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This seems to be something coined by A. Young, and was not adopted in the wider world. Other sources such as Scientific American and the NIST do not mention the word. Also, COI editing is involved here: Special:Contributions/Adamlucasyoung. PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~ : I don't see use of the term in any RS, other than here [1] and I'm not sure if that is even a valid source. Appears to be a new word that never caught on. Oaktree b (talk) 13:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I stand corrected, Gscholar has many papers using the term and it's been in use since the 1990's [2], [3] and [4]. Oaktree b (talk) 14:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[2] is a paper by the person who coined the term originally, and so is [4]. Leaves [3], which is not enough. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep @Oaktree b got one that passed the nominator's litmus test but there plenty are more. For example:

There are ~~684~~ 855 hits on Google Scholar for this term, only a few of which are by Young. Yes, many are not RS but these would have been found on the most minimal WP:BEFORE search. If @PhotographyEdits still feels this term has not been "adopted in the wider world" then I think it would be incumbent on them to explain what efforts they made to exclude the possibility the google scholar results contain less than two reliable sources with significant coverage of the term. Oblivy (talk) 07:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The number of passing mentions does not mean it passes the WP:GNG.

Quite a lot of them are citogenesis, because the cryptovirology word has been included for a long time in the first sentence of the ransomware article. A whole lot are just returning a hit because they cite the original paper by A. Young but do not add anything about the term. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you consider the Bhardwaj & Das book chapter? It is literally about cryptivirology ("the study in this chapter deals with the dynamics of worm propagation in cryptovirol-
ogy"). Is that a passing mention?

I don't understand this: Quite a lot of them are citogenesis, because the cryptovirology word has been included for a long time in the first sentence of the ransomware article. Can you explain? Note that when "a whole lot" of papers cite a paper about a concept that can be evidence of notability.

Can you confirm you did a WP:BEFORE search that included Google Scholar? Your nomination statement only talked about existing sources and I think disregarding hundreds of hits would generate some explanation. Oblivy (talk) 13:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~delete~~, not a standard terminology, looks like a promo for its author. Artem.G (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- still sounds strange to me, but google scholar shows 855 results. Artem.G (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  The first paper in the results cites Wikipedia itself. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Two books here [5] and [6]. The term is also used in French [7] and here [8]. The term might not be that well-known, but it's used enough to at least show basic notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  and here [9] from 2008. Oaktree b (talk) 14:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Something I did not mentioned but I should make clear: the article is redundant. As the originator of the terms says in the following article: https://cacm.acm.org/opinion/cryptovirology/

"Years later, the media relabeled the cryptoviral extortion attack as ransomware."

Therefore, this article should be a redirect to ransomware article. The term should only be mentioned in the early history of ransomware. PhotographyEdits (talk) 19:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 **::Two books here [https://books.google.ca/books?id=J--spA-jJ14C&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PA86&dq=cryptovirology&pg=PA86#v=onepage&q=cryptovirology&f=false] and [https://books.google.ca/books?id=x559DwAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PA415&dq=cryptovirology&pg=PA415#v=onepage&q=cryptovirology&f=false]. The term is also used in French [https://books.google.ca/books?id=bs3c3JAwCFEC&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PA55&dq=cryptovirologie&pg=PA55#v=onepage&q&f=false] and here [https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-2-287-33888-5_8]. The term might not be that well-known, but it's used enough to at least show basic notability. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 14:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 **:::and here [https://books.google.ca/books?id=xnW-qvk1gzkC&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PA181&dq=cryptovirology&pg=PA181#v=onepage&q=cryptovirology&f=false] from 2008. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 14:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
+* '''Comment''' Something I did not mentioned but I should make clear: the article is redundant. As the originator of the terms says in the following article: https://cacm.acm.org/opinion/cryptovirology/
+:"Years later, the media relabeled the cryptoviral extortion attack as ransomware."
+: Therefore, this article should be a redirect to ransomware article. The term should only be mentioned in the early history of ransomware. [[User:PhotographyEdits|PhotographyEdits]] ([[User talk:PhotographyEdits|talk]]) 19:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)