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*[[User_talk:Kumioko/Archive 1|'''Jun 2007–Nov 2007''']] |
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*[[User_talk:Kumioko/Archive 2|'''Dec 2007–Feb 2008''']] |
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*[[User_talk:Kumioko/Archive 3|'''Mar 2008–Dec 2008''']] |
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*[[User_talk:Kumioko/Archive 11|'''Jul 2012–Sept 2012''']] |
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*[[User_talk:Kumioko/Archive 12|'''Sep 2012–Dec 2012''']] |
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*[[User_talk:Kumioko/Archive 13|'''Future''']] |
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== Notice == |
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Hello. There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Requesting re-hatting of off-topic digression on VPP|Requesting re-hatting of off-topic digression on VPP]]. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. [[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 01:07, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For always putting the project first, for having a sense of honour and decency. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', <small>06:32, 19 January 2013 (UTC).</small><br /> |
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::Thanks. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 18:55, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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== January 2013 == |
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<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=|link=]] You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''24 hours''' for referring to another editor as "a piece of trash", while knowing such conduct to be sanctionable as a [[WP:NPA|personal attack]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough&diff=533775878&oldid=533745155]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|appeal this block]] by adding below this notice the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}, but you should read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] first. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<font style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</font>]]</span></small> 21:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:uw-block --> |
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:No problem. This is the first block I actually deserved. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 21:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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::No, you also deserved the block for sockpuppetry I gave you. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 22:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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:::That's arguable. Unfortunately the way the rules are written in order for a clean start to be clean, there is a chance of it being called sockpuppetry. Also, there were some false accusions of sockpuppetry in my case. There were assumptions that some edits were me because they came form the same proxy server. That is because the Checkuser tool is far from perfect and difficult to use. That's why I just went back to using my original one. Because of my high edit count, wide breadth of editing and my knowledge of things like templates, policy and the history of the place it would have been impossible to start over. It would only be a matter of time before someone recognized me. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 22:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Truthfully, my situation was what opened my eyes to how screwed up things were, how often we get things wrong and how crappy editors are treated. Before that I thought very highly of the processes. I thought they worked and often supported them. Know I know better because I have been through it. Those who haven't been through it do not know how often the tools get things wrong, how often one bad admin decision can cause terrible harm to the pedia and how quickly the community turns on one of its own for petty and simple reasons without even taking the time to look into the situation. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 22:31, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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:::::Well, no sense in us arguing about the past, I suppose. The discussion's in [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive742#Kumioko block|the archives]] if we ever need to debate it. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 22:35, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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::::::Agreed, besides debating it now won't repair destroyed reputation. It won't change that my bot was shut down and it certainly won't change my chances of ever getting the admin tools and being allowed to contribute to WP on par with my knowledge and abilities. I was pretty well respected up to that point but that all went out the window because a user violated 3RR, I reported them and then I was blocked for a snide comment that I should do it too. But thats the great thing about WP right, we can pick and choose when to follow the rules and one whom and then whoever is the better liked Wikipedia wins the argument. Truly policial democracy in action. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 22:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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:::So what? Not all that is true needs to be stated on Wikipedia. What would it have hurt to let K's statement pass without comment? This is a five year, [//toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=Kumioko&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia 50,000 mainspace] editor...shouldn't our goal be to get him to return to editing productively? How's turning over months old dirt gonna help? <small>[[User talk:NE Ent|NE Ent]]</small> 23:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks NE, its ok though. These additional comments from 28bytes aside I deserved this block. Pissed off as I was at Fram's comments and at the situation I still knew better than to insult another editor and I knew that making them was going to have repercussions. I'm just tired of Fram's shenanigans. Frankly I'm surprised it was only 24 hours. I was expecting a week. |
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::::BTW, I actually have 150, 000 mainspace edits but you have to add [http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=Kumioko%20%28renamed%29&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia these].:-). See you in a couple days. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 23:48, 19 January 2013 (UTC) |
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==Talkback== |
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{{talkback|Malik Shabazz|Your recent deletion of category's|ts=03:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)}} |
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== Please stop == |
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All that's going to happen is RF is going to get dumped on even more and you end up being sanctioned for disruption. <small>[[User talk:NE Ent|NE Ent]]</small> 12:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC) |
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The only way Rich gets back into the community is if ''he'' decides to get on board with the collaborative nature of WP. If it wasn't Fram it'd just be someone else, sooner or later. <small>[[User talk:NE Ent|NE Ent]]</small> 12:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC) |
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:I'm ok with it being someone else if needed. Fram is too involved. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 12:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC) |
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::I see you closed it already. No biggie I am going to keep gathering my links and evidence. It will come up again eventually so I'll just submit it then. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 13:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC) |
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::{{edit conflict}}Look at the numbers -- within minutes of opening the ANI thread you've got five strong opposes and zero support. It's not going to happen. You know I thought the AC sanction was stupid -- I said so at the time -- but everyone's just fed up with the drama and Rich's [[pushing the envelope]]; you're not doing him any favors by raising the issue at ANI. <small>[[User talk:NE Ent|NE Ent]]</small> 13:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC) |
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:::You know I think its funny. I have seen a lot of folks say they think its stupid. I've seen a lot of discussions about how Arbom is bad and yet, no one has the guts to do anything about either. My core problem in this really is not Rich's block. He's a big boy and he brought a lot of that on himself. My problem is with how the case was handled, with the wording of the decisions and how its being enforced through a constant stream of harassment from one or 2 users. It pisses me off even more seeing how the community supports it. Rich had his problems but the majority of his case is built around his performing minor edits. It wasn't the mistakes, it wasn't a violation of admin tools use, it was because he was doing edits that some think are minor. It is absolutely ridiculous. And people say I am an asshole! I just don't like seeing bullies be allowed to do whatever they want because they are clever enough to make attacks look useful. [[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko#top|talk]]) 13:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC) |
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