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--Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 19:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you for updating the Maine House of Representatives template! I had begun working on it and then got distracted. Thanks for your hard work!--TM 11:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate that. Makes me wish the Legislature was a little smaller like some wanted the last session. :) Did the information seem correct(I might have missed a political party here or there or misspelled a name)? 331dot (talk) 12:24, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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Removed

[1] My bad...there was an edit conflict and I didn't think to look in a completely different section for the conflict. Sorry about that. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 16:00, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I too would like to apologize; my message was too harsh. No hard feelings. 331dot (talk) 16:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

injury, death, and destruction box

I didn't want to derail your valid point by commenting, but that's hilarious. The RFC for the main page redesign is coming up, maybe we can get together and do an IDDB proposal to balance the right hand column, after TAFI is added to the left. --IP98 (talk) 03:12, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad it was appreciated. Aside from RFC you'll need to fill me in on the meaning of the acronyms, though. 331dot (talk) 03:26, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. TAFI is "Todays Article for Improvement". There was a notice posted to WT:ITN because it's being scheduled for inclusion. IBBDR is "Injury Death and Destruction Box", which I think we could slot in under ITN and be a catch-all for those items. --IP98 (talk) 12:26, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

I still feel somewhat new here and am probably not totally familiar with everything; but if you are going to propose something like what I think you are I would be willing to be involved, even if only to provide support. 331dot (talk) 22:18, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

ITN for February 2013 nor'easter

--Spencer^T♦C 04:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

ITN Credit

--Jayron32 14:11, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Barbados election

Trust me, just ignore it. You'll get frustrated over nothing. You'll not get the last word, and your point will not be conceded. Just ask a different admin like Tariq or Spencer to collapse the discussion, and walk away. It's totally not worth it.

PS: I'm glad you're at ITN. You work on updating articles, your comments are logical and considered, and you're really polite. Even if we don't always agree on things.

Cheers --IP98 (talk) 21:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Just done, but I appreciate you suggesting it. I actually value not agreeing with everyone; if we all agreed on everything, I think Wikipedia would be finished by now and things would be pretty boring. I also appreciate your kind words about me- that's what I go for. I'm not sure I always succeed, but it is my goal. 331dot (talk) 21:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

ITN for Phil Ramone

--Spencer^T♦C 03:09, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Into Darkness

Let's discuss the matter in article discussion; more people are going to want in on that conversation. :) - Jack Sebastian (talk) 00:33, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

And the same to you, more or less

That was just bizarre and completely unnecessary. The sources were there to show the extent of the nomination. So I'll adapt what you said to me. Please do not disrupt Wikipedia to make a point. If you have issues with what gets nominated at ITN, participate in the discussion of the subjects that are nominated. Do not delete them. AGF. HUMAN. Oh, and read NOTPOINTy. It's people like you, who misquote and distort policies and guidelines, that I've had far too much of. Talk about needing a thick skin to edit. --86.40.105.31 (talk) 15:20, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

please don't erase my edits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=568261582&oldid=568261479 μηδείς (talk) 22:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

If I did erase your edit, it was purely inadvertent and unintentional, and I apologize. 331dot (talk) 22:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

The gov's page

I'm certainly not going to sit by and see the entire controversy section deleted. A read of any politician shows that Wikipedia does include controversies. I've worked on several other politicians and they all have controversy sections. The Elizabeth Warren article at one time had two screens full of it after she said that she was part Native American... After about five pages of archives we did get it pared back to one paragraph... Thanks for the good work you do! Gandydancer (talk) 00:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thanks for the great work you do to help inform the public about how their paid, elected officials are doing at their job. Gandydancer (talk) 01:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

ITN

331dot (talk) 16:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Unnao gold hunt

There are news sources in the article. But i don't know how to add it in ITN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.107.175.150 (talk) 10:27, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

You used only a portion of the ITN nomination template; if you use the whole one, there is a line for sources- simply post links to the sources in that line, like this [web address of source here (followed by) Name of organization] 331dot (talk) 18:39, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

closed RD Tom Foley

I am not an admin, but it doesn't take an admin to close a nomination if there's reason. Please don't take it as my stepping on you (I do think you're one of the better regulars there--not that that may mean much from me), and feel free to revert. In the future the template is:
Title
{{archive top|reason}}
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μηδείς (talk) 01:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I have no issue with you doing so; I was simply not sure if an admin was needed to do so. Thanks 331dot (talk) 01:55, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Well done!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	A Barnstar of Diplomacy for your efforts to close a nomination at ITN and thereby prevent its escalation into a bigger conflict. Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:30, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

2013 Chapramari Forest train accident

Check again.   — C M B J   08:06, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry

I'm higher then you ok I'm a duke — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duke of yolo (talk • contribs) 17:20, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

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I nominate 331dot for Editor of the Week because of their continuous and diligent efforts at "In the News" WP:ITN and "Todays Article for Improvement" WP:TAFI. While updating articles regarding the state of Maine and Gov Paul LePage and providing broad-based support across Wikipedia, Editor 331dot is always polite with comments that are logical and considered.

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• Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 11:34, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

• Your efforts are much appreciated. ```Buster Seven Talk 22:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Premature closure

I invite you to reopen item. If you are unwilling I am more than happy to proceed to more formal dispute resolution mechanisms. I am not prepared to allow you to arbitrarily close discussions on the basis that you do not approve of the proposal.

Sure, I've read your explanation of severe weather at the top of your talk page, but since you have edited the very page in question subsequent to my edit and chosen not to justify your actions that excuse seems moot. 31.185.225.175 (talk) 04:09, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

It is not an "excuse", it is a warning in anticipation of an issue(hence the "may" in my explanation). Fortunately so far it has not affected me as severely as others, but you will excuse me if I have larger problems than one IP user's unwarranted issues on a website. I will make a full comment over at ITNC but in short I cannot prevent you from doing what you feel is necessary or correct- so go ahead and do what you must. If you want to make a mountain out of a molehill, go ahead. 331dot (talk) 10:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Penobscot Narrows Bridge and Observatory

Hello! Your submission of Penobscot Narrows Bridge and Observatory at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

You might find this helpful for future nominations: Wikipedia:Did_you_know Rules. — Maile (talk) 16:18, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. 331dot (talk) 16:20, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

You got chocolate in my peanut butter

Where did my edit go? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=588696162&oldid=588696095

I have fixed it. Happy New Year. μηδείς (talk) 19:19, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry; purely inadvertent. 331dot (talk) 19:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Eusébio

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Please see WP:BDP, and do not re-add the information without including reliable sources at the same time. GiantSnowman 15:46, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

User:GiantSnowman; Not sure what that has to do with anything; I just didn't think the information needed to be removed while awaiting the source, unless you are alleging that someone made up the quotes from the officials listed. If it had been there for awhile, yeah sure, but it had been added in the last 24 hours. Pardon me. 331dot (talk) 15:49, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I take BLP/BDP very seriously - and you should as well. Either include the reference with the information/edit, or do not make the edit. Why is that so hard to understand? Repeatedly adding unreferenced information saying "I'm gonna verify it in the future, honest" is no good. GiantSnowman 15:51, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I did not "repeatedly" add anything, nor do I intend to; do not attribute actions to me that I did not do, please. I did not add the information in question, either. I take WP:AGF seriously, and you should, too. I assume that someone added the information and either simply forgot to add the source, or is out looking for it. They did not just make up the quotes from those officials, unless you know something that I don't. You should not take policies so seriously that you drive away editors. Give people a chance before undoing what they did, that's all I generally believe. 331dot (talk) 15:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

No, the violator here is Tibullus (talk · contribs), whose edit you re-added. It's hard to AGF when an editor (again, not you) constantly violates BDP/BLP. They have had plenty of time to add the references - all they need to do is click 'undo' of my edit and then add the references before saving, but they are incapable of doing so. I wonder why? Check the article history; I have made no further edits other than 'undoing' the re-addition of material which violates BDP/BLP. Undo me, add the references, then save. Simple. GiantSnowman 16:00, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Not everyone has the same thought processes that you or I might have, or uses WP in the same manner that your or I might do, rightly or wrongly. My suggestion is just to step back and let people work before getting into policy discussions with them, or to learn why they are doing what they are doing first. 331dot (talk) 16:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

This editor has been here since 2007. They should know better than that. They should not have the mindset of "make loads of unreferenced/unverified edits about a recently deceased person - edits which also mention other BLPs - and then add references at some unspecified time in the future." They should add references at the time they make the edit, or not make the edit at all. GiantSnowman 16:09, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I in no way am suggesting that one wait endlessly for a source to be added- but you could at least wait until it appeared the person was no longer editing. This person is stating that they have tried to add the information/sources and would have if not for your reversions. That's just common sense and we should be less wrapped up in policies and use a little more common sense. 331dot (talk) 16:15, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Never mind 331dot, this "administrator" obviously has something against me. You can see by the tone he used in my talkpage. Thank you 331dot for your backing but really there isn't much any of us can do when Wikipedia sponsors a lobby of administrators like GiantSnowman. I already send him the references to his talkpage since he was so eager NOT to let me add them in the article. The user is probably going to ignore it anyway. I bet if the article in question was about a white person, he'd have no problem with my edits... Tibullus (talk) 16:17, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

The "admin" in question just said I could add the references. Like I told you, he isn't going to add it himself. Very eager to revert my edits but not that much eager in helping the community... Tibullus (talk) 16:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I have not made any further edits or reversions for nearly 1 hour. The user has had plenty of opportunity to add the information back, complete with references, but that has not been done. Blaming me for that is simply a massive cop-out. GiantSnowman 16:46, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Trying to clean the mess you've made, eh boy? I'm not editing it because simply my work was not appreciated. And I'm not spending anymore time editing something just so you can delete it again for your own sick pleasure. You sure as hell are a big man on the internet. Tibullus (talk) 17:49, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

World record price for a banknote

Hi 331dot- New mainstream sources have been added (including ABC News) and a correction made (record price for any banknote, not just US), could you please have another look. Thanks-Godot13 (talk) 05:55, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Random

The removal of random words or phrases seems an unlikely couurse of action when I had referenced input. A better grasp of English needed here.