOT ask if Maan news was an RS. You are simply making that up. I asked about two other sources, and neither was Maan news. Your claim of disruptive editing on my part is simply a way of covering up that I have picked up your inaccuracies and OR use of sources.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 20:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- you are right. That discussion has gone on for so long , and long ago shifted to Ma'an - I had quite forgotten where it started. If you want to argue that either www.albawaba.com, or www.middleeasteye.net is a reliable source, you would have to bring evidence for it. And take this discussion back there, your move in cluttering up my talk page this way does have the feel of more of your attempts to discredit me. We all know your POV, but this kind of hounding of an editor you disagree with on politics is not good form.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:52, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- This claim is still incorrect. Anyone who takes the time can see that I did NOT ask if Maan news was an RS. You are simply making that up. I asked about two other sources, and neither was Maan news. Your claim of disruptive editing on my part is simply a way of covering up that I have picked up your inaccuracies and OR use of sources.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 20:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Maan has concensus on that page as an RS. Stop cluttering up my page with baseless claims of disruptive editing based on my insistence on using the sources correctly. I am not pro Pal, I am pro RS. My editing here shows that I only use sources in a reliable correct manner.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 06:27, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Wonderful. An IP who has been removing sourced material and sources he does not like, now accuses me of edit warring. Reverting vandalism by IP addresses is not edit warring.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:23, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
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- You need to get off your high horse and stop accusing other editors of vandalism. Please read WP:Vandalism and familiarize yourself with what is not vandalism. Also, stop your POV pushing, and if you edit the article again I will report you for your 3RR violations. 66.87.114.76 (talk) 14:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Wow the IPs, probably sockpuppets, and POV editors who want to whitewash the page of this controversial journalist are pretty aggressive. WP:CTDAPE type WP:WIKIHOUNDING.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
A source
I believe you would find | the Jewish voice auto updated pages as a useful source for your edits. Their rss page have plenty of events which are lost in other news outlets5.144.58.49 (talk) 13:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Geneva Revolution of 1782
Just a heads up, you gave the same name to two different refs on Geneva Revolution of 1782 and they're now fighting. I can't tell which one is intended to source which sentence in cases where they clash. If you're still able to, sorting it out would be great. Thanks! Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 16:19, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- I think the problem stems form the fact that I was trying to cite statements to different pages in the same book. Can anyonw show me how to do that properly?E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:25, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
- Of course! If you rename the one that's citing page 17 to say:
- <ref name=Polasky17>specific citation info here</ref>
- then change the names of the other references which refer to that page to
- <ref name=Polasky17 />
- they'll be grouped separately to those on page 18. (Doing something similar with the page 18 refs, changing them to <ref name=Polasky18> to follow the same sort of naming scheme, would be probably be wise to avoid confusion, although it will still work if you only rename one of them.) Does that help? Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 14:02, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
- Of course! If you rename the one that's citing page 17 to say:
Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. 107.10.236.42 (talk) 12:02, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
- IP apparently engaged in WP:CTDAPE. I invite anyone taking him seriously to read my edits at Talk:Islamo-Leftism.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:50, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
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- You have now reverted four times in 26 hours. WP:GAME much? 107.10.236.42 (talk) 01:55, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- 3RR does not apply to IP addresses, a rule quite probably created to deal with disruptive, probably sockpuppets who, like you who engage in WP:CTDAPE, and Wikipedia:Tag bombing and who are disruptive and given to calling other editors "fucking moron", as anyone can see by looking at the material you deletes from your talk page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:28, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- Did one of your little buddies tell you that about 3RR? It's not true. You might want to read WP:3RR for yourself before you get blocked for violating it. 107.10.236.42 (talk) 02:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Nomination of Beersheva bus station shooting for deletion
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FWIW, the real 'problem' with that article is not any doubt that the term itself exists, it really that the "Members" section is merely an unsourced list of whomever a varied collection of editors over the years (mostly IPs) have decided to add. The term is defined as "the segment of evangelical thinkers.... who have a significant impact on culture." What people that apples to is a purely subjective judgement, and there has been no apparent attempt to justify it in regards to any of the people listed... they appear to have merely accumulated over time, and looking at a random example (Michael Gerson), he is described as 'a leading figure in the evangelical intelligentsia' movement, with nothing to support that opinion (that he is a 'leading figure') anywhere in his bio. It is also serving as a collection of inappropriate links to the personal websites of individual members of the list, which appear to have no connection to the actual 'subject' of the article, and seem to further indicate that it has become just a means of connecting those names to the term 'intellegentsia'. 16:44, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- The article needs cleanup, improvement. Certainly it may have been started and/or enhanced to promote particular persons. I removed the prod because it seemed an inappropriate remedy. I'll put it on my list of articles that need attention. But feel free to improve it.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- As long as it's getting attention, I'm happy. I prodded it because I don't really see how it can be much more than the definition of a neologism once cleaned up, but I not personally familiar with the 'kind of sources' that would make it better.... I mostly work on Commons, not over here, and mostly did gnoming when I was active here. Reventtalk 16:53, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- The article needs cleanup, improvement. Certainly it may have been started and/or enhanced to promote particular persons. I removed the prod because it seemed an inappropriate remedy. I'll put it on my list of articles that need attention. But feel free to improve it.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Bad editing
EMG You have made a bad edit here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yamam&diff=688580082&oldid=688174135 You have reverted to the word terrorists without any RS that uses that word. No one is interested in your personal opinion. We do not use the word terrorists in the voice of wikipedia. You need to restore a neutral word such as militants. If you find an RS that calls the perpetrators terrorists then you can only say that source x calls them terrorists. Please exercise more care in future.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 18:05, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- :::As you know, the problems on that page was that your were changing text to make it appear that hostages were killed by the military unit that went in to stop the hijacking and rescue hostages. Pray do not compound your POV editing by pointing to the mote in my eye while ignoring thy own action of claiming to improve wording while inserting text that airbrushes out the murder of innocent civilians killed in cold blood by dastardly/terroristic/black-hearted/ murderous political hijackers of civilian buses as you did on that page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:17, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
More disruptive editing
Ref this incorrect claim of yours. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lions%27_Gate_stabbings&diff=next&oldid=688910396 No consensus is required for removal. Consensus is required to add material. This material is not notable and not directly relevant. It can only be restored if you get concensus. This is your responsibility, not mine. Please stop your disruptive editing.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- More WP:CTDAPE and WP:WIKIHOUNDING from this disruptive editr, whose purpose in life seems to be WP:CTDAPE, not constructive editing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:20, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Advice
I think that was bad idea, especially after the recent advice you received at WP:AE (actually, you might be easily topic banned during this WP:AE discussions based on your comments). What are you going to gain by making such comments? Nothing. Simply never comment on other contributors anywhere, except cases when you need to respond to claims by others about you on administrative noticeboards. Do content work, this is your strength. My very best wishes (talk) 22:27, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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Lion's gate
Hi there. I'm taking a break from Wikipedia, but here are a couple of things I thought you could use:
- A Reuters video of the stabbing. Notice the people milling around as a woman screams for help and her husband gets stabbed. Lovely. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't use it because it's on youtube. This is an official Reuters channel.
- An NYT piece about the stabbing I didn't see in the article. Notice it describes where the knife was sticking out of her as she was running around begging for help from people who laugh when they see a woman dying.
I probably won't be reading this page in the near future, but I get email notification for changes on my talk page, so you can leave me messages there if you want. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 07:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Dude, can you quit it?
How can you even pretend that you're a neutral and productive contributor to Wikipedia when you're mass-creating stub articles primarily on routine newsy killings by Muslims? Get a hobby! –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:22, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
- In other words, you WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT. To anyone tempted to accept Rosecalese's allegation at face value, I point out that I create article on many things, including shootings like the University of California, Merced stabbing attack in which the identity of the shooter was not known when I created the page. I do, however, create articles on Islamist terrorism, not only because it is one of the great issues of our era, but because WP:WIKIHOUNDING by intensely POV editors like Rosecalese, who regularly works to delete article on terrorist attacks, has left Wikipedia depauperate: articles on significant terrorist attacks are disporportionately missing when the attack was committed by Islamists. I am attempting to withstand the WP:WIKIHOUNDING that editing on Islamism attracts.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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AfD
Let it run its course per AfD, what's with the pinging selective people [5]? There's good arguments on both sides, let it be pls. Widefox; talk 19:17, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Pinged the two in the last segment of the discussion.User:Widefox.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:23, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Normal AfD - it runs and there's good points on both sides. Widefox; talk 19:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Pinged the two in the last segment of the discussion.User:Widefox.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:23, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
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- I saw this on the list of new prods. Technically, since this has already been to AfD, it's not eligible for WP:PROD and would have to go back to AfD, but instead of going through the bureaucratic layers, can I suggest that you might consider making the museum page into a redirect for the time being, and instead use the content about the museum in the article about the collector, Grażyna Kulczyk, since it would provide needed information about her notable activities? (Meanwhile, I've taken care of linking Grażyna Kulczyk to the corresponding pages on Polish and 2 other Wikipedias via Wikidata. The Polish page has considerable detail and a pile of footnotes.) Best,--Arxiloxos (talk) 02:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Article now better sourced. I have been monitoring a number of proposed museums, updating the pages as the projects move forward. This led me to create a category to move them into when a project dies (see my work updating the United States National Slavery Museum and of The Boston Museum). I also update on museum projects that are struggling (Armenian Genocide Museum of America, National LGBT Museum, The National Irish American Museum of Washington, D.C.). And I keep articles on museums with truly substantial backing and prospects up to date (Museum of the Bible, Museum of the American Arts and Crafts Movement). Because of the scale of the announced financial commitment, the magnitude of the art collection involved, and the fact that the project is taken seriously by major news media, I think that this museum should have a page, and I will add it to the group of museums that I periodically check in on, so that I can move it to the defunct category and merge it into a section on Grażyna Kulczyk's page if it fails to go anywhere.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:10, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hezekiah - Archaeological record
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The Hebrew University of Jerusalem press release was published after a press conference. My suggestion is that reference 13 be to it rather than the Times of Israel article if you don't see anything in the latter not in the press release. Mcljlm (talk) 07:33, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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Thomas Bailey Marquis GA
Hey, you can't fail the article and at the same time delete the review. You need to leave the review comments in place for future editors, and you certainly can't delete my responses. SpinningSpark 14:18, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- User:Spinningspark - I apologize for messing up the page by mininterpreting "replace". WP instructions are not always as clear as they could be. But beyond that, I am very sorry that I could not approve the page for GA status because I did see that Thomas Bailey Marquis was a fascinating writer/scholar/individual, and I can plainly see that an enormous amount of work went into creating the page. I am glad that I could help out in a small way by creating a page for the school he attended.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:36, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Very true. The review should remain intact. (I'm reverting the deletion now.) I think you've misunderstood the WP:GANI instructions. Also, when you edit the article's talk page, you simply replace the "GA nominee" template with the "FailedGA" template, and leave everything else on the page intact. Note that the "page" parameter and "topic" parameter in FailedGA should be identical to the "page" and "subtopic" parameters in the GA nominee template, with no "GA" added for the former. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:29, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you , User:BlueMoonset.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- You're most welcome. I've just replaced the article talk page's GA nominee template with the FailedGA template, to finalize the nomination. This diff shows that particular edit, for future reference. (If you'd passed the nomination, you'd be replacing the "GA nominee" template with the "GA" one rather than the "FailedGA" one.) I used the time from your original edit shown in Spinningspark's diff. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you , User:BlueMoonset.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much for reviewing this article. It is very difficult for me to cut down an article I wrote. I would like to submit this for GA again in the future. Would you consider doing the work of summarizing the article? SpinningSpark 19:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- I would be honored, but probably will not be able to set aside time to do so until early January,User:Spinningspark. I'd want to set aside a large enough block of time enough time to come to grips with the sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:15, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Not a problem waiting till the new year. SpinningSpark 19:18, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
Nomination of Okieriete Onaodowan for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of 2015 Islamist stabbings in France
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- Page deleted at my request when a "hate crime" getting international headlines turned out to be hoax perpetrated by the "victim." sigh.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:47, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Note that this article was not deleted, it was merged.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:03, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
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E.M.Gregory, there was a response to your review here three weeks ago. Please return as soon as possible to continue the review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:53, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- User:BlueMoonset I will try to get back to this, although it will not happen for several weeks. I am happy to withdraw if someone else wishes to step in.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:02, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
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E.M.Gregory, you never transcluded this nomination on the T:TDYK page, which means it has never been available for consideration as a DYK nomination.
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- I've started the review. Jonathunder (talk) 02:03, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Jeanette Dousdebes Rubio
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Your move of Oklahoma State University homecoming parade crash
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Dubashi
I am going to nominate Dubashi for AfD today. If you can show me reasons not to please let me know. JMHamo (talk) 19:03, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- I ran Proquest news archive searches on all three articles. Lots of reviews of Solomon Time and Randall's other book came up. In major papers. Searched on Hariharan + Dubashi. Major coverage of the film in the large, English-language Indian papers. The thing is, Randall's book is over a decade old, and Dubashi came out years ago. You have to look at the coverage that came out back then.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:33, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- Not good enough in my opinion, as I can't find what you're describing. Examples would be good. Dubashi is now at AfD for deletion. JMHamo (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
"Male immigrants"
Seriously, this is not okay.[6] You've worked on We Are Sthlm scandal so you know perfectly well that there's no mention of the term "taharrush", that those accused of assaults are mostly underage teens and that no mention has been made of Arabs. Taharrush gamea is bad enough as it is, but now you're trying to make the jump from a crude generalization about Arabic culture to include all "immigrants".
At the very least you should address the concerns I raised at Talk:Taharrush gamea#Revert.
Peter Isotalo 20:52, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- You may not like it, but they assailants were males identified by Stefan Löfven, Sweden’s prime minister. as youths form Afghanistan and by the reputable newspaper I cited as male refugees. I really wonder how much time you have spent in Sweden or Germany or elswhere in the Schengen zone this summer and fall? Cities in refugee receiving countries have changed dramatically and very suddenly.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- Taharrush gamea term is being used [7], "Taharrush+gamea"+++stockholm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 in Swedish press reports.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:07, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but this is just straight up prejucided argumentation. You've gone from describing a supposedly Egyptian form of misogynist cultural practice to simply assuming that it applies to all Muslims, even Afghans. You're using Wikipedia as a vehicle for an anti-immigration and anti-Muslim agenda. If you can actually cite sources that where the We Are Sthlm-assaults are described as "taharrush", then just cite them.
- Peter Isotalo 21:17, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- I did. above. and on the article's talk page where this belongs. E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:19, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Actually I !voted Keep...
I was sorry to see your posting at AfD. I actually AGREED to keep the item, since the sources were there. My point was that the world held very few OTHER sources that could ever be added to the article, so notability was marginal at best. My dislike was and remains for the very low bar set by WP:GNG, not for anything in the article, as I made clear in my comment. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:38, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Persian Jews
Thank you. I have friends who are Persian Jews from Hidden Hills/Beverly Hills, but not NY--I don't know much about NY Jewish history. But I will take a look. Btw, if you want to help me expand David Shofet with more referenced info, that'd be very good.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:23, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
FYI, Republicans for Bernie Sanders is definitely a thing, becoming a real national movement. Definitely worth a close watch and possibly an article in the near future.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:52, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Few suggestions
Hi, E.M.Gregory. Saw your edits (1,2) to the Bernie Sanders article. You thanked me for my fixes. You're welcome. Just a couple tips about the fixes. Do not wikilink author names, use the |authorlink=
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Nomination of Alice Goffman for deletion
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Bernie Sanders: America
Would Bernie Sanders: America make more sense as a section within Bernie Sanders presidential campaign, 2016? It seems like it would work better as part of the larger article because of the more context you get. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 18:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- User:Oiyarbepsy I would bow to a consensus, of course, but I was going on the pattern of the Daisy (advertisement); Morning in America; and other ads linked in the category, with short mention on the campaign page linking to the article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:12, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I hardly see Sanders' ad as even remotely close to those two in significance. Those two have had lasting significance and are remembered today, decades later. I don't see that happening with this one. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 19:21, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- Laugh. Indeed. those are certainly the two giants in the category, I looked at one of the articles to figure out what the category was. There are articles on ads significant to more minor impact and races in smaller polities. I added a sentence, and a section on ad purchases to the Sanders campaign article. User:Oiyarbepsy., If you like, I can go to that talk page and ask editors working there for opinions. Of course, the ad doesn't even begin to run until tonight. E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- FYI, I added a photo request in case you are able to upload a screenshot.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:38, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- Laugh. Indeed. those are certainly the two giants in the category, I looked at one of the articles to figure out what the category was. There are articles on ads significant to more minor impact and races in smaller polities. I added a sentence, and a section on ad purchases to the Sanders campaign article. User:Oiyarbepsy., If you like, I can go to that talk page and ask editors working there for opinions. Of course, the ad doesn't even begin to run until tonight. E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
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E.M.Gregory, there's a question for you about this review you started on the review page. Please respond.
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Thanks for taking prompt action on both of these GA reviews. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Doug Scamman
Hello E.M.Gregory,
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Neither the source nor the Wikipedia article about the shooting say there was a thwarted terrorist attack involved. In fact, the Wikipedia article says "Comey announced that the FBI has currently found no evidence that Archer was involved with any terrorist cells or that there are any other planned attacks in Philadelphia."
So I'll repeat the question the IP editor asked you: Where is a source that this was a THWARTED Islamist terrorist attack? Unless you can provide one, don't waste anybody's time by edit-warring over this nonsense.
Maybe you need to look up the meaning of the word thwarted. "To prevent; to halt; to cause to fail; to foil; to frustrate." As an example, Wiktionary gives "The police thwarted the would-be assassin." So I'll repeat the IP editor's question: Where is a source that this was a THWARTED Islamist terrorist attack? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:40, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
- response on article talk page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:58, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Larry Sanders (Green Party) for deletion
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This article you created, Orlando Cicilia, is problematic. I have added a POV tag until it gets fixed. It is true that his history has been widely reported in the national and even international press. However, is it possible to rephrase the article and make it sound more fair and balanced? For example, could we add a referenced "early life" section?Zigzig20s (talk) 07:00, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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- A recent murder that made international news for weeks, brought to AFD by a highly POV editor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:24, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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Book
Hello again. I was wondering if you were interested in helping me expand Buyer's Remorse: How Obama Let Progressives Down, since it was mentioned at the town hall meeting. It has received coverage on MSNBC and RT, but I am not sure if it's been reviewed in the national press yet. I have found this, but I am not sure if it is a reliable reference. I'd like to add a summary and a "critical reception" section with book reviews. Please ping me. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
- Well, it was released just this week, so reviews will probably follow, even though it does not appear to have garnered day of publicaiton reviews. What you can do now is a brief mention of the pre-publication publicity in RS keyed to the Bernie Sanders blurb. I'll come by and see what I can add.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:24, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
- Would you like to do it first?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:30, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've just removed a useless notability tag, but I think we should need to expand it soon. Can you find more serious book reviews please?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:35, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- It's been added back. How annoying.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:29, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've just removed a useless notability tag, but I think we should need to expand it soon. Can you find more serious book reviews please?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:35, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- Would you like to do it first?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:30, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Murder of Ashley Ann Olsen for deletion
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- Widely covered murder brought to AFD by editor who with aggressive political views.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Category:Palestinians inadvertently killed by Palestinian terror attacks has been nominated for discussion
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- Bios can include events - such as this Islamist attack on a police officer. The categories (paroled terrorist, stabbing attack, etc.) apply to one of the two terrorist events in his life.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Please try to WP:AGF and, if you cannot manage that, then at least stop telling lies about my editing and WP:WIKIHOUNDING me.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:19, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Can I ask when I have failed to assume good faith or told a lie about you? AusLondonder (talk) 02:58, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Talk page watcher chiming in to say that this is why we have a page called don't template the regulars. A personal message that actually addressed the specific circumstance would go a long way to avoid unnecessary conflict. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
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- I have not done so. Please take your WP:BATTLE attitude elsewhere.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:08, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Don't post on my talk page and don't make false allegations then. AusLondonder (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Thankyou for your support
Thankyou for expressing your support in a recent discussion on my page. I deleted the last addition there which basically just repeated what was said before and am hoping to not hear more from that editor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC) John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- In the hope that User:Auslander will learn how to WP:AGF and be collegial, I am now posting examples of his WP:BATTLEGROUND edits and behavior on his talk page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:57, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, in your opinion, does 2016 Moscow beheading full under WP:CRIME criteria? Spirit Ethanol (talk) 16:47, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
Let me make this as clear as I know how. Obviously you think the subject of "Anti-semitic anti-Zionism" is notable, or you wouldn't have created an article about it. But other editors do not think so, which is why it has been tagged with {{notability}} and {{original research}}.
If you remove these templates again, I will report you at WP:AE. The article is subject to 1RR and other ARBPIA sanctions. Please stop violating them. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Such templates can be/are routinely removed after adding well-sourced, information supporting notability. If you think this is not notable, take it to AFD. drive-by tagging is mere POV harrassment.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:49, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- What-ever. You're still reverting an edit every time you remove them. And if anybody knows about POV-pushing, it would be you.
- Also, there's no need to copy and paste this thread to my talk page. There's a yellow box on the top of the page that says
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Your GA nomination of Church of the Little Flower (Coral Gables, Florida)
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Your GA nomination of Church of the Little Flower (Coral Gables, Florida)
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I cleaned more of the barf that Content Translator (Content Crapulator) left behind. Could clean more of the refs up? I haven't a clue what everything after (= is supposed to mean. Bgwhite (talk) 18:35, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- User:Bgwhite I cut and pasted it whole from the German wikipedia. It had, at least, the virtue of being a list of his major publications. As far as I'm concerned, you need feel no inhibition if you want to clean it up. I'm reading some of his work and hope to add more substance to the article. Cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:11, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Your contribution needed for Cordelia Mendoza article
The article has been nominated for possible deletion. It was AFD'd some time ago, which ended in "keep." Your contributions toward improving the article would be greatly appreciated. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 04:50, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Here is the original AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cordelia Mendoza. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 18:16, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- User:AuthorAuthor. I think part of the problem is that the article is overstuffed with whole sentences about fairly trivial activities. Could you tighten it? Notability. as I see it, resides the stint as a poster child for the Heart Association, her career as a locally notable antiques and collectibles dealer (a subject on which she is quoted in the press), and the considerable attention paid by the press to her civic activities. Of course people may want to know who she is because of her many notable relatives. But the article would be more persuasive if it was considerably shorter.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:33, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory, I will do that. Thank you. I hope you can contribute to the article as well. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 18:44, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory, I made improvements and substantial changes to the article at the suggestion of you and another editor. I will go back to it again to tweak it some, but I wanted you to know. The AFD discussion is continuing. Your input is appreciated. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 09:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory, could you look again at the article I have improved upon, along with the AfD for Cordelia Mendoza? Thank you. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 02:54, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Massad
I would suggest refactoring your comments about Massad. BLP applies to talk pages, not only to articles. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 00:41, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you, Mr Nice Guy I had no idea that that was a rule.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:46, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I assumed you didn't know. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 00:50, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Church of the Little Flower (Coral Gables, Florida)
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- Aplogies to the project. I started this article upgrade, then entered a period when I have less time for Wikipedia, and lacked time to make the modest improvements called for.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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You may have only found two pre-candidacy mentions for Canova, but I read the original request for feedback on an AfD. I didn't know anything about Canova at the time. As the article stood, three weeks ago, it was clearly insufficient. I found hundreds of pre-candidacy mentions, going back almost 30 years, overwhelmingly more than post-filing mentions. As a result, I started addressing the concerns that bearcat raised, and made a considerable number of changes, getting rid of most of the page as it had initially existed. None of this seems to have any effect on bearcat who seems to be ever more determined to have the article removed. Have you read the actual article? I could post a great deal more to it, but my edits (as well as those made by others) should have more than sufficiently resolved the issue, in my opinion. Though I have made repeated requests to bearcat that his (?) long-resolved issues (such as the inappropriate Reddit sourcing) be removed from his AfD post, he seems to be unwilling to delete them, though he is completely aware that they are no longer contentious. He also has clearly been unwilling to abide by the Wikipedia policy that the first alternative to deletion is for the editor making the request to involve themselves in improving it. Let me know what you think. Thanks. Activist (talk) 19:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- Well, you provoked me to take a very tangential journey. I noticed that you had participated in the recent AfD discussion about the Alice Goffman article, so I took a look at that. The AfD has been resolved, of course. I was not aware of her existence, I'm embarrassed to say, because I have deep credentials in sociology and criminology. I wondered if she was related to Erving Goffman. When I noticed her age, I doubted it, because he died relatively young. I only met him once, but he and I shared a very close friend, who also died young, about the same time as Erving did. Erving had actually given him credit in a book or paper, I was surprised to find, for development of an important idea, even though our friend had never written about it. It was kind of the antithesis of plagiarism. So I was astonished to find Alice was indeed Erving's daughter by his second marriage, when he was about 60 years old when she was born! I noticed you authored a substantial number of articles, so that led me to look at what they were and I was once again astonished to find you'd done one on Landy Cicilia! I had been waiting for that shoe to drop heavily in his brother-in-law's campaign, since I felt it was implausible that he could have been spending a lot of time at his sister's house, which Landy used as a stash pad, and would not have known what was going on. Now that his candidacy has ended, I don't expect the issue to ever be raised. The party may have dodged a real bullet, there. Feel free to erase this note and thanks again for your contributions. Activist (talk) 20:36, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Carrier Air Conditioner move to Mexico
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- I know that we often disagree. I do however regard you as a relatively experienced editor. Which is why I'm bemused at your creation of such a WP:POVFORK which is so patently unencyclopedic. AusLondonder (talk) 15:33, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- this deletion was probably incorrect, since it has become a poster child for offshoring and continues make headlines regularly [8], [9] and more: [10].E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:55, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Spelling differences
Thanks for your post at my talkpage in an unrelated section regarding spelling differences. To be clear, what you are talking about isn't actually a spelling difference per se. You deliberately changed the actual name of a political party as demonstrated: [[Labour Party (UK)|Labor Party]] This just isn't necessary. Would you expect people in other countries to change the spelling of the World Trade Center to World Trade Centre in Wikipedia discussions? That just appears rather WP:POINTY and WP:BATTLEGROUND in itself. Finally, this is not solely "Anglo-American". The spelling "labour" is used widely from the name of the International Labour Organization to being the standard spelling in India, Pakistan, Canada, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica and many more. AusLondonder (talk) 21:51, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- No, I wanted to excise the UK, superfluous in the context, and my born in the USA fingers typed Labor. I posted it to a closely related complaint about tyour BATTLEGROUND editing. Which makes Wikipedia an unnecessarily hostile environment.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:56, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have replied more generally at my talk. However, to be fair you actually typed [[Labour Party (UK)|Labor Party]], ie linking to the article but using a different name. Anyway, let's not get bogged down in this small comment I made five days ago. AusLondonder (talk) 22:06, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
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Nomination of Carrier Air Conditioner move to Mexico for deletion
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- this deletion was probably incorrect, since it has become a poster child for offshoring and continues make headlines regularly [11], [12] and more: [13].E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
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ambassadors
I see your point about ambassadors and would like further discussion with you. Two points come to mind.
1. Is it that only U.S. Ambassadors are notable because there will always be an obscure news article about them?
2. Is Wikipedia making too many things notable. What is very shocking to me is that TV episodes and porn stars are deemed notable. If a TV show is, then an ambassador surely is. But an ambassador is not, so why are TV episodes. I know there is a cited piece, Wikipedia:other crap exists. However, that is simply an excuse to be arbitrary, caprious, unfair, and explaining away bad decisions.
How can this problem be solved? Perhaps, it is to not use "other crap exists" when there is careful comparison of at least a few categories of articles? Ensign Hapuna of the Royal Hawaiian Navy (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
- This rule applies to the ambassadors of all countries. Lots of people have important jobs, but do not have articles because they do their important jobs quietly and without drawing public attention. Ambassadors are often notable, they will have more than the routine mentions that all ambassadors have, routine announcement of their appointment, receptions attended and so forth. A notable ambassador would do something (such as play a significant role in an important negotiation) that draws in-depth profiles in reliable media, or serious analysis of his work in major media, books, and/or policy journals. We have many articles on ambassadors, but only a fraction of ambassadors have articles.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
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I just wanted to apologize if you thought I was saying you were doing something improper when I described the "optics" argument as an end run arrounf WP:N. All I intended was that we should not let how things look to some small segment of readers drive our decision about what to have an article on when we have guidelines for that. JbhTalk 08:52, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
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