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<small>''Discussions made between September 5, 2003 and June 30, 2006 are archived at [[User talk:Christopher Sundita/Archive01]]</small> |
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==Pangasinan References== |
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Hi, since you said you could answer questions on Philippine languages, I was wondering whether you knew of any good Pangasinan references. It appears that all grammar books for Pangasinan written in English are out of print. I'm also very interested in Pangasinan from an academic linguistic pov. I found a few articles in Oceanic Linguistics covering Pangasinan. Do you know of any good papers on it and potentially its relation to other Philippine languages? |
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== ¿Tienes ejemplos? Got examples? == |
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Thanks in advance. |
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¡Hola tocayo! |
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--[[User:Senor fjord|Senor fjord]] 23:21, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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I have a question for you since I have a large interest in language contact phenomena on various levels. Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about Tagolog except that has massive borrowings from Spanish if not massive [[relexification]]. I'd like to use Tagalog as an example sometimes, esp. to avoid using Euro-on-Euro examples; however, I would like to find out your impressions first. So, if you're up for a chat and also want to know more about Montréal and Québec City, let me know! [[User:CJ Withers|CJ Withers]] 06:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:I'm aware of only Benton's books. However, Ilokano linguist Dr. [http://iloko.tripod.com Carl Rubino] wrote an article about Pangasinan for an encyclopedia. It's [http://www.atoni.com/dila/languages/LanguageFacts/Pangasinan.htm here]. [http://dalityapi.tripod.com Sonny Villafania] is a native Pangasinan writer working on a dialogue book with linguist Dr. David Zorc. I'm not sure when that will be ready. Perhaps I'll write an article about Pangasinan. I have sufficient notes, I think. It's just a matter of looking for everything and condensing it into readable form. |
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== Super! == |
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:--[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 10:02, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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OK, here goes... Before reading the Tagalog article, I'd love to know how you, as a L1 speaker, view the "Spanish words" in Tagalog. Also, do Tagalog speakers (unilingual or multi-lingual) who don't know Spanish at all view the "Spanish words" as having a foreign origin? Also, it would be interesting to know if the borrowings were done by L1, L2 or both types of speakers. A relexification process in which the phonological framework of Tagalog was used seems to indicate an L2 borrowing; however, it could also have been non-hispanophone Tagolog speakers who recast L1 hispanophone Tagolog speakers' "hispanisms" or those by people whose mastery of Spanish was like an L1. My question seems confusing, but, again, I want to know if Tagalog could be a good example or a good counter-example. [[User:CJ Withers|CJ Withers]] 07:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Names of countries in Greek== |
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Excellent! Thank you SO MUCH, you hit the nail on the head. I started reading the Filipino vs. Tagalog article and totally understood, esp. about the purist part. You see, years ago, I had a course in Language Contact, but the professor was only interested in creoles and mixed languages; there was no mention of how English is a mixture and how Tagalog is too. In terms of how the vowels "e" and "o" were borrowed into Tagalog, they make Tagalog the poster child for how even phonemes can be borrowed, which my professor was reluctant to admit. |
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::I found [http://fotw.vexillum.com/flags/oly@s28.html an even better page]! --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 08:25, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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Also, in your opinion, how many fully bilingual Tagolog-Spanish speakers were there historically, say, around the turn of the 20th century? Was is also possible for ethnically Tagalogs to grow up only knowing Spanish except, say, to use Tagalog with servants? I'm thinking of how French was a main language for wealthy/prominent Russians who often only used Russian with Russian-speaking monolingual servants... [[User:CJ Withers|CJ Withers]] 07:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Thank you. |
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Thanks again, esp. for the social aspects since we cannot remove the human part of human language! And, yeah, I completely saw the mess concerning Filipino vs. Tagalog. It made me think of the sociolinguistic situation of French here, which I will NOT get into right now. ;-) Btw, I reworked the article on Quebec French, though have yet to redo social aspect because it's touchy and the truth will scare people who only have preconceived notions or imaginings. [[User:CJ Withers|CJ Withers]] 08:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC) |
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I notice that the very last one is "Ellada". I might have expected "Ellas". I seem to recall vaguely that "Ellada" is the accusative case. Are all of these names in the accusative case? [[User:Michael Hardy|Michael Hardy]] 20:13, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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==Administratorship== |
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:Hi Michael, |
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You are invited to accept nomination for administratorship [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Christopher Sundita |here]].May you succeed.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 04:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Sorry for the messy nomination! I'm trying to clean it up.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 04:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:There are two version of modern Greek: [[Katharevousa | Καθαρεύουσα]] and [[Dhimotiki | Δημοτική]] (Demotic). The former is essentially an archaic version of Greek that is used in limited situations and was the dialect used for several generations. Demotic Greek is used by the people and is based on the dialect of Athens and has been the official language of Greek for half a century. |
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Hi, |
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:So, Ελλάς is Katharévusa and Ελλάδα is Dhimotikí and the official name of the country. There are times when Ελλάς is used. If you remember when Greece came out at the opening ceremoines Ελλάς was shouted rather than Ελλάδα. I am guessing it's because it's more forceful or poetic. It's like situation in Japan, where there are two pronunciations - Nihon or Nippon. Nihon is the official name of the country but Nippon is used in certain situations, especially when you're rooting for your country at a sporting event. |
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Just dropped in to say that my oppose has nothing to do with your edit counts. It is just that I am not sure you have been able to keep up with the policy updates with so low interest in discussions. If it weren't so low and so centred (on WT:BABEL), I would have been pressed to support. Saw your contributions; you are an asset to Wikipedia. — [[User:Ambuj.Saxena|Ambuj Saxena]] ([[User_talk:Ambuj.Saxena|talk]]) 19:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:And AFAIK, all the names are in the nominative case. I don't see any reason why they'd be otherwise. But then again, I'm not a Greek expert. Hope this helps. --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 00:07, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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:BTW, congrats on graduation. — [[User:Ambuj.Saxena|Ambuj Saxena]] ([[User_talk:Ambuj.Saxena|talk]]) 19:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Konyo English== |
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Chris, Hi, |
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For the same reasoning of the Kapang syndrome , I really would like to remove the Konyo English section in the [[Englog]] page. At least separate. Merge with Philipine English? It is not encyclopedic. It is pejorative and narrow. What do you think?. Should I put it to vote?--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 01:28, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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I was about to say sorry for the 'plain' and simple, nothing fancy nomination. I was worried when I saw your oppositions. But <big>49 counts</big> and still increasing!!! Nakakaingit ka pare! --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 08:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:Still kind of undecided on this. I saw your message to [[User:seav|seav]] about this. I think that if [[Englog]] is to be merged with [[Philippine English]], then perhaps [[Taglish]] should be moved to. Do they really merit their own articles? I really don't think so and find the merged article more appropriate. I've heard about coño English in the past as well as carabao English. I think these terms should be mentioned and in the most NPOV way as possible. Coño is pejorative, but so is ''[[Nigger (word)|nigger]]'' and it has its own page. It seems to me the difference between ''Kapam syndrome'' and ''Coño English'' is notoriety. Just my 2 cents. Again, I'm not sure where I stand on the issue. I'd like to know what other Filipinos believe. --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 02:00, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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I hope this RfA passes. It is descending into a popularity contest.'''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 03:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::(Late reply - ) There are many paragraph long articles (very short). No real need to merge jut because they are too short. I monitor the new pages for vandalism once in a while. For me, the Conyo English article depicts English speakers in the Philippine as elitist. The nigger article seems more factual, informative and neutral or NPOV compared to the Conyo English article. The Konyo English is subjective and doesn't seem neutral. --( Rant follows >:[ ) --In college, I witnessed a librarian berate a speaker because he didn't talk Tagalog and treating him as if he were a snobby rich brat and implying that speaking Tagalog was too condescending for him. It turned out he was from Malaysia(they look like Filipinoes). There are many Indonesians and Malaysians who coerced to speaking Tagalog because of this. English is just another language, especially here in Japan. This attitude should really change. Btw, the Malaysians and Indonesians know a lot about the Philippines, Jose Rizal, etc. but we know little about them. Also if you know Spanish , it would be good if you could translate some articles. I translated a little like some paragraphs of Tagalog and created language links. with my pobre castillano. Keep up the good work. [[User:Jondel|Jondel]] |
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==FTB== |
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:::As for the Konyo English, you know what Wikipedia philosophy is - change it to NPOV. :-D Interesting story, I've not met many Indonesians here in the US. I've met one a few years ago. Akala ko Pinay siya kaya sabi ko sa kaniya "Kumusta!" Tapos ang sagot niya sa 'kin "¡Muy bien! But I am not Mexican! I am Indonesian!" So I reply to her by saying "Saya tidak dari Mexico. Saya tau Filipino. Apa kabar?" Nagulat tuloy. hehe. |
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First of all, second those congratulations on your graduation, will you go on to do a masters? Second of all, thank you _very much_ for your input over at [[User:FrancisTyers/Fuck the Border|ftb]]. Its always great to get input from a bilingual native speaker, and a linguist no less :) Thirdly, good luck on your RfA. - [[User:f-m-t|FrancisTyers]] [[User_talk:f-m-t|·]] 09:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:::I do speak Spanish, but I'm afraid I don't have time at this point to dedicate myself to it. I really want to get through the English stuff first. I have plans for the other Philippine languages but my vacation ends this weekend, so it's on hold for now. Kapampangan will probably be first. I did create an account on the Spanish page and did a bit some corrections on tagalo. |
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== adminship to de-adminship == |
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:::Also, I tend to avoid the word "Malay." It was invented by H. Otley Beyer last century when he couldn't fit the brown people in the Negroid-Caucasoid-Mongoloid mold. I prefer Austronesian. |
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Christopher, have you considered listing yourself at [[:Category:Administrators open to recall|this category]]? A "campaign promise" to do so might assuage concerns that you're not experienced or knowledgeable enough about policy. btw, thanks for answering my question about page moves. Whatever you decide to do, good luck in your RfA!--[[User:Kchase02|Kchase02]] [[User_talk:Kchase02|T]] 00:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks for writing. --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 07:56, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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== Ergative == |
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*[[Wikipedia:Image use policy]] |
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I just wanted to post Tagalog language in the examples of Ergative-absolute language. |
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BTW, would you be studying Latin. Another seperate issue. Are the Tagalog words nanay, tatay and (?)sikmura, nahuatl? Thanks. --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 04:50, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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:For Tagalog to have Nahuatl words, they'd have to come through Spanish. The words nanay, tatay, and sikmura are not used in Spanish to my knowledge. The Nahuatl word for mother is nantli and the word for father is tahtli. Sikmura, if you mean stomach, is ititl. |
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== Q&A == |
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:--[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 07:18, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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:8. Why do you want to be an administrator? |
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==Enrique the interpreter of Magellan== |
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::A Use of the company car. |
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Could Malay have been the lingua franca in Cebu when Ferdinand Magellan arrived there? There is dispute that Enrique is Malaysian or Filipino. He was able to salute and greet Cebu natives whe F. M. arrived in Cebu. F. M. was in the Spice islands a few decades earlier. Enrique is the first man to have circumnavigate the world. F. M. did not( He died enroute). --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 02:51, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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This is the best answer I have seen for this question. BTW, you don't have Hindi as one of your user languages. Did you seek help to write hindi? Or did you use a translator? Regards, — [[User:Ambuj.Saxena|Ambuj Saxena]] ([[User_talk:Ambuj.Saxena|talk]]) 16:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:From what I remember about Antonio Pigafetta's writings (which I do not have with me anymore), Enrique used Cebuano words and not Malay ones. So this is plausible evidence that Enrique is Cebuano. However, it is also possible that Cebu had influence in the region particularly in trading - also plausible evidence that he's Malaysian. Other than that, I don't know. --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 03:26, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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== Request for Adminship == |
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::According to this [http://magazine.virtualmalaysia.com/sepoct03/view.cfm?article=enrique&page=2 (Pigafetta's account search Sumatra)] he couldn't speak with the common natives but with the Royalty and traders which is a feature of a lingua franca(Malay), he couldn't speak Cebuano. In Malaysian literature, he has the appellation Panglima Awang. Still, the Malaysian/s who authored the article maybe biased. Did Pigafetta really say, he could only talk to Cebuano royalty and traders and not to the natives? --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 04:27, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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:::You may want to read [http://groups.google.com/groups?q=enrique+pigafetta+owen&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=1996Oct24.163039.1%40hkucc.hku.hk&rnum=1 this usenet thread]. --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 04:33, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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::::Isa pang hirit. - Very interesting. Maybe he was from Cebu after all. I wish I could read Pigafetta's actual account though. --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 06:26, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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!<big>Congratulations!</big> |
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|'''It is my great pleasure to inform you that your [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Christopher Sundita|Request for Adminship]] has</br>[[Wikipedia:Recently_created_admins|closed successfully]] and you are [[Special:Log/rights|now an administrator]]!'''</br> |
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If you have questions, feel free to leave a talk page message for me or any other admin. Again, congratulations! <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:Essjay|<span style="color:#7b68ee;">'''Essjay'''</span>]] [[User talk:Essjay|<span style="color:#7b68ee;">(<small>Talk</small>)</span>]]</span> 05:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Oranges and orange juice.jpg|200px|right|thumb|a toast]] |
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[[Image:Balloons-aj.svg|200px|thumb|left|Congratulations, Christopher Sundita on your promotion to administrator!! --[[User:FloNight|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''FloNight'''</span>]] [[User talk:FloNight|<span style="color:green;"><sup>''talk''</sup></span>]] 05:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)]] |
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'''Yes''' - The right decision. All the best. '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]''' <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User talk:Blnguyen|rant-line]] 05:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:Congratulation! Have fun learning how to use them. If you need help give me a yell. Be good. [[User:FloNight|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''FloNight'''</span>]] [[User talk:FloNight|<span style="color:green;"><sup>''talk''</sup></span>]] 05:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Invitation to Edit [[Spanish in the Philippines]]== |
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[[Image:AdminStar.jpg|right|thumb|Admin Star, from the [[Stone of the Sun]]. Congratulations. Wear it in good health. Beware the power. --[[User:Ancheta Wis|Ancheta Wis]] 08:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)]] |
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Chris , I'd like to invite you to edit the above page. (I 'm thinking of posting the same invitation at the Hispanofilipino group.) There is no need to invite you of course because I don't and can not dominate the page nor restrict anyone. Neither is wikipedia made that way. The reason for this message is that I once in a while see the discussion in the Hispanic Filipino group and the above page is criticized. (like the "it represents colonization")I don't like to get involved in imbrolgios. This page is open to edits but since no one edits I did it myself. Nobody seems to want to contribute only criticize. Take for example the Filipino-Mexico link? There seems to be interest but nobody seems to want to create the page and already I anticipate cricisms already. Anyway, que sera sera.... --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 08:24, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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::Although I opposed you, congratulations from me too. — [[User:Ambuj.Saxena|Ambuj Saxena]] ([[User_talk:Ambuj.Saxena|talk]]) 06:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:(edit conflict) Congrats, Christopher! I really wanted to support during your RfA, but was told it's a bad idea to vote in someone else's during your own. :| I wish you luck in your admin career. :) <b><i style="color:#FF00FF;">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">u</span>]]|[[User talk:Kylu|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">t</span>]]) </i></b> 06:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Congratulations!--[[User:Kchase02|Kchase]] [[User_talk:Kchase02|T]] 07:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Originality of [[Languages of the Philippines]] (Copyright violation.)== |
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Is being disputed. This was copied onto many other websites. If you are not too busy , I would highly appreciate investigation. Thanks ,--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 10:50, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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Yup congrats!!! [[User:Alphachimp|<span style="color:DarkSlateGray;">'''Alphachimp'''</span>]] [[User talk:Alphachimp|'''<sup style="color:Black;">talk</sup>''']] 23:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Stick to the Description== |
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Neutral? If it is neutral then it should stick to the DESCRIPTION. And why include only the Philippines and Latin America, AS IF they were the only nations that were colonized.[[User:Laloy|Laloy]] 22:13, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC) |
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*Well deserved! Congrats, and I'm sure you'll do a great job! -- [[User:Samir_(The_Scope)|Samir]] <small>[[User_talk:Samir_(The_Scope)|धर्म]]</small> 23:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Like when did I deny the IMSCF Syndrome. Accusing a person with IMSCF has been a FAD. Many people accuse someone having IMSCF without even knowing their family background. There seems to be a huge problem with CRAB Mentality rather than Colonial Mentality. I've noticed that many Filipinos who accuse other Filipinos to have IMSCF also claim European Ancestry. |
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Ditto! <tt style="color:#161;">RadioKirk<small> ([[User:RadioKirk|u]]|[[User talk:RadioKirk|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/RadioKirk|c]])</small></tt> 23:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines]] == |
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Congrats.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 00:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Hello, you might be interested in helping flesh-out the [[Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines]] page, so that we can centralize our efforts in improving [[List of Philippine-related topics|Philippine-related articles]] especially linguistic-related articles. :) —[[User:Seav|seav]] 00:13, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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*Squeak!... What's done is done - hope you use them well. Congrats and good luck. - <b>[[User:Crzrussian|CrazyRussian]]</b><small> [[User_talk:Crzrussian|talk]]/[[Special:Emailuser/Crzrussian|email]]</small> 01:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Congrats - sorry about the car. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 03:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==[[Mi Último Adiós]]== |
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Has a [[Vfd]] , please vote to keep or move to wikisource. Thanks.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 00:19, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC) |
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Congratulations, and you're very welcome! --[[User:Merovingian|M]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">'''e'''</span>]][[User:Merovingian|rovingian]] ([[User talk:Merovingian|T]], [[Special:Contributions/Merovingian|C]], [[Special:Emailuser/Merovingian|@]]) 03:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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I have now added some background info.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 01:45, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC) |
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Congrats to the new multilingual admin! But did you really get a vote from only one Irish speaker, so you used the singular there? How sad... ;-) [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 06:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==[[Latin Union]]== |
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: Plural would have been ''go raibh maith agaibh'' (roughly {{IPA|ɡə rə ˈmaɪh əɡəv}}). ''Tole sint Hiberni...'' :-) [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 19:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Would you know if the Philippines is a member of the Latin Union. I've searched the Spanish search engines. Nothing conclusive. The LU website shows the Philippines as a member. An anonymous insists otherwise. --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 08:56, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC) |
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Shit, looks like I missed the party, anyway, congratulations from me too :) - [[User:f-m-t|FrancisTyers]] [[User_talk:f-m-t|·]] 19:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Congratulations from me! [[User:Swinger222|huntersquid]] 23:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==[[Help/Socorro]]== |
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Hello!! Hola! Hace mucho Tiempo? I'm not a Spanish native speaker, as you know and I'm having trouble with a user Dodo at the Spanish wiki. He deleted huge portions because I used machine translation. Still it is vandalism to delete whole portions. See Spanish [[Lupang Hinirang]] I reverted it for now but he may retaliate. If you are too busy its ok. Thanks. --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 07:43, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC) |
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That was a funny joke about the company car :) |
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[[Image:WikiThanks.png|right]] Another linguist! Nice to meet you, and thanks for updating many of the Ethnologue links at language articles (which earns you this sunflower of thanks)! I spotted you because you hit several African languages on your way. Thanks again! Kind regards, — [[User:Mark Dingemanse|mark]] [[User Talk:Mark Dingemanse|✎]] 07:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC) |
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I am happy that your nomination passed successfully. Now your real test begins: Please be careful when you need to block. Sure, I want you to enjoy those functions, but know that every move will be scrutinized. Good luck. [[User:Mostly Rainy|Mostly Rainy]] 01:48, 16 July 2006 (UTC) |
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"It is most common among Filipinos" |
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:Hi! Regarding your RfA thank-you message: You shouldn't have capitalised "danke", just FYI. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]][[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green;">a</span>]][[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 11:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==RfA Congrats Swap!== |
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:Thank you for the support on my RfA, and congrats again to you for yours! ^.^ <b><i style="color:#FF00FF;">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">u</span>]]|[[User talk:Kylu|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">t</span>]]) </i></b> 23:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==You're invited :)== |
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it's still a GENERALIZATION. I read your profile and it seems that you're one of those who have that IMSCF Syndrome. Why don't you just say you're Filipino, since your almost full filipino? Mexicans don't go saying. I'm mexican with spanish ancestry. They just say they're mexicans It seems you're like the Filipino mestizos. You feel superior to those "full-blooded" native filipinos by indicating all your european ancestry. |
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== [[User:Bubba ditto]] == |
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''it's still a GENERALIZATION. I read your profile and it seems that you're one of those who have that IMSCF Syndrome. Why don't you just say you're Filipino, since your almost full filipino? Mexicans don't go saying. I'm mexican with spanish ancestry. They just say they're mexicans It seems you're like the Filipino mestizos. You feel superior to those "full-blooded" native filipinos by indicating all your european ancestry.'' |
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Just a heads up -- this user, who you blocked before, is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR&diff=65592946&oldid=65554733 back]. [[User:Catamorphism|Catamorphism]] 23:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Not sure who wrote this, but pretty chicken of them not to put their name. In any case, what does identity or acknowledging of ''known'' ancestors has to do with IMSCF syndrome? It seems you do not comprehend what it really means. |
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== [[List of Magsaysay awardees]] == |
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It sounds like a true Filipino too who uses the inferior/superior tactic, when it has nothing to do with that, but simply a matter of colonial mentality at work and idolizing made up ancestors. |
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Hello. I have been populating the above mentioned list since a few days and the list is now complete. I searched around for some wikipedians from Philippines and came to your page. I don't have much knowledge about Philippines or names used in that region. Could you have a look at all the names and check their spellings? There may be some people who already have articles on wikipedia but they still show as red links due to spelling mistakes that I may have made. Thanks. If you don't have much time, I will ask someone else. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 17:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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I have many cousins who have only 1 grandparent that was a Filipino. That would make them only 1/4 Filipino. So are you saying that we should now begin using blood quantum to determine what a Filipino is? And because they have only 1 Filipino grandparent out of the 4, that they are now no longer Filipino? That is not only ridiculous, but you need to keep in mind that you cannot dictate to people how they identify themselves. However in the case of IMSCF syndrome, it is a matter of generalization without the ability to verify the truth that people are misled into believing. For example, it would be like your average American to say that they are descendants of pilgrims and slaves when in reality their great-grandparents could have been from Poland. |
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: Thanks for the quick action. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]] - [[Wikipedia:Editor Review/Aksi great|review me]]) 11:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Ethnicities== |
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Thanks for informing me. I’ll have my views posted once I’ve read through the arguments. –[[User:Lagalag|Lagalag]] 07:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC) |
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==Filipinos by Ethnic or National Origin== |
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== clarification == |
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*There was no consensus to delete these categories. Why are you deleting them? Thanks [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] 05:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC) |
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*You are violating the process of the 'delete category discussion list'. Deleting by de-population is still deleting, just trying to get around the rules. I have asked that all your work be reverted. |
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''it's still a GENERALIZATION. I read your profile and it seems that you're one of those who have that IMSCF Syndrome. Why don't you just say you're Filipino, since your almost full filipino? Mexicans don't go saying. I'm mexican with spanish ancestry. They just say they're mexicans It seems you're like the Filipino mestizos. You feel superior to those "full-blooded" native filipinos by indicating all your european ancestry.'' |
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[[User:Hmains|Hmains]] 05:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC) |
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What does identity or acknowledging of ''known'' ancestors has to do with IMSCF syndrome? It seems you do not comprehend what it really means. |
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*It is a fact that you ignored the content of the articles. The content (fact) of the articles governs what categories they belong in--not your personal ideas that are in conflict with the articles. You should know better than to have done these deletions and ignored all WP processes for fact determination. Thanks [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] 21:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC) |
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It sounds like a true Filipino too who uses the inferior/superior tactic, when it has nothing to do with that, but simply a matter of colonial mentality at work and idolizing made up ancestors. |
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*Copied from my talk page "I've already alerted the Filipino community here on WP on the best way to handle this. --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris S.]] 21:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)" |
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I have many cousins who have only 1 grandparent that was a Filipino. That would make them only 1/4 Filipino. So are you saying that we should now begin using blood quantum to determine what a Filipino is? And because they have only 1 Filipino grandparent out of the 4, that they are now no longer Filipino? That is not only ridiculous, but you need to keep in mind that you cannot dictate to people how they identify themselves. However in the case of IMSCF syndrome, it is a matter of generalization without the ability to verify the truth that people are misled into believing. For example, it would be like your average American to say that they are descendants of pilgrims and slaves when in reality their great-grandparents could have been from Poland. [[User:Mamoahina|Mamoahina]] |
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Are you talking about 'ethnic Filipino editors on WP' or 'WP editors (regardless of ethnic or national origin) who are interested in Philippine topics'? Thanks [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] 22:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC) |
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*I did not write the content of these articles and have no resources to check the facts stated in the articles. I do not do WP article writing: I work on copyedits and on categories. |
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On the matter of categories, I go by what the text of the articles say. Thus, I respect the WP editing process under which many editors have contributed to the current article content. I do not look elsewhere for information and do not imagine that I have any better information than what is stated in the article. Thus, if an article says a person is a Filipino and was born of a Filipino mother and a Spanish father (or vise verse), then, to me, the article is properly categorized when it has been placed in [[:Category:Spanish-Filipinos]]. Again, I did not generally add such categories in the first place, but would have done so based on the facts presented in the article and now defend the use of the category for the same reason. |
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==Administratorship== |
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Thanks.I will give it a try although I'm a bit uncomfortable with the disputes whichb admins have to deal with. Also I'v been campaigning for the unbanning of [[User:DrZoidberg]], so timing might be bad. He doesn't make article edits just sandbox edits.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 13:58, 30 July 2005 (UTC) |
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When you say you have done all this research and, based on your research, the category should be deleted from the article, I find it very strange. If you have done such research, then the first thing to change is the text of the article. If you have found that the mother or father (as the case may be) of the Filipino was not, in fact, Spanish, but something else, then you should change the text of the article accordingly. You have not changed any of the text of the articles (for all other interested editors to evaluate), so it looks like you are just using your personal opinion to negate the efforts of all the previous editors of these articles. And that you are just doing mass category deletes with no particular examination of, or respect for, the articles' texts. Generalizations cannot be made: each article must be examined individually, as I did yesterday in re-adding most (not all) of the categories and adding discussion notes for editors to consider. |
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== Instant messaging == |
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You may be right or you may be wrong in your assertions as to what categories are correct. I do not know. What I do know is that you are short-circuiting the entire WP article editing process to achieve the results you want to obtain. |
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Hi Chris, |
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I am sorry I have to write the above, but I am given no real choice in the matter and still do my job as a WP editor. I hope you will consider what I have written. |
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I added you on Yahoo! Instant messenger, but I'm not sure you use it. Do you use it, or any other IM clients? Just curious. --[[User:Node ue|Node]] |
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Thanks [[User:Hmains|Hmains]] 04:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:Hi again, |
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:My AIM SN is Ichiu Psi deDown |
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:[[User:Node ue|Node]] 21:46, 2 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== admin right abuse == |
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please obstain from abusing your admin rights. respect [[WP:DEL]]. [[User:Tobias Conradi|Tobias Conradi]] [[User_talk:Tobias Conradi|(Talk)]] 18:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC) |
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==Open/close== |
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Curiosity. Do you or your parents sometimes say open /close the light /computer as opposed to switch on/off. My relatives in the US unconsciously do.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 01:13, 3 August 2005 (UTC) |
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:'''I''' say it unconsciously, and I'm the one born in America. lol. My parents don't say it much. But for us, it's more like a once in a blue moon kinda thing. My three grandparents who are Filipino say it, though. --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris]] 01:44, 3 August 2005 (UTC) |
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your abuses are here: |
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== [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/FeloniousMonk]] == |
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# 17:44, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Iloilo (province) to Iloilo (Back to Iloilo.) (revert) |
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I strongly urge you to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=FeloniousMonk&offset=0&limit=500edit look into] [[User_talk:FeloniousMonk|this user]] more closely, and rethink your vote. [[User:Sam Spade|¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸]][[User talk:Sam Spade|¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Emailuser&target=Sam_Spade ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸] 03:07, 6 August 2005 (UTC) |
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# 17:44, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) deleted "Iloilo" (Deleted to make way for move.) |
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# 17:43, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Talk:Iloilo to Talk:Iloilo (disambiguation) (Iloilo will be for the province.) (revert) |
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# 17:43, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Iloilo to Iloilo (disambiguation) (Iloilo will be for the province.) (revert) |
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# 17:41, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Pangasinan (province) to Pangasinan (rv move by Tobias Conradi) (revert) |
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# 17:41, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) deleted "Pangasinan" (Deleted to make way for move.) |
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# 17:38, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Cebu (province) to Cebu (rv move by Tobias Conradi) (revert) |
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# 17:38, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) deleted "Cebu" (Deleted to make way for move.) |
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please revert the moves and undelete the stuff you deleted. [[User:Tobias Conradi|Tobias Conradi]] [[User_talk:Tobias Conradi|(Talk)]] 19:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Thanks for your support == |
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with respect to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATobias_Conradi&diff=70293627&oldid=70286506] I ask you again not to abuse your admin rights. [[User:Tobias Conradi|Tobias Conradi]] [[User_talk:Tobias Conradi|(Talk)]] 20:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC) |
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Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. I was surprised and humbled by the number of positives votes. I'll be monitoring RfA regularly from now on and will look for a chance to "pay it forward". Cheers, --[[User:MarkSweep|MarkSweep]] 01:39, 7 August 2005 (UTC) |
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You are not allowed to use your admin rights in editing conflicts against another editor. Thanks for telling that you will not do this on the recent conflict with me anymore. You should not do this anywhere again. About the content itself: Me too I tried to find a good naming scheme. Maybe 50% of the PH provinces have conflicting names. The island of Cebu is much older and much more known e.g. to me than the province. So I would strongly favor having a dab there. This way we can better wipe out wrong links. All links to the dab pages should be reviewed. There are people in WP that fix links to dab pages. Putting the provinces to "X Province", "X (province)" or whatever forces the editors to be more precise. I agree that "X Province" maybe is not the best solution, "X (province)" may be better, because lot's of provinces do not need the dab. [[User:Tobias Conradi|Tobias Conradi]] [[User_talk:Tobias Conradi|(Talk)]] 20:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Thanks for voting on my RfA == |
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With respect to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tobias_Conradi&diff=70295519&oldid=70293627] and your preceding edits there, and with respect to your recent additional deletions I ask you to revert the deletions and stop abusing your admin rights. The input of other editors as you write, does not allow you to abuse your rights. [[User:Tobias Conradi|Tobias Conradi]] [[User_talk:Tobias Conradi|(Talk)]] 15:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC) |
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Hi, Thanks for voting on my RfA. Having been elected, I hope to justify your faith in me. Thanks again. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 05:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== Masbatenyo/Bisakol == |
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Christopher, |
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==Ilokano literature article== |
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I am unclear in looking at your original entry for Bisakol whether you meant the term to include Masbatenyo or not. On Google, I find a lot showing the term is used for the Warayan languages of southern Sorsogon, but nothing indicating it is used for Masbatenyo. |
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I have a personal interest in this area, my wife and three children are from Legazpi City and one son's fiancee is from Masbate. |
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Yes, Masbateño is considered a Bisakol language. Sorsoganon and Masbateño are very similar. --Chris S. 06:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC) |
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Thanks. Okay, what about this new term, Sorsoganon? Does it refer to both Sorsogon Masbate and Sorsogon Waray, as used by Ethnologue and [[Languages_of_the_Philippines]]? Should it be used in the [[Bisakol]] article? |
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[[User:Mikenassau|Mikenassau]] 23:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC) |
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==Help!?== |
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Chris, thanks, I read on blog about daan a sistema ti panagbilang dagiti Ilokano. Thank you also for reading my blog. I am now experiencing the same predicament regarding wikipedia editing. In the Ilokano literature article that I started, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Ed666 somebody] is editing an original essay I lifted from a book (particularly changing some terms in it) and he is insisting his authority and when I demand his/her explanation or opinion, he/she insulted me by saying ''"Ilocano is the standard English spelling and Wikipedia is written in English. Roy V. Aragon, don't you understand that? Can you understand my simple English? Please don't make me mad."'' I find it ridiculous. He/she doesn't want to discuss the thing with me and he/she goes on deleting my edits and reverting his/her own revisions to the essay. I'm thinking that I may just exclude the said essay, and write my own, in fairness to the author (Jose A. Bragado) who's is actually my "ninong sa kasal." |
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Do you know an expert on Austronesian peoples and history, because this article seems to be [[POV]] ~ ''[[Prehistoric Malaysia]]'' [[User:23prootie|23prootie]] 09:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Bikol languages == |
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Chris, may I know what's your opinion? I know, may maipapayo ka sa akin kasi mas marami kang nalalaman sa wikipedia stuffs lalo na sa administration at editing. Can I refer this to Jondel (administrator)? |
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[[Image:Bikol languages.png|thumb|right|250px]] |
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[[User:Saluyot|Saluyot]] 00:54, August 8, 2005 (UTC) |
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Sorry it's taken me a while to get around to this map... I just keep getting preoccupied with stuff. :p Consider this current image as a first draft. Are the colors alright? Should Tagalog and Hiligaynon and Cebuano have different shades of gray, and labels? Image size? Font size? Don't hesitate to make comments and suggestions and requests. :) [[User:TheCoffee|Coffee]] 14:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC) |
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==Award== |
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Congratulations on the award again. No thanks in illonggo? Discrimination! Just kidding. Please feel free to tidy it up a bit like what user: thecoffee did. --[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 02:28, 12 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== Salut mon chum! == |
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== Cebuano Translations for the Babel Thing == |
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Hi Chris, |
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Here are the translations you requested in the Cebuano wiki [http://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Unang_Panid] |
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Chris, maudit tabarnouche! Comment ça ce fait que t'way t'appris l'joual? |
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*Mga bisdak ni sila. |
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*Ngilngig ni sila magbinisaya. |
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*Arang-arang ni ilang binisaya. |
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*Hilaw ni ilang binisaya. |
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*Hilaw ni iyang binisaya. |
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*Arang-arang ni iyang binisaya. |
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*Ngilngig ni siya magbinisaya. |
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*Bisdak ni siya. |
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*Kahibalo ni sila magbinisaya. |
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Seriously, I'm an anglophone, and despite being born, raised and living my whole life in Quebec, my French and my Joual are embarrassingly bad. (I'm even ashamed too admit it, but what does "itou" mean when you said "Moé itou"? I'm guessing one of two things: "Me and you" (Moi et toi) or "Me too" (Moi aussi). Actually, my French isn't so bad, I'm pretty fluent, it's just that here in ''La Belle Province'' the standards are much higher to consider yourself fluent. If, for example I lived in Toronto my French would be considered perfect, even moreso in the US. Here though, I'm just another ''maudit tête carré''! |
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The translations above are contemporary Cebuano. They are accurate in the sense that these are how a contemporary Cebuano would probably translate your sentences. They are ambiguous however since they could equally mean that one is poor/intermediate/expert in Waray-waray, Illonggo, Aklanon, etc. |
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Anyway, your userpage says you're from the Pacific Northwest. I'm assuming you're talking about the US, meaning you're from Oregon or Washington (no need to tell me where exactly, I respect privacy.) But if so, how did you ever pick up Joual? Did you ever live back east here in Quebec? |
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The following translations are less representative of Cebuano actually used and they are longer and they sound wierd. Some would also say that they do not use "genuine" Cebuano words (like "Cebuano") - I would disagree with this, but that's another story. These translations however are more accurate in terms of conveying what you want to say. |
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You must have an interesting story to tell. It would be great to hear it. |
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*Mga lumad ni sila nga tigsulti sa sinultian nga Cebuano. ("Mga lumad nga Cebuano" would mean native Cebuanos, which would not neccessarily mean they speak Cebuano like a native Cebuano speaker, whatever that means) |
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*Mauswag ni sila sa pagsulti sa sinultian nga Cebuano. (Kauswagan btw is progress) |
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*Arang-arang ni ang ilang sinultian sa Cebuano. |
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*Mabaw ni ang ilang sinultian sa Cebuano. |
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*Mabaw ni ang iyang sinultian sa Cebuano. |
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*Arang-arang ni ang iyang sinultian sa Cebuano. |
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*Mauswag ni siya sa pagsulti sa sinultian nga Cebuano. |
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*Lumad ni siya nga tigsulti sa sinultian nga Cebuano. |
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*Makasulti ni sila ug Cebuano. |
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À la prochaine, mon chum! [[User:Loomis51|Loomis]] 23:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC) |
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Nam Unius Linguae, Uniusque Moris Regnum Imbecile et Fragilum! |
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--[[User:Nino Gonzales|Nino Gonzales]] 06:56, 12 August 2005 (UTC) |
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:Hey Chris, I got your message and I'll definitely check out the article. I should have written back earlier, buck I've had a tonne of things to do. It's a holiday for me now (but don't take that the wrong way, my people's holidays are FAR from "relaxing"!) |
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==Have you seen these?== |
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[[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of Catholic Actresses and Actors]] and [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of Catholic Criminals]] [[User:Doohickey|Doohickey]] 16:36, 12 August 2005 (UTC) |
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:En tous cas, j'espere que moé j'vais avoir du temp libre aussi tôt que possible, pour continuer d'echanger des idées sur l'Joual...à bientôt, mon chum! [[User:Loomis51|Loomis]] 23:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Many Thanks== |
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Thanks for supporting my RFA. [[User:FeloniousMonk|FeloniousMonk]] 16:56, 15 August 2005 (UTC) |
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==Luzon origin== |
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I saw your question at the hispano forum. In old latin maps, Luzon is referred to as Luconia. There are for example shoals of Luconia. I think this would be a cognate of Ilokano.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 06:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Kapampangan == |
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==Moldovan in Cyrillic== |
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Hi Chris, |
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My boyfriend is from Angeles City. |
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This is just to let you know that Node and I added some more comments on [[Talk:Moldovan language]], if you still want to follow the discussion. I'd appreciate a comment from you in the talk page, if you can find time to drop a line. Thank you, [[User:Gutza|Gutza]] 12:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC) |
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There is currently not a single book out there to learn Kapampangan, so I am in bad luck if I want to learn it. |
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I have started a wikibook [http://en.wikibooks,org/wiki/Kapampangan here] to try and get people to help me write a textbook on Kapampangan. If you are fluent, please do not hesitate to help out! |
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Cheers. [[User:Lgriot|Lgriot]] 08:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:Je suis impressionné par ton Français: probablement meilleur que le mien! Je vais faire un peu de travail sur le livre [[wikibooks:Kapampangan]] dans les mois qui viennent, je te ferai savoir quand il aura une taille raisonnable. Peut-être pourras-tu vérifier que je n'ai pas écrit de non-sens. [[User:Lgriot|Lgriot]] 17:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Italian == |
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Ciao Christopher, sono Olando, sono italiano, parlo molto poco inglese, puoi aiutarmi con la pagina utente e con la wiki inglese. Capisci? Rispondimi --[[User:Olando|Olando]] 10:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Self-identification with ethnic group== |
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Chris, I understand that [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28categories%29#Heritage|self-identification with a particular ethnicity]] is important in determining whether a person’s article is to be placed under categories such as “Filipino-Americans” or “German-Filipinos”. This means that if an n<sup>th</sup>-generation German immigrant, who happens to be prominent enough to warrant an article in WP, does not identify with his German heritage (as has been quite common in the Philippines), he should not be placed under the “German-Filipinos” category. |
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However, what if his son—also well-known and with his own WP article—were to, unlike his father, identify himself firmly with his German heritage? Is the son to be placed under the “German-Filipinos” category while the father not? (The same goes with the Chinese-Filipino who no longer identifies himself with or has disowned his family’s Chinese heritage.) Of course this is all mostly hypothetical, but what if? —[[User:Lagalag|Lagalag]] 14:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:I know of no German-Filipino community either, and most of the Filipinos of significant German ancestry I personally know do not even speak German. However, many of them identify themselves ''individually'' as German-Filipino, or have consciously come to do so. Though we can’t force people to change their minds, this leads me to ask: is this wrong? That is, is it necessary for a wider ''N''-Filipino community to exist before one can ''truly'' consider himself ''N''-Filipino? —[[User:Lagalag|Lagalag]] 11:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::How these people can identify themselves as German-Filipinos, despite there (to my knowledge) being no organized German-Filipino associations, I cannot say. Perhaps it is identification ''as'', rather than ''with''. A lot of people do that, perhaps even in your country. |
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::On Filipinos with multiple ancestries, I agree, it does get kind of ridiculous to refer to oneself as “X-Y-Z-A-Filipino”, or to even refer to other people as such (let alone create such categories for them), as was done it the case of [[David Bautista|Batista]]’s WP article, where at one point he was described as “Greek-Filipino-American” (or “Filipino-Greek-American”). |
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::As for Spanish-Filipinos, I’ve been thinking about it, and I don’t think they necessarily have strong ties with one another, or that they form a community by themselves. The way I see it, ''all'' Filipino whites and mestizos regard themselves as members of one informal (but well-established) community, regardless of whether they’re Spanish, Italian, German, American, or whatever. I think it has more to do with having a shared mindest or worldview based on common experience (not necessarily experienced together) than with being wealthy, given that the Chinese are not regarded as part of this community, who anyway have an exclusive community of their own. —[[User:Lagalag|Lagalag]] 07:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Let's vote for [[Mariano Trias]]== |
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Hey there [[User:Christopher Sundita|Christopher Sundita]]! I would like to ask for your vote for the article of [[Mariano Trias]] in [[Wikipedia|Wikipedia's]] [[Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive|Article Creation and Improvement Drive]]. |
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I believe that this article still needs a bit of clean-up and expansion. I hope you would vote for the article in this [[Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive#Mariano Trias|link]]. |
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Thanks a lot!!! ---- [[User:Emperork|Kevin Ray]] 10:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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==Arnaiz and Aboitiz== |
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Come to think of it, I based it on Arnaiz’s physical characteristics and his surname. I could have been mistaken after all. Either way, I’m removing him from the category. |
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As for the Aboitizes, they were described as a Basque family in the [[Basque diaspora]] article. —[[User:Lagalag|Lagalag]] 04:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Please don't delete the "Euromalays" article== |
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Why is my article "Euromalays" subjected to deletion? Did I write anything bias or offensive? Why is it subjected to such harsh treatment? I tried to put as much reference as I can. I just wanted to know why. |
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== Hello == |
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Hi Chris, I was led by links and links to your websites, and back here at wiki. Well, the reason I am messaging you is that I am trying to track an essay "Filipino modes of knowing" by Jaime Polo. Just checking if you have access to it, or knows how to access it. Please let me know or direct me. Thanks. --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] 06:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC) |
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: Correction: correct title is ''Critiquing Filipino modes of knowing'' by Jaime B. Polo.--[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 09:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== [[User:Fernando Rizo|Fernando Rizo]]'s RfA == |
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== Request for deletion of the category "American-Filipinos" and article of the same name == |
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Gracias por tu confianza en mi. :) I'll be the best admin I can. Hope to see you around the Wiki, caballero. [[User:Fernando Rizo|Fernando Rizo]] [[User_talk:Fernando Rizo|''T'']]/[[Special:Contributions/Fernando_Rizo|''C'']] 19:18, 20 August 2005 (UTC) |
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Good day, Chris. Through user Lagalag, it came to my knowledge that the article "American-Filipinos" and the category of the same name are being put up for deletion. As such, I sent the following reply to Lagalag citing, to the best of my abilities, the reasons why it doesn't deserve to be deleted: |
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==Adminship== |
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Chris: Thank you for supporting my nomination for adminship. I received many votes from editors that I encounter frequently, which is re-assuring, but I am honoured that you and others that I don't know through Wikipedia saw fit to support the nomination. The admin powers will enable me to patrol for vandals more effectively, amongst other things. I promise to use my new powers for [[good]], and not to inflict the retribution on [[Al Roker|my enemies]] that they so richly deserve, as tempting as that may be. ;-) Thanks again, Kevin. [[User:Ground Zero|Ground Zero]] 13:31, 22 August 2005 (UTC) |
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:Lagalag, before you make any motion to request the deletion of the category "American-Filipinos" and the article of the same name, please give me valid reasons as to why they need to be deleted. Otherwise, I don't see any reason to permit such action. |
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==Conversational Latin== |
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Salve! Scisne loqui latine? I am thingking of studying latin but with more focus on conversation. Are you formally studying Latin? I hope you're not dead yet. Rumor has it that it killed the Romans.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 00:25, 24 August 2005 (UTC) |
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:As we all know, Filipino-Americans, or American citizens with one or both parents who is/are Filipino/s by ethnic origin, do exist in vast numbers in the United States and even elsewhere in the world. But so do American-Filipinos, or Filipino citizens with one or both parents who is/are American/s by ethnic origin. They also exist in reality and in fact number '''quite significantly''' here in the Philippines and even elsewhere in the world as well. |
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== Salamat sa pagboboto sa akin == |
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:Honestly, I myself wouldn't personally create an article or category or edit an article if I know very well if a subject or subjects concerned '''do not''' exist in reality. I have already read Wikipedia's terms and conditions and have personally made a vow to abide by it '''at all times'''. Creating the above category and making the necessary article editions are just some of my own little ways of making a significant contribution to human thought through proper education and information, and I do not in any way intend to harm anyone through misinformation by using this website. And if in any way I did misinform anyone though any erroneous or inappropriate contributions I made to this website, I hereby offer my sincerest apologies for my actions. I do understand and appreciate your concerns about my creation and editing of some articles and categories here, but I do hope you would also be able to understand and appreciate whatever contributions I have brought to this wonderful website for the benefit of all. Thank you very much. |
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Maraming salamat sa iyo, daghang kaayong salamat kanimo, etc... :p Thanks for your vote of support at my request for adminship. :) [[User:TheCoffee|Coffee]] 06:43, 25 August 2005 (UTC) |
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After receiving my letter to him/her, Lagalag then sent me the following reply: |
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== Impressive Babel == |
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:Hi. I can appreciate your perspective, having inferred from your response that you live in the Philippines and as such may be very much aware of how things are on the ground. However, please know that it was Chris S. who initiated the motion, for reasons he has specified on the CfD page, and not I. I only thought it proper to inform you, being the creator of the category. Best regards. |
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Hello! You've got a pretty impressive Babel. Of course, starting early is a big advantage. ;-) [[User:Tonymec|Tonymec]] 23:15, 27 August 2005 (UTC) |
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I have already read in the CfD section of this website the reasons you stated why you want the article/category "American-Filipinos" to be deleted from this website altogether. Just because there seems to be no consensus as to the existence of a particular term (even though it does perfectly makes sense) means to say that the term itself doesn't even have the right to exist at all. It's comparable to denying the existence of a particular word in the English language just because it is not in common usage by the general populace (e.g. such rarely used English words as ''abecedarian'' and ''funambulist''). If you would order the deletion of the term above from the Wikipedia database, it would also be then proper to have all the other articles and categories of the same nature to be deleted here altogether as well '''to be fair to all the peoples of the world''' (e.g. Filipino-Americans, German-Americans, Italian-Argentines, etc.). |
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:''Ah, j'ai vu votre commentaire dans mon talk ... Et je suis en désaccord avec vous ... C'est votre Babel qui est impressionant. La plupart de mes langues sont du premier niveau ... mais c'est pas comme ça pour les vôtres. ! :-D --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris S.]] 02:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)'' |
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As I have already stated above, I have already read Wikipedia's terms and conditions and have personally made a vow to abide by it at all times. This means to say that I would never, ever attempt to submit any information here which I have no solid evidence of to prove its factual existence or vandalize this website for no reason other than pure malice. I do hope that my explanation above should clearly define the meaning of the term American-Filipino for everybody's information and personal understanding. Thank you. |
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::<nowiki>:-)</nowiki> Nous parlons chacun 4 langues "très bien" ou "couramment" (niveau 3 ou supérieur). Pour les autres niveaux, tout est dans la manière de les compter. Est-ce que deux niveaux-2 et deux niveaux-1 valent mieux qu'un niveau-2 et cinq niveaux-1? L'italien et l'espagnol ressemblent assez au français pour que je puisse "inventer" un mot inconnu ou oublié avec une chance de tomber juste; mais pour rédiger je n'oserais pas me passer d'un dictionnaire. Quant au russe, je peux me "démerder" pour demander mon chemin; mais pour déchiffrer n'importe quel texte un tant soit peu technique, j'ai besoin d'un dictionnaire. De toute façon, j'espère que vous conviendrez que le fait de commencer jeune reste un avantage: beaucoup de Français ou de Britanniques (sans parler des États-Uniens) n'ont aucun contact avec une autre langue que leur langue maternelle avant l'âge de 14 ans, et c'est bien trop tard pour arriver à une maîtrise "décente" de la langue; leur oreille et leur bouche (et les zones linguistiques de leur cerveau) sont à cet âge déjà "figées" dans les schémas linguistiques de la seule langue qu'ils connaissent. -- [[User:Tonymec|Tonymec]] 04:02, 28 August 2005 (UTC) |
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P.S. I have read in your biography that you are also of Filipino heritage. I myself am personally very proud of my Filipino heritage and would do anything, even in my own little way, to enrich everyone's factual knowledge of the Philippines and the wonders, pains and joys of being a true-blooded Filipino. |
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Have you checked the [[international phonetic alphabet]] table? {{unicode|/ɐ/}} is pronounced like a very open o, and it is the right IPA letter for Occitan, so please don't change it again. [[User:Hardouin|Hardouin]] 11:16, 29 August 2005 (UTC) |
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--[[User:Pinoy Pride|Pinoy Pride]] 15:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Locator maps for [[Philippine Tarsier]] and [[Chocolate Hills]] == |
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== Scimitar's RfA == |
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Hi! I just saw that you made the Cebuano distribution map. I am wondering if you can extend the same assistance to the above articles. Please let me know. --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 09:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:It has been quite a while since we've been looking for "experts" on these kinds of things.--[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 09:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==[[Eskayan]] of the [[Eskaya]]== |
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Maybe I can also interest you in looking into these articles? --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 09:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:The [[Eskaya]] just went through a major overhaul, and IMHO, the present form is all inclusive of all existing information on the cultural minority. The [[Eskayan]] will have a major revision soon, pending additional resources we are getting in our hands. The current [[Eskayan]] is mostly from [http://www.bibingka.com/dahon/mystery/eskaya.htm The Philippine Leaf], and has posed more controversy more than anything...--[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 15:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==[[Panaghoy sa Suba]]== |
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I will ask around re the DVD copy. I watched it both on big screen in Manila (perteng gamaya ra jud sa tawo) and also on DVD (just between us, pirated lang so dili klaro and medyo hanap2 kaayo) which has been passed around. I will check and get back to you on this. (BTW, do you get in touch with the Filipino community in WA, i.e., Vic Pineda, etc.?)--[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 15:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC) |
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::Hi Chris, basin di ko ka access sa wiki kay mo out of town mi, maayong Pasko ug bulahang bag-ong tuig na lang kanimo! --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 01:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Season's Greetings! == |
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Thanks for supporting my request for administrator powers, which has been successful. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks again! [[User:Scimitar|Scimitar]] [[User talk:Scimitar|<sup>parley</sup>]] 16:48, 1 September 2005 (UTC) |
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Enjoy [http://wonderofitall.com/ this] and [http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/ this] --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay06]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|Talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|Email]]) 05:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Thanks for your support! == |
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Dear Christopher Sundita, thanks for your vote of confidance at my [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Asbestos|RfA]]. I'll try hard to make the soggy mop proud! — [[User:Asbestos|Asbestos]] | [[User talk:Asbestos|<FONT COLOR=#808080>Talk </FONT>]] [[User:Asbestos/RFC|<FONT COLOR=#808080><small>(RFC)</small></FONT>]] 19:19, 2 September 2005 (UTC) |
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==Vannakam== |
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Really great ! So you still remember the word ''Vannakam'', which I had used in one of my earliest edits (?) or still better, you already knew the word. And, instead of beginning with [[Namaskar]], I would today end by wishing you Namaskar. --[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]] 15:21, 13 September 2005 (UTC) |
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==Indonesia collaboration== |
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== Bmicomp's RfA == |
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Hi there. This fortnight's [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Indonesia/Collaboration|Indonesia Collaboration]] is '''> > > [[Indonesian language]] < < <'''. Please contribute! Please nominate for the next collab '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indonesia/Collaboration#Suggest_or_support_here:|here]]'''. What about choosing one the shorter '''[[:Category:Stub-Class_Indonesia_articles|Indonesia stubs]]''' this time? kind regards [[User:Merbabu|Merbabu]] 15:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Well, [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bmicomp|my RfA]] has not quite completed yet, but either way, I'd like to thank you for your vote and your support, regardless of the outcome. -- [[User:Bmicomp|BMIComp]] [[User_talk:bmicomp|(talk]], [[User:bmicomp/RfC|HOWS MY DRIVING)]] 17:57, 13 September 2005 (UTC) |
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== Mediation == |
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== А так вы учитесь русскому языку? == |
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Can I ask for your services in mediation between me and [[User:Pmgomez|Pmgomez]]? He seems to ignore consensus and doesn't respond in a rightful manner, saying things such as "fun" or "See for yourself." Also, he doesn't seem to relent on replacing [[:Template:Infobox Philippine High School with [[:Template:Infobox Secondary School]] despite efforts of explanation, and asking for his opinions (in which he'll respond with "fun," again). Hope you'll help. --<b>[[User:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Howard</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">the</span>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<span style="color:#FFA500;">Duck</span>]]</b> 07:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Хорошо! :-) А почему вы перестал с немецким? Слишком труден ли он? Но русский ещё труднее! ;-) [[User:Tonymec|Tonymec]] 07:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:Where's the discussion taking place? Tambayan? --[[User:Christopher Sundita|Chris S.]] 08:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Eskaya images == |
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::Hope you find something fascinating to read in it. Russian can sound beautiful, and not only when sung by a deep bass voice on an opera scene. Even without understanding the language (and <s>without bothering to look</s> before looking it all up in the dictionary, I was moved by the beauty of — guess what? Tal's preface to the Russian translation of Nimzovich's ''My System''! (That preface is not in the German original, nor in translations into other languages.) So: Some prefer Dostoyevsky, others Botvinnik, Tal and Kasparov. ;-) |
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::If [[Kant]] or [[Lessing]] are boring you, try the texts of the German-language songs by [[Mozart]], like the cantata "Dir, Seele des Weltalls, O Sonne" [[Köchel-Verzeichnis|KV]] [[K. 429|429]], or ''[[The Magic Flute]].'' -- [[User:Tonymec|Tonymec]] 05:26, 16 September 2005 (UTC) |
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[http://perezsez.blogspot.com/2006/10/adios-patria-adorada.html These] are pictures of the [[Eskaya]] and their writings. Do you think we can link this to the article? I read somewhere that blogs are not reliable. Is that case-to-case or across the board? Please advice. --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|email]]) 18:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Thank you== |
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: Hi Cris, the owner of the blog has helped me with the [[Eskaya]] article. He will upload the pics in commons once he gets permission from the NCIP or National Commission on Indigenous Peoples...The [[Eskayan]] article should give you a little idea on the language, but like I previously said, it still has to be overhauled. As of now, it is based mainly on Hector's The Philippine Leaf. I will check and ask permission if I can provide you with the pdf files of the language so you can take a look at it and maybe help with the [[Eskayan]] article? I am no linguist, so it is kinda hard for me...--[[User:Pinay06|Pinay]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|email]]) 19:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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::Exact words under. <!--I wish to take this slowly due to permissions regarding language and those photographed. I can't get in touch with the NCIP at the moment but I'll keep trying. -->--[[User:Pinay06|Pinay]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|email]]) 20:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Let me know when you got them all right...----[[User:Pinay06|Pinay]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|email]]) 22:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Hi! Just read your Salita blog. Great blog on Eskaya Chris! It's linked to [[Eskayan]] if you don't mind. I still haven't heard from Perez, so the link to his blog will wait, unless you think it is okey. --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|email]]) 02:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::Yes, got your email. Sent you Perez permission re the PDF files. Sure, Chris, go ahead and write the new entry. Your point is very valid. As the papers say, there are many theories. And yours is one of them. Message me when you are done so I can read it, too. --[[User:Pinay06|Pinay]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|email]]) 02:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Greetings!== |
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Hello, I thank you for your support to my [[Wikipedia:Administrator|adminship]]. We shall surely interact more. --[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]] 10:17, 18 September 2005 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Fireworksxyz.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Happy [[New Year]]!!!]] |
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--[[User:Pinay06|Pinay]] ([[User talk:Pinay06|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Pinay06|email]]) 02:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==Interlingua== |
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es plus facile etudiar. It is very very easy to learn and may take no more than 1 day or even 2 hours for you with your knowledge of Spanish and French. Honest.--[[User:Jondel|Jondel]] 00:33, 21 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:Eĉ pli facila por ''aktiva'' uzo ol [[Interlingua]] (laŭ mia opinio), ĉar pli regula, estas [[Esperanto]]. It also has more speakers worldwide, maybe in part because it is much less Romance-centred. -- [[User:Tonymec|Tonymec]] 05:52, 21 September 2005 (UTC) |
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::I know French but when corresponding with Spanish or Portugeuse people I always use Interlingua which is easier to understand. I wouldn't have learned it if it wasn't for the fact that it lets me communicate with a few hundred million people (in writing that is) with only a few words here and there that they might not know. [[User:211.37.78.63|211.37.78.63]] 17:36, 21 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:::And in what language do they reply? I know several languages, including French (mother language) and some Spanish and Italian, but when corresponding or talking with people from Japan, Russia, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Croatia, Uzbekistan, Brazil, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Israel, et al., or with several of these (and maybe some others) at the same time, I'd rather use Esperanto if the other person(s) understand(s) it. <br/> Sorry Christopher, it seems we are busy spamming your page. -- [[User:Tonymec|Tonymec]] 13:28, 22 September 2005 (UTC) |
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== Filipino people == |
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==Thank you== |
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Hi. Yes I somewhat agree on what your talking about. Maybe you could show me some good pics/examples of what should be in the collage? Because I kind of don't like the one that we have on now, the pictures are unproportionate and it looks dirty and sad. <br> |
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Thanks, Chris, for your support. It is about time, isn't it? [[User:Oavcacananta|Oavcacananta]] 04:51, 2 October 2005 (UTC) |
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[[User:Coojah|Coojah]] 00:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:Hello again. Is this any better? [[User:Coojah|Coojah]] 01:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC) [[Image:Filipino 2.JPG|250px|thumb]] |
Latest revision as of 10:31, 10 March 2023
Discussions made between September 5, 2003 and June 30, 2006 are archived at User talk:Christopher Sundita/Archive01
¿Tienes ejemplos? Got examples?
[edit]¡Hola tocayo!
I have a question for you since I have a large interest in language contact phenomena on various levels. Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about Tagolog except that has massive borrowings from Spanish if not massive relexification. I'd like to use Tagalog as an example sometimes, esp. to avoid using Euro-on-Euro examples; however, I would like to find out your impressions first. So, if you're up for a chat and also want to know more about Montréal and Québec City, let me know! CJ Withers 06:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Super!
[edit]OK, here goes... Before reading the Tagalog article, I'd love to know how you, as a L1 speaker, view the "Spanish words" in Tagalog. Also, do Tagalog speakers (unilingual or multi-lingual) who don't know Spanish at all view the "Spanish words" as having a foreign origin? Also, it would be interesting to know if the borrowings were done by L1, L2 or both types of speakers. A relexification process in which the phonological framework of Tagalog was used seems to indicate an L2 borrowing; however, it could also have been non-hispanophone Tagolog speakers who recast L1 hispanophone Tagolog speakers' "hispanisms" or those by people whose mastery of Spanish was like an L1. My question seems confusing, but, again, I want to know if Tagalog could be a good example or a good counter-example. CJ Withers 07:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Excellent! Thank you SO MUCH, you hit the nail on the head. I started reading the Filipino vs. Tagalog article and totally understood, esp. about the purist part. You see, years ago, I had a course in Language Contact, but the professor was only interested in creoles and mixed languages; there was no mention of how English is a mixture and how Tagalog is too. In terms of how the vowels "e" and "o" were borrowed into Tagalog, they make Tagalog the poster child for how even phonemes can be borrowed, which my professor was reluctant to admit.
Also, in your opinion, how many fully bilingual Tagolog-Spanish speakers were there historically, say, around the turn of the 20th century? Was is also possible for ethnically Tagalogs to grow up only knowing Spanish except, say, to use Tagalog with servants? I'm thinking of how French was a main language for wealthy/prominent Russians who often only used Russian with Russian-speaking monolingual servants... CJ Withers 07:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again, esp. for the social aspects since we cannot remove the human part of human language! And, yeah, I completely saw the mess concerning Filipino vs. Tagalog. It made me think of the sociolinguistic situation of French here, which I will NOT get into right now. ;-) Btw, I reworked the article on Quebec French, though have yet to redo social aspect because it's touchy and the truth will scare people who only have preconceived notions or imaginings. CJ Withers 08:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Administratorship
[edit]You are invited to accept nomination for administratorship here.May you succeed.--Jondel 04:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for the messy nomination! I'm trying to clean it up.--Jondel 04:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
Just dropped in to say that my oppose has nothing to do with your edit counts. It is just that I am not sure you have been able to keep up with the policy updates with so low interest in discussions. If it weren't so low and so centred (on WT:BABEL), I would have been pressed to support. Saw your contributions; you are an asset to Wikipedia. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, congrats on graduation. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I was about to say sorry for the 'plain' and simple, nothing fancy nomination. I was worried when I saw your oppositions. But 49 counts and still increasing!!! Nakakaingit ka pare! --Jondel 08:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I hope this RfA passes. It is descending into a popularity contest.Blnguyen | rant-line 03:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
FTB
[edit]First of all, second those congratulations on your graduation, will you go on to do a masters? Second of all, thank you _very much_ for your input over at ftb. Its always great to get input from a bilingual native speaker, and a linguist no less :) Thirdly, good luck on your RfA. - FrancisTyers · 09:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
adminship to de-adminship
[edit]Christopher, have you considered listing yourself at this category? A "campaign promise" to do so might assuage concerns that you're not experienced or knowledgeable enough about policy. btw, thanks for answering my question about page moves. Whatever you decide to do, good luck in your RfA!--Kchase02 T 00:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
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Q&A
[edit]- 8. Why do you want to be an administrator?
- A Use of the company car.
This is the best answer I have seen for this question. BTW, you don't have Hindi as one of your user languages. Did you seek help to write hindi? Or did you use a translator? Regards, — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Request for Adminship
[edit]Congratulations! |
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It is my great pleasure to inform you that your Request for Adminship has closed successfully and you are now an administrator! Useful Links: |
If you have questions, feel free to leave a talk page message for me or any other admin. Again, congratulations! Essjay (Talk) 05:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes - The right decision. All the best. Blnguyen | rant-line 05:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Congratulation! Have fun learning how to use them. If you need help give me a yell. Be good. FloNight talk 05:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Although I opposed you, congratulations from me too. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Congrats, Christopher! I really wanted to support during your RfA, but was told it's a bad idea to vote in someone else's during your own. :| I wish you luck in your admin career. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 06:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations!--Kchase T 07:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Yup congrats!!! Alphachimp talk 23:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well deserved! Congrats, and I'm sure you'll do a great job! -- Samir धर्म 23:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Ditto! RadioKirk (u|t|c) 23:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Congrats.--Jusjih 00:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Squeak!... What's done is done - hope you use them well. Congrats and good luck. - CrazyRussian talk/email 01:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Congrats - sorry about the car. ViridaeTalk 03:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations, and you're very welcome! --Merovingian (T, C, @) 03:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Congrats to the new multilingual admin! But did you really get a vote from only one Irish speaker, so you used the singular there? How sad... ;-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Plural would have been go raibh maith agaibh (roughly ɡə rə ˈmaɪh əɡəv). Tole sint Hiberni... :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Shit, looks like I missed the party, anyway, congratulations from me too :) - FrancisTyers · 19:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations from me! huntersquid 23:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Your recent RFA
[edit]That was a funny joke about the company car :)
I am happy that your nomination passed successfully. Now your real test begins: Please be careful when you need to block. Sure, I want you to enjoy those functions, but know that every move will be scrutinized. Good luck. Mostly Rainy 01:48, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi! Regarding your RfA thank-you message: You shouldn't have capitalised "danke", just FYI. —Nightstallion (?) 11:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
RfA Congrats Swap!
[edit]Thanks for contributing to my successful RfA! | ||
To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations! To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well! ♥! ~Kylu (u|t) 23:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC) |
- Thank you for the support on my RfA, and congrats again to you for yours! ^.^ ~Kylu (u|t) 23:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
You're invited :)
[edit]Just a heads up -- this user, who you blocked before, is back. Catamorphism 23:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I have been populating the above mentioned list since a few days and the list is now complete. I searched around for some wikipedians from Philippines and came to your page. I don't have much knowledge about Philippines or names used in that region. Could you have a look at all the names and check their spellings? There may be some people who already have articles on wikipedia but they still show as red links due to spelling mistakes that I may have made. Thanks. If you don't have much time, I will ask someone else. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick action. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 11:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Ethnicities
[edit]Thanks for informing me. I’ll have my views posted once I’ve read through the arguments. –Lagalag 07:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Filipinos by Ethnic or National Origin
[edit]- There was no consensus to delete these categories. Why are you deleting them? Thanks Hmains 05:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- You are violating the process of the 'delete category discussion list'. Deleting by de-population is still deleting, just trying to get around the rules. I have asked that all your work be reverted.
Hmains 05:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- It is a fact that you ignored the content of the articles. The content (fact) of the articles governs what categories they belong in--not your personal ideas that are in conflict with the articles. You should know better than to have done these deletions and ignored all WP processes for fact determination. Thanks Hmains 21:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Copied from my talk page "I've already alerted the Filipino community here on WP on the best way to handle this. --Chris S. 21:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)"
Are you talking about 'ethnic Filipino editors on WP' or 'WP editors (regardless of ethnic or national origin) who are interested in Philippine topics'? Thanks Hmains 22:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- I did not write the content of these articles and have no resources to check the facts stated in the articles. I do not do WP article writing: I work on copyedits and on categories.
On the matter of categories, I go by what the text of the articles say. Thus, I respect the WP editing process under which many editors have contributed to the current article content. I do not look elsewhere for information and do not imagine that I have any better information than what is stated in the article. Thus, if an article says a person is a Filipino and was born of a Filipino mother and a Spanish father (or vise verse), then, to me, the article is properly categorized when it has been placed in Category:Spanish-Filipinos. Again, I did not generally add such categories in the first place, but would have done so based on the facts presented in the article and now defend the use of the category for the same reason.
When you say you have done all this research and, based on your research, the category should be deleted from the article, I find it very strange. If you have done such research, then the first thing to change is the text of the article. If you have found that the mother or father (as the case may be) of the Filipino was not, in fact, Spanish, but something else, then you should change the text of the article accordingly. You have not changed any of the text of the articles (for all other interested editors to evaluate), so it looks like you are just using your personal opinion to negate the efforts of all the previous editors of these articles. And that you are just doing mass category deletes with no particular examination of, or respect for, the articles' texts. Generalizations cannot be made: each article must be examined individually, as I did yesterday in re-adding most (not all) of the categories and adding discussion notes for editors to consider.
You may be right or you may be wrong in your assertions as to what categories are correct. I do not know. What I do know is that you are short-circuiting the entire WP article editing process to achieve the results you want to obtain.
I am sorry I have to write the above, but I am given no real choice in the matter and still do my job as a WP editor. I hope you will consider what I have written.
Thanks Hmains 04:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
admin right abuse
[edit]please obstain from abusing your admin rights. respect WP:DEL. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 18:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
your abuses are here:
- 17:44, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Iloilo (province) to Iloilo (Back to Iloilo.) (revert)
- 17:44, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) deleted "Iloilo" (Deleted to make way for move.)
- 17:43, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Talk:Iloilo to Talk:Iloilo (disambiguation) (Iloilo will be for the province.) (revert)
- 17:43, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Iloilo to Iloilo (disambiguation) (Iloilo will be for the province.) (revert)
- 17:41, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Pangasinan (province) to Pangasinan (rv move by Tobias Conradi) (revert)
- 17:41, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) deleted "Pangasinan" (Deleted to make way for move.)
- 17:38, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) moved Cebu (province) to Cebu (rv move by Tobias Conradi) (revert)
- 17:38, 17 August 2006 Christopher Sundita (Talk | contribs) deleted "Cebu" (Deleted to make way for move.)
please revert the moves and undelete the stuff you deleted. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
with respect to [1] I ask you again not to abuse your admin rights. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 20:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
You are not allowed to use your admin rights in editing conflicts against another editor. Thanks for telling that you will not do this on the recent conflict with me anymore. You should not do this anywhere again. About the content itself: Me too I tried to find a good naming scheme. Maybe 50% of the PH provinces have conflicting names. The island of Cebu is much older and much more known e.g. to me than the province. So I would strongly favor having a dab there. This way we can better wipe out wrong links. All links to the dab pages should be reviewed. There are people in WP that fix links to dab pages. Putting the provinces to "X Province", "X (province)" or whatever forces the editors to be more precise. I agree that "X Province" maybe is not the best solution, "X (province)" may be better, because lot's of provinces do not need the dab. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 20:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
With respect to [2] and your preceding edits there, and with respect to your recent additional deletions I ask you to revert the deletions and stop abusing your admin rights. The input of other editors as you write, does not allow you to abuse your rights. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Masbatenyo/Bisakol
[edit]Christopher, I am unclear in looking at your original entry for Bisakol whether you meant the term to include Masbatenyo or not. On Google, I find a lot showing the term is used for the Warayan languages of southern Sorsogon, but nothing indicating it is used for Masbatenyo. I have a personal interest in this area, my wife and three children are from Legazpi City and one son's fiancee is from Masbate. Mike
Yes, Masbateño is considered a Bisakol language. Sorsoganon and Masbateño are very similar. --Chris S. 06:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Okay, what about this new term, Sorsoganon? Does it refer to both Sorsogon Masbate and Sorsogon Waray, as used by Ethnologue and Languages_of_the_Philippines? Should it be used in the Bisakol article? Mikenassau 23:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Help!?
[edit]Do you know an expert on Austronesian peoples and history, because this article seems to be POV ~ Prehistoric Malaysia 23prootie 09:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Bikol languages
[edit]Sorry it's taken me a while to get around to this map... I just keep getting preoccupied with stuff. :p Consider this current image as a first draft. Are the colors alright? Should Tagalog and Hiligaynon and Cebuano have different shades of gray, and labels? Image size? Font size? Don't hesitate to make comments and suggestions and requests. :) Coffee 14:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Salut mon chum!
[edit]Chris, maudit tabarnouche! Comment ça ce fait que t'way t'appris l'joual?
Seriously, I'm an anglophone, and despite being born, raised and living my whole life in Quebec, my French and my Joual are embarrassingly bad. (I'm even ashamed too admit it, but what does "itou" mean when you said "Moé itou"? I'm guessing one of two things: "Me and you" (Moi et toi) or "Me too" (Moi aussi). Actually, my French isn't so bad, I'm pretty fluent, it's just that here in La Belle Province the standards are much higher to consider yourself fluent. If, for example I lived in Toronto my French would be considered perfect, even moreso in the US. Here though, I'm just another maudit tête carré!
Anyway, your userpage says you're from the Pacific Northwest. I'm assuming you're talking about the US, meaning you're from Oregon or Washington (no need to tell me where exactly, I respect privacy.) But if so, how did you ever pick up Joual? Did you ever live back east here in Quebec?
You must have an interesting story to tell. It would be great to hear it.
À la prochaine, mon chum! Loomis 23:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Hey Chris, I got your message and I'll definitely check out the article. I should have written back earlier, buck I've had a tonne of things to do. It's a holiday for me now (but don't take that the wrong way, my people's holidays are FAR from "relaxing"!)
- En tous cas, j'espere que moé j'vais avoir du temp libre aussi tôt que possible, pour continuer d'echanger des idées sur l'Joual...à bientôt, mon chum! Loomis 23:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Luzon origin
[edit]I saw your question at the hispano forum. In old latin maps, Luzon is referred to as Luconia. There are for example shoals of Luconia. I think this would be a cognate of Ilokano.--Jondel 06:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Kapampangan
[edit]Hi Chris,
My boyfriend is from Angeles City.
There is currently not a single book out there to learn Kapampangan, so I am in bad luck if I want to learn it. I have started a wikibook here to try and get people to help me write a textbook on Kapampangan. If you are fluent, please do not hesitate to help out! Cheers. Lgriot 08:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- Je suis impressionné par ton Français: probablement meilleur que le mien! Je vais faire un peu de travail sur le livre wikibooks:Kapampangan dans les mois qui viennent, je te ferai savoir quand il aura une taille raisonnable. Peut-être pourras-tu vérifier que je n'ai pas écrit de non-sens. Lgriot 17:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Italian
[edit]Ciao Christopher, sono Olando, sono italiano, parlo molto poco inglese, puoi aiutarmi con la pagina utente e con la wiki inglese. Capisci? Rispondimi --Olando 10:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Self-identification with ethnic group
[edit]Chris, I understand that self-identification with a particular ethnicity is important in determining whether a person’s article is to be placed under categories such as “Filipino-Americans” or “German-Filipinos”. This means that if an nth-generation German immigrant, who happens to be prominent enough to warrant an article in WP, does not identify with his German heritage (as has been quite common in the Philippines), he should not be placed under the “German-Filipinos” category.
However, what if his son—also well-known and with his own WP article—were to, unlike his father, identify himself firmly with his German heritage? Is the son to be placed under the “German-Filipinos” category while the father not? (The same goes with the Chinese-Filipino who no longer identifies himself with or has disowned his family’s Chinese heritage.) Of course this is all mostly hypothetical, but what if? —Lagalag 14:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- I know of no German-Filipino community either, and most of the Filipinos of significant German ancestry I personally know do not even speak German. However, many of them identify themselves individually as German-Filipino, or have consciously come to do so. Though we can’t force people to change their minds, this leads me to ask: is this wrong? That is, is it necessary for a wider N-Filipino community to exist before one can truly consider himself N-Filipino? —Lagalag 11:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- How these people can identify themselves as German-Filipinos, despite there (to my knowledge) being no organized German-Filipino associations, I cannot say. Perhaps it is identification as, rather than with. A lot of people do that, perhaps even in your country.
- On Filipinos with multiple ancestries, I agree, it does get kind of ridiculous to refer to oneself as “X-Y-Z-A-Filipino”, or to even refer to other people as such (let alone create such categories for them), as was done it the case of Batista’s WP article, where at one point he was described as “Greek-Filipino-American” (or “Filipino-Greek-American”).
- As for Spanish-Filipinos, I’ve been thinking about it, and I don’t think they necessarily have strong ties with one another, or that they form a community by themselves. The way I see it, all Filipino whites and mestizos regard themselves as members of one informal (but well-established) community, regardless of whether they’re Spanish, Italian, German, American, or whatever. I think it has more to do with having a shared mindest or worldview based on common experience (not necessarily experienced together) than with being wealthy, given that the Chinese are not regarded as part of this community, who anyway have an exclusive community of their own. —Lagalag 07:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Let's vote for Mariano Trias
[edit]Hey there Christopher Sundita! I would like to ask for your vote for the article of Mariano Trias in Wikipedia's Article Creation and Improvement Drive.
I believe that this article still needs a bit of clean-up and expansion. I hope you would vote for the article in this link.
Thanks a lot!!! ---- Kevin Ray 10:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Arnaiz and Aboitiz
[edit]Come to think of it, I based it on Arnaiz’s physical characteristics and his surname. I could have been mistaken after all. Either way, I’m removing him from the category.
As for the Aboitizes, they were described as a Basque family in the Basque diaspora article. —Lagalag 04:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Please don't delete the "Euromalays" article
[edit]Why is my article "Euromalays" subjected to deletion? Did I write anything bias or offensive? Why is it subjected to such harsh treatment? I tried to put as much reference as I can. I just wanted to know why.
Hello
[edit]Hi Chris, I was led by links and links to your websites, and back here at wiki. Well, the reason I am messaging you is that I am trying to track an essay "Filipino modes of knowing" by Jaime Polo. Just checking if you have access to it, or knows how to access it. Please let me know or direct me. Thanks. --Pinay06 06:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- Correction: correct title is Critiquing Filipino modes of knowing by Jaime B. Polo.--Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 09:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
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Request for deletion of the category "American-Filipinos" and article of the same name
[edit]Good day, Chris. Through user Lagalag, it came to my knowledge that the article "American-Filipinos" and the category of the same name are being put up for deletion. As such, I sent the following reply to Lagalag citing, to the best of my abilities, the reasons why it doesn't deserve to be deleted:
- Lagalag, before you make any motion to request the deletion of the category "American-Filipinos" and the article of the same name, please give me valid reasons as to why they need to be deleted. Otherwise, I don't see any reason to permit such action.
- As we all know, Filipino-Americans, or American citizens with one or both parents who is/are Filipino/s by ethnic origin, do exist in vast numbers in the United States and even elsewhere in the world. But so do American-Filipinos, or Filipino citizens with one or both parents who is/are American/s by ethnic origin. They also exist in reality and in fact number quite significantly here in the Philippines and even elsewhere in the world as well.
- Honestly, I myself wouldn't personally create an article or category or edit an article if I know very well if a subject or subjects concerned do not exist in reality. I have already read Wikipedia's terms and conditions and have personally made a vow to abide by it at all times. Creating the above category and making the necessary article editions are just some of my own little ways of making a significant contribution to human thought through proper education and information, and I do not in any way intend to harm anyone through misinformation by using this website. And if in any way I did misinform anyone though any erroneous or inappropriate contributions I made to this website, I hereby offer my sincerest apologies for my actions. I do understand and appreciate your concerns about my creation and editing of some articles and categories here, but I do hope you would also be able to understand and appreciate whatever contributions I have brought to this wonderful website for the benefit of all. Thank you very much.
After receiving my letter to him/her, Lagalag then sent me the following reply:
- Hi. I can appreciate your perspective, having inferred from your response that you live in the Philippines and as such may be very much aware of how things are on the ground. However, please know that it was Chris S. who initiated the motion, for reasons he has specified on the CfD page, and not I. I only thought it proper to inform you, being the creator of the category. Best regards.
I have already read in the CfD section of this website the reasons you stated why you want the article/category "American-Filipinos" to be deleted from this website altogether. Just because there seems to be no consensus as to the existence of a particular term (even though it does perfectly makes sense) means to say that the term itself doesn't even have the right to exist at all. It's comparable to denying the existence of a particular word in the English language just because it is not in common usage by the general populace (e.g. such rarely used English words as abecedarian and funambulist). If you would order the deletion of the term above from the Wikipedia database, it would also be then proper to have all the other articles and categories of the same nature to be deleted here altogether as well to be fair to all the peoples of the world (e.g. Filipino-Americans, German-Americans, Italian-Argentines, etc.).
As I have already stated above, I have already read Wikipedia's terms and conditions and have personally made a vow to abide by it at all times. This means to say that I would never, ever attempt to submit any information here which I have no solid evidence of to prove its factual existence or vandalize this website for no reason other than pure malice. I do hope that my explanation above should clearly define the meaning of the term American-Filipino for everybody's information and personal understanding. Thank you.
P.S. I have read in your biography that you are also of Filipino heritage. I myself am personally very proud of my Filipino heritage and would do anything, even in my own little way, to enrich everyone's factual knowledge of the Philippines and the wonders, pains and joys of being a true-blooded Filipino. --Pinoy Pride 15:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Locator maps for Philippine Tarsier and Chocolate Hills
[edit]Hi! I just saw that you made the Cebuano distribution map. I am wondering if you can extend the same assistance to the above articles. Please let me know. --Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 09:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- It has been quite a while since we've been looking for "experts" on these kinds of things.--Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 09:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe I can also interest you in looking into these articles? --Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 09:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- The Eskaya just went through a major overhaul, and IMHO, the present form is all inclusive of all existing information on the cultural minority. The Eskayan will have a major revision soon, pending additional resources we are getting in our hands. The current Eskayan is mostly from The Philippine Leaf, and has posed more controversy more than anything...--Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 15:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I will ask around re the DVD copy. I watched it both on big screen in Manila (perteng gamaya ra jud sa tawo) and also on DVD (just between us, pirated lang so dili klaro and medyo hanap2 kaayo) which has been passed around. I will check and get back to you on this. (BTW, do you get in touch with the Filipino community in WA, i.e., Vic Pineda, etc.?)--Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 15:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Chris, basin di ko ka access sa wiki kay mo out of town mi, maayong Pasko ug bulahang bag-ong tuig na lang kanimo! --Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 01:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Season's Greetings!
[edit]Enjoy this and this --Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 05:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Indonesia collaboration
[edit]Hi there. This fortnight's Indonesia Collaboration is > > > Indonesian language < < <. Please contribute! Please nominate for the next collab here. What about choosing one the shorter Indonesia stubs this time? kind regards Merbabu 15:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Mediation
[edit]Can I ask for your services in mediation between me and Pmgomez? He seems to ignore consensus and doesn't respond in a rightful manner, saying things such as "fun" or "See for yourself." Also, he doesn't seem to relent on replacing [[:Template:Infobox Philippine High School with Template:Infobox Secondary School despite efforts of explanation, and asking for his opinions (in which he'll respond with "fun," again). Hope you'll help. --Howard the Duck 07:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
- Where's the discussion taking place? Tambayan? --Chris S. 08:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Eskaya images
[edit]These are pictures of the Eskaya and their writings. Do you think we can link this to the article? I read somewhere that blogs are not reliable. Is that case-to-case or across the board? Please advice. --Pinay (talk•email) 18:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Cris, the owner of the blog has helped me with the Eskaya article. He will upload the pics in commons once he gets permission from the NCIP or National Commission on Indigenous Peoples...The Eskayan article should give you a little idea on the language, but like I previously said, it still has to be overhauled. As of now, it is based mainly on Hector's The Philippine Leaf. I will check and ask permission if I can provide you with the pdf files of the language so you can take a look at it and maybe help with the Eskayan article? I am no linguist, so it is kinda hard for me...--Pinay (talk•email) 19:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Exact words under. --Pinay (talk•email) 20:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Let me know when you got them all right...----Pinay (talk•email) 22:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hi! Just read your Salita blog. Great blog on Eskaya Chris! It's linked to Eskayan if you don't mind. I still haven't heard from Perez, so the link to his blog will wait, unless you think it is okey. --Pinay (talk•email) 02:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, got your email. Sent you Perez permission re the PDF files. Sure, Chris, go ahead and write the new entry. Your point is very valid. As the papers say, there are many theories. And yours is one of them. Message me when you are done so I can read it, too. --Pinay (talk•email) 02:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hi! Just read your Salita blog. Great blog on Eskaya Chris! It's linked to Eskayan if you don't mind. I still haven't heard from Perez, so the link to his blog will wait, unless you think it is okey. --Pinay (talk•email) 02:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Let me know when you got them all right...----Pinay (talk•email) 22:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Exact words under. --Pinay (talk•email) 20:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Greetings!
[edit]--Pinay (talk•email) 02:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Filipino people
[edit]Hi. Yes I somewhat agree on what your talking about. Maybe you could show me some good pics/examples of what should be in the collage? Because I kind of don't like the one that we have on now, the pictures are unproportionate and it looks dirty and sad.
Coojah 00:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hello again. Is this any better? Coojah 01:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)