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Terri Schiavo

You have the patience of a saint, my friend. You're an inspiration. I have a far lower frustration threshhold than you apparently do. Keep up the good work. --AStanhope 21:41, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, FuelWagon, for reformatting my Let's go sentence by sentence post. Given the size the talk page now is, that'll sure make any contributions easier for the users. Duckecho 16:36, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Ghost, that's a very generous way of saying this editor is a partisan hack. - LOL. Of course, but that's my style, my friend....If I give them enough rope, they'll save me the trouble of a hanging...--ghost 5 July 2005 14:54 (UTC)

Mediation

The request for mediation on the Terri Schiavo article is here.

I've been asked by ghost to step in as Mediator. How do you feel about that? And where (if anywhere) shall we discuss all this? -- Uncle Ed (talk) 23:02, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Please meet me at Talk:Terri Schiavo/Mediation. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 00:22, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

NCdave

RFC on NCdave

I have filed a request for comment on NCdave. You can visit the page by going here. I have left this message on your talk page since you have been involved in the dispute resolution process regarding his edits in the past. Mike H 11:31, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Editor comments on NCdave

I will now commence chuckling and knee-slapping Just wanted to let you know that I am officially appropriating the phrase "Whack-a-Mole logic game" for my own use, that is excellent. Been trying to think of a succint way to describe NCdave's style of debate for a while now.
Fox1 08:11, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

(And the "whack-a-mole logic game" is brilliant.)Mia-Cle 01:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

As you saw, friend NCdave is back and has put the NPOV tag on twice. Be on the lookout for more of the same. I'm concerned about taking it out a third time. Duckecho 01:06, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Also, I apparently I have a fan club. A W-a-M stalker is following me around and posting stuff addressed to me at other peoples' talk pages. I'm sure he'll do it here. I know you'll know how to handle it.

I have asked for disciplinary measures against NCDave on Talk:Terri Schiavo/Mediation#It's time to deal with the bully. I ask for your support.--ghost 19:49, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Mediator's Announcement

You are invited to participate in the Mediation regarding the Terry Schiavo article. Initial discussion is beginning at Talk:Terri Schiavo/Mediation. -- Uncle Ed (talk) 20:28, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Intelligent Design

I admit to my own POV on Intelligent Design (I'm neo-Pagan), so having another Wikipedian that I know telling me when I'm being stupid would be very helpful. I respect your work on all things Terri Schiavo, and hope I can enlist your help.--ghost 21:21, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

In the future, refrain from deleting my comments. --goethean ॐ 04:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

the New Yorker had an excellent piece on Intelligent Design a few weeks ago--I recommend it as a good read if you didn't catch it. (I actually haven't read the I.D. page on wikipedia though, so I don't know if it would be helpful.)--Mia-Cle 00:24, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear option

I'm sorry to say the usefulness of that article has decreased since the recent edits of User:Hbomb and User:Ed Poor (beginning around May 12). It is confusing, and it seems to intentionally obscure the basic facts of the maneuver. --CSTAR 20:08, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Apology accepted. I'll take a look at it. I found some good stuff on the reaction to "THE DEAL" made on Monday, and I'll add it at some point. Dave (talk) 04:46, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

The goal of my edits was not to water down Democratic criticisms but to present the same criticisms in a more clearly neutral point of view. I'm actually sympathetic to the Democratic position in this debate, but that position is stronger when the points made are clearly neutrally stating facts rather than coming across (when read by someone who favors the nuclear option) as attacks or accusations. I think the article as a whole is superb and have directed people who don't understand why anyone would oppose the nuclear option to read the article. I'm just trying to look for statements that would be perceived as possibly biased in their presentation and restate them to convey the same information in a way that doesn't raise red-flags.

I would be very happy to coordinate with you to find mutually acceptable wording for statements you feel have been watered down. I'll kick some proposed wording out for you-- would you prefer that it be here or on the Nuclear Option talk page? --Naltrexone (talk)

Fuel, double-checking before I jump in. Did you get my response? Is the invite still open, or should we discuss it further?--ghost 15:14, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

FW, "I'm goin in Maverick..."--ghost 18:35, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Goethean's opinion

Since you seem to have it all figured out over there, perhaps you should spend your time there too. FuelWagon 7 July 2005 18:04 (UTC)

I ignored your last invitation to leave Wikipedia, but I did see it. In response, I suggest that you look into the very basic principles of civility that the Wikipedia requires for its members. I think that you're an asshole too, but I decline to attack you personally. Perhaps you should consider a similar approach. --goethean ॐ 7 July 2005 18:11 (UTC)

A lot of stuff

moved to /block

Note

Fuel, I awarded you something I feel you deserve. In re the current block, I hope it's not permanent, and I also hope you don't take things too much to heart. This is only an online encyclopaedia and community, after all. All the best.~ Neuroscientist | T | C ? 06:21, July 13, 2005 (UTC) Oh, and dude. You gotta tone down the cussin. Lol.~ Neuroscientist | T | C ? 06:23, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. FuelWagon 06:34, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

One word of advice. To participate in a volunteer project, you have to be more concerned with making the project succeed, than you are about "being treated fairly". In my 3 1/2 years at Wikipedia, I've never been blocked.

When others disagree with my edits, I've argued, debated, made points, tried different formulations, etc. But I haven't attacked other users of this web site.

I have not been overly stubborn about versions of articles, because I have no particular axe to grind. All I care about is the neutrality of this encyclopedia. So, if an article presents a point of view, which I disagree with, in a favorable light, I don't care, as long as sufficient mention is made of other point of view.

The whole country (Amercia) was upset about Terry Schiavo's situation, and she's only one person. Did you know that there are millions of people who die each year from starvation and easily preventable diseases? Do you know how many people have been murdered by their own governments? I have the good fortune to have been born in a country whose government is literally "for the people" (in Abraham Lincoln's words) rather than for the benefit of the ruling class. And this government sponsored the creation of the Internet, which you and I are now using to communicate with each other and share our knowledge with the world.

I personally asked the programmers who created the MediaWiki software to give blocked users the ability to edit their own talk page, just so that a block wouldn't be so hard on them. Please use this time to tell the Administrators of this web site what contributions you plan to make to this encyclopedia. Uncle Ed 10:52, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

page lock

I went to a lot of effort to keep this page open for you, but you have not said anything about how you intend to help this project. You just continued making personal remarks about others. So I moved everything to the /block subpage and locked this page. Uncle Ed 20:33, July 13, 2005 (UTC)