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== Naming discussion ==

Replying here as off-topic discussion often 'clogs up the arteries' of RfCs.

I am indeed defending the status quo name - or at least pointing out what needs to have happened and what needs to have changed ''(basically COMMONNAME) ''for a name change to occur. I don't in the least apologise for pointing out that UN resolutions and moral arguments ''(RGW if you like)'', in this context are so much fluff.

When you have lived with an article a long time ''(I have watched this one for quite a few years)'', it can be difficult to bring 'fresh eyes', so basically I've said I won't support or oppose the name change until evidence is provided. Yes, my default position is that there is nothing wrong with the present name and that the proposed name ''WAS'', but may no longer be, primarily an 'advocacy' name. I don't apologise for any of that, neither do I take offence unless someone ''(as another editor did)'', seeks to impugn my motives as being that I am somehow denying the basic facts of a calculated, planned, cynically implemented mass-murder of around 8000+ men and boys at Srebrenica.

There are countless examples where commonname may not be optimum, for a variety of reasons. [[User:Pincrete|Pincrete]] ([[User talk:Pincrete|talk]]) 07:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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Naming discussion

Replying here as off-topic discussion often 'clogs up the arteries' of RfCs.

I am indeed defending the status quo name - or at least pointing out what needs to have happened and what needs to have changed (basically COMMONNAME) for a name change to occur. I don't in the least apologise for pointing out that UN resolutions and moral arguments (RGW if you like), in this context are so much fluff.

When you have lived with an article a long time (I have watched this one for quite a few years), it can be difficult to bring 'fresh eyes', so basically I've said I won't support or oppose the name change until evidence is provided. Yes, my default position is that there is nothing wrong with the present name and that the proposed name WAS, but may no longer be, primarily an 'advocacy' name. I don't apologise for any of that, neither do I take offence unless someone (as another editor did), seeks to impugn my motives as being that I am somehow denying the basic facts of a calculated, planned, cynically implemented mass-murder of around 8000+ men and boys at Srebrenica.

There are countless examples where commonname may not be optimum, for a variety of reasons. Pincrete (talk) 07:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]