Talk:2023–24 NHL transactions

Max Domi

Seems to be a disagreement (at Max Domi's page) over whether or not Domi has signed with the Maple Leafs. GoodDay (talk) 01:20, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Moot issue, as it's now confirmed. Rusted AutoParts 02:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Derek Stepan

@Uncleben85, w/ Stepan; no official sources have confirmed he's retired/taken a team position, and the article used says it's based off a report from an NHL insider on Twitter. For now, I think it's best to be hidden until a more reputable/official report comes along. The Kip 23:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Indenting

@The Kip: Greetings! Regarding the restoration of the emsp;s in this and other articles...I didn't particularly like the indenting, because it almost but not quite hit the right edge of the word "conditional" on the previous line. Due to differences in fonts from reader to reader, it's not possible to reliable hit that sort of thing exactly. I was happy with no indenting, but if you want some, it might look better to use {{in5}} (using the wiki way instead of an HTML entity per MOS:MARKUP) and put "or" at the beginning of each indented line for clarity? -- Beland (talk) 21:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@Beland Thanks for the heads-up - I'll defer to @Uncleben85 here, as he's the primary transactions page guy. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I am happy to switch to wiki markup. I feel it definitely needs the indent though. I think I would be more inclined to start it on the current season, then to go back and redo past seasons.--–uncleben85 (talk) 22:48, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I've switched the indentation markup. I also notice there is a lot of content in "span" tags' "title" attribute that should be in footnotes with {{efn}} or just put in the main text. -- Beland (talk) 23:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I've fixed the "title" abuse for this article now as well, to demonstrate how it can be fixed for other articles. -- Beland (talk) 23:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Beland Ah, with all due respect I’m not a fan - it makes the tables more visually cluttered, and when future considerations do convert it makes worse. The Kip ^(contribs) 00:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Which change are you referring to? -- Beland (talk) 00:36, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Converting the spans/titles into in-table notes. The Kip ^(contribs) 02:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I assume putting this info into the "title" is to produce a tooltip (popup text) on hover? This technique is prohibited by MOS:NOTOOLTIPS. This text would be invisible to most readers, including 1.) nearly all desktop readers; there's no indication that hovering over "conditional" would do anything, 2.) all mobile readers (the majority of traffic these days) who cannot hover because they are not using a mouse, and 3.) people using text-to-speech systems (as I do sometimes).

End notes are a standard English Wikipedia mechanism for providing supplementary information, though they still present info out-of-context to some screenreaders. If the info given isn't important enough to justify even a superscript letter, then it should be deleted. -- Beland (talk) 02:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@Uncleben85 looping you into this - IMO, efn footnotes might be a compromise. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

The percent retained I'm fine with. I get the argument about screen readers and the span text, makes sense, and efn footnotes is probably the right compromise. However, I do agree, they look so much worse in the table as "conditional^[xyz]" definitely janks it up! The content, however is definitely important enough; deleting it is not an option. –uncleben85 (talk) 21:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@The Kip: Another option could be to add another column to the trade tables, to include conditions and considerations in-line with the trade itself? I personally really do not like the hanging "(unknown)" next to unknown future considerations (as to which most FCs are, as you know!) Like:

January

January 6, 2024	To Chicago Blackhawks Rem Pitlick	To Pittsburgh Penguins conditional 7th-round pick in 2026	Conditions unknown.	<ref>
January 8, 2024	To Anaheim Ducks Cutter Gauthier	To Philadelphia Flyers Jamie Drysdale 2nd-round pick in 2025		<ref>
January 11, 2024	To Buffalo Sabres Future considerations	To Montreal Canadiens Filip Cederqvist	Trade was completed when AHL defenseman Chris Jandric was sent from the Rochester Americans to the Laval Rocket in exchange for AHL defenseman Noah Laaouan.	<ref>
January 25, 2024	To Minnesota Wild Will Butcher	To Pittsburgh Penguins Maxim Cajkovic		<ref>
January 31, 2024	To Calgary Flames Hunter Brzustewicz Joni Jurmo Andrei Kuzmenko 1st-round pick in 2024 conditional 3rd-round pick in 2024               or NJD 4th-round pick in 2024               or VAN 4th-round pick in 2024	To Vancouver Canucks Elias Lindholm	Calgary will receive Vancouver's third-round pick in 2024 if Vancouver reaches the Western Conference Finals in 2024; otherwise Calgary will receive the better of Vancouver or New Jersey's fourth-round pick in 2024.	<ref>