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This is EVula's talk page, which shouldn't be a surprise if you clicked the link...
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Walk t'plank!

		Happy International Talk Like a Pirate Day!
		Ahoy, me hearty! How 'bout a good ol' jug o' grog? RegARRds, Húsönd 16:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you read my message?

I tried reminding you, but it seems you accidentally skipped it. Well, those subpages by TimySmidge will have to be deleted now. Or would you prefer that I tag them with {{speedy}} beforehand? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I did indeed forget to do it. As soon as I wrap up what I'm working on now, I'll take those pages out. Thanks for the reminder. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Voila, pages deleted, user informed of their deletion. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm watching this user BTW in case he/she does it again. I'll let you know of anything. Happy editing! Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikimaina Atlanta meeting

We will be holding a meeting tonight at 9:30pm EDT in #wikimania-atlanta on irc.freenode.org. For more information about IRC see m:Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/IRC. Please try to be at this meeting as it is one of the last ones before bidding ends and we still have lots that need to be discussed. --Cspurrier 19:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I'll be home by 8:30, but I'll try to make it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Humour

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For this great edit summary. Got me LOL. Garion96 (talk) 19:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I hate it when I use a funny edit summary and nobody sees it... makes the ones that are seen all the sweeter. Thanks for the barnstar. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

're welcome. Your seventh good humour barnstar? Geez, I thought I was being original here. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm just a funny guy, what can I say? ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Good faith

Actually, I was warning them for their last edit, and as I looked through their edit history, I ran across the I hope you die comment, and went to WP:AIV to report it, and it got deleted right away because you had already taken care of them.  :) Corvus cornix 20:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, it's fun when everybody is doing the same things at the same time. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering the comments in those edits, I have requested on WP:ANI that User:Burgz33 be indef. blocked. Corvus cornix 20:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Eh? Where's the tie between the Burgz and the IP? EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The IP is claiming to be vandalizing the User pages in order to prove to them that they can't keep Burgz33 blocked. Corvus cornix 21:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, figures. I didn't even read the entire thing. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for removing the vandalism/"hope you die" bit from my talk page. Cheers.--Yankees76 23:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Collection of insults...

That's comedic gold! Collection of threats... sort of morbid. How do you attract these sick freaks? LaraLove 23:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Pretty easy method: liberal application of WP:BOLD to my administrative habits. :)
And, to be fair, a good number of the threats are from this one particular sockdrawer that I somehow got drawn into, so they could have been done more for effect than out of actual anger (though the person was clearly off their rocker to begin with). I do love that section of my userpage, though... if I ever retire from Wikipedia, I'm stripping my userpage down to nothing but a goodbye notice and the insult collection. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Mind if I but in? Those threats are disturbing as well, I've read Jimbo's comments on it; and I agree if you want to keep them up, they're a good read! Phgao 06:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo commented on it? LaraLove 17:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Indeed he did.[1] EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, EVula! Yeah, they set it up Saturday (the day after we moved in), and 3 service calls later, we finally got it working (today, Thursday). I was honestly dying. I don't think one can realize how addicted he/she is to Wikipedia, or the internet in general, until it is not readily available. It was death.  hmwith  talk 17:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I had no clue how much I used the internet. I even had applications that used the internet that I didn't even know used it... and took others for granted. Not knowing what the weather was like for the next week, or what was on the radar, or what traffic was like with just the flick of a button was maddening. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
(incidentally, this is my 666th edit of my talk page. creepy...)

[Cue eerie music]  hmwith  talk 22:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Mistake

You have a mistake in deletion. I am attempting to change these, but I haven't gotten around to it. Please restore them. By the way, they're Dragon Ball articles, not Dragon Ball Z. --TimySmidge 20:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm in tears

I was on TTN's talk page, and you were talking about me. I came here to give a message (this one), when I saw you talking about me. I'm scared and in tears. People are talking about me behind my back and no one's told me. Please keep me in touch. Also, don't ever call me Smidge again. If your going to nickname me, call me "Timmy" (TimySmidge is short for TimmySmidge, my short name and my nickname). --TimySmidge 20:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't talking about you "behind your back"; that insinuates that there was some sort of malicious purpose behind the note I left on TTN's talk page, which there wasn't. It was me coordinating my editing with another editor, which is perfectly reasonable. As for "keeping you in touch", the entire conversation was talking about messages that were already left on your talk page; there isn't much more that could be done to keep you in touch more than that.

As for the deleted pages, they were deleted because you'd resumed editing after you'd had messages left on your talk page asking you to clarify their purpose. In the future, it would be best to respond to talk page comments when you come back.

I'll also refrain from calling you "Smidge" again; it'll just be "Timmy" for now on. I wasn't aware you had a preference; my apologies.

I'll restore the Dragon Ball articles, provided you (a) actually keep working on them (from what I could tell, there were only minor modifications that had been made; unless you're doing an entire overhaul of an article, it's best to just make the edits to the articles themselves), (b) only work on a couple of them at a time (keeping your focus on just a single article at a time will help move everything along faster), and (c) don't restore the Fair Use images again. That was the whole reason that they popped up on my radar at all, and you were unresponsive to previous attempts at informing you of the Fair Use violations that they posed. I'm not going to restore the articles if you're going to keep on ignoring the editors who are removing the images (and, for that matter, the categories). If you can agree to those three items, I'll restore the articles for you to continue working on (though I'd recommend only restoring a couple of them right now). EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Deal. I agree. My apologies for my outburst above. --TimySmidge 21:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Plus, look at my userpage. You'll see what kind of person I am. --TimySmidge 21:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ronnotel

Just so you understand, I'm rather single-minded on admin candidates lately. I've watched a lot of them who are good at mopping up (let's call them janitors), as opposed to one's who are leaders (let's call them admins). I seem to think that admins should be out in the project helping it grow through edits, building consensus where there contentious behavior, and not get stuck on rules. For example, I just dislike WP:CIVIL, not because I am inherently an uncivil human being, but because I don't like a judgement call (what precisely is civility?) being used to silence one editor over another. I do care about an editor who builds the encyclopedia. Ronnotel, based on his writing style and editing, can't be much more than 15 years old. If he is, I'm not sure he should be an admin, if he is older, I am not sure he should be an admin. My thoughts about admin candidates is both consistent and deeper than a few sentences. I respect your edits and what you have done for the project, so I wanted to explain myself to you, so that you don't lump me in with all of the trolls (or worse yet ban me from the project). So I hope you understand. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 21:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Trolls and the newest account, TimySmidge Jr.

What this new user said contradicts exactly what the first TimySmidge claimed. I wonder who is the boy, the father, or is it the same person all along? I'm going to revert their edits on my talk page and the edits they did to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Peter Vogel. But before I do though, it would greatly help a lot if you could share your expertise on this matter before I make any rash decisions. Any additional thoughts EVula? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I read "boy" as more a declaration of gender, rather than age; still seems extremely odd, though (one of the reasons I just archived my talk page was to clear that out of here). The edits made to the SSP page I've already reverted and refactored, so no additional work is needed there. I'm afraid I don't have much more to say on the matter; my experience with sock puppets is rather limited. I'd recommend just letting it run its course naturally; I'm a big fan of giving people the rope to hang themselves with. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I think I'm starting to regret not using WP:CHECKUSER to get the job done quicker. What approach would you had taken instead? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm going to put back the sock tag on TimySmidge's userpage. With what little to no "proof" given, other than an appearance of a mysterious new account and claims such as "innocence", I see that these trolls are just abusing usernames and toying with us at this point in time. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Eh, I'd leave the tag off; getting into an edit war will only serve to exacerbate the situation. I will readily agree with you that the "proof" is exceptionally weak, though. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I made an amazing discovery. I found yet another TimySmidge. His name was User:Harry Potter fan AKA TimySmidge, and even wrote on TimySmidge's talk page "Hello, self". As a user that finally got a user name (I've been on Wikipedia long before this), I will help you with this as much as I can. Keep in touch! P.S. I don't want to be rude, but don't you think "EVula" sounds a little feminine? --ChristianHJH 20:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a sock. I'm having this investigated further. EVula // talk // ☯ // 02:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Help!

I forgot my password! Can you help me? --64.107.161.130 22:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)I'm Really TimySmidge Jr.

I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do to help. Administrators can't retrieve or reset passwords. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Is there anyway my son can still edit as "TimySmidge Jr."? --TimySmidge 22:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Not as far as I know. Did the account have an email address attached to it? EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry about the image on the VeggieTales thing. I forgot. --TimySmidge 22:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Just don't let it happen again. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I got a new username now!  :) --TimySmidge Jr. 22:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Matrix

Howdy again, after my own rather unpleasant experience with an imposter discussed over on Phaedriel's page, I asked Alison if I could use her matrix, but I sat here for hours trying to figure out how to get new accounts I made to it, and I'm not a programmer, I don't know what all the code means, so I just couldn't figure it out. I took a look at your code, and it seems a lot easier, would you mind if I tried to do my matrix with your code, instead? If you don't want people copying it, that's fine, I would understand. Thanks, ^Ariel♥Gold 14:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

By all means, do whatever you want with it. As it is, I took the original code from Lar's matrix. I just added a fair amount of code to make it my own. For example, he doesn't display the local translations of the "user" and "user talk" namespaces, and I've yet to see another matrix with an equivalent to my "Ref." column (though that's not surprising). If you need any help customizing it, just gimme a shout (here or on Meta); I'm also working on Phaedriel's matrix (though admittedly not as far along on it as I'd like). EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't need the Ref column, so I'm not really sure how to deal with that, I'll mess around and tinker with it and see if I can get it to work, lol. Mostly I just change/add/remove stuff and see if it does what I want (normally it doesn't, lol) and keep plugging along until I can get it, or I give up, whatever comes first, lol. But the way yours is, with the individual places to just add "name" etc., well, it was just easier at first glance than Alison's/Kylu's. I'll see how I do, lol. And thank you for giving me permission to use it! (And of course, to Lar as well). ^Ariel♥Gold 15:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Originally, I had the entire matrix hard-coded like Alison and Kylu... then Lar showed me how he did it, and I had to do it all over again. Grr. At least you're starting on the right track from the get-go. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Lol, yeah, having it done this way with the little 'mini tables' inside is awesome, although admittedly, it really threw me off with the two sub-pages I needed. I didn't create those, and whoooo hooo did it look funky without them! Hee hee. (As a side note, why is it Jimbo linked for those pages? And is it okay that I changed it to me?) Anyway, I have it up, although I've not created every page yet, lol. Time consuming, plus making different passwords for each, sheesh, lol. Thanks for your help and letting me use it! ^Ariel♥Gold 22:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you mind

if I use your wiki account matrix to set up my own? — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 15:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

By all means. I apologize in advance for the lack of documentation... perhaps I should write down a bit more than what I've got, since it seems like matrices are becoming more popular.
At any rate, if you have any questions about making yours, just drop me a line (here or on Meta, though keeping it all on meta seems like a good idea). EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

No Brainers?

My vote wasn't necessarily a majority vote if that's what it looked like I was going for. :P To me, a "no brainer" vote includes:

• NO weak supports (like the pointing out of some minor issues that are "not bad enough to not support"
• At least 50 supports.
• NO Neutrals or Opposes, even those that later change to supports.

Of course, these are not what I see as requirements to support. Just the "no brainer" ones; if they're not "no brainers" then it takes convincing for me to vote support. So far I've only given two of those including this one. Is this a poor way of looking at it? -WarthogDemon 22:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

That gave me a well needed laugh. Thanks! --Kbdank71 20:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Hopeshopes

I don't get it. Is this a known troll? Or was some attempt made to engage this editor that I didn't see? --JayHenry 01:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I actually just opened a topic up about this on the incident noticeboard exactly two minutes before you posted here. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

~*Ariel whistles the Twilight Zone theme... Spoooky! *~ ^Ariel♥Gold 01:40, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Ha, I must have checked whatlinkshere from user:hopeshopes about one minute before you started the thread, and then debated for three minutes whether or not to bring it up. I'm a bit sensitive to this sort of stuff -- my first edit was pointless trivia, my second to DRV of all places! (Feel free to use me if you ever need that as an example.) Today, I really think I would have been blocked as an SPA, and I doubt I would have given the project a second chance. I like to think I turned out to be a semi-helpful contributor. I'd maybe explain what happened on hopeshopes talk page, give him a chance to respond. Because of the speed with which that weird script was inserted, I'm guessing he's a kid whose parents have some filter installed on the computer. --JayHenry 01:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say you've turned out just fine. :)
Ilmari Karonen has already asked Hopeshopes what the cause of that was (and asked about a minute after I blocked), and he's yet to respond (I hadn't thought of the parent's protection script idea, and I'm too unfamiliar with them to know if that's a viable excuse or not). I'm gonna wait and get a general reaction at ANI before doing anything else. EVula // talk // ☯ // 01:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Note (to myself, mostly): archived ANI post is at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive303#RfA "vandalizing": an editor I blocked that I almost kinda sorta mildly regret (maybe). General opinion seems to be that the block was justified. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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Your comments

You commented on "List of minor Star Wars Sith characters" AFD, you might also wish to comment on "List of ancient Jedi" AFD, which is where the nom came from. Viperix 07:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I've voiced my opinion there, too. EVula // talk // ☯ //

Inflating wikipedia space edit count

This is just such a cheap way of inflating your wikipedia space edit count. I will so oppose you over that, should you ever run for adminship!!!1! — Please indulge me, it's the evil spirit that dwells in the beer. I should just log out instead of trying to be funny, rarely works out my way. — aldebaer⁠ 23:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha, damn, I'm caught. Hopefully I won't be submitting an RfA for myself any time soon... (a true statement, actually) EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Damn, thanks for having a sense for that kind of humor. — aldebaer⁠ 23:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha omigosh that's too funny! ^Ariel♥Gold 23:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

More socks?

Regarding this section, who is ChristianHJH (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? There was at first a TimySmidge Jr., now there's a TimySmidge Jr (recreated). And recently, TimySmidge (the father?) moved Cars (video game) to Cars (game). Can you revert this per the manual of style at WP:VG? At least now we have TimySmidge Jr.'s ip in case blocking is needed (have you read this ip's edits BTW? They're unrelated to the current user's contributions. Totally strange). Interestingly, all of the Peter Vogel socks stopped with the random re-additions of fancruft to the Dragon Ball-related articles. Why? Can you comment on this? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I helped my son get a new username because he forgot his password. That's why there's now a recreated. --TimySmidge 21:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sig code

I'd definitely be up for the 1st, more readable variation. Thanks, EVula, you're the best!  hmwith  talk 18:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the last variation is even better. Thanks again! hmwith talk 18:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)