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*[[Lord William Cecil (bishop)]] (sons) [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/178552/john-arthur-gascoyne-cecil/ John Arthur], [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/489674/rupert-edward-gascoyne-cecil/ Rupert Edward], [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/1753100/randle-william-gascoyne-cecil/ Randle William]
*{DONE} [[Lord William Cecil (bishop)]] (sons) [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/178552/john-arthur-gascoyne-cecil/ John Arthur], [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/489674/rupert-edward-gascoyne-cecil/ Rupert Edward], [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/1753100/randle-william-gascoyne-cecil/ Randle William]
*[[Carmen Dillon]] (elder brother) [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/65108/joseph-dillon/ maybe]
*[[Carmen Dillon]] (elder brother) [https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/65108/joseph-dillon/ maybe]
*[[Freda Lingstrom]] and [[Maria Bird]] - both [https://bearalley.blogspot.com/2007/05/maria-bird.html engaged to soldiers who died in WWI] - unable to find their names in any sources yet

Revision as of 13:49, 15 November 2024

To improve

Miscellaneous

Keep an eye on:

WWI stuff that doesn't count for contest:

Other

Other ideas:

Potential or actual articles:

WWI news

Some WWI news stories I noticed that could be added to articles or otherwise used as resources:

WWI British generals

http://www.firstworldwar.bham.ac.uk/donkey/index.htm

The answer: "But what about the mass of general officers in an army of 60 divisions and two million men? Who were they? How many were there? How were they chosen, promoted and dismissed? [...] As a taste of things to come the Centre for First World War Studies will be presenting a weekly portrait of one of Britain’s Western Front generals, of whom there were (at the last count) 1,257."

Full list is available at the link here and also here.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_generals_died_in_world_war_1

"78 British and Dominion officers of the rank of Brigadier General and above died on active service in the First World War while a further 146 were wounded. These figures alone show that, contrary to popular belief, British Generals frequently went close enough to the battle zone to place themselves in considerable danger."

Need to find source for that "78" figure. The Western Front figure is 58, maybe the higher figure comes from the other study listed here (the "British Senior Officer Casualties on the Western Front 1914-1918"), though as that is also specifying "Western Front", maybe not.

Hmm. Something here (a criticism of the 78 figure). The author of the 78 figure is Professor Peter Simkins of the Imperial War Museum. See also here for a BBC article from 1998.

From: Category:British Army World War I generals

Total of 196 so far. Divided into groups:

  • (A) Lack talk page
  • (B) Lack Military History tag
  • (C) Lack of WWI parameter

196 from A-Z

  • 108 are listed above in various categories (11/50/47).
  • 88 are tagged MilHist and WWI, but may lack British and Biography.
British Generals that died in WWI
Moved to User:Carcharoth/Article incubator/List of British Army generals who died during World War I

More ideas

Great resource on generals here:

http://www.westernfrontassociation.com/great-war-on-land/the-generals/130-british-military-leaders-great-war-terraine.html

Write something on state funerals of Haig and Foch.

Point out that articles like this are not covered by "World War I generals" category:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Currie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Mercer

Also, some Field Marshals missing from the British WWI generals category (technically, they are not generals):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Kitchener,_1st_Earl_Kitchener

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Field_Marshals

And this is an excellent resource:

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/iss/archives/

Look through all the pages on generals for more ideas on sources.

Concorde crash

Add something on what happened to those on the ground during the Concorde crash.

Robert Boyle

Have acquired major new biography (published 2009). Article has potential for improvement from its current state. Lots to work on at the Robert Boyle page, and at the Boyle Lectures page.

American Museum of Natural History

Books ordered (arrived ages ago and second one read)

  • American Museum of Natural History: 125 Years of Expedition and Discovery - Edward O. Wilson
  • Dinosaurs in the Attic: An Excursion Into the American Museum of Natural History - Douglas J. Preston

Use to improve American Museum of Natural History, and go back to idea of separate article for the Library.

Lister Medal

Lister Medal stuff again: look here and here and take a copy and try and get an answer about what happened to the medal after 1997/8.

WWI poetry

Dumping a random idea here, as I haven't really found time to follow it up.

Jerusalem was popularised as a poem during WWI. The hymn music was written in 1916. The poem was included in a patriotic anthology of verse published in 1916.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1914_in_poetry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1915_in_poetry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_in_poetry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_in_poetry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_in_poetry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_in_poetry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920_in_poetry

Maybe a list of anthologies in my userspace?

http://www.archive.org/details/propatrietregepo00kniguoft

"Pro patria et rege" looks interesting.

Deaths in the years 1914 to 1918 and 1939 to 1945

A random idea that led to a Signpost articles (on births and deaths in the 20th century in terms of Wikipedia articles), but now dumping here as not enough time to follow up (this is more detailed thesis-level stuff):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1914_deaths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1915_deaths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1916_deaths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1917_deaths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1918_deaths

  • Total for 1914-1918 is 5,998 deaths.
  • Total for 1939-1945 is 12,734 deaths.

Compare to:

Idea would be to see what proportion of deaths among those with Wikipedia articles are due to the wars.

Most expensive books

Another fairly random idea.

Possible lists there. Check before going ahead with this.

Do we need and article on the "Northumberland Bestiary"?

Do we have an article on Mozart's manuscripts?

Try to identify specific Hebrew Bible sold at auction.

Do we need an article on the "Monypenny Breviary"?

Hours and psalters of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_de_Bohun,_Countess_of_Arundel

Might be this woman, actually:

Search there for "Bohun", and do list of "Bohun manuscripts"?

Group articles will work better here.

Indigenous peoples of Russia and Central Asia

Starting to develop an interest in this area. See if The Red Book of the Peoples of the Russian Empire is a reliable source.

NASA history

Some useful sources on NASA history, and biographies:

Radiology

Hamburg Radiation Martyrs Memorial: "In 1936 a memorial was erected in Hamburg to the early pioneers of x-rays who suffered radiation injury or lost their lives due to their work. [...] 169 names from 15 nations inscribed on the monument." [1]

Matthew White Ridley

Matthew White Ridley (1837-1888) may be confused with the other Matthew White Ridleys listed at Matthew Ridley. Some possible sources for a short article:

Lots of etchings and paintings, but not much more.

Queen Victoria and family

Queen Victoria and family
Queen Victoria and family in 1877
Group portrait from 1877
Identification key
Identification key

From Grandchildren of Victoria and Albert (image and identification key), with 39 people listed (the artwork was published 14 July 1877):

  1. Prince Frederick William Louis of Hesse, K.G. Louis IV, Grand Duke of Hesse
  2. Prince Frederick William Victor Albert of Prussia. Wilhelm II, German Emperor
  3. Princess Frederika Amelia Wilhelmina Victoria of Prussia. Princess Viktoria of Prussia
  4. Princess Victoria Elizabeth Augusta Charlotte of Prussia. Princess Charlotte of Prussia
  5. Prince Ernest Louis Charles Albert William of Hesse. Ernest Louis, Grand Duke of Hesse
  6. Prince Albert John Charles Frederic[k] Alfred George of Schleswig-Holstein. Albert, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein
  7. Frederick William, Imperial Crown Prince of Germany and Prussia, K.G. Frederick III, German Emperor
  8. Prince Christian of Schleswig-Holstein, K.G. Prince Christian of Schleswig-Holstein
  9. Prince Arthur, K.G., Duke of Connaught and Strathearn. Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn
  10. Prince Christian Victor Albert Ludwig Ernest Anton of Schleswig-Holstein. Prince Christian Victor of Schleswig-Holstein
  11. Prince Joachim Frederick Ernest Waldemar of Prussia. Prince Waldemar of Prussia (1868–1879)
  12. Princess Sophie Dorothée Ulrique Alice of Prussia. Sophia of Prussia
  13. Princess Margaretta Beatrice Feodore of Prussia. Princess Margaret of Prussia
  14. Victoria, Princess Royal of England, and Imperial Crown Princess of Germany and Prussia. Victoria, Princess Royal
  15. Prince Leopold, K.G. Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany
  16. The Marquis of Lorne, K.T. John Campbell, 9th Duke of Argyll
  17. Prince Albert William Henry of Prussia. Prince Henry of Prussia (1862–1929)
  18. Albert Edward, Prince of Wales, K.G. Edward VII
  19. Her Majesty Queen Victoria. Queen Victoria
  20. Princess Franziska Josepha Louise Augusta Mary Christina Helena of Schleswig-Holstein. Princess Marie Louise of Schleswig-Holstein
  21. Princess Elizabeth Alexandrine Louise Alice of Hesse. Princess Elisabeth of Hesse and by Rhine (1864–1918)
  22. Princess Victoria Alexandrina Olga Mary of Wales. Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom
  23. Princess Louise Victoria Alexandra Dagmar of Wales. Louise, Princess Royal
  24. Princess Maud Charlotte Mary Victoria of Wales. Maud of Wales
  25. Prince George Frederick Ernest Albert of Wales. George V
  26. Prince Alfred Alexander William Ernest Albert (Son of the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh). Alfred, Hereditary Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
  27. Alexandra, Princess of Wales. Alexandra of Denmark
  28. Prince Albert Victor Christian Edward of Wales. Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence and Avondale
  29. Prince Alfred, K.G., Duke of Edinburgh. Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
  30. Princess Irene Marie Louise Anna of Hesse. Princess Irene of Hesse and by Rhine
  31. Princess Victoria Louise Sophie Augusta Amelia Helena of Schleswig-Holstein. Princess Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein
  32. Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein (Princess Helena of England). Princess Helena of the United Kingdom
  33. Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Grand Duchess of Russia. Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia
  34. Princess Beatrice Mary Victoria Feodora. Princess Beatrice of the United Kingdom
  35. Princess Louise, Marchioness of Lorne. Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll
  36. Princess Victoria Alberta Elizabeth Matilda Mary of Hesse. Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine
  37. Princess Victoria Alice Helena Louisa Beatrice of Hesse. Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix of Hesse)
  38. Princess Louis of Hesse (Princess Alice of England). Princess Alice of the United Kingdom
  39. Princess Maria Victoria Feodore Leopoldine of Hesse. Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine

Notes

This copy of the work dates from 1877, but the original may have been earlier. The ages of the people portrayed have been calculated using the date it was published in the USA in Frank Leslie's Illustrated Newspaper: 14 July 1877. No source located yet as to the earliest publication date, or when the work was produced.

It is a group portrait showing Queen Victoria and her sons, daughters, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law, and her grandchildren. All nine of her children are present (four sons and five daughters). Three of them had not yet married. Six of them had married and of those marriages five had produced children. Twenty-three of her grandchildren are present in this scene, ranging in ages from 2 years to 18 years. If the date of 1877 is correct, then two grandchildren are missing: Marie of Romania (born 29 October 1875) and Princess Victoria Melita of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (born 25 November 1876). Possibly the portrait actually dates to between 15 October 1874 (the birth date of the youngest person present: Alfred, Hereditary Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) and 29 October 1875 (the birth date of the next grandchild to be born: Marie of Romania). The eldest grandchild is the future Wilhelm II, German Emperor, who is somewhere between 16 and 18 depending on the exact date of this work.

The arrangement within the portrait shows the Wales family (the heirs to the throne) grouped around Queen Victoria, while the Prussian family (heirs to the German throne) is grouped at left. The Hessian, Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Edinburgh) and Schleswig-Holstein families are largely not grouped together. The two youngest grandchildren are at centre. The elder male grandchildren are standing with their fathers or with other older male relatives.

Lots has been written about the extended connections of Victoria's children and descendants across Europe (example). Some of the examples here are two future kings of the United Kingdom, two future German emperors, two sisters that would die in the Russian Revolution (one as Empress of Russia), and a future Queen of Norway. Another portrait from around the same time (1875) shows just the Queen and her children and their consorts (The Royal Family of England, 1875, from the British Museum).

Sons and wives

Daughters and husbands

Grandchildren

Seven surviving children of Victoria and Frederick:

Five surviving children of Edward and Alexandra:

Six surviving children of Alice and Louis:

One child of Alfred and Maria:

Four surviving children of Helena and Christian:

World War I novels and memoirs

Look through Category:World War I novels and Category:Personal accounts of World War I and maybe make a list and/or separate out the works by veterans of WWI and other 'types' (including later works by those responding to the history). See also World War I in popular culture, and World War I in literature. Theatre is not well covered at the moment?

Random people

The following could be expanded:

CWGC URLs to convert to templates

Use {{CWGC}} and {{CWGC cemetery}}. List pages with large numbers of potential uses of these templates. The numbers above date from 8 August. 22:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Analysis of the data for the above external links searches, using data obtained on 26 August 2016:

  • Total of 4965 links, with 268 outside of article namespace. (update on 29 January 2018: 5338 links, with 361 outside article namespace)
  • Hence 4697 links from articles, but several have more than one link. (update on 29 January 2018: 4977 links from articles)
  • Total number of articles with these links is 3051. (update on 29 January 2018: 3273 articles)

The articles are mainly people, cemeteries, churches, memorials, military units/battles/ships, various list articles and assorted other article types.

Useful results (to be copied here at some point and/or onto a subpage):

It would be useful to have the article list sorted by type, but that would involve going through all 3000+ and tagging them by type (this is normally done by examining the categories attached to the articles).

All CWGC casualty and cemetery URLs now corrected in these articles where they were of the 'aspx' form.

Parliamentary war memorials

UK Parliament

IWM war memorial inventory

WWI and WWI:

Richard I:

IRA:

Other memorials

WWI images

Someone put up a scanned copy of For remembrance, soldier poets who have fallen in the war, and the images are at: commons:Category:For remembrance, soldier poets who have fallen in the war, Adcock, 1920. Very useful - add these to articles.

Titanic memorial

Memorial to the Engine Room Heroes of the Titanic:

ICAS

People present or organising the event:

Bank of England doors

"Wheeler's lions guard each of the portals into the Bank, on Threadneedle Street, Princes Street, Bartholomew Lane, and the two gates on Lothbury".

  • Semi-related article here.

Burial places

WWI casualties

Articles of interest:

Armistice and centenary photos on Commons

Some notes for photos to potentially use.

Other centenary notes

Letters from Baghdad

Missing articles on people featured in Letters from Baghdad:

Other

ACS awards

List of American Chemical Society national awards

Nuclear Chemistry

75th anniversary of D-Day

Similar to the (off-wiki) notes I have on the various WWI commemorations, consider where material on the 75th anniversary of D-Day (BBC news) might be best placed and if enough to justify a separate article. And maybe 25 years is not too soon to plan for 100th anniversary of WWII... (though the main lesson is that it becomes harder to bring the main articles to featured status as they get edited more as interest rises, and as new materials is published and the historiography undergoes changes as more research is done). Start to look for 'anniversary' articles on WW2 in general.

Facto Post

Interesting:

Medical

Memorial names

Names on this memorial from a famous banking family. CWGC records and Wikipedia article connections listed here.

1914-1918
1939-1945
  • Algernon Robert Augustus Smith Dorrien Smith CWGC - one of three brothers on this memorial
  • Edward Carington Smith CWGC
  • Francis Arthur Smith Dorrien Smith CWGC - one of three brothers on this memorial
  • Geoffrey Richard Smith Dorrien Smith CWGC
  • Gerald Horace Grenfell Smith-Dorrien, D.S.O. CWGC - son of Horace Smith-Dorrien, one of two brothers on this memorial
  • Graham Arthur Cecil Carington, D.F.M. CWGC
  • Horace Algernon Smith Dorrien Smith CWGC
  • Humphrey Hugh Smith, D.S.O. CWGC, more on this admiral here
  • Lionel Roger Smith Dorrien Smith CWGC - one of three brothers on this memorial
  • Peter Lockwood Smith-Dorrien, O.B.E. (no CWGC record, killed in the King David Hotel bombing on 22 July 1946) - son of Horace Smith-Dorrien, one of two brothers on this memorial
  • Robert Eustace Abel Smith CWGC

Similar memorial at Eton (*) is described here and here ('Sons of Eton and Descendants of Thomas Smith of Nottingham 1631').

The Waler: Australia’s Great War Horse

Examples of topics covered and people and battles mentioned and 'talking heads' that participated: waler horse, 12th Light Horse Regiment (Australia), Battle of Romani, Battle of Beersheba (1917). Brad Manera, Roland Perry, Jill Mather, Michael Tyquin, Jean Bou, Mesut Uyar.

Philip Gibbs

Books by Philip Gibbs include The Unknown Warrior: Burial in Westminster Abbey and The Soul of A Nation.

Thomas Moult

Books by Thomas Moult include Cenotaph: A Book of Remembrance in Poetry and Praise for November the Eleventh (1923)

More WWI and WWII deaths

  • Some people are only tangentially mentioned in Wikipedia articles - they do not have their own articles and are not related to those with articles, so mentioning them is likely WP:UNDUE (undue weight), so record these separately. An example (found when reading the FAC review of the article Australasian Antarctic Expedition, a lovely tribute to the late Brian Boulton) is the mentions of Edward Frederick Robert Bage (who does have his own article) and Leslie Blake who died in 1918. CWGC website is currently down, but these can be added or noted somewhere at some point.
  • Some discussion at talk pages as well: don't forget the discussion here.

Unknown Warrior burial centenary ceremony

Some notes on this (11/11/2020 in Westminster Abbey):

Welsh football in WWI

Welsh-language S4C programme presented by Owain Tudur Jones and broadcast in May 2016 ('Owain Tudur Jones: Ar Faes y Gad') features the following who have entries on the CWGC database:

Also featured: Robert Mills-Roberts and Morgan Morgan-Owen and Fred Keenor and George Latham and Harry Beadles.

Arthur Roberts and Jackie Kay

Poetry by Jackie Kay features in an account of the wartime experience of black Glaswegian soldier Arthur Roberts. Programme ('A Scottish Soldier: A Lost Diary of WWI') opens with a view of the war memorial in George Square.

More war memorials

Other railway companies with memorials

Parliamentarians in war

Need to pay more attention! The list(s) I have had knocking around in userspace for several years of MPs killed in the war (plus all the other parliamentarians) really should be dusted off and used, as someone has done some lists over on the French-language Wikipedia (it is a rule of thumb that if you delay long enough on Wikipedia, someone else will do it):

Created by the same person (maybe contact them?), first one June 2019, the others more recently (end of 2020). There were some MPs in Canada and Australia who also died as well. Not sure if lists have been done for other countries.

Sculptors

AfDs

The AfDs were: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7. Of these, Ernest Russell Lyon and Bankole Vivour have material that could possibly be re-used elsewhere (with suitable references). See also the contribs of those who created the articles.

Pearson, Crosfield and Richards families

Lionel Godfrey Pearson and William Winstanley Pearson are brothers. Their parents were Samuel Pearson and Bertha Eliza Crosfield. The liberal MP William Crosfield is a brother of Bertha. One of the sisters of Lionel and William ('Willie') was Edith Ryley Pearson who married Leyton Richards. In a biographical account of her husband, Private View of a Public Man: The Life of Leyton Richards (1950), Edith said: "I had five brothers older than myself and one younger, and a sister, Dorothy, my constant friend and companion, two years my junior". There was also a sister that died young (Gertrude Margaret) mentioned here (died April 3 1886, aged 9 years and 4 months). See also family tree here.

  • Edgar Crosfield Pearson (1873-1938)
  • Sidney Vere Pearson (1875-1950)
  • Horace Pearson (1878-1946)
  • Lionel Godfr(e)y Pearson (1879-1953)
  • William Winstanley Pearson (1881-1923)
  • Edith Ryley Pearson (1884-1963)
  • Dorothy Bertha Pearson (1886-1926)
  • Plus a younger brother?

Random

Burials and services for British WWI generals

A semi-complete listing of the burial locations and memorial services for the leading British WWI generals plus some naval and air force leaders as well. Mainly looking at those that attained the rank of field marshal, and those who had services or burials in Westminster Abbey (for the leading French generals, most are buried at Les Invalides - see for example the tomb of Foch).

Semi-random notes

Possible