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:: [[User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi]], there was a libelous edit about Douglas R. Docker traveling to Iraq and become Saddam Hussein's son's piano teacher (!) and another one about him being involved with neo-nazi bands.
:::{{reply|Janthana}} Please stop saying 'libelous': it makes people nervous, the invoking of the courtroom. I was under the impression it was sourced material. If that is the case, it was unlikely to be defamatory. [[User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<sub>'''<font color="green">Muffled<font color="green"></font></font>'''</sub>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<font color="red">Pocketed</font>]]'''''</sup> 11:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
::::Fortuna Imperatrix is correct. This text was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=729377278 removed] by an IP last month because it was sourced to the April 2004 issue of a publication that "went out of print way before 2000". I discovered that this publication's [http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/41147211 WorldCat entry] lists no end date; of course it's possible that the submitting institution was unaware of its conclusion, or possible that it hadn't yet concluded when the WorldCat entry was created and that nobody's updated the entry since its conclusion, but seeing that the IP claimed that the publication's been gone for twenty-ish years now, it's highly unlikely that nobody would have submitted an update, especially as there appears [http://www.strumentiemusica.com still to be] a publication of this name in existence. The IP's claim thus appearing to be badly wrong (either inept or vandalism), I restored the content. And by the way, the block was imposed for personal attacks and disrupting the article by doing things like blanking the infobox; since Janthana refuses to learn, it's highly likely that further blocks will result. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 12:29, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
::: [[User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi]] It WAS libelous and as you well know there is a clear policy against libelous edits of living persons especially wit no or poor references. In this case the references where fabricated and false. Since the admins did not do their job and not only blocked me for doing the right thing, but also reinstated the defamatory edit, I finally wrote to Douglas R. Docker's website. They were kind enough to reply and said they would write directly to Wikipedia. I assume they did, since the whole mess has been revdel'd now, as you said. What is sad is that nobody here bothered doing their job properly and shot the messenger instead of tackling a very serious offense. Docker told me he will probably get here, open a profile and make sure no more libel gets out from Wikipedia. Being an academic myself, and having worked in research for quite a while, I have to say my opinion of the Wikipedia process plummeted after this. Neutrality should be one of the pillars, but this was far from the case in this situation. I found the whole approach superficial, and very biased. Too bad. But again, as I said, the problem has been solved now. [[User:Janthana|Janthana]] ([[User talk:Janthana|talk]]) 11:42, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
:: I'm sorry, but your opinion is still just that: an opinion. You clearly have not learned from your block. Never mind. Thanks, at least for revealing your off-wiki [[WP:CANVAS]]ing :) [[User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<sub>'''<font color="green">Muffled<font color="green"></font></font>'''</sub>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<font color="red">Pocketed</font>]]'''''</sup> 11:48, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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