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Ad Nauseam, not Nasuem

"...which stages the story ad nasuem..." is incorrect; the term is "ad nauseam." If the word is misspelled in the passage being quoted, there should be a [sic] after "nasuem." ~~Mpaniello~~

citations needed

"Hussein's rule was a repressive dictatorship[12] notorious for it's human rights abuses." You cite that he was a dictator but not that he was notorious for human rights abuses. While it may seem obvious (sic) to westerners it needs a solid citation. -thanks

Sections

How does Iran–Iraq War, Gulf War and all come under Foreign Policy section. Ok leave it, how did Anfal campaign came under this section. If this will continue, then we have to create an another page titled Foreign policy of Saddam Hussein, which will larger in length than Foreign policy of Iraq. Better is two design the article in this way

Political career (into subsections Iran–Iraq War, Tensions with Kuwait, Gulf War, Kurdish uprising, Anfal campaign, Dujail Massacre and
Ba'athist Government of Saddam (Economic and social reforms, Religious harmony, Development of Iraq etc.)

Kharbaan Ghaltaan (talk) 15:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Positions of power in the country were mostly filled with Sunni Arabs, a minority that made up --only a fifth of the population.

Replace this with "about". The word "only" connotes that 20% of a population is "small" in a sentence that already comes off as an attempt to sway the reader's opinion. Justintimefordinner (talk) 08:52, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Bazza 7 (talk) 09:54, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Please replace the signature file of the English Wikipedia 'Saddam Hussein' document with 'Signature of Saddam Hussein.svg'. Zegras (talk) 10:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Skitash (talk) 10:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restored summary of Anfal campaign to lede

I restored the following sentence on the Anfal campaign which had been removed a month ago by @Mteiritay in this revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saddam_Hussein&diff=prev&oldid=1209898155.

> At the end of the war he carried out brutal Anfal campaign against Kurds, recognized by HRW as an act of genocide.

It was removed for lacking a source, but none of the lede in this article is sourced inline, it all summarises the article itself. The sources in question are these: https://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2006/08/14/genocide-iraq-anfal-campaign-against-kurds and https://www.hrw.org/reports/1993/iraqanfal/. Fedjmike (talk) 22:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Saddam Hussein won an award for eradicating literacy instead of establishing public health systems (per https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000030840 , page 3) - suggest changing "Within just a few years, Iraq was providing social services that were unprecedented among Middle Eastern countries. Saddam established and controlled the "National Campaign for the Eradication of Illiteracy" and the campaign for "Compulsory Free Education in Iraq", and largely under his auspices, the government established universal free schooling up to the highest education levels; hundreds of thousands learned to read in the years following the initiation of the program. The government also supported families of soldiers, granted free hospitalization to everyone, and gave subsidies to farmers. Iraq created one of the most modernized public-health systems in the Middle East, earning Saddam an award from the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)." to "Within just a few years, Iraq was providing social services that were unprecedented among Middle Eastern countries. Saddam established and controlled the "National Campaign for the Eradication of Illiteracy" and the campaign for "Compulsory Free Education in Iraq", and largely under his auspices, the government established universal free schooling up to the highest education levels; hundreds of thousands learned to read in the years following the initiation of the program. This would lead to Saddam receiving a UNESCO literacy prize in 1972. The government also supported families of soldiers, granted free hospitalization to everyone, and gave subsidies to farmers; in this, Iraq created one of the most modernized public-health systems in the Middle East." (Political Program section paragraph 5) Sdoww (talk) 23:39, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 08:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coughlin harv errors

While doing other article cleanup, I noticed three harv errors pointing to a Coughlin source. I'm not sure of the best way to clean them up. Perhaps someone really skilled with this could tackle it? Thanks. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 05:59, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Coughlin harv errors ==
+While doing other article cleanup, I noticed three harv errors pointing to a Coughlin source. I'm not sure of the best way to clean them up. Perhaps someone really skilled with this could tackle it? Thanks. [[User:StefenTower|<span style="color: green;">'''Stefen <span style="white-space: nowrap;">Tower<sub>s among the rest!</sub></span>'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:StefenTower|Gab]] • [[Special:Contributions/StefenTower|Gruntwerk]]</sup> 05:59, 14 April 2024 (UTC)