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Happy editing! Tarheel95 (Talk) 22:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Why (defined as) racist Ben Norton, unreliable, link, words and or definitions should be removed=

Since I was the first to respond after user Alvei..... (weeks after Ben Norton was publicized for his bigotry) posted this Ben Norton link and ideas recently....

From.the following, it seems that Ben Norton is:

Pro China vis-a-vis Uyghur.

Pro Hezbollah.

Anti Israel (and some point yo his anti Jewish bigotry as the drive).

Accused by some Arabs as a bigot too.

Dehumanizing Syrians.

Questionable ethics on journalism and on "facts".

Supporter of brutal Asad regime.

Propagating against the White Helmets.

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• Coda Media called out for disingormation in a July 2020 piece titled "fringe leftists deny the scale of China’s Uyghur oppression." [1]

• His "ethics" in journalism have to be shed a light upon. At least according to this 2015 case.[2].

• In February 2016, he was challenged on his "facts": "The Selective Skepticism of Salon's Ben Norton factually challenged piece in Salon, Ben Norton displays a dazzling skepticism of information from Israeli sources alongside a great acceptance of unfounded anti-Israel conspiracy theories.

• Norton was fired from Salon in 2016 [Dec 1, 2016 Ben Norton on Twitter: "Salon has let me go." http://twitter.com/benjaminnorton/status/804313961529221120].

• He is of those bloggers dehumanizing Sryians. As explained in progressive site Haaretz. As Trump shores up Assad's genocidal regime, America's hard left is cheering him on - Opinion - Israel News | Haaretz.com.

• Point of view... His propaganda war on the White Helmets in Syria. Claiming in July 2018 it was created by the West for propaganda...

He bashed Canada after it announced Canada supporting White Helmets and was careful to omit the following from Canada's statement:

July 21, 2018 Ottawa, Ontario - Global Affairs Canada.

The Honourable Chrystia Freeland, Minister of Foreign Affairs, today released the following statement:

The White Helmets are courageous volunteers and first responders who risk their lives to help their fellow Syrians who have been targeted by senseless violence. When children, women, and men in Syria flee for their lives, the White Helmets run towards danger, towards the rubble, to save the innocent and the wounded. The White Helmets have witnessed vicious atrocities committed by the Assad regime and its backers.

• Ben Norton tweeting on January 3, 2020:.

"Soleimani has an 82% approval rating in Iran, and is a hero in much of the Middle East because he defeated ISIS[.] Meanwhile US client regimes like Saudi Arabia supported ISIS, after the US gave birth to it. The US empire is the world's actual no. 1 bad guy."

• He has been passionately defending against those that condemn Hezbollah, such as in 2017 [3]. And in August 2020 defined as a racist, that his anti Jewish hatred drives him to call Arabs condemning Hezbolah as sellouts."Some People Are So Antisemitic, They Support Hezbollah". August 14, 2020, Algemeiner.

• In June 25, 2019 in a tweet, he implied he doesn't know about uniqueness of the Holocaust. To which user Kaveh replied "Gentiles don't count." Without objection, reaction from Ben.

Quote from an Arab blogger (who shows Ben Norton's shifting statements and flaws): Activists he slammed for using bogus evidence and leftists he derided as ‘tankies’ suddenly became his new best friends as he sucked up to them and pretended he was really with them all along. Norton even resorted to Alt-Right Muslim-bashing anti-terror rhetoric to smear the cause and the people he once defended from such racist attacks. [4].

Issue number 2.

Since Besa Center has been reduced to one single article selected (which asides from Ben Norton no one else is known to write about, at least at the time). A broader picture and context of Besa Center is needed. I69i197496 (talk) 15:32, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Your political opinions and Norton's Political opinions have nothing to do with the Begin Sadat Article , we quoted an article written in Salon by a verified and identified Journalist which is a legitimate third party source and already we backed it up with the primary source of BESA , your algemeiner source is written by anonymous called " Elder of Zion" which is an unverified source and Algemeiner has been accused of deepfaking articles before by Reuters https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-deepfake-activist-idUSKCN24G15E also Hezbollah isn't universally designated as a terrorist organization nor Assad is universally rejected either , it's Norton opinion just like your rejection of Hezbollah and Assad are your own opinions as well . Thank You .AleviQizilbash (talk) 15:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Also blogs aren't sources of information whether Arab or non Arab it doesn't matter , Medium isn't accepted as a source by Wikipedia standards , also the article about ISIS was discussed in the official website of Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei , that's why it should be mentioned yet in balanced way which is already fulfilled in the current format . BESA was mentioned also by PACBI , the Palestinian Campaign to boycott Israeli academics and universities https://bdsmovement.net/news/paid-facebook-ad-bar-ilan-universitys-begin-sadat-center-advocates-increased-%E2%80%9Chopelessness%E2%80%9D so we have to quote the sources that mentioned BESA's orientation whether in negative or positive context . Thank You AleviQizilbash (talk) 15:56, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Your source is BDS movement are you serious? Talking about POVThhings6sz (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:18, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

It's not banned by wikipedia rules , and it also backed up by the primary source of BESA . Thank You AleviQizilbash (talk) 16:32, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Please stop your edit war

You've been reported for your pov push vandalism.Thhings6sz (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:47, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

You are the one who keeps deleting existing citations of existing information , I only reverted your vandalism , you are the one who tries so hard to push his own views at the cost of Wikipedia's neutrality , I believe that you have to be blocked for your hostile behavior . AleviQizilbash (talk) 16:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Your repetitive hostile and disruption... and we are all not one person https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AleviQizilbash&diff=prev&oldid=980445666 . Your extreme behaviour is what it calls attention. Thhings6sz (talk)

You are , but anyway , I've called admins to see the revision history then they can revert the article to it's encyclopedic nature instead of the promotional work and censorship that you are doing . Thank You AleviQizilbash (talk) 18:27, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Nor is there a "conspiracy" by paradise chronicle and others. Please review your destructive behaviour before accusations. Thhings6sz (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:41, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah Sure , nice move for your escalation plan btw , Thank You AleviQizilbash (talk) 18:43, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Instead of lumping everyone maybe it's time to take an honest look how you keep disrupting and getting into editwarring. Thank you. Shukran. Thhings6sz (talk) 19:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

You turned the Begin Sadat Center article into a promotional campaign with tones of exclusive primary sources and deleted all third party sources even deleted citations of existing information then accused me of vandalism and editwarring ! Nice! . AleviQizilbash (talk) 19:11, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Begin–Sadat Center for Strategic Studies

I suggest that you try discussing the changes that you want to make on Talk:Begin–Sadat Center for Strategic Studies. Accusations in edit summaries aren't constructive, and your complaints about other editors won't be given much credence when you haven't even tried reaching consensus on the article talk page yet. Schazjmd (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

I have switched the discussion now to he Talk page , thanks for your kind suggestion AleviQizilbash (talk) 21:06, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

I see that you added an edit request to the talk page. Please consider withdrawing it; an edit request doesn't begin a discussion, it's just rejected or accepted. You need an actual discussion with the other editors.

Looking at your edit request, I suggest you start with one issue, such as the Salon source, and ping the editors who've been reverting you so they can join the discussion. Explain why you think the source should be added. You must be aware of the objections that other editors have expressed to the author of the Salon article, so your statement should address those objections. Hopefully they engage in the discussion and you can all reach consensus on the issue.

In your comments, remember to focus on content, not editors. Good luck. Schazjmd (talk) 23:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for directing me the right way , I started the discussion on the talkpage , however I highly doubt that they would change their mind since they seems to have personal issues with the source over his personal political views that has nothing to do with the original issue , but anyway thank you again for your nice and kind suggestions , you are a good person with good positive energy and dealing in an honest and fair approach , Thank you again so much AleviQizilbash (talk) 05:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I just checked the history It was already rejected the temporary salom "author" (openly pro Asad Hezbollah and Iran) shortly before he was fired over there... Then he added a "source" from Iranian regime...lol. Thhings6sz (talk) 00:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Our like or dislike of the sources has nothing to do with encyclopedic nature of wikipedia , I've kept both sources the pro and the against while your method is actually the one that pushes single POV , thank you AleviQizilbash (talk) 10:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Arab–Israeli conflict discretionary sanctions alert

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You have shown interest in the Arab–Israeli conflict. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:46, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Template:Z33

As per this WP:A/I/PIA you shouldn't edit about the conflict till you reach 500 edits. --Shrike (talk) 10:50, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Is this user AleviQizilbash on some kind of "mission" against a particular group? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alevism&diff=prev&oldid=965701864

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alians&diff=prev&oldid=965702650

Thhings6sz (talk) 00:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Thhings6sz We aren't Crypto Jews ,this why I removed such defamatory nonsense , simple . defamatory conspiracy theories have no place in encyclopedias AleviQizilbash (talk) 10:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

What do you mean by "defamatory" are you throwing negativity on certain groups of people? Thhings6sz (talk) 10:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

No I'm not throwing negativity on certain groups of people , it's just defamatory just like how it's defamatory to accuse Christians of being Crypto Muslims or Muslims of being Crypto Christians and so on , Thank you AleviQizilbash (talk) 10:48, 5 October 2020 (UTC)