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<center>Except in unambiguous cases, I always contact the creator of pages that I have deleted. However, I prefer handwritten notes to templates so sometimes it takes me a little bit to get it written out. If your page has been deleted and you want to know why, wait a few minutes and you will hear from me soon!<br /> |
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Hi - I think Hopiakuta is asking to have a phone consultation - several of his comments have obliquely talked about that, and I think that's what he's referring to when he points to your sig - the "talk to me" part. I saw him saying something similar somewhere else, and I'm finally adding it up. It's all very bizarre. I don't have the time, nor the needed background, to sort through his technical issues, but I wonder if someone might be able to step up for this. He has something to say - it's just not getting to us. Nice to meet you, by the way. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 22:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC) |
Hi - I think Hopiakuta is asking to have a phone consultation - several of his comments have obliquely talked about that, and I think that's what he's referring to when he points to your sig - the "talk to me" part. I saw him saying something similar somewhere else, and I'm finally adding it up. It's all very bizarre. I don't have the time, nor the needed background, to sort through his technical issues, but I wonder if someone might be able to step up for this. He has something to say - it's just not getting to us. Nice to meet you, by the way. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 22:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:Hi, it's nice to meet you too. I would agree that he is asking for a phone conversation... but I'm young and not all that well spoken, and I don't feel comfortable with talking to someone I don't know over the phone. Add that to the fact that I don't really feel qualified. I have experience w/ autistic and developmentally disabled people but this is, well it's very different. Parts of it do seem autistic, the problem with taking things out of context is almost aspergers-like... but I'm not getting that vibe otherwise. I just don't think I could do it justice, but I don't really know anyone who could. Maybe someone at the accessibility project? It seems that the person he connected with the most is Graham, but he seems to have stopped paying attention to the page. Maybe if we brought this back to his attention he could lend some ideas. Frankly, I'm at a loss, but I don't want to give up on this guy yet. |
:Hi, it's nice to meet you too. I would agree that he is asking for a phone conversation... but I'm young and not all that well spoken, and I don't feel comfortable with talking to someone I don't know over the phone. Add that to the fact that I don't really feel qualified. I have experience w/ autistic and developmentally disabled people but this is, well it's very different. Parts of it do seem autistic, the problem with taking things out of context is almost aspergers-like... but I'm not getting that vibe otherwise. I just don't think I could do it justice, but I don't really know anyone who could. Maybe someone at the accessibility project? It seems that the person he connected with the most is Graham, but he seems to have stopped paying attention to the page. Maybe if we brought this back to his attention he could lend some ideas. Frankly, I'm at a loss, but I don't want to give up on this guy yet. [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #0066FF">L'<span style="color: #00FF66">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #6633FF"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #CC3366"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #6633FF"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 05:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::That's how I feel too - you probably saw I brought this to AN/I initially because I just couldn't make any sense out of it and had a feeling it wasn't garden-variety vandalism, although it looked like it. I really am not the right person either - I don't have any experience and wouldn't know how to approach it - but there must be people here who can. Graham is a good idea - maybe he knows people at the accessibility project. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 06:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
::That's how I feel too - you probably saw I brought this to AN/I initially because I just couldn't make any sense out of it and had a feeling it wasn't garden-variety vandalism, although it looked like it. I really am not the right person either - I don't have any experience and wouldn't know how to approach it - but there must be people here who can. Graham is a good idea - maybe he knows people at the accessibility project. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 06:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Oooh - how come the color continued? Looks nice! <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 06:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
:::Oooh - how come the color continued? Looks nice! <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 06:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::It's pretty! Okay, I'm going to bop over to Graham's talk page and tell him there's a party going on over at L'Aquatique's talk page and he better get in on it before I get too goofy (as often happens at parties, particularly Christmas ones). I am kidding of course. I just finished a six page paper for a sociology class and I'm feeling QUITE goofy already! 'Nee way... |
::::It's pretty! Okay, I'm going to bop over to Graham's talk page and tell him there's a party going on over at L'Aquatique's talk page and he better get in on it before I get too goofy (as often happens at parties, particularly Christmas ones). I am kidding of course. I just finished a six page paper for a sociology class and I'm feeling QUITE goofy already! 'Nee way... [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #0066FF">L'<span style="color: #00FF66">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #6633FF">''<sup>talk</sup><span style="color: #CC3366"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #6633FF"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span></span>]] |
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:::::Done! I think I managed to keep the goofiness to a minimum. I try hard not to freak out people I am just meeting! : ) 'Kay, we'll see if he responds. <sub>(By the way, your signature matches this odd purpleness that has engulfed our conversation quite nicely.)</sub> |
:::::Done! I think I managed to keep the goofiness to a minimum. I try hard not to freak out people I am just meeting! : ) 'Kay, we'll see if he responds. <sub>(By the way, your signature matches this odd purpleness that has engulfed our conversation quite nicely.)</sub> [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #0066FF">L'<span style="color: #00FF66">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #6633FF">''<sup>talk</sup><span style="color: #CC3366"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #6633FF"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span></span>]] 06:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::(After edit conflict): Hmmm - I'm not sure how well I'd do at this - I'm a bit shy in voice communication and one of the reasons I like this place is that communication is all in text. I've been able to talk to other blind people who others considered really hard to talk to ... just saying "yep", "uh-huh", and so on did the trick as well as providing some good advice. But I'm not sure how I'd go with Hopiakuta ... he/she seems very talkative. The only person from [[Wikipedia:accessibility]] who I think might be able to do this is [[User:Rick Block]]. [[User:Theresa knott]] is a teacher assistant at a school who I find always has a knack of explaining things well - perhaps some of the editors at [[Talk:Autism]] maybe? I know people in RL who are good at that sort of thing but don't edit here... I wouldn't give the duty to any of them otherwise they probably wouldn't be my friends. In summary I could do it, but I'd prefer someone who is more quallified in working with developmentally disabled people. I have this page on my watchlist so reply here to keep the conversation in one place. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]''' |
::::::(After edit conflict): Hmmm - I'm not sure how well I'd do at this - I'm a bit shy in voice communication and one of the reasons I like this place is that communication is all in text. I've been able to talk to other blind people who others considered really hard to talk to ... just saying "yep", "uh-huh", and so on did the trick as well as providing some good advice. But I'm not sure how I'd go with Hopiakuta ... he/she seems very talkative. The only person from [[Wikipedia:accessibility]] who I think might be able to do this is [[User:Rick Block]]. [[User:Theresa knott]] is a teacher assistant at a school who I find always has a knack of explaining things well - perhaps some of the editors at [[Talk:Autism]] maybe? I know people in RL who are good at that sort of thing but don't edit here... I wouldn't give the duty to any of them otherwise they probably wouldn't be my friends. In summary I could do it, but I'd prefer someone who is more quallified in working with developmentally disabled people. I have this page on my watchlist so reply here to keep the conversation in one place. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color:green;">87</span>]] 06:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::Holy cow, that was ''fast''. Superhero fast... hey you're not a superhero are you? That would be cool. I could tell people I met a superhero on Wikipedia! But alas... they would never believe me! Anyway; I hope that you have not misinterpreted my original message- in no way am I asking you to telephone him yourself! I would not ask you to do something I wouldn't do- and I know how you feel. I'm horrible at telephone conversations... I stutter all over the place and can never think of the right thing to say! (until an hour or so afterward, that is) I am much better at typing out my thoughts. Anyway, I was just hoping you might have some insight that we are missing, since he seemed to react in more a positive manner to you than others. It's late where I am and I'm just up working on this and writing to blow off steam, so I'll try to get in touch with Rick tomorrow morning and try to get his advice on the subject. Thanks for the quick reply! |
:::::::Holy cow, that was ''fast''. Superhero fast... hey you're not a superhero are you? That would be cool. I could tell people I met a superhero on Wikipedia! But alas... they would never believe me! Anyway; I hope that you have not misinterpreted my original message- in no way am I asking you to telephone him yourself! I would not ask you to do something I wouldn't do- and I know how you feel. I'm horrible at telephone conversations... I stutter all over the place and can never think of the right thing to say! (until an hour or so afterward, that is) I am much better at typing out my thoughts. Anyway, I was just hoping you might have some insight that we are missing, since he seemed to react in more a positive manner to you than others. It's late where I am and I'm just up working on this and writing to blow off steam, so I'll try to get in touch with Rick tomorrow morning and try to get his advice on the subject. Thanks for the quick reply! [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 07:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::::LOL no I was browsing [[WP:ANI]] and followed a link ... then I found I had new messages. I'd love to be a superhero ... 'twould be cool to be able to fly around. Anyways, as a last idea, have a look at my advice about a similar situation at [[User talk:SandyGeorgia/arch19 #AnnieTigerChucky]] - I was probably a bit pesamistic in that message but it is true, unless someone reaches out to him and teaches him about Wikipedia, he will eventually be banned. I don't want that to happen. And I always think of a comeback far too late - what in French is called [[L'esprit de l'escalier]] (stairway wit) - I wish there was a concise English term for that. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]''' |
::::::::LOL no I was browsing [[WP:ANI]] and followed a link ... then I found I had new messages. I'd love to be a superhero ... 'twould be cool to be able to fly around. Anyways, as a last idea, have a look at my advice about a similar situation at [[User talk:SandyGeorgia/arch19 #AnnieTigerChucky]] - I was probably a bit pesamistic in that message but it is true, unless someone reaches out to him and teaches him about Wikipedia, he will eventually be banned. I don't want that to happen. And I always think of a comeback far too late - what in French is called [[L'esprit de l'escalier]] (stairway wit) - I wish there was a concise English term for that. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color:green;">87</span>]] 07:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::::::Yeah, flying would definitely rock muchly. However, I think I'd prefer to be able to breathe underwater. Still, being a superhero would be scary. I don't think I have to guts to go fighting evildoers... I have trouble enough on vandal patrol! Then again, you can't move as fast underwater, so any epic battles would be pretty boring. Hee hee... 'Nee way, back to the subject at hand. I am not sure about this- I haven't been able to decipher a lot from his admittedly cryptic talk page (can't imagine what that page must ''sound'' like... maybe a very poorly tuned orchestra!) but I think he actually was banned at one point for a short time. Perhaps as an administrator you could confirm this? Frankly, while I see how it could work, I think that he may just react with the "handicappist, racist, etc" line. I'm afraid if we tried that we might push him away too far. Hmmm... By the way- love that phrase! It does seem to capture the sentiment perfectly, doesn't it? ''Je pense que les français comprendent l'idée de langue plus, plus mieux que nous...'' : ) |
::::::::::Yeah, flying would definitely rock muchly. However, I think I'd prefer to be able to breathe underwater. Still, being a superhero would be scary. I don't think I have to guts to go fighting evildoers... I have trouble enough on vandal patrol! Then again, you can't move as fast underwater, so any epic battles would be pretty boring. Hee hee... 'Nee way, back to the subject at hand. I am not sure about this- I haven't been able to decipher a lot from his admittedly cryptic talk page (can't imagine what that page must ''sound'' like... maybe a very poorly tuned orchestra!) but I think he actually was banned at one point for a short time. Perhaps as an administrator you could confirm this? Frankly, while I see how it could work, I think that he may just react with the "handicappist, racist, etc" line. I'm afraid if we tried that we might push him away too far. Hmmm... By the way- love that phrase! It does seem to capture the sentiment perfectly, doesn't it? ''Je pense que les français comprendent l'idée de langue plus, plus mieux que nous...'' : ) [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 07:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::This is his [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Hopiakuta block log], which is accessible by everyone - it shows he was blocked for 24 hours and then unblocked. A link to a user's block log can be found at the top of their contributions, next to the talk page link; admins also get a block button. A block is not the same thing as a ban ... a ban is something given by the arbitration committee or by the whole community - see the [[WP:BAN|banning policy]]. I don't actually know any French - I learnt that phrase from [[Chuck Palahniuk]]'s short story "[[Haunted (novel)#"Guts"|Guts]]", which is, um, interesting ... let's just say that the ability to breathe underwater would not have helped the main character at all to get out of his messy predicament! '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]''' |
:::::::::::This is his [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Hopiakuta block log], which is accessible by everyone - it shows he was blocked for 24 hours and then unblocked. A link to a user's block log can be found at the top of their contributions, next to the talk page link; admins also get a block button. A block is not the same thing as a ban ... a ban is something given by the arbitration committee or by the whole community - see the [[WP:BAN|banning policy]]. I don't actually know any French - I learnt that phrase from [[Chuck Palahniuk]]'s short story "[[Haunted (novel)#"Guts"|Guts]]", which is, um, interesting ... let's just say that the ability to breathe underwater would not have helped the main character at all to get out of his messy predicament! '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color:green;">87</span>]] 08:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Hmm... It says he was blocked at around ten then unblocked at 16:00... that's only six hours, unless I'm reading it wrong. (which is completely possible- the whole 24 hour clock screws with my brain) Plus it happened almost a year ago. Looks like this guy's been a Wikipedian longer than me! Nevertheless, it seems like if he was going to learn from a ''block'' he would have learned his lesson a year ago. A ban on the other hand... I don't know. I'm not sure he would understand. Many editors have already asked him to "knock it off", making it formal probably isn't going to change things. The idea of a ban, in and of itself, isn't very concrete and I think that we need to be very clear with him or else more misunderstandings are likely to ensue. On the less serious side of this conversation, I've decided that in addition to being able to hold my breath under water and fly, I want to have a little usb port installed in my brain. Need to learn about Geological Oceanography? Easy! I just plug in this flash drive and BAM! Instant expertise! The practical applications are endless!! |
Hmm... It says he was blocked at around ten then unblocked at 16:00... that's only six hours, unless I'm reading it wrong. (which is completely possible- the whole 24 hour clock screws with my brain) Plus it happened almost a year ago. Looks like this guy's been a Wikipedian longer than me! Nevertheless, it seems like if he was going to learn from a ''block'' he would have learned his lesson a year ago. A ban on the other hand... I don't know. I'm not sure he would understand. Many editors have already asked him to "knock it off", making it formal probably isn't going to change things. The idea of a ban, in and of itself, isn't very concrete and I think that we need to be very clear with him or else more misunderstandings are likely to ensue. On the less serious side of this conversation, I've decided that in addition to being able to hold my breath under water and fly, I want to have a little usb port installed in my brain. Need to learn about Geological Oceanography? Easy! I just plug in this flash drive and BAM! Instant expertise! The practical applications are endless!! [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 08:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:Yup he was blocked for only six hours then unblocked by the same admin. I think the problem is that everyone has been kinda afraid to deal with him ... and to be honest I don't blame them. If he is banned he will probably start creating [[WP:SOCK|sockpuppets]] - but they will be easily recognisable because of his distinct writing style and mannerisms. I'd love a USB port in my brain ... you could find out so much info so quickly. I would only like it if only *I* could decide what gets plugged in there ... I wouldn't like someone walking by and randomly plugging a [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=115&num=1 USB vacuum cleaner] into my brain. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]''' |
:Yup he was blocked for only six hours then unblocked by the same admin. I think the problem is that everyone has been kinda afraid to deal with him ... and to be honest I don't blame them. If he is banned he will probably start creating [[WP:SOCK|sockpuppets]] - but they will be easily recognisable because of his distinct writing style and mannerisms. I'd love a USB port in my brain ... you could find out so much info so quickly. I would only like it if only *I* could decide what gets plugged in there ... I wouldn't like someone walking by and randomly plugging a [http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=115&num=1 USB vacuum cleaner] into my brain. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color:green;">87</span>]] 09:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::Yeah, I agree. I'm not afraid of him, but I'm a little intimidated. I'm a writer and I'm used to what I write making sense to people. He obviously isn't getting what I'm trying to tell him, and that really... I don't know what to word is. Frustrates me, I guess. Maybe that's why I don't want to give up on him. It irks me that there are so many idiots out there that will destroy without a though something other people have spent so much time working on, but here's someone who seems to have good faith, and some good ideas (if you can read past all the weirdness, he has a very dry with an is almost... poetic) and we cannot get him to understand. *Sigh*. The problem is, he will take any block or ban as an insult. Hmmm... Tvoz was talking earlier about him writing down everything that he wants to contribute in a subpage and then having that be translated into usable text by some volunteer. That's actually not a bad idea, but I'm not sure how I'd communicate that to him. Plus, we'd have to find someone to do it. |
::Yeah, I agree. I'm not afraid of him, but I'm a little intimidated. I'm a writer and I'm used to what I write making sense to people. He obviously isn't getting what I'm trying to tell him, and that really... I don't know what to word is. Frustrates me, I guess. Maybe that's why I don't want to give up on him. It irks me that there are so many idiots out there that will destroy without a though something other people have spent so much time working on, but here's someone who seems to have good faith, and some good ideas (if you can read past all the weirdness, he has a very dry with an is almost... poetic) and we cannot get him to understand. *Sigh*. The problem is, he will take any block or ban as an insult. Hmmm... Tvoz was talking earlier about him writing down everything that he wants to contribute in a subpage and then having that be translated into usable text by some volunteer. That's actually not a bad idea, but I'm not sure how I'd communicate that to him. Plus, we'd have to find someone to do it. |
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::Vacuum cleaner usb ports. Who knew? I cannot help wondering who sits at their desk all day and thinks these things up. Nevertheless, if someone did walk by and plug a vacuum into your head, you could just yank it out and...[http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/86b8/ retaliate]...hee hee... This reminds me of when I was a kid, I programmed my computer to "scream in pain" (I just recorded myself screaming) everytime someone unplugged something from it. Ahh, the memories! |
::Vacuum cleaner usb ports. Who knew? I cannot help wondering who sits at their desk all day and thinks these things up. Nevertheless, if someone did walk by and plug a vacuum into your head, you could just yank it out and...[http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/86b8/ retaliate]...hee hee... This reminds me of when I was a kid, I programmed my computer to "scream in pain" (I just recorded myself screaming) everytime someone unplugged something from it. Ahh, the memories! [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 18:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Hmmm - look at his [http://eng.anarchopedia.org/User:Hopiakuta his userpage on Anarchopedia] where he seems to make a little more sense. I suspect he is autistic because of his perseveration on minor things - like the number of characters in his screen name. He seems to be unwilling to use the phone to talk to anyone outside the US - and I, personally, wouldn't call if I had to pay for it because the cost of international calls in Aussieland is ridiculous. Unless one of us could Skype him or something ... wasn't he using an ancient computer though? Hmmm ... on one level he makes no sense at all but on another he makes perfect sense in his own world, if you know what I mean. And lol at the USB missile launcher! Weapon of mass-distraction indeed ... '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]''' |
:::Hmmm - look at his [http://eng.anarchopedia.org/User:Hopiakuta his userpage on Anarchopedia] where he seems to make a little more sense. I suspect he is autistic because of his perseveration on minor things - like the number of characters in his screen name. He seems to be unwilling to use the phone to talk to anyone outside the US - and I, personally, wouldn't call if I had to pay for it because the cost of international calls in Aussieland is ridiculous. Unless one of us could Skype him or something ... wasn't he using an ancient computer though? Hmmm ... on one level he makes no sense at all but on another he makes perfect sense in his own world, if you know what I mean. And lol at the USB missile launcher! Weapon of mass-distraction indeed ... '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color:green;">87</span>]] 04:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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I've read through some of his posts and nearly all of them could be considered disruptive. His account history goes back to June 2006 (which is a continuation of earlier postings from an IP address). He seems to be the same user at http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User:hopiakuta, and may not be fully comprehending the difference between wikipedia and anarchopedia. He's been tolerated here quite a long time, despite being nearly obviously disruptive. I don't have any particularly good suggestions. I've seen much less disruptive folks end up banned. He seems to at least think he has a disability of some kind, but I don't have much of clue what it might be. Harsh though it may sound, if he can't communicate through writing this might not be the best place for him. |
I've read through some of his posts and nearly all of them could be considered disruptive. His account history goes back to June 2006 (which is a continuation of earlier postings from an IP address). He seems to be the same user at http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User:hopiakuta, and may not be fully comprehending the difference between wikipedia and anarchopedia. He's been tolerated here quite a long time, despite being nearly obviously disruptive. I don't have any particularly good suggestions. I've seen much less disruptive folks end up banned. He seems to at least think he has a disability of some kind, but I don't have much of clue what it might be. Harsh though it may sound, if he can't communicate through writing this might not be the best place for him. |
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BTW - can you fix your sig? Each "start font" (font) needs a matching "close font" (/font). This is why the font color continues after your sig. -- [[user:Rick Block|Rick Block]] <small>([[user talk:Rick Block|talk]])</small> 05:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
BTW - can you fix your sig? Each "start font" (font) needs a matching "close font" (/font). This is why the font color continues after your sig. -- [[user:Rick Block|Rick Block]] <small>([[user talk:Rick Block|talk]])</small> 05:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:Fixed. That's never been a problem before... Anyway, I'm disappointed to hear your response, but unfortunately I have to admit that you are probably right. Both of my parents are autism specialists and I spent my childhood dealing with this stuff. I guess I was just pushing for a victory here because they are so rare with this disease. |
:Fixed. That's never been a problem before... Anyway, I'm disappointed to hear your response, but unfortunately I have to admit that you are probably right. Both of my parents are autism specialists and I spent my childhood dealing with this stuff. I guess I was just pushing for a victory here because they are so rare with this disease. |
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:I do think it's interesting that he seems so much more coherant at Anarchopedia. I don't have any good explanations for this. Perhaps it is just a better environment for him and we should encourage him to remain there instead? |
:I do think it's interesting that he seems so much more coherant at Anarchopedia. I don't have any good explanations for this. Perhaps it is just a better environment for him and we should encourage him to remain there instead? |
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:As for weapons of mass <s>destruction</s> distraction, I know that I would be distracted all day by that! I'd be sitting here, twiddling my thumbs and ''considering'' working... then someone would walk by I would bomb the daylights out of them! The good news is, if they were carrying something I could vacuum any messes up ASAP! : ) |
:As for weapons of mass <s>destruction</s> distraction, I know that I would be distracted all day by that! I'd be sitting here, twiddling my thumbs and ''considering'' working... then someone would walk by I would bomb the daylights out of them! The good news is, if they were carrying something I could vacuum any messes up ASAP! : ) [[User:L'Aquatique|''' ''<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span></span>'' ''']] [[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"></span><sup>to</sup><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 17:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::It seems a shame, because it would appear that disruption may not be his intent, and he has made positive contributions, if you can sort through the maze. I do think it might work in a partnering arrangement, but I don't know why anyone would volunteer for such a task. From a practical standpoint, do we just sit back and put up with it? Mentoring might be an answer - at least a mentor (or adopt-a-user, whatever it's called) might talk to him by phone and maybe get some insight into what the problem is, and perhaps recommend that this isn't the best place for him to get satisfaction from his work. This may indeed not be the best place for him, but are we going to just wait until someone blocks him for disruption? Doesn't feel right to me, but I don't have any answers either. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 19:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
::It seems a shame, because it would appear that disruption may not be his intent, and he has made positive contributions, if you can sort through the maze. I do think it might work in a partnering arrangement, but I don't know why anyone would volunteer for such a task. From a practical standpoint, do we just sit back and put up with it? Mentoring might be an answer - at least a mentor (or adopt-a-user, whatever it's called) might talk to him by phone and maybe get some insight into what the problem is, and perhaps recommend that this isn't the best place for him to get satisfaction from his work. This may indeed not be the best place for him, but are we going to just wait until someone blocks him for disruption? Doesn't feel right to me, but I don't have any answers either. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 19:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Well, I suppose a next step could be to contact the folks over at Adopt a User and see if we could find someone with experience in these situations. There are a lot of mentors out there, I'd bet there's a least one who would be willing to take it on. ''' '' |
:::Well, I suppose a next step could be to contact the folks over at Adopt a User and see if we could find someone with experience in these situations. There are a lot of mentors out there, I'd bet there's a least one who would be willing to take it on. ''' ''[[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span>]]'' '''[[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 19:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::I wish I was able to contribute more here than I really can. I do note that we do have two editors, [[User:Smartyshoe]] and [[User:Gameguider]], who have both expressed interest in a proposed Autism project and who both use the {{tl|User aspie}}. One of them, or maybe one of the other editors who use that template [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:User_Asperger here] might be able to help. I would have no objections to trying maybe to do some work on this editor's contributions, but am more than a bit awkward on the phone myself. By the way, any way to bring back the violet print above? I wish I saw that color a lot more often around here. [[User:Warlordjohncarter|John Carter]] 20:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
::::I wish I was able to contribute more here than I really can. I do note that we do have two editors, [[User:Smartyshoe]] and [[User:Gameguider]], who have both expressed interest in a proposed Autism project and who both use the {{tl|User aspie}}. One of them, or maybe one of the other editors who use that template [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:User_Asperger here] might be able to help. I would have no objections to trying maybe to do some work on this editor's contributions, but am more than a bit awkward on the phone myself. By the way, any way to bring back the violet print above? I wish I saw that color a lot more often around here. [[User:Warlordjohncarter|John Carter]] 20:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Okay, perhaps we could create some sort of network of people who could sift through his contributions and make them more "wikipropriate" (<- new word!). Of course we'd need to run this by him first or he'll see it as being followed around by people intent on changing his edits! I'm going to pop over to Smartyshoe and Gameguiders' talk pages and ask them to join this conversation and lend some first hand experience and advice. ''' '' |
:::::Okay, perhaps we could create some sort of network of people who could sift through his contributions and make them more "wikipropriate" (<- new word!). Of course we'd need to run this by him first or he'll see it as being followed around by people intent on changing his edits! I'm going to pop over to Smartyshoe and Gameguiders' talk pages and ask them to join this conversation and lend some first hand experience and advice. ''' ''[[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span>]]'' '''[[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span>]] 21:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::Please see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Accessibility]]. [[User:Warlordjohncarter|John Carter]] 14:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC) |
::::::Please see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Accessibility]]. [[User:Warlordjohncarter|John Carter]] 14:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::Hmmm... too bad you are the only person on the list. : ( ''' '' |
:::::::Hmmm... too bad you are the only person on the list. : ( ''' ''[[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span>]]'' '''[[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span></span>]] 20:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::::Hey, I only added that section at 14:50 today. It'll take awhile for people to even know it's there. [[User:Warlordjohncarter|John Carter]] 20:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC) |
::::::::Hey, I only added that section at 14:50 today. It'll take awhile for people to even know it's there. [[User:Warlordjohncarter|John Carter]] 20:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Oh, I didn't know that! Hee hee... I'll have to go add my name. ''' '' |
:::::::::Oh, I didn't know that! Hee hee... I'll have to go add my name. ''' ''[[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span>]]'' '''[[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span></span>]] 21:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::: I don't feel comfortable talking to strangers on the phone. Sorry. [[User:Smartyllama|Smartyllama]] 23:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC) (formerly smartyshoe) |
:::::: I don't feel comfortable talking to strangers on the phone. Sorry. [[User:Smartyllama|Smartyllama]] 23:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC) (formerly smartyshoe) |
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:::::::I know how you feel! But would you be willing to perhaps examine the case and lend some advice? Also, you may be interested in [[User:Warlordjohncarter/WikiProject Accessibility]]... Thanks, |
:::::::I know how you feel! But would you be willing to perhaps examine the case and lend some advice? Also, you may be interested in [[User:Warlordjohncarter/WikiProject Accessibility]]... Thanks,''' ''[[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span>]]'' '''[[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span></span>]] 00:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::: Sure, I will look into it. [[User:Smartyllama|Smartyllama]] 00:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC) |
::::::: Sure, I will look into it. [[User:Smartyllama|Smartyllama]] 00:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::::Good deal. Welcome to the Wikiproject! ''' '' |
::::::::Good deal. Welcome to the Wikiproject! ''' ''[[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #000099">L'</span><span style="color: #006600">Aquatique</span></span>]]'' '''[[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia">''<span style="color: #330066"><sup>talk</sup></span><span style="color: #660000"><sup>to</sup></span><span style="color: #330066"><sup>me</sup></span>''</span></span>]] 00:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Hi - I just saw your "talkback" was put on my user page again on Oct 9 - I saw it once that day - didn't see that it went back up (not sure why you put it back actually) - would probably be more useful, at least for me, if you put it on User Talk instead, so the "new message" announcement would be delivered. My watchlist is too huge and I'd prefer not having things put on my user page - I don't always notice them. Anyway - I did see the discussion continuing here, and wish you all well with the project - this is not my expertise, but I saw an editor who seemed to be struggling, and tried to make some sense out of it. Unfortunately it seems there are no real resources for this type of thing, and there continues to be a communication problem with this user. It may be beyond our ability to address - if anyone has any contacts at the Foundation, perhaps they would be interested in this. I'm overbooked as it is and can't do much more than an occasional interpretation if I happen to see one of his edits being misunderstood. I'll keep him on my watchlist, but can't promise more than that. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 05:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
:::::::::Hi - I just saw your "talkback" was put on my user page again on Oct 9 - I saw it once that day - didn't see that it went back up (not sure why you put it back actually) - would probably be more useful, at least for me, if you put it on User Talk instead, so the "new message" announcement would be delivered. My watchlist is too huge and I'd prefer not having things put on my user page - I don't always notice them. Anyway - I did see the discussion continuing here, and wish you all well with the project - this is not my expertise, but I saw an editor who seemed to be struggling, and tried to make some sense out of it. Unfortunately it seems there are no real resources for this type of thing, and there continues to be a communication problem with this user. It may be beyond our ability to address - if anyone has any contacts at the Foundation, perhaps they would be interested in this. I'm overbooked as it is and can't do much more than an occasional interpretation if I happen to see one of his edits being misunderstood. I'll keep him on my watchlist, but can't promise more than that. <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 05:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
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(unindent)Whoa, sorry I didn't notice your post until now. God, I'm such a space cadet at times. 'Nee way , thanks for your help and input. I understand being overbooked! Been there, done that, keep doing it. |
(unindent)Whoa, sorry I didn't notice your post until now. God, I'm such a space cadet at times. 'Nee way , thanks for your help and input. I understand being overbooked! Been there, done that, keep doing it. '''--(''[[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="font-family: georgia"><span style="color: #FF0000">L'</span><span style="color: #FF6600">Aquatique</span></span>]]''''': '''Bringing <sub><span style="color: #FF0000">chaos</span></sub> & <sup><span style="color: #FF6600">general mayhem</span></sup> to the Wiki for [[User:L'Aquatique/Anniversary|''One Year'']]!)''' 08:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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:Absolutely no problem!! All best <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 16:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
:Absolutely no problem!! All best <strong>[[User:Tvoz|Tvoz]] </strong>|<small>[[User talk:Tvoz|talk]]</small> 16:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Public reactions to the Giffords assassination attempt|now closed]]; hope my rationale wasn't too TL:DR (or, y'know, wrong). [[User:Ironholds|Ironholds]] ([[User talk:Ironholds|talk]]) 23:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) |
[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Public reactions to the Giffords assassination attempt|now closed]]; hope my rationale wasn't too TL:DR (or, y'know, wrong). [[User:Ironholds|Ironholds]] ([[User talk:Ironholds|talk]]) 23:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:Tee hee... well, it might have been edging in on tl:dr- in most cases you wouldn't need much of a rationale or even necessarily one at all. However, I think it was relatively reasonable for you to put in what you did as it was a contentious AfD. No matter what you do in these cases, people are going to argue with you about it- I wouldn't be surprised if they already were! However, any uninvolved admin would almost certainly agree with your decision so don't worry about it. Good work being bold! [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
:Tee hee... well, it might have been edging in on tl:dr- in most cases you wouldn't need much of a rationale or even necessarily one at all. However, I think it was relatively reasonable for you to put in what you did as it was a contentious AfD. No matter what you do in these cases, people are going to argue with you about it- I wouldn't be surprised if they already were! However, any uninvolved admin would almost certainly agree with your decision so don't worry about it. Good work being bold! [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 20:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eastwood (rapper)]] == |
== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eastwood (rapper)]] == |
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Hey I know it was a long time ago but could you userfy the most relavent reversion of [[Eastwood (rapper)]]? To [[User:STATicVerseatide/Eastwood (rapper)]] |
Hey I know it was a long time ago but could you userfy the most relavent reversion of [[Eastwood (rapper)]]? To [[User:STATicVerseatide/Eastwood (rapper)]] '''[[User:STATicVerseatide|<span style="color:#BA181F;">STATic</span>]] [[User talk:STATicVerseatide|<span style="vertical-align:super; color:#BA181F; font-size:smaller;">message me!</span>]]''' 19:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} - I did a restore/move to preserve all of the revisions- so if you're looking for a specific one feel free to revert it to the revision you like. However if you do that, please remove the categories (you can write them like this <pre>[[:Category:loremipsum]]</pre> to keep the categories there for reference but not actually place the article in the category). Enjoy! [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
:{{done}} - I did a restore/move to preserve all of the revisions- so if you're looking for a specific one feel free to revert it to the revision you like. However if you do that, please remove the categories (you can write them like this <pre>[[:Category:loremipsum]]</pre> to keep the categories there for reference but not actually place the article in the category). Enjoy! [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 20:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC) |
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== Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts == |
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Regarding your warning, for the record, [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts#MMA_record_table_problems|I did start a discussion previously to changing it since January 11, 2011.]] After 5 days, I went ahead and changed it per [[WP:BB]] since January 16, 2011. It was only on January 23, 2011 that '''Paralympiakos''' reverted the changes without discussing them before doing it, which by the way [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts&diff=409813482&oldid=409597801 he did again]. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 22:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC) |
Regarding your warning, for the record, [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts#MMA_record_table_problems|I did start a discussion previously to changing it since January 11, 2011.]] After 5 days, I went ahead and changed it per [[WP:BB]] since January 16, 2011. It was only on January 23, 2011 that '''Paralympiakos''' reverted the changes without discussing them before doing it, which by the way [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts&diff=409813482&oldid=409597801 he did again]. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 22:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:I just noticed that, it was sort of a ways up the talk page so I didn't see it before. I warned [[User:Paralympiakos]] about edit warring, so if the issue continues to persist please let me know and I can intervene further. As far as I can tell from your discussion, this is a MOS issue, yes? [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
:I just noticed that, it was sort of a ways up the talk page so I didn't see it before. I warned [[User:Paralympiakos]] about edit warring, so if the issue continues to persist please let me know and I can intervene further. As far as I can tell from your discussion, this is a MOS issue, yes? [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 22:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC) |
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::Correct, mainly with capitalization ([[MOS:CAPS]]) and to a lesser degree with flag icons ([[MOS:ICON]]). Since it's an style issue, most editors appear to simply ignore the discussion and the Manual of Styles. Any suggestion to get more editors involved in this discussion? [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 23:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC) |
::Correct, mainly with capitalization ([[MOS:CAPS]]) and to a lesser degree with flag icons ([[MOS:ICON]]). Since it's an style issue, most editors appear to simply ignore the discussion and the Manual of Styles. Any suggestion to get more editors involved in this discussion? [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 23:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC) |
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::By the way, I mentioned the revert that '''Paralympiakos''' did because I didn't notice the warning in his talk page since it was removed. I thought you had forgotten to put it or that it was placed before the revert. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 23:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC) |
::By the way, I mentioned the revert that '''Paralympiakos''' did because I didn't notice the warning in his talk page since it was removed. I thought you had forgotten to put it or that it was placed before the revert. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 23:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:::MOS issues are tricky mostly because the manual of style is a guideline, not policy and thus not generally well-enforced. Indeed, [[WP:IAR]] tells us we should use common sense rather than strictly sticking to guidelines so acceptance of MOS rules tends to vary quite a bit. A good argument against using icons (that's not mentioned in the MOS) is that loading images of any kind increases server load, and can be annoying for people with slow connections, text-based browsers, etc. I don't really like using images at all unless they're really necessary, and this is a place where they are most certainly '''not''' necessary. That said, I wouldn't (and probably no other admin would) place a block or page protection for manual of style violations unless there was a 3RR violation, so your best bet to solve this is to seek out mediation or more opinions and convince the other party to stop reverting. |
:::MOS issues are tricky mostly because the manual of style is a guideline, not policy and thus not generally well-enforced. Indeed, [[WP:IAR]] tells us we should use common sense rather than strictly sticking to guidelines so acceptance of MOS rules tends to vary quite a bit. A good argument against using icons (that's not mentioned in the MOS) is that loading images of any kind increases server load, and can be annoying for people with slow connections, text-based browsers, etc. I don't really like using images at all unless they're really necessary, and this is a place where they are most certainly '''not''' necessary. That said, I wouldn't (and probably no other admin would) place a block or page protection for manual of style violations unless there was a 3RR violation, so your best bet to solve this is to seek out mediation or more opinions and convince the other party to stop reverting. |
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:::In any case, you have a few options for getting more minds involved. I would start with a post on the [[WP:MOS|MOS]] talk page. We also have a [[WP:3|third opinion]] mechanism that brings an uninvolved editor into the arena, but that is essentially the purpose I am serving for you here, so you may not want to go down that route. You could also try opening a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]], but try the MOS talk page first because this seems like a pretty open and shut dealio. Hope that helps, let me know if there's anything else I can assist with. [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
:::In any case, you have a few options for getting more minds involved. I would start with a post on the [[WP:MOS|MOS]] talk page. We also have a [[WP:3|third opinion]] mechanism that brings an uninvolved editor into the arena, but that is essentially the purpose I am serving for you here, so you may not want to go down that route. You could also try opening a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]], but try the MOS talk page first because this seems like a pretty open and shut dealio. Hope that helps, let me know if there's anything else I can assist with. [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 00:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC) |
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::::It's been already 3 days since I requested help at [[WT:MOS]] and there have been no responses so far. Even '''Paralympiakos''' has commented nothing on the issue, only leaving me a message in my talk page to stop correcting capitalization because it looks ugly. So far, only [[User:LOL|LOL]] has added something to the discussion. I still want to revert the changes made by '''Paralympiakos''' since he did not give solid arguments for doing it and I firmly believe that the way it is right now, [[WP:MMA]] is contradicting [[WP:MOS]], [[MOS:CAPS]] and [[MOS:ICON]] and wasting bandwidth unnecessarily, but I believe that if I make changes he will simply revert them back without discussing in the talk page of the project. What do you suggest that I do now? Do I wait, do I request help at [[MOS:CAPS]] and [[MOS:ICON]] or something else? [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 16:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC) |
::::It's been already 3 days since I requested help at [[WT:MOS]] and there have been no responses so far. Even '''Paralympiakos''' has commented nothing on the issue, only leaving me a message in my talk page to stop correcting capitalization because it looks ugly. So far, only [[User:LOL|LOL]] has added something to the discussion. I still want to revert the changes made by '''Paralympiakos''' since he did not give solid arguments for doing it and I firmly believe that the way it is right now, [[WP:MMA]] is contradicting [[WP:MOS]], [[MOS:CAPS]] and [[MOS:ICON]] and wasting bandwidth unnecessarily, but I believe that if I make changes he will simply revert them back without discussing in the talk page of the project. What do you suggest that I do now? Do I wait, do I request help at [[MOS:CAPS]] and [[MOS:ICON]] or something else? [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 16:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::I would make the change one more time, and if he reverts it open a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] to bring more eyes to the subject. Also, make sure to mention [[WP:MOS|the MOS]] in your edit summary and keep it really low-key. If you open the RfC, avoid any sort of blame placing and word it something like, "there's a dispute between several editors over interpretation of the Manual of Style." [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
:::::I would make the change one more time, and if he reverts it open a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] to bring more eyes to the subject. Also, make sure to mention [[WP:MOS|the MOS]] in your edit summary and keep it really low-key. If you open the RfC, avoid any sort of blame placing and word it something like, "there's a dispute between several editors over interpretation of the Manual of Style." [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 16:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::I have followed your advice. I have once again [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts&action=historysubmit&diff=410676899&oldid=409855759 changed the text of that section]. Now I'll wait to see if it's reverted again. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 01:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC) |
::::::I have followed your advice. I have once again [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts&action=historysubmit&diff=410676899&oldid=409855759 changed the text of that section]. Now I'll wait to see if it's reverted again. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 01:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::I have a request. Could you comment on [[WT:MMA#MMA record table problems]] in response to '''Paralympiakos'''' most recent comment? I'm afraid that it might seem too personal if only I responded to him, since he, in my opinion, gave no valid reason and seems to simply want to ignore every guideline that he doesn't like. Please read his comments and let me know what you think. I honestly don't see what was the point of them other than expressing that he doesn't like those guidelines and that they should be ignored. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 19:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
:::::::I have a request. Could you comment on [[WT:MMA#MMA record table problems]] in response to '''Paralympiakos'''' most recent comment? I'm afraid that it might seem too personal if only I responded to him, since he, in my opinion, gave no valid reason and seems to simply want to ignore every guideline that he doesn't like. Please read his comments and let me know what you think. I honestly don't see what was the point of them other than expressing that he doesn't like those guidelines and that they should be ignored. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 19:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
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(unindent) I commented. I am concerned about the level of hostility going on, but as a now semi-involved admin I can't really do anything about it per se. If he reverts you again, I would recommend opening up a request for comment. [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
(unindent) I commented. I am concerned about the level of hostility going on, but as a now semi-involved admin I can't really do anything about it per se. If he reverts you again, I would recommend opening up a request for comment. [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 00:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. Truth be told, I'm also concerned about that, particularly because it's over stylistic issues. I'll be watching it carefully to open a request for comment when needed. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 01:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC) |
:Thanks. Truth be told, I'm also concerned about that, particularly because it's over stylistic issues. I'll be watching it carefully to open a request for comment when needed. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 01:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::Well, for right now let's just keep an eye on it. It seems like a simple aesthetic issue like this could be resolved without too much fuss, but perhaps I'm just naive. [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
::Well, for right now let's just keep an eye on it. It seems like a simple aesthetic issue like this could be resolved without too much fuss, but perhaps I'm just naive. [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 04:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC) |
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'''Paralympiakos''' has now been making changes to the biographical articles directly, calling the reverts "normal convention" and plainly ignoring the manual of styles. Check these diffs: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cain_Velasquez&curid=17440144&diff=415539824&oldid=415504853 Cain Velasquez], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shane_Carwin&curid=17440322&diff=415536339&oldid=415452897 Shane Carwin], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stefan_Struve&curid=20838268&diff=415535687&oldid=415438286 Stefan Struve]. Obviously, he's been doing this without consensus and in several more articles. Could you give me a suggestion on how to proceed here? Do I simply revert his changes? I believe that if I start reverting his changes it might start an edit war on several articles and since they are style edits, it could go on for a very long time. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 19:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC) |
'''Paralympiakos''' has now been making changes to the biographical articles directly, calling the reverts "normal convention" and plainly ignoring the manual of styles. Check these diffs: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cain_Velasquez&curid=17440144&diff=415539824&oldid=415504853 Cain Velasquez], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shane_Carwin&curid=17440322&diff=415536339&oldid=415452897 Shane Carwin], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stefan_Struve&curid=20838268&diff=415535687&oldid=415438286 Stefan Struve]. Obviously, he's been doing this without consensus and in several more articles. Could you give me a suggestion on how to proceed here? Do I simply revert his changes? I believe that if I start reverting his changes it might start an edit war on several articles and since they are style edits, it could go on for a very long time. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 19:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:Sorry for my slow response, I've been really busy. I recommend opening a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] at this point, if you haven't done so already. [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
:Sorry for my slow response, I've been really busy. I recommend opening a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] at this point, if you haven't done so already. [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 17:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::Alright, I requested for comment at [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Request board]]. In the mean time, should I refrain from reverting those edits? Because there are many more now. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 16:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC) |
::Alright, I requested for comment at [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Request board]]. In the mean time, should I refrain from reverting those edits? Because there are many more now. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 16:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC) |
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As I expected an edit war is ongoing. Just check [[Special:Contributions/Paralympiakos]]. I will not revert his edits within the next 24 hours to avoid going against Wikipedia editing policies, but I will revert them back and I'm sure '''Paralympiakos''' will do the same. Since these are style edits I really doubt that any administrator will consider them vandalism, which essentially means that we will keep on doing this. What could I do to avoid this useless waste of time of restoring he correct stylization every time this situation happens? [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 22:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
As I expected an edit war is ongoing. Just check [[Special:Contributions/Paralympiakos]]. I will not revert his edits within the next 24 hours to avoid going against Wikipedia editing policies, but I will revert them back and I'm sure '''Paralympiakos''' will do the same. Since these are style edits I really doubt that any administrator will consider them vandalism, which essentially means that we will keep on doing this. What could I do to avoid this useless waste of time of restoring he correct stylization every time this situation happens? [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 22:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::You could.....I dunno...not do them? It's clear that only you and LOL want to stick rigidly to the MOS "rules". Many many other people do not like them and have reverted. You're the one causing these problems, Jfgslo. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #73C2FB">[[User:Paralympiakos|< |
:::You could.....I dunno...not do them? It's clear that only you and LOL want to stick rigidly to the MOS "rules". Many many other people do not like them and have reverted. You're the one causing these problems, Jfgslo. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #73C2FB">[[User:Paralympiakos|<span style="color: #120A8F">Paralympiakos</span>]]</SPAN> <span style="font-size:x-small">[[User_Talk:Paralympiakos|(talk)]]</span> 22:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::If you look at the discussion on [[WT:MMA]] you are the only one who has voiced an opinion against this style and several people have voiced their opinion for it. --[[User:Tuoppi gm|Tuoppi gm]] ([[User talk:Tuoppi gm|talk]]) 01:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC) |
::::If you look at the discussion on [[WT:MMA]] you are the only one who has voiced an opinion against this style and several people have voiced their opinion for it. --[[User:Tuoppi gm|Tuoppi gm]] ([[User talk:Tuoppi gm|talk]]) 01:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Jfgslo, do not edit war if at all possible, doing so will render you just as culpable as Paralympiakos. Since an [[WP:RFC|rfc]] was not successful in solving this, you will perhaps wish to open a [[WP:RFCC|request for comment (user conduct)]] which instead of discussing the nature of the edits, discusses the user them self. I am far too involved to feel comfortable using my tools to put a halt to this conflict, but something like that would hopefully draw another admin's attention. You could also try [[WP:AN/I|an/i]] if you're feeling brave. [[User:L'Aquatique|< |
:::::Jfgslo, do not edit war if at all possible, doing so will render you just as culpable as Paralympiakos. Since an [[WP:RFC|rfc]] was not successful in solving this, you will perhaps wish to open a [[WP:RFCC|request for comment (user conduct)]] which instead of discussing the nature of the edits, discusses the user them self. I am far too involved to feel comfortable using my tools to put a halt to this conflict, but something like that would hopefully draw another admin's attention. You could also try [[WP:AN/I|an/i]] if you're feeling brave. [[User:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #303030">'''l'aquatique'''</span></span>]][[User talk:L'Aquatique|<span style="color: #7FC11C">[talk]</span>]] 16:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::I will follow your advice and will not edit war. As you suggested, I have opened [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Paralympiakos]]. You are welcome to comment on it. Hopefully, another administrator will take notice this time. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 19:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC) |
::::::I will follow your advice and will not edit war. As you suggested, I have opened [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Paralympiakos]]. You are welcome to comment on it. Hopefully, another administrator will take notice this time. [[User:Jfgslo|Jfgslo]] ([[User talk:Jfgslo|talk]]) 19:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi - I think Hopiakuta is asking to have a phone consultation - several of his comments have obliquely talked about that, and I think that's what he's referring to when he points to your sig - the "talk to me" part. I saw him saying something similar somewhere else, and I'm finally adding it up. It's all very bizarre. I don't have the time, nor the needed background, to sort through his technical issues, but I wonder if someone might be able to step up for this. He has something to say - it's just not getting to us. Nice to meet you, by the way. Tvoz |talk 22:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... It says he was blocked at around ten then unblocked at 16:00... that's only six hours, unless I'm reading it wrong. (which is completely possible- the whole 24 hour clock screws with my brain) Plus it happened almost a year ago. Looks like this guy's been a Wikipedian longer than me! Nevertheless, it seems like if he was going to learn from a block he would have learned his lesson a year ago. A ban on the other hand... I don't know. I'm not sure he would understand. Many editors have already asked him to "knock it off", making it formal probably isn't going to change things. The idea of a ban, in and of itself, isn't very concrete and I think that we need to be very clear with him or else more misunderstandings are likely to ensue. On the less serious side of this conversation, I've decided that in addition to being able to hold my breath under water and fly, I want to have a little usb port installed in my brain. Need to learn about Geological Oceanography? Easy! I just plug in this flash drive and BAM! Instant expertise! The practical applications are endless!! L'Aquatique talktome 08:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I've read through some of his posts and nearly all of them could be considered disruptive. His account history goes back to June 2006 (which is a continuation of earlier postings from an IP address). He seems to be the same user at http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User:hopiakuta, and may not be fully comprehending the difference between wikipedia and anarchopedia. He's been tolerated here quite a long time, despite being nearly obviously disruptive. I don't have any particularly good suggestions. I've seen much less disruptive folks end up banned. He seems to at least think he has a disability of some kind, but I don't have much of clue what it might be. Harsh though it may sound, if he can't communicate through writing this might not be the best place for him. BTW - can you fix your sig? Each "start font" (font) needs a matching "close font" (/font). This is why the font color continues after your sig. -- Rick Block (talk) 05:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
(unindent)Whoa, sorry I didn't notice your post until now. God, I'm such a space cadet at times. 'Nee way , thanks for your help and input. I understand being overbooked! Been there, done that, keep doing it. --(L'Aquatique: Bringing chaos & general mayhem to the Wiki for One Year!) 08:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]now closed; hope my rationale wasn't too TL:DR (or, y'know, wrong). Ironholds (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Tee hee... well, it might have been edging in on tl:dr- in most cases you wouldn't need much of a rationale or even necessarily one at all. However, I think it was relatively reasonable for you to put in what you did as it was a contentious AfD. No matter what you do in these cases, people are going to argue with you about it- I wouldn't be surprised if they already were! However, any uninvolved admin would almost certainly agree with your decision so don't worry about it. Good work being bold! l'aquatique[talk] 20:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey I know it was a long time ago but could you userfy the most relavent reversion of Eastwood (rapper)? To User:STATicVerseatide/Eastwood (rapper) STATic message me! 19:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Done - I did a restore/move to preserve all of the revisions- so if you're looking for a specific one feel free to revert it to the revision you like. However if you do that, please remove the categories (you can write them like this
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[edit]Regarding your warning, for the record, I did start a discussion previously to changing it since January 11, 2011. After 5 days, I went ahead and changed it per WP:BB since January 16, 2011. It was only on January 23, 2011 that Paralympiakos reverted the changes without discussing them before doing it, which by the way he did again. Jfgslo (talk) 22:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I just noticed that, it was sort of a ways up the talk page so I didn't see it before. I warned User:Paralympiakos about edit warring, so if the issue continues to persist please let me know and I can intervene further. As far as I can tell from your discussion, this is a MOS issue, yes? l'aquatique[talk] 22:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- Correct, mainly with capitalization (MOS:CAPS) and to a lesser degree with flag icons (MOS:ICON). Since it's an style issue, most editors appear to simply ignore the discussion and the Manual of Styles. Any suggestion to get more editors involved in this discussion? Jfgslo (talk) 23:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- By the way, I mentioned the revert that Paralympiakos did because I didn't notice the warning in his talk page since it was removed. I thought you had forgotten to put it or that it was placed before the revert. Jfgslo (talk) 23:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- MOS issues are tricky mostly because the manual of style is a guideline, not policy and thus not generally well-enforced. Indeed, WP:IAR tells us we should use common sense rather than strictly sticking to guidelines so acceptance of MOS rules tends to vary quite a bit. A good argument against using icons (that's not mentioned in the MOS) is that loading images of any kind increases server load, and can be annoying for people with slow connections, text-based browsers, etc. I don't really like using images at all unless they're really necessary, and this is a place where they are most certainly not necessary. That said, I wouldn't (and probably no other admin would) place a block or page protection for manual of style violations unless there was a 3RR violation, so your best bet to solve this is to seek out mediation or more opinions and convince the other party to stop reverting.
- In any case, you have a few options for getting more minds involved. I would start with a post on the MOS talk page. We also have a third opinion mechanism that brings an uninvolved editor into the arena, but that is essentially the purpose I am serving for you here, so you may not want to go down that route. You could also try opening a request for comment, but try the MOS talk page first because this seems like a pretty open and shut dealio. Hope that helps, let me know if there's anything else I can assist with. l'aquatique[talk] 00:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's been already 3 days since I requested help at WT:MOS and there have been no responses so far. Even Paralympiakos has commented nothing on the issue, only leaving me a message in my talk page to stop correcting capitalization because it looks ugly. So far, only LOL has added something to the discussion. I still want to revert the changes made by Paralympiakos since he did not give solid arguments for doing it and I firmly believe that the way it is right now, WP:MMA is contradicting WP:MOS, MOS:CAPS and MOS:ICON and wasting bandwidth unnecessarily, but I believe that if I make changes he will simply revert them back without discussing in the talk page of the project. What do you suggest that I do now? Do I wait, do I request help at MOS:CAPS and MOS:ICON or something else? Jfgslo (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I would make the change one more time, and if he reverts it open a request for comment to bring more eyes to the subject. Also, make sure to mention the MOS in your edit summary and keep it really low-key. If you open the RfC, avoid any sort of blame placing and word it something like, "there's a dispute between several editors over interpretation of the Manual of Style." l'aquatique[talk] 16:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have followed your advice. I have once again changed the text of that section. Now I'll wait to see if it's reverted again. Jfgslo (talk) 01:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have a request. Could you comment on WT:MMA#MMA record table problems in response to Paralympiakos' most recent comment? I'm afraid that it might seem too personal if only I responded to him, since he, in my opinion, gave no valid reason and seems to simply want to ignore every guideline that he doesn't like. Please read his comments and let me know what you think. I honestly don't see what was the point of them other than expressing that he doesn't like those guidelines and that they should be ignored. Jfgslo (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have followed your advice. I have once again changed the text of that section. Now I'll wait to see if it's reverted again. Jfgslo (talk) 01:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I would make the change one more time, and if he reverts it open a request for comment to bring more eyes to the subject. Also, make sure to mention the MOS in your edit summary and keep it really low-key. If you open the RfC, avoid any sort of blame placing and word it something like, "there's a dispute between several editors over interpretation of the Manual of Style." l'aquatique[talk] 16:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's been already 3 days since I requested help at WT:MOS and there have been no responses so far. Even Paralympiakos has commented nothing on the issue, only leaving me a message in my talk page to stop correcting capitalization because it looks ugly. So far, only LOL has added something to the discussion. I still want to revert the changes made by Paralympiakos since he did not give solid arguments for doing it and I firmly believe that the way it is right now, WP:MMA is contradicting WP:MOS, MOS:CAPS and MOS:ICON and wasting bandwidth unnecessarily, but I believe that if I make changes he will simply revert them back without discussing in the talk page of the project. What do you suggest that I do now? Do I wait, do I request help at MOS:CAPS and MOS:ICON or something else? Jfgslo (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
(unindent) I commented. I am concerned about the level of hostility going on, but as a now semi-involved admin I can't really do anything about it per se. If he reverts you again, I would recommend opening up a request for comment. l'aquatique[talk] 00:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Truth be told, I'm also concerned about that, particularly because it's over stylistic issues. I'll be watching it carefully to open a request for comment when needed. Jfgslo (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, for right now let's just keep an eye on it. It seems like a simple aesthetic issue like this could be resolved without too much fuss, but perhaps I'm just naive. l'aquatique[talk] 04:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Paralympiakos has now been making changes to the biographical articles directly, calling the reverts "normal convention" and plainly ignoring the manual of styles. Check these diffs: Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Stefan Struve. Obviously, he's been doing this without consensus and in several more articles. Could you give me a suggestion on how to proceed here? Do I simply revert his changes? I believe that if I start reverting his changes it might start an edit war on several articles and since they are style edits, it could go on for a very long time. Jfgslo (talk) 19:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for my slow response, I've been really busy. I recommend opening a request for comment at this point, if you haven't done so already. l'aquatique[talk] 17:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, I requested for comment at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Request board. In the mean time, should I refrain from reverting those edits? Because there are many more now. Jfgslo (talk) 16:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
As I expected an edit war is ongoing. Just check Special:Contributions/Paralympiakos. I will not revert his edits within the next 24 hours to avoid going against Wikipedia editing policies, but I will revert them back and I'm sure Paralympiakos will do the same. Since these are style edits I really doubt that any administrator will consider them vandalism, which essentially means that we will keep on doing this. What could I do to avoid this useless waste of time of restoring he correct stylization every time this situation happens? Jfgslo (talk) 22:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- You could.....I dunno...not do them? It's clear that only you and LOL want to stick rigidly to the MOS "rules". Many many other people do not like them and have reverted. You're the one causing these problems, Jfgslo. Paralympiakos (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- If you look at the discussion on WT:MMA you are the only one who has voiced an opinion against this style and several people have voiced their opinion for it. --Tuoppi gm (talk) 01:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- You could.....I dunno...not do them? It's clear that only you and LOL want to stick rigidly to the MOS "rules". Many many other people do not like them and have reverted. You're the one causing these problems, Jfgslo. Paralympiakos (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- Jfgslo, do not edit war if at all possible, doing so will render you just as culpable as Paralympiakos. Since an rfc was not successful in solving this, you will perhaps wish to open a request for comment (user conduct) which instead of discussing the nature of the edits, discusses the user them self. I am far too involved to feel comfortable using my tools to put a halt to this conflict, but something like that would hopefully draw another admin's attention. You could also try an/i if you're feeling brave. l'aquatique[talk] 16:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- I will follow your advice and will not edit war. As you suggested, I have opened Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Paralympiakos. You are welcome to comment on it. Hopefully, another administrator will take notice this time. Jfgslo (talk) 19:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
- Jfgslo, do not edit war if at all possible, doing so will render you just as culpable as Paralympiakos. Since an rfc was not successful in solving this, you will perhaps wish to open a request for comment (user conduct) which instead of discussing the nature of the edits, discusses the user them self. I am far too involved to feel comfortable using my tools to put a halt to this conflict, but something like that would hopefully draw another admin's attention. You could also try an/i if you're feeling brave. l'aquatique[talk] 16:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
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