Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring

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This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule. See this guide for instructions on creating diffs for this report. If you see that a user may be about to violate the three-revert rule, consider warning them by placing {{subst:uw-3rr}} on their user talk page. You must notify any user you have reported. You may use {{subst:An3-notice}} ~~~~ to do so. You can subscribe to a web feed of this page in either RSS or Atom format. Additional notes When reporting a user here, your own behavior will also be scrutinized. Be sure you understand WP:REVERT and the definitions below first. The format and contents of a 3RR/1RR report are important, use the "Click here to create a new report" button below to have a report template with the necessary fields to work from. Possible alternatives to filing here are dispute resolution, or a request for page protection. Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed. Definition of edit warring Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring. Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR) An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions. Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.
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User:2605:a000:ffc0:d8:fdf2:3eb5:8751:7a62 reported by User:Hipal (Result: Semi)

Page: Scott Baio (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2605:a000:ffc0:d8:fdf2:3eb5:8751:7a62 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 14:15, 1 April 2022
2. 21:42, 23 March 2022
3. 21:11, 17 March 2022
4. 19:47, 17 March 2022
5. 18:35, 16 March 2022
6. 18:35, 16 March 2022
7. 03:36, 16 March 2022
8. 21:55, 15 March 2022

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 00:03, 18 March 2022

Relevant talk page discussions: Talk:Scott_Baio#Birth_year, Talk:Scott_Baio#He's_not_reliable_for_his_own_birth_year, Talk:Scott_Baio#How_to_properly_present_and_verify_his_date_of_birth

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [1]

Comments:

• Result: Semiprotected three months. Consider using WP:DRN to settle the unresolved items. EdJohnston (talk) 03:48, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

User:2A01:4C8:1560:CCC:1:1:462B:36A0 reported by User:Pavlov2 (Result: Blocks, Semi)

Page: Dyson (company) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 2A01:4C8:1560:CCC:1:1:462B:36A0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 18:10, 2 April 2022 (UTC) ""
2. 18:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC) ""
3. 18:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC) ""
4. 17:58, 2 April 2022 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 18:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Dyson (company)."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 18:14, 2 April 2022 (UTC) "/* Please stop edit war! */ new section"

Comments:

• Add Chawa618 to this as this is clearly an account created to continue the edit war. — Czello 18:45, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
• Chawa618 (at his talkpage) seems to be promising to continue edit warring, once page is unprotected. GoodDay (talk) 18:58, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
• It is a very complicated case, more than four IP users have engaged in these edit wars with +4 and -4 Pavlov2 (talk) 19:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
  • It's a very simple case. A person with an IP address that geolocates to the U.K. thinks that the article should say one thing, four other people, two with accounts, and two with IP addresses that locate to Singapore and Korea, think that the article should say another. And the article has cycled back and forth between the 2 states 12 times in 24 hours. The article has been protected and I've revoked the editing privileges of the account created specifically to further the edit war. The only question remaining is why, since there's a note in the wikitext, there is no talk page discussion of this point that could have been pointed to. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Hidden text#Inappropriate uses for hidden text. Uncle G (talk) 21:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

    Dyson as a company is British. Yes, operations of its "Global HQ" moved to another country in 2019 however its founders, registered offices and facilities remain in the UK.

    The fact that Wikipedia is stating Dyson as "Singaporean" is false. At least, it should be Anglo-Singaporean. Rather than one or the other.

    Please review this. Sola8273 (talk) 09:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

• Update Chawa618 and 2A01:4C8:1560:CCC:1:1:462B:36A0 left some disruptive messages on my talk page.[2] Not the worst but clearly WP:NOTHERE behaviour. — Czello 20:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Gary0987 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is clearly another sock based on this[3] and this[4] — Czello 22:07, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Add Sola8273 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) to the list of socks based on his recent disruptive edits. — Czello 13:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I filed a SPI against them. seemingly terrible if more sleepers become active Pavlov2 (talk) 15:03, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

More complex than before... Pavlov2 (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

• Result: Some blocks by other admins. User:Blablubbs has put an indef block on User:Sola8273. User:Uncle G has indefinitely blocked User:Chawa618. See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chawa618. User:Cullen328 put two weeks of semiprotection on Dyson (company). EdJohnston (talk) 01:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User:MarnetteD reported by User:Ficaia (Result: Protected)

Page: Lois Baxter (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: MarnetteD (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [diff] (1)
2. [diff] (2)
3. [diff] (3)
4. [diff] (4)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [5]

Comments:

• Page protected – 4 days. The original two-person war between MarnetteD and Ficaia has now widened out to four people. One group wants 'actor' and the other wants 'actress'. This needs consensus to decide. EdJohnston (talk) 01:41, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

• I'm not in any war, thanks. A discussion thread has been opened on the article Talk page. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User:MarnetteD reported by User:Ficaia (Result: )

Page: Susan Lynch (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: MarnetteD (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [6]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [diff] (1)
2. [diff] (2)
3. [diff] (3)
4. [diff] (4)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [7]

Comments: P.S. I know I've filled this out wrong. I'm not a technical person. But the recent page history demonstrates the issue.

User:JP7i1-u reported by User:Oknazevad (Result: LTA blocked)

Page: WPA World Eight-ball Championship (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: JP7i1-u (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [8]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [9]
2. [10]
3. [11]
4. [12]
5. [13]
6. [14]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [15]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Revival

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [16]

Comments:

I hate dragging people to the drama boards, but this one is particularly frustrating. With the recent announcement that this tournament is returning, I began an overhaul of the article, removing outdated material about the last abortive attempt to restart it (announced but ultimately not held in 2017), removing unsourced material purporting to describe the tournament format, and other general cleanup. I was immediately reverted with no explanation by an editor making what is supposedly their first ever edit. Every subsequent attempt to continue working on the article by myself and Dmoore5556 (who added an infobox) have been blanket reverted without discussion or justification. It's also pretty obvious there's socking going on here as well; in another pool-related item I added sourced mention of the Fargo Rate system used to rank pool players to Elo rating system (as Fargo Rate is a variant on an Elo rating), and lo and behold, it was reverted by someone making their first edit with a similar edit summary. Curiously suspicious. oknazevad (talk) 09:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Please be aware of the following:

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3

4

5

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Oknazevad is clearly having a joke when accusing me of "edit warring" when they know that: 1) they are solely responsible for my need to restore the encyclopedic information, ie. involved in the edit war themselves, 2) they started it when removing over 1k of perfectly sourced material without any discussion or consensus. It's pure POV pushing because something (and I don't know what) that did or didn't happen in 2017 makes them personally uncomfortable, and so they behave in this unreasonable manner. I believe the communkity should not tolerate this and Oknazevad should be topic banned from any subject relating to international sports as they clearly have no valid contribution to make. --JP7i1-u (talk) 12:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

And here we have another revert of another unrelated editor with a false accusation of StellarNerd being a sock of me. He's not. I've never edited Wikipedia using any other user name in my nearly 18 years here. Oh, and he's contribution stalked me over to Designated hitter, where I reverted some WP:SYNTH. My reversion was restored by another well established editor. oknazevad (talk) 00:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

And another revert here to re-add SYNTH that has been removed by multiple editors. oknazevad (talk) 00:14, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

And now a straight up attack page here created as a subpage of my user page, as well as talk page vandalism. oknazevad (talk) 00:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Now Oknazevad has just started whimpering with allegations not relevant to edit warring accusations. I can revert Oknazevd en masse if they are being honest with you. I have only reverted them where I have seen fit due to their poor contributions, such as removing a large chunk of sourced text on the rules of a game. --JP7i1-u (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

• LTA blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Scimernet reported by User:Loafiewa (Result: Blocked)

Page: .50 BMG (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (and various other ammunition articles)
User being reported: Scimernet (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted] [17] Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [18]
2. [19]
3. [20]
4. [21]
5. [22]
6. [23]
7. [24]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [25] (4th revert in 24 hours)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [26]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [27]

Comments:
Additionally Scimernet seems to be making the same changes universally to other ammunition articles - I only have three watched, but those have had the same changes applied to them. These changes have been reverted by other editors, only for Scimernet to reinsert, using the edit summary of "The unit of measure is Caliber not inches. Caliber is a unit "based" on inches; it is not designated as a measurement of inches. Refer to the definition of caliber. Caliber is expressed in hundredths or thousands of an inch depending on the number of digits. When referring to cartridges or bullets the units used are caliber. This would be expressed without any leading decimal. This is correct, it does not need consensus or collaboration this needs to be fixed on all Caliber pages" (my emphasis)

• .308 Winchester

1. [28]
2. [29]
3. [30]

• .45 ACP

1. [31]
2. [32]

• .44 Magnum

1. [33]
2. [34]

Ammunition is not my forte, but this widespread changing of articles without gaining consensus and going against article titles, needs addressing. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

• Blocked – 48 hours. User:Scimernet has been warring about ammunition calibers for months. They declare that consensus is not needed (as in the comment quoted above) and have never posted to an article talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 02:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User:142.105.159.178 reported by User:Wallnot (Result: No violation per WP:BLANKING)

Page: User talk:142.105.159.178 (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Template:142.105.159.178

Previous version reverted to: diff

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. diff
2. diff
3. diff
4. diff
5. diff
6. diff
7. diff

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: link

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: diff

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: diff

Comments:

Special:Contributions/142.105.159.178 has been editing warring across a number of pages, largely refusing to engage on articles’ talk pages. They’ve just broken WP:3RR by reverting four times a static IP template that had been placed on their talk page (the IP seems to be static based on the geo locate tool), with explanation and reference to the guideline at WP:UP. Though it’s not expressly against policy, and it hasn't been directed at me since I haven’t engaged with them much in their ~5mo edit history, I would add that their edit summaries are extremely patronizing (e.g., pay attention :)) and overall indicative of a bad attitude.

Note that, though the warning I linked concerned edit warring on an article talk page, not on the IP's talk page, the Thewolfchild subsequently warned the IP that they had violated 3RR on their own talk page and encouraged them to revert their last revert. The IP responded to that suggestion by reverting Thewolfchild again, and then reverting an additional message from Thewolfchild. diff

Note also that, though this is the only 3RR violation I observed, this IP has been edit warring/reverting without discussion across a number of other pages. I've included diffs below.

Guardians of the Galaxy (soundtrack) diff diff diff

First Lady of the United States diff diff diff

Where the IP does post on talk pages, they tend not to address the content issues at hand, instead making accusations of bad faith and ownership using the same patronizing tone as in their edit summaries. e.g., Buddy, you've got to let go. You started this article and you've been its primary editor, but you don't own it. You obviously think you do, but you don't. diff

UPDATE: the IP reverted the notice of edit warring report I left on their talk page, describing it as vandalism. Wallnot (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

• No violation Per WP:BLANKING, users are allowed to remove warnings from their own talk pages, however rudely they go about it, as long as they accept that it will be assumed they read them. They might actually have a case against you. And, yes, I agree the IP's behavior has not been exemplary. But maybe this is better handled at AN/I. Daniel Case (talk) 17:29, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

  The removal in question was of a template required to be placed on their page by the guideline at WP:UP, not a warning. Such templates are an explicit exception to WP:BLANKING: "For IP editors, templates and notes left to indicate other users share the same IP address" cannot be removed. I'm also not sure how they have a case against me; I've performed only two reverts on their talk page. Wallnot (talk) 17:40, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Wallnot: It may be a "user may not remove" but it does not follow from that that we are required to put it there in the first place. Especially when the user disputes that it's really a shared IP, and the editing history seems to back that claim up.

As for the reverts, I apologize, it seems like it was you and Wolf combined. Daniel Case (talk) 18:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Understood, thank you for explaining. Wallnot (talk) 18:18, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Ericwearvoon reported by User:Praxidicae (Result: Blocked)

Page: Eric Liddell (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Ericwearvoon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Consecutive edits made from 22:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC) to 22:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
   1. 22:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC) "reverted vandalism false allegation"
   2. 22:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC) ""
2. Consecutive edits made from 22:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC) to 22:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
   1. 22:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC) "reverted vandalism"
   2. 22:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC) ""
3. 21:57, 5 April 2022 (UTC) "reverted unexplained reversion"
4. 21:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 22:22, 5 April 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Eric Liddell."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 22:24, 5 April 2022 (UTC) "/* Location born */ new section"

Comments:

• Blocked – 24 hours. The user has also been making incorrect charges of vandalism in their edit summaries. EdJohnston (talk) 02:53, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Snowflake91 reported by User:2A0D:6FC0:1903:7100:E428:9058:3791:BE6E (Result: IP blocked 48h)

Page: Eran Zahavi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Snowflake91 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [35]
2. [36]
3. [37]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. [38]
2. [39]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. [40]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:

1. [41]

Comments:

We asked User:Snowflake91 on the talk page and many edit summaries from several editors to refrain from edit warring and try to discuss and resolve nicely and politely, each and every revert you made to other reliable additions of other editors who used many valid sources. Check out the revision history on top of User:Snowflake91's talk page. He is a troll who blocks literally any edition whether backed by one or multiple reliable sources. No explanations in the edit summaries besides the old triggerhappy undo message. He is literally a menace for many new and veteran editors who try to contribute to article involving football. Not the first of him getting blocked and warned either. 2A0D:6FC0:1903:7100:E428:9058:3791:BE6E (talk) 11:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

You are using personal attacks in edit summaries (talk about "resolve nicely and politely"), you are blatantly violationg copyrighting issues by copy/pasting content from the source directly to the article, entire paragraph was identical to the one on the web, you are using non-neutral words (as expected, since it was copy/pasted from sensationalistic website), you are violating WP:OVERLINK issues despite being warned, you are adding wrong names of the clubs, you are adding wrong categories, you are adding unsourced content to "honours" section etc. etc., and when I fixed everything after you and explained the issues line-by-line, you just reverted back and called me "autistic troll", so dont bullshit here please. Snowflake91 (talk) 11:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Please refrain from edit warring and try to discuss and resolve nicely and politely, each and every revert you made to other reliable additions of other editors who used many valid sources. Simple as that, just be kind to others. Wikipedia is about accumulating knowledge whislt having fun doing that along other kind information-savvy editors who are also just people, like you and I. 2A0D:6FC0:1903:7100:E428:9058:3791:BE6E (talk) 12:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

• IP blocked for 48h for disruptive editing at Eran Zahavi, including edit-warring, close paraphrasing, and personal attacks.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:47, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

User:YuriAki reported by User:Itssheenabautista (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

Page: List of awards and nominations received by Sarah Geronimo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: YuriAki (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [42]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [43]
2. [44]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [45]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [46]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [47]

Comments:
User YuriAki is cleary WP:NOTHERE and appears to be a disgruntled fanatic of the subject. There has been a history of previous editors who have been blocked for similar violations, such as these users [48], [49] Itssheenabautista (talk) 14:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

• Indefinitely blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:48, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Silverije reported by User:Slatersteven (Result:Page protected )

Page: Matija Zmajević (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Silverije (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [50]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [51]
2. [52]
3. [53]
4. [54]
5. [55]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [56]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [57]

Comments:

Note, this has in fact been going on for days. It also an old issue on this page that goes back years. Slatersteven (talk) 17:31, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

• Page protected by @Deepfriedokra: Jayron32 13:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User:2A02:8070:E192:A300:2CDF:96DC:9CE8:BFCF reported by User:Fyunck(click) (Result: /64 range blocked for 3 months)

Page: Ekaterine Gorgodze (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 2A02:8070:E192:A300:2CDF:96DC:9CE8:BFCF (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 21:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

This anon IP is having to be reverted by multiple editors while using multiple anon Ip's on dozens of articles. The page listed is one of many. see also here, and here, and here, and many many others. Since tradition IP punishment won't work can we get a limited range block on 2A02:8070:E192:A300: ? Maybe a few days without editing will make them stop. I warned a couple of the anon IPs but the next time they log in it's a different IP. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:08, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

• Since this post they have made more edits (two of which were reverted thus far) right here under a new IP. Again they were warned on the IP talk page, but I don't think it's going to stop. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:06, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
• And another right here. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
• Special:contributions/2A02:8070:E192:A300:0:0:0:0/64 blocked for 3 months. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/YoungDylan for background.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User:Deedman22 reported by User:RandomCanadian (Result: Blocked 2 weeks)

Page: Alexander the Great (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Deedman22 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Another
2. New revert after report
3. 05:24, 7 April 2022 (UTC) ""
4. 22:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1081344038 by Dumuzid (talk)see talk"
5. 21:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1081343691 by Dumuzid (talk)he gave no reasoning. he's linking an old discussion that has nothing to do with the current image. rv"
6. 21:30, 6 April 2022 (UTC) "Undid revision 1081025424 by RandomCanadian (talk)the bust is contemporary and is most certainly an improvement over the one proposed"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 00:37, 7 April 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 00:46, 7 April 2022 (UTC) "/* Picture of Bust of Alexander, again */"

Comments:

Wikipedia editing is not "wait until no-one is looking to reinstate your preferred version", yet that is exactly what they did, despite there not having been consensus for it either now or months ago. This is still the same problem that led to this user's block 8 months ago (@Bbb23:). Not only have they not learned from that, but their edits have once again crossed the 3RR bright-line... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 11:59, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian You literally decided (a few days ago) that you wanted to change the lead image to your preferred version (a lead image that has been in place for months). Your reasoning, aesthetic appeal, makes no sense, as you are replacing a depiction with historical context.

Also, my goal was not to wait until you "weren't looking"— i logged out for a bit, logged back in and saw you changed the image so I reverted it back. I could care less about whether you are looking or not. Cheers. 12:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC) Deedman22 (talk) 12:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Why does this look like a perfect copy of what happened back in June last? "Your reasoning makes no sense" is not how things work on Wikipedia. Simply because you disagree does not mean that you are right and others are wrong (that was the exact same line of reasoning you also used when this happened back last year, see I'm right because my reasoning is right, you're wrong because you have failed to provide a reasonable counter argument? from Talk:Alexander_the_Great/Archive_23#Image_dispute,_v2). You reinstated a version which is clearly disputed (as you should know from, uh, getting blocked for edit warring over it?). Please learn to collaborate with, not confront, your fellow editors. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian Your reasoning is literally "my bust looks prettier than yours, so it should be used" and mine is "the current one has historical context, and it is probably closer to what Alexander the Great actually looked like". the version that you are trying to change has also been in place for months is most certainly not "clearly disputed". So why you are suddenly deciding that you don't like it now and want to change it. Deedman22 (talk) 12:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Please stop misrepresenting my comments. I've detailed reasons, which include MOS:IMAGEQUALITY (which has not that much to do with personal preference, but with objective factors such as contrast and clarity of the depicted object - oh, and it not missing a nose) and plenty of others (including how the "historical context" claim is not only unprovable but not a sufficiently major distinction in this case to support a worse picture). You can keep poking the strawman, but that only shows that you're not willing to collaborate and a bit of WP:BATTLEGROUND. You reinstated your preferred version back in late February (which is just over a month ago), without any talk page discussion, despite you knowing full well that such a change had been rejected the last time around. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

huh, I reverted someone's edit who had been trying to change the current image that was already in place. the current image has been in place for over half a year.

This dispute was resolved months ago and the current lead image (which has been in place for over half a year) was the settled-on bust. You (for some reason) have decided that you want to start edit-warring again. Also, if you remember, the bust I originally proposed (the one by Lysippos) is not being used as the lead, and is further down. We came to a middle-ground. There's nothing wrong with the quality of the current bust.

Deedman22 (talk) 12:32, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

• This is very much undeniable evidence that the infobox image was changed back on February 23, just over a month ago, as I was saying, without any accompanying discussion or consensus. Worse than that, it's not even the same picture that's been restored this time around... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  Exactly, it was changed without discussion or consensus in Febuary, and i simply changed it back. What's worse is you aren't even looking at previous edits to see the image that has been used since at least July 2021. The Feb2022 edit that I made was a reversion to the one that has been used since July2021. And okay, it's the same bust at a different angle (by the exact same artist) so for all intents and purposes it's the same picture. Deedman22 (talk) 12:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  Deedman22, I agree with RandomCanadian on this. A consensus of 2 should not be hard to challenge, but thus far it seems that you are alone. I would urge you to persuade rather than bludgeon. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 12:50, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  I've linked the last talk page discussion on this (Talk:Alexander_the_Great/Archive_23#Image_dispute,_v2) - and there is no consensus for your proposed version there. In fact, there seems to be consensus against using your version. This doesn't have to end like last time, although again that's entirely your choice. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:53, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  @RandomCanadian The version I was proposing in that discussion is for an entirely different image. Yes, there is a 2:1 consensus against the version i proposed in that discussion (by the same two people this time around), which is why it's not the image that is currently being used, and the version that is being used was the middle-ground image. Now you two are deciding that you don't like it and are ganging up on "middle-ground" image. Interesting. Deedman22 (talk) 12:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  You can't play two tunes on the same fiddle. It's not is for an entirely different image. In that very same discussion, you said, and I quote, It is a picture of the same bust at a different angle. If a very similar picture was rejected, simply using a slightly different one doesn't quite cut it as "middle-ground" per any definition of that term. A middle-ground would be something like the Alexander Mosaic (which a lot of people have said they'd be fine with). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:12, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  @RandomCanadian if you read the discussion i was clearly arguing for the usage of the Lysippos depiction, but since you kept changing that, I began defending the usage of the then-current image (which was the Leochares depiction, the current image now) as the middle ground. Deedman22 (talk) 13:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  @RandomCanadian The bottom line is, you decided, three days ago, that you wanted to change the lead image (one that has been in use for many months) to an image that fits your taste for aesthetic appeal, without any accompanying discussion or consensus, and then you brought up an old discussion about two completely different images (Lysippos depiction vs Roman portrayal), with very little context, and when I tried to change it back you began edit-warring. Deedman22 (talk) 13:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  Deedman22, however this began, I concur with RandomCanadian now. That looks like consensus to me. If you can show otherwise, please do. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 13:33, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  You've broken WP:3RR, and are edit warring against two other editors who've each made two edits each. Beam in your own eye, and all of that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:37, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  Deedman22, please stop reverting even while this discussion continues. That will almost certainly lead to sanctions against you. Dumuzid (talk) 13:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 2 weeks. Bbb23 (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User:2A00:23C4:4788:2400:FDF0:F5B2:3CBE:C401 reported by User:PAVLOV (Result: )

Page: British Union of Fascists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 2A00:23C4:4788:2400:FDF0:F5B2:3CBE:C401 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 20:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC) "Oswald Mosley was left wing, his own words. Only a fool or a liar would parrot the left wing diatribe of Fascism being Far Right. Fascism was a progressive left wing ideology, hence the attraction to Mosley. To quote Mosley In 1968, he remarked in a letter to The Times, "I am not, and never have been, a man of the right. My position was on the left and is now in the centre of politics."[62]"
2. 20:12, 7 April 2022 (UTC) "Cannolis LMFAO you Soy Boy Black Shirt, I'm waiting for you to revert it again, like a true Left Wing Fascist would. Adolf would have been proud of you LOL"
3. 20:02, 7 April 2022 (UTC) "Cannolis, your personal opinion & political affiliations disregards the FACTS. The Doctrine of Fascism was written by the far left Giovanni Gentile & Benito Mussolini, heavily influenced by communism. FACTS."
4. 19:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC) "Oswald Mosley Wiki page, he was left wing. In 1968, he remarked in a letter to The Times, "I am not, and never have been, a man of the right. My position was on the left and is now in the centre of politics."[62]"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 20:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on British Union of Fascists."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

Well, this edit war was started by this IP user and seemed they don't want to communicate with each other. PAVLOV (talk) 20:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

@Cannolis: welcome to share your opinion about this case. Thanks a lot. PAVLOV (talk) 20:33, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Looked to me to be an IP trying to push the absurd idea that fascism is a left wing ideology. Considered it to be vandalism so I was reverting freely though perhaps it was just WP:OR with the IP thinking Mosley's quote constitutes a RS for this particular group being left wing. Cannolis (talk) 20:39, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Also been involved here; the IP has repeatedly reverted several users while trying to equivocate fascism as being a leftist ideology. My last revert asks for discussion prior to future edits. We'll see. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Should also note that the first two edits of this string came from Special:Contributions/92.40.174.238 Tony Fox (arf!) 20:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User: Galileeblack reported by User: Sweetpool50

Page: A. E. Housman
User being reported: Galileeblack

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 20:26, 5 April 2022
2. 21:05, 5 April 2022‎
3. 15:53, 6 April 2022
4. 16:22, 6 April 2022

The last was an immediate reversion of user’s self-reversion

Appeal to discuss matter

1. 20:58, 5 April 2022

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 22:35, 6 April 2022

Relevant talk page discussions:

1. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:A._E._Housman&oldid=1081246595]

Subsequently blanked by user #[58] And replaced by another editor

1. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:A._E._Housman&oldid=1081298618]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: 8 April 2022

User:Ankit solanki982 reported by User:Slatersteven (Result: )

Page: Indian Rebellion of 1857 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ankit solanki982 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [59]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [60]
2. [61]
3. [62]
4. [63]
5. [64]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [65]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [66]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [67]

Comments:

Note they have in fact (along with oither users) been at this for days. Slatersteven (talk) 11:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Mako001 reported by User:Slatersteven (Result: )

Page: Indian Rebellion of 1857 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Mako001 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [68]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [69]
2. [70]
3. [71]
4. [72]
5. [73]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [74]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [75]

Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [76]

Comments:

Note they have in fact (along with oither users) been at this for days. Slatersteven (talk) 11:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)