User talk:After Midnight

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Image Deletion

I was uploading an image in the sandbox just to figure out how to upload images. And you deleted it before I could add any details. Please explain.

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AMBot

See diff -- Your bot is accidentally removing newlines after category deletions. It would be awesome if you could change it to not do this. If you don't have time, or whatever, email me (I've enabled it) and I'll be glad to help. (I've left a similar note on the bot's page) --Silas Snider (talk) 18:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

To clarify -- the newline deletion is a problem only when done in the middle of wikitext that depends on the new line (lists, tables, etc.), not in general. --Silas Snider (talk) 18:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of the issue and there is an AWB fix pending for it. The edit that you cite is from 2+ weeks ago and I have been watching the usercat edits more carefully since then to reduce the change of occurrence. Ideally, these templates would not be getting subst into user's pages as that would make it easier, but I realize that the bot does ultimately need to handle it. I do expect that the AWB version that corrects this will be available soon. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 18:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: David Beck

Thanks for the catch - I usually check the article's history, but this time it appears that I didn't... GregorB 20:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page where thread started... --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 20:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Best seller no more

So it is. I stand corrected. Thanks :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 22:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I know how it can be when things seem to happen without a reason. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Ammi Burnham Young portrait

Hi After Midnight. Would you please provide some guidance on what is remiss re licensing here? Would you share with me or give a little guidance as to what license you would like to see used? Thanks. CApitol3 18:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Portraits of Vermont Governors

Hi After Midnight. I've found what I hope is a more suitable license. Thanks. CApitol3 18:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Basically, the portraits are not PD. You are taking pictures of the portraits and then claiming that you are the copyright holder. This is untrue; your photographs are considered derivative work. If you want to use these images, you would need to put non-free license tags on them and then apply non-free use rationales for each article that they are used in. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 19:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

A number of the images you tagged are derivatives of pre-1925 portraits so are not in copyright violation. The portraits in the VT State House are apinted as the governor leaves office so this gives a good rule of thumb. Admittedly, some of the images concerned are of post-1925 governors, but not all. I have indicated this on the relevant deletion list, but thought you might appreciate the info Mickmaguire 13:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. If the proper information was added to those images pages, that would be helpful so that they might not be tagged by someone else again in the future. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 22:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I left a message...

I left a message on User talk:Anoshirawan's talk page, with some further advice about how to address the problem that although native English speakers think they know "Afghan" means a person from Afghanistan, people with local knowledge of the reason say that Afghan only refers to people from the most numerous Pashtun ethnic group.

In my comment I made some suggestions, and I suggested that you might offer some further help. I hope you have time to read it. And, if you have any further advice I hope you have time to offer it.

Cheers! Geo Swan 03:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment/Question?

Note sure how to do that. Please give me a step by step. JDS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.218.41.17 (talk) 15:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I ready have no idea what you are referring to. Did I leave you a message that you are responding to? I would be happy to help if you can provide some detail. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 22:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

Sorry this is late, but thanks for the revert done on Nan Kelley. I really appreciate it. Chris 20:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Happy to help! --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 22:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with Delta Sigma Theta Page

Hello After Midnight. I am attemtpting to add some information to the DREF section of the DST page. I not sure how to cite sources and references. I was attempting to post the information first. Then it was my intention to go back and post the sources where I obtained some of the information, before I could do so Miranda deleted my information and said that I copied without providing a source. Well, when I attempted to go back and cite the source to some of the information Miranda deleted my DREF sections again. First, I am not an expert. Are posters given an opporunity to correct or make changes to the information before it is deleted? Even now when I attempt to go back and post the sources with the DREF inforamtion cited she deletes it. Thanks for your help. You can also email me at historicdst@yahoo.com. Also, I post under ueser name HistoricDST (which was created first) and HistoricDeltaSigmaTheta. I was not sure if I could get my account back when I decided to leave initially. Also, if I am wrong can you show me how to cite the sources correctly? Thanks. HistoricDST 23:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, if the information that you are trying to post is a direct copy of something else, you really can not copy it, even if you do reference it. What you would need to do is to paraphrase the information and then reference it properly. I would suggest that you take a look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia and WP:CS. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Typo fixing within reference tags

I agree that there's no particular benefit in correcting capitalisation / spelling of text within reference tags, but since there's also no particular harm, I don't bother to override the 'corrections' suggested by the AWB typo script if other genuine corrections are made at the same time. Thanks Rjwilmsi 22:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted category=broken template

04:08, 23 August 2007 After Midnight (Talk | contribs) deleted "Category:User en-ca-N" ‎ (perWikipedia:User categories for discussion/Archive/August 2007#August 17)

You deleted this category, but when users have {{Babel|en-ca}}, it has a redlink to that category. Please fix the template. – Mike.lifeguard | ^talk 22:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! – Mike.lifeguard | ^talk 23:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hadassa Ben-Itto

The Bookcover of this author has been deleted.

I don't know why.

Can you help restore the image?

Thanks.

Yours truly, --Ludvikus 12:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

• The image was deleted because it did not have a rationale posted. I have restored the image to allow you to post one, but if not, it will be re-deleted in another week. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 12:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

CFD

Ugh... CFD was wrong on this one.... Category:Leporids is better than Category:Leporidae. Please pass any biology categories by some folks at WP:TOL before making these changes.... or at least alert us there is a CFD up that we might be interested in. And please undo the change made. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I actually didn't make the decision here. This was an old CFD which I found which I thought was not implemented, so I did so. The actual decision was made here over a month ago. I have notified the admin who made this decision. Before I take any action, I would like for him to decide how he would like to proceed. Please find that discussion here. It is the bullet saying "Similar action...". --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 21:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:PCD.jpg

Hi. You recently reverted an I9 speedy that I tagged this image with, with the edit summary of "rv - fair use was asserted - please read the CSD criteria that you are using to tag this". I have reverted this because you didn't check the previous content. The fair use summary was for a Buffy the Vampire Slayer image and had evidently been copied and pasted from another image the user had uploaded (which I checked in their contribs). Therefore it remains a copyvio. Seraphim ^Whipp 08:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I need a bit of help

Hey, it's been a while. If you can do me a favor, can you delete all previous versions of my talk page except the most recent one as you did with my user page? If you can, thanks.   •The RSJ•   Talk | Sign Here 22:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Do you mean just the main one or the 3 archives also? --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead with the archives.   •The RSJ•   Talk | Sign Here 21:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

A question

"Miss World USA" - worthy of mentioning in the "notes" section of Miss USA state articles... or not? I thought I'd better get a second opinion before I deleted them all. I am definitely going to be getting rid of "Miss All Nations" and things like that :P PageantUpdater talk • contribs 22:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that representing USA at Miss World is notable, so that person deserves a note, but I don't think that the lower placements are worth keeping. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Image restored

After Midnight, I noticed you (correctly) deleted Image:FRIENDS.PNG after 7 days because it didn't have a fair use rationale. Just an FYI, I've restored the image and added a rationale. I knew you wouldn't mind, but wanted to let you know in order to avoid any appearance of conflict. Thanks, - auburnpilot talk 00:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Works for me. FWIW, I would never complain about someone restoring an image and tagging it properly, but I do appreciate you coming by to let me know. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Mediation Committee

Amen. --Boricuæddie 00:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

If people want to comment on the process, they're free to at WT:MC. Cheers, Daniel 04:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

CFD

Thanks, looks like I missed those. I'd suggest that a dispute about "leporid" be taken to that article's talk page, because at present the cat name reflects the article name. >Radiant< 12:28, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Audrey Daston

I'm at work right now, so I can't just go to playboy.com to confirm something. So, would you mind going there and confirming the spelling of Ms. Daston's last name? The article uses the spelling "Datson", not "Daston", several times and I just want to be sure which is correct. Dismas|^(talk) 03:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done - I've confirmed the spelling and fixed all the instances (I think). Would you believe that it was one of my first 100 edits, and my first page move, to send that page to the proper spelling, but I neglected to change all the spellings in the text at that time. I was such a n00b. :) --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

LOL! We're all n00bs at one point. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 05:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

UCFD for Category:User programmer

Regarding Wikipedia:User categories for discussion/Archive/September 2007#Category:User programmer, I'm concerned about the process followed. I noticed when the {{cfr}} (not cfd) template was placed on the categories, and decided "I don't care one way or another if they are renamed in the stated fashion" so I thought nothing further about it. Then today a bot comes along implementing a "delete" verdict, which causes me to think "WTF? It was supposed to be a rename discussion!". I haven't decided whether I care enough about the matter for WP:DRV, but since one of the steps there is to contact the closing admin, I am doing so now. Anomie 14:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand your concern. When a discussion begins on either CFD or UCFD, sometimes an unexpected result will occur. Sometimes a suggestion to rename will result in a merge or delete and sometimes a delete will result in a rename. At any rate, in this case, the minimal amount of comment (UCFD doesn't always draw very much) was in agreement, so I decided accordingly. If you feel that you would like to have the discussion reopened, I have no problem with you taking this to a DRV to see if there is consensus to reconsider. I am not so hung up on my decision that I would be bothered by whatever the DRV result was. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Recent closure

I am confused about your closure of Category:Wikipedians who use Macintosh computers. No one suggested that all the cats should be deleted, just Category:Wikipedians who use Macintosh computers. (Including Black Falcon, which makes demon's "delete all per Black Falcon" apply only to the single cat as well?) Could you clarify? - jc37 01:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

(Incidentally, I never tagged the operating system cats.) - jc37 01:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Holy cow. That is one of the more stupid things that I have done. I have changed the decision, undeleted the 3 categories (with 1 talk page) and rolled back all of the edits that I could find. Fortunately, I have good edit summaries for my bot, so I think that I got all of them fixed. The categories look pretty well repopulated. Feel free to look things over to make sure I didn't leave anything out or screw things up more. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Let's avoid the word "stupid" and go with "mistaken"? (I personally like the word "oops" : )

And I think you did a good job at undoing it. If anyone was missed, they can always re-add themselves.

Someone else was concerned about this, I'll let him know it's been taken care of.

This aside, hope you're having a great day : ) - jc37 03:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, as usual, for your encouragement. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

A category issue

Hi, some time ago you closed this CfD and deleted Category:User ke and subcats. Now, a friend who was on wikibreak at the time, NikoSilver, tells me he would like it back ([1]). His point, which I think has some merit, is that "Ancient Greek" and "Koine Greek" are sufficiently different that many people would classify themselves as knowing Koine without knowing A.G. to the same extent. I guess this applies especially to many native speakers of Modern Greek, for whom Koine is significantly easier than "real" A.G. Indeed, there are a good number of users who give themselves higher Babel ratings for Ke than for Grc (see besides User:NikoSilver e.g. User:Kimon, User:KRBN, User:Brianbeck, User:Kupirijo, User:KaragouniS).

This has quite a practical significance for Wikipedia: if you seek a fellow editor who can verify a Greek quote from the New Testament for you, you might want to turn to somebody different than if you need someone who can translate a line of Homer.

Is the lack of an ISO code a serious problem? I'm not aware if there is a general consensus that only ISO-coded languages can be Babelised; I guess practical Wikipedian considerations should always take precedence.

I'm not sure this is an issue for WP:DRV, because it's not a procedural challenge of the deletion closure, which was obviously valid. It's rather just an application of "Consensus Can Change". Would you mind terribly if he just re-created the category? We have no standard "official" process for allowing such recreations, I think. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

responded here --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I had also contacted User:Horologium, who had made the deletion nomination, but it appears he still doesn't like the idea, so it might not be fair to just consider the CfD overruled. Should we get some formal input somewhere? What would be your preference, WP:DRV or perhaps just WP:CFD again? Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I read the interchange on Horologium's talk page and I am still in favor of a new category. This isn't some vanity category, such as the California English or some of the others that have been deleted. If having this category will lead to enabling translations which will help the project, I think that it should be recreated. Please let me know if a single category (without levels) called Category:User koine is what you are looking for. If so, I am prepared to create the category and note it in such a way that it will not be subject to G4. As the admin who closed the discussion, it is my right to change my decision based on further input. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 12:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Name "User koine" will be fine with me, or maybe "User grc-koine" or "User grc-k"? I don't know what precedents we have for that kind of sublanguage. I'm not sure whether a single cat rather than a full babel scale would be that useful, though; after all, most users who have the userbox seem to be using it explicitly to compare their knowledge of the one form with that of the other. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I can settle for just one cat (such as 'User grc-koine'). The reason being that nobody actually speaks that variant today; I'd be surprised if even Greek professors would be able to converse strictly within the specific era and not use earlier or later forms by accident. Not to mention, that the era itself is the most transitional era in the Greek language, with the greatest differences from its [conventional] start (~300BC) to its [conventional] end (~300AC). So, IMO, what that category states, is that 'whichever the depth of their knowledge in Greek, those users can understand Koine Greek with relative ease'. That would be equivalent to babel-3, IMO, for all cases, so one cat is enough. NikoSilver 12:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

OK. I'll create the category and put a comment referring to this discussion. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 22:04, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:Closing Rfas

Thank you After Midnight for taking your time in commenting about my edit(s). I have thought about the closure of Betacommand's Rfa, and decided it was unnessary. As for my break, it's supposed to be a wikibunk, but please understand that I did not put up the template because I wanted to sit around and wait for the moment an RFA is scheduled to end and then close it. My understanding was that the Rfa was due at 20:17, 13 September 2007, when I closed it at 03:59, 14 September 2007. Again, thank you for your comment. Regards, --Hirohisat ^Kiwi 04:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm concerned that your message on Hirohisat's talk page may be a bit bity. He/she surely closed the RfA in good faith, especially when you look at his/her message on WP:BN [2], as well as his/her message right above. It seemed unusual, but we all make mistakes, and we are encouraged to be bold when editing, aswell.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I was bity, but Hirohisat doesn't seem like a newbie to me. I was looking to send a message, and I think that the message worked, based on his responses. Notice also, the order of the comments. I will however leave him a final message. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 15:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Then again, why should I bother when I see now that you have already taken it upon yourself. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 15:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining, and I really doubt that he/she would ever do that again. I can count on it. Sorry if you think I was over-reacting.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

And for posting on the talk page. And don't get me wrong. I'm sure no harm was meant on your part.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I just want to point out to you that WP:AAGF, is an essay, not policy. It may one day become a policy, and I'm sorry I failed to assume the assumption of good faith.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:21, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you feel a need to point this out. I don't recall saying that it was a policy; for that matter neither is WP:AGF (it's a guideline). --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 15:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, you're absolutely right. I have bite the newbies in the past, and got a message regarding AGF and WP:BITE. I will try to work on AAGF, at the same time, now. Please accept my apologies for failure to do so.--U.S.A. (talk contribs) 15:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Gosh, no need to apologize. Just relax, have fun, and do your part to improve the project. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 15:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

nonfree content deletions

It seems that you are deleting many nonfree images without rationales where it is unclear that a rationale is needed in addition to the template. (Obvious example is CD cover, where we now have a template rationale, and another may be magazine cover.) Has there been any discussion about these deletions? Calliopejen1 19:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

The images that I am deleting are all ones which are in Category:Images with no fair use rationale as of 7 September 2007, which means that they were tagged for deletion over 1 week ago and that no one supplied a rationale in that time. Even CD covers and magazine covers need these rationales as noted in {{Non-free album cover}} and {{Non-free magazine cover}}. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 19:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Barclay1974.jpg

I'm not sure how this can have been deleted without my being notified. I took a deal of trouble contacting the owners of the band's official website to seek permission for its use, which of course, I obtained. If I got the copyright notice wrong, fair enough, but to have been given a chance to fix it would have helped. --Rodhullandemu 10:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Forget this, I did have a warning but mistakenly deleted it along with a load of other (expired) stuff. Having regard to the above, can the copyright issue be fixed? Thanks. --Rodhullandemu 12:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) OK, it appears that you are referring to Image:Barclay1974.jpg, which you uploaded at 18:13, 8 September 2007 UTC and I deleted per WP:CSD#I4 at 01:42, 16 September 2007 UTC. It was tagged as not having a copyright tag at 19:05, 8 September 2007 UTC by OrphanBot, and you were immediately notified here. You then removed the notification 2 days later as shown here. I confirmed that there was no copyright tag present before I deleted it. Now if you are planning to see that the image is licensed properly, I can undelete it, but you should consider the following: Is the website licensing the image under the GFDL so that anyone can use it or are they only giving permission to use it on Wikipedia? If it is the later, it will still be deleted eventually, per WP:CSD#I3. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 12:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I can still undelete it, but you will need to determine the license that is to be used. It would be best for the wesbsite to release the image under GFDL. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 13:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you very much for your support at my RfA. Regards, Jogers (talk) 09:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

I passed my RfA, and couldn't have done it without your trust and support. Thank you very much. -- Earle Martin [^t/_c] 12:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Template talk:Rfd

I've responded to your concerns. Would you please comment? Thanks. - Mtmelendez ^{(Talk|UB|Home)} 02:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow

How do you mass tag images like on WBBM-TV with Twinkie? ViperSnake151 12:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see WP:TW for general instructions. As for tagging those in particular, I just opened each in a tabbed browser window. Once that is done I clicked on the "di" tab, and then selected "No fair use rationale?", which takes care of the rest. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 14:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Image deletions

Is there currently any procedure for putting a note on talkpages of articles that link to an image that's been nominated for speedy deletion? Alternatively, is there any procedure for undeleting images? The image DangerousLiaisons Screenshot OpeningScene.jpg was an integral part of Dangerous Liaisons and, as one screenshot from a 2-hour film, used for the purpose of illustrating a notable scene, certainly qualifies under fair use - if I'd only known it had been tagged I could have said so! Now it's leaving an unsightly and unnecessary gap in this article. --Zeborah 19:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, in fact, the instructions encourage the user who tags the image for deletion to add a caption to the image to alert the readers of any articles where it is used to its possible deletion. Also, the uploader should be notified. It looks like this didn't happen in this case. I will undelete this image soon and retag it for another week to allow additional time for it to be remediated before it is deleted. This should give you enough time to take care of any rationales, etc. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 19:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much! --Zeborah 03:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

You are very welcome. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 03:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

What's the deal with the deletion? Why don't you just get rid of the image instead of commenting it out?Brian Boru is awesome 20:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Images are commented out as a courtesy to the article writers. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 21:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Category move

Hi, can you stop the move re articles of unclear importance/notability. Seems to be a lot of mess out there. These are massive cats and will take the job queues a while to process, plus there are various processes that utilise them that need to be updated. Rich Farmbrough, 20:43 23 September 2007 (GMT).

Incidentally, there is a current proposal to do away with these categories altogether in favour of "whitlinkshere" solutions. Rich Farmbrough, 20:46 23 September 2007 (GMT).

OK the destination categories are now in place. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 21:00 23 September 2007 (GMT).

Subject to the renewed discussions at CfD.... Rich Farmbrough, 21:13 23 September 2007 (GMT).

I actually hadn't done anything with these since yesterday. I'm surprised that the queue would be affected by this; I thought that I checked that all of them were processed when I made the change, with the help of just a few null edits. I'm sorry if I caused any problems, can you be a bit more specific as to where I erred, so that I can do better next time? --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 21:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The destination categories weren't in place (done). There are also other templates that refer to the categories, to be fixed up ({{articleissues}} at least (done)). The process that updates the chart on the parent category also needs advising of the change (done). Dragonsflight cat tracker may not be functioning, but might need looking at. Documentation needs updating (I have done some of this). Also it would have been good to discuss on the talk page of the parent at, or one of the cleanup projects, since there may be other changes to the name - "topic" to "subject" springs to mind. Most of the articles have now moved across, I am keeping an eye on the old subcats to see when they are empty and can be deleted - or if there are more templates to change. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 10:14 24 September 2007 (GMT).

OK, so while I took care of all the articles that were in the parent cat, I seem to have neglected the monthly children. Thanks for that. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 10:29, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

List of recurring human characters from Futurama

Hello, I see that you removed the images from this page stating that it is an improper non-free image gallery. I thought it was common practice to have images on list of characters pages, is this something that is being rolled out wiki-wide, similar to the removal of images from list of episodes pages, or was this a problem specific to this particular list? Would it be appropriate to have some images on this page? Sorry this is a few days after the fact, any advice for future image use would be appreciated. Stardust8212 13:04, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

It is my understanding that these pages are much like discographies and episode lists. A few images are probably not a problem, but too many make it look like they are there for only decorative purposes, which would violate the non-free usage criteria. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your incredible help with your deletions, I award you The Working Man's Barnstar. Happy editing! --Agüeybaná 03:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Alberto Campos

Hi there, I noticed that you are around so I was wondering if you could attend the article Alberto Campos. I keep requesting speedy deletion but the creator keeps removing and I might not be around for too long to keep reverting. Thanks, take care --Kudret abi^Talk 03:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 03:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

That was fast: ) Thanks very much, take care Kudret abi^Talk 03:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Happy to help. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for taking the time to delete User:Justinmorris/RE-15 :-) --Justinmorris 01:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Happy to help. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 10:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

User Dsrt

• Template:User Dsrt

I was bold and made the userbox changes discussed in the UCFD discussion. I also moved the page. Would you be willing to use your bot to fix the redirect links? (It seems that this is not the first time the page has been moved.) Else, I'll go through and manually fix them later. Thanks in advance : ) - jc37 22:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I started to look at this and I'm assuming that redircets are fine, just double redirects are not. I've fixed the one of those and all the regular redirects should work just fine. While not exactly what you asked, I think that it accomplishes what you are looking for and saves the database a little work. If not, please let me know. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. Though I might have also fixed the single redirects (and then deleted those redirect pages as really unnecessary), as you noted, it's not that important : )

Thanks for your help. - jc37 07:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep. Just remember redirects are cheap. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 10:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

FYI

I stumbled upon this CfD you deleted awhile back. I noticed there are about 700-800 user pages still linked to that category. If there is a bot that can clean up those links, please see if it can be alerted. If not, then nevermind. Regards.--Old Hoss 00:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I bet that there is a template to modify that will kill most of those backlinks.... I'll take a look. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:40, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

There are a couple links left, but 99% are gone now.... --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Flying primates image

As a neophyte trying to get me head around the rules, can you explain why the image flying_primates.jpg was deleted from the "Flying primates theory" page? There was an associated text explaninig that the image was not copyrighted and that its creator had no objections to it appearing in Wikipedia. What would be the appropriate licensing arrangement in that case?

Fluminense 11:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)Fluminense 27 Sept 2007

The image was deleted because it contained no image copyright tag. Please see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for more information regarding requirements in this area. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC).

OK, I tried to figure this out so the image was back, but couldn't do it. Basically the owner of the image has stated that he is happy to release for use in Wikipedia, but this does not appear to be allowed as a valid copyright arrangement (the image was tagged for "speedy deletion" after I added what I thought was the proper tag. Any suggestions regarding the appropriate tag? The exact text of the reply email exchange is:

Q: Jack, is the drawing of the flying primates theory (in allegorical form, as branches of a tree) that is in your web page copyrighted? If not, would you object to have that picture uploaded to a non-profit online encyclopedia (Wikipedia)? A: It is not copyrighted. I had the drawing commissioned by Schouten, so it belongs to me. I have no objection to it appearing elsewhere. All the best, Jack

Are you saying that you recreated the image? I don't see any record of that in the logs. In fact it looks like you have never uploaded an image and that the original image was uploaded by a different user. At any rate, there are only 2 options that I see. 1) Tag the image with a non-free copyright tag and make a rationale of why the image may be used even though it is not free. 2) have the owner of the image release it with a GFDL licence, making it a free image and tag it as such, also likely requiring an OTRS email. Finally, please note, that images can not be "used with permission" per deletion criteria WP:CSD#I3. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 10:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

No, I am trying to help my dad (who did the original upload) to figure it out. We would appreciate if you could have a look at what we did now, and if this reflects the proper conduct. This is all sounding too hard, and it is a pity because the image completments the page really well and the owner of the artwork has stated he does not mind it being released elsewhere. However if for whatever technical reason this can't be done we will leave it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fluminense (talk • contribs) 00:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Star Trek: Odyssey page image deletion

I see that this image was deleted for some reason by you, though I'm not quite sure why the image that was here was deleted, also not sure on how to restore the image since I believe the image was deleted incorrectly. Please advise on how I should proceed on this from here, and why the image was deleted in case I'm not understanding the reasons for it. BeoHF 22:32, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

The image was deleted because it contained no non-free usage rationale. Please see WP:NFURG for more information. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

No 7 day notification was given to anyone however, and the image was a creation of the Odyssey team, and uploaded by the Odyssey team, there being the rationale as a promotional material image of the production. Please advise on how this image can be restored. BeoHF 17:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. Let's see how the facts check out here.... The image was uploaded by User:Scooby Doo47 at 02:04, 27 July 2007 UTC. It was licensed with {{Non-free poster}} and the only text with the image was "Teaser Poster/Pic from Star Trek: Odyssey", which does not qualify as a rationale. The image was tagged for deletion on 09:44, 20 September 2007 UTC by User:Pd THOR. If you click on this link [3], you will see where Pd THOR notified Scooby Doo47 that the image would be deleted in 7 days. No further action being taken following that, I deleted the image at 01:41, 28 September 2007 UTC. Now, as far as how the image can be restored.... I will do so, but I will keep the image tagged for deletion. You, or anyone else, will have 7 additional days to remediate the image with a rationale, but if you fail to do so, it will again be deleted. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 03:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmph. I can provide the image with a rationale upon its restoration. The upload was not from the Odyssey team then, though I originally thought it was. Thank you. BeoHF 20:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It is all ready for you now. I restored it when I made my prior response. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 21:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you replaced the speedy deletion tags. I've amended the image again. I think it is now in a condition to be left alone.. although perhaps I'm just not quite grasping exactly what I need to do and why the image is causes so much of a ruckus. As you can imagine this is getting to be somewhat frustrating. BeoHF 23:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks good now. Thanks for sticking with it. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Activity

I believe is its time to be deleted, it was never adopted is only fair. Anyway thank you for letting me know about it. Greetings. John Manuel - 00:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

CHADS image

Why do you delete such an image when the authors have given it for use by wikipedia? You are expected to use discretion to promote quality of Wikipedia articles and not be an automat who deletes everything you don't lile. YOu've detracted from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.120.126 (talk) 15:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the image because no one provided any license tag or source information. If you, or someone else, is willing to correct this, I will happily restore the image. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 18:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Speedy close of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Protected titles/Specific Admin

Hi, can you illuminate me on your speedy close of the above MfD? The argument was that the pages were a violation of the protection policy. I'm not sure why you're saying that the forum was incorrect. Regards - Videmus Omnia ^Talk 18:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Any of the 3 forums that I mentioned would, in my opinion, be a better place to discuss a change in policy than MFD would be. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 18:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see the misunderstanding. I'm not asking for a change in policy, I'm saying that the pages are a violation of existing policy. Could you re-open, please? Videmus Omnia ^Talk 18:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I knew what you meant, but didn't express myself clearly. There are many other pages like these, such as Wikipedia:Protected titles/Twinkle‎ which seem to be well endorsed. As a result, the policy as written may be ambiguous and require further discussion. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 19:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

OK - do you mind if I ask at WP:ANI for a review of your speedy close? I still believe that the MfD is the place to discuss these specific pages, which I think are pretty unambiguous. Any needed policy change can probably be discussed elsewhere. Videmus Omnia ^Talk 19:13, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

DRV would probably be better as the place to discuss having my close reverted. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 19:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Unless you think I acted in bad faith, in which case ANI may be better. (But I can assure you that while we may disagree here, I think that we are both acting in good faith.) --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 19:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe you're acting in good faith also, we just happen to disagree, that's all. Nobody ever disagrees on Wikipedia, right? ;) Videmus Omnia ^Talk 19:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm familiar with WP:DRV - I'm really just looking for a quick third opinion on whether I should take it there. No need to clog up DRV with something obvious unless absolutely necessary. I'll drop a note at WP:ANI - thanks for your time. With respect - Videmus Omnia ^Talk 19:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've listed it at WP:DRV here. I probably should have listened to you and listed it there first, there likely would have been less drama. Regards - Videmus Omnia ^Talk 02:30, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Um, yeah, noticed that. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

*cough*

Afta Midnite (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Rolling eyes smiley and all that... HalfShadow 00:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Marilyn Hanold - FYI

Just to let you know, I posted a message on the anon's talk page about blanking out info on their "mother's" page. In that message, I directed them to WP:OTRS since I'm not sure if they know about the article histories. Dismas|^(talk) 01:40, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought about that, but used the edit history since I didn't know if they had a static IP address. Good idea to have the message in both places. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

They edited the same article in basically the same way a couple days ago and it was also from the same IP. Figured it would reach them on the IP's talk page. And for what it's worth, you beat me to the punch by a few seconds on the revert this last time. Dismas|^(talk) 03:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. We are making a good pair. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems so, indeed! Dismas|^(talk) 21:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

National Teenager

Hi! I haven't been in touch lately (been focussing on my own website so have had little time for Wikipedia) but I just thought I'd pick your brain and alert you to a potential issue. I just found Miss Wisconsin National Teenager and have prodded it. You can read my reasons on the talk page... just wondering whether you can check it out and see whether you agree with my actions. I just don't think that pageant (at least on the state level) is notable enough for individual articles... particularly after the individual MAOTeen state articles were deleted.

Hope all is well with you. PageantUpdater talk • contribs 06:13, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. If MAOT Wisconsin is not notable, Miss Wisconsin National Teenager can hardly be so, either. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 11:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi I just noticed your question on this, and do appreciate you suggestions on the Wisconsin National Teenager page. I do hope you read the discussion section. I posted some articles on the pageant, and explained why there aren't more (renovated newspaper websites is mainly to blame with very short archives). MAOT for Wisconsin was not in need of its own website or notable because it has only been around for three years - wonderful system but not much of a history to write on. So many small MAOT articles did not make sense. National Teenager on the other hand is one of the longest running teen pageants in the state of Wisconsin as well as the country. I believe the longest running is Junior Miss at 50 years. Also many former Wisconsin National Teenager queens have gone on to be very successful in Miss Wisconsin USA as well as Miss Wisconsin, for instance - Meghan Coffey, Tracy Gest, Jena Schulz, and Maria Kim to name a few. If you would like more information, please feel free to contact me. --Pageant Girl —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 00:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

October 1

Well, it's about time... But I think I'll wait until tomorrow. (Confused? Wait and see : ) - jc37 09:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

My guess is that you are going to put in the request for AMbot to tag all those categories that I listed for you back a few weeks ago. Am I a winner? --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 11:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

It would seem so : )

The Special Barnstar - A special award for a "special" winner : ) - jc37 (Talk) - 11:42, 30 September 2007

• A good guess barnstar? ;) --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 14:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

  Sure, why not? : ) - jc37 00:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

  OK, cool. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Ready when you are : )

See User talk:AMbot/requests. - jc37 11:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, starting on it now... --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 03:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you : ) - jc37 10:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

No fair-use rationale

Hi there. I noticed that an image that I changed the license tag for got speedy deleted because I forgot to add a use rationale. Would you mind undeleting so I can add the rationale? Thanks. Carcharoth 11:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

 Done - I've set out the date another week to allow you time to get that added now. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Carcharoth 13:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Another thank you

I don't know if I mentioned it already, but the 48 hour before archive seems to be just about perfect. Thanks again for that. Even though you're basically doing all the archiving atm, we should probably document "how-to" somewhere in case others might want to help. Any suggestions? - jc37 10:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I did actually think about that a while ago and I think I go stuck trying to decide where to put them. My 2 thoughts are 1) at the top of the UCFD page where the link to the archives is and 2) at Wikipedia:User categories for discussion/Archive. Any preference or other ideas you may have are welcome. At this exact moment I think I am leaning towards #2.... --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 10:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Makes sense to me (especially considering that there's already sort of an explanation how to archive already on that page). Another thing that would be nice would be to jump forward or back a month while on an archive page (similar to how you can go forward or back a day at CfD). Though I don't know what code/templates are used for that. - jc37 11:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

 Done and  Done --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 21:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Um, wow, that looks great! : ) - jc37 07:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Alemannic or Albanian?

As a result of Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/August_2007#Category:User_als_and_subcats and [4], many users of {{user als}} are now lost without any category, neither Category:User als-N, Category:User als, Category:User swg nor Category:User gsw.-- Matthead ^discuß!     O       01:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello. I think that the problem may be that the users of {{user als}} is being used for Alemannic German, which has 4 ISO 639-3 codes, which are 1. gct — Alemán Coloniero, 2. gsw — Swiss German, 3. swg — Swabian German and 4. wae — Walser German. So the question is which of these is proper for each user. It is possible that a gsw speaker may not want to be classified as wae or other similar issues. Maybe the box should have 4 options to let each user choose the one they want. Do you have any suggestions? --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, there is "D’alemannisch Wikipedia" at "http://als.wikipedia.org/", and "http://sq.wikipedia.org/" is for Albanians, I presume. Does the CfD affect them, too, does anyone want to change the subdomains? I think "als" is really needed for many users, the deletion is wrong IMHO. gct and wae will hardly be picked by anyone, while the remaining swg only suits people in Württemberg, and gsw only those in Switzerland. This leaves millions living along the Rhine, Liechtensteiners, Austrians in Vorarlberg, the many Germans in Baden and the speakers of Alsatian language in France without an appropriate code. Why not "ISO 639-2: alb (B) sqi (T)" for Albanian, there is Category:User sq already, and the interwiki of course. For subdivisions, "variously: sqi — Albanian (generic) aln — Gheg aae — Arbëreshë aat — Arvanitika" are free if needed. I think ISO got it wrong here, with wasting "als — Tosk" for a subdialect instead for the general Alemannic and the current interwiki. I'm confident that the less than 3 million Tosk speakers are outnumbered - surely in terms of Wikipedia users. de-Wiki has 647.711 Artikel, als-Wiki has 3.132 Artikel, that is only 0.5%, yet still roughly the size of the whole sq-Wiki which has 17.446 artikuj, covering also an independent country. One would expect a Tosk Albanian interwiki with 80 artikuj or so then. Has anyone ever asked Albanian editors if they are interest in it at all? -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       03:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you have quickly exceeded my ability to be able to help here, I think. I closed the discussion based on the arguments; I have no personal knowledge of these languages. May I suggest that we move this conversation to WT:UCFD? If we put it there, I think that we are much more likely to get people who understand this better than I do to help you work out a solution. If you would like me to, I would be more than happy to move this entire conversation there on your behalf. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, please do so. -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       14:43, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, it is here. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:The Galileo Affair Cover.jpg

Just a FYI: Someone offered to provide a ratonale for the image (I ended up putting one in myself), and since you only deleted it for lacking such I just went ahead and overturned your deletion of it rater than doing the custumary "ask deleting admin to undo" round trip. Hope you don't mind. --Sherool (talk) 20:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You did the right thing. I am happy to have any image restored as long as it is remediated. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ref desk question

I know you don't normally hang out on the Wikipedia references desks but would you mind responding to this question for me? I guess I could copy and paste it here but I also wanted the question/answer to be centralized. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 21:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Agüeybaná

I've answered your question there. I hope my answer is satisfying. --Agüeybaná 17:20, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians in the Freemasons

Could you point me please to the discussion which resulted in the category's deletion? The link you provided [5] makes no reference to this category. Thanks - Rklawton 20:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind - found it. Rklawton 20:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

The archive hadn't yet been moved over, which is why that link is at the top of the archive to point users to the live page. Hopefully you found it that way, if not, I would be happy to have suggestions on how to make it more prominent. By the way, it is there now. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 21:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ancient Land of Bosoni

"Private picture" isn't a an acceptable rational for pictures is it? Because User:Ancient Land of Bosoni is removing the "no source" tags claiming their private (also leaving a nice note on my page besides.) -WarthogDemon 01:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

It is possible that by saying "Private picture" they are claiming that they are the source. I would suggest that you encourage them to be more specific. "Along with a tag, specify the source or copyright holder information. Provide as much detail as possible." is from the applicable guideline at WP:TAG. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Homophobia

I noticed that you participated in the recent CfD of the category "Homophobia" [6]. It has been re-nominated for deletion, on the same grounds as before, and I was making sure you had an opportunity to present your interpretation of policy on this matter. The discussion can be found here. Best. --Cheeser1 14:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Relisting

I see you've relisted several. What do you feel was missing to determine consensus? (For example, would it help if I shifted from neutral in two of the discussions, or clarified that I don't oppose deletion in the other two.) - jc37 19:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Mostly some of these have been discussed before, so unless the consensus is more clear, I was hoping to get some additional discussion. Certainly, you still have the ability to sway things, but I am not specifically looking for you to do so. Among other things, while I could probably render a decision now if required, I would like to attempt to avoid DRV, and there is no harm in waiting 5 more days, I think. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 19:53, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I can understand that. Taoism was the main surprise to me. Anyway, it looks as if the page will remain a "long page" for awhile longer. : ) - jc37 19:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I could have probably actioned that one, but I just (lazily) kept all 4 of them together. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:13, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of user subpage

Hello, you have recently deleted this page: User:Bearly541/Userbox/Ebayaddict. Your comment was CSD U1, but I don't think this user ask himself to delete because his last contrib was on January 2007. This page is also transcluded on many user pages. Could you restore this page? At least inform others users that the "template" has been removed. Thank you. Martial BACQUET 20:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The user did in fact ask for this to be deleted and I honored that request. I won't restore the page, but if you want me to put the contents somewhere for you to create your own userbox, I will do that. Please just let me know. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Queer Wikipedians et al

Hi, AM. Could you clarify your reasons regarding the "strength of arguments" for the user categories "Gay Wikipedians", "Queer Wikipedians", etc? I recognize CfD's aren't votes, but counting the !votes comes to 6-6, with reasoned argument from both sides. Thanks, -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 03:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I second this. I find it discriminatory and offensive that you deleted the psychiatric condition categories for they can be quite enlightening but there at least you were reflecting consensus in the discussion as there were no supporters aware of the discussion going on. In case of the sexual orientation categories you acted against expressed community will. Proper judgement would have closed this as no consensus and left the categories intact as they have been kept before. With admins like you, almost no user categories will remain. I think you ought to apologize for this destructive behavior: Roman Czyborra 09:45, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Many of those favoring had arguments of "bias" (as the comment here by Roman Czyborra) or of "stop trying to delete these", neither of which seems a "reasoned argument" to me. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 10:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

If you are going to start a statement with "I know CFD's aren't votes...", it's probably not a good idea to end with "... but I counted the votes and you're wrong". It's contradictory, and doesn't lend any strength to whatever argument you're trying to make. (Just one closer's opinion.) --Kbdank71 15:22, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

why did you get rid of my links?

On my profile you got rid of links to my forums, the servers are blacklisted but not themselves, my forums have not done anything, but there is one at the top that wasn't mine though.-hotspot

I had to do a null edit on your user page to clear a user category. In the process, I could not save your page because of the spam filter, so I cleared the links that it was complaining about. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Sexuality and gender identification categories

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Sexuality and gender identification categories. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Kolindigo 15:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

WWF LOGOS

Why did you delete the WWF logos on WWE page? Hardcore Hak 18:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Hardcore Hak

If you tell me exactly which image you are referring to, either by giving me a link to the image or the article it was in, I can check to be sure, bit most likely, it would have been deleted for not having a non-free usage rationale, per WP:CSD#I6. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

They were on the WWE article. They were known as "WWF logo's" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardcore Hak (talk • contribs) 12:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I did delete 3 images on that page. They were Image:OriginalWWFlogo.jpg, Image:Oldtymewwelogo.jpg, Image:WWF Attitude Logo.jpg. Each one was tagged for deletion on October 1 , and I deleted them 7½ days later. The issue for each image was that there was no non-free use rationale, which is required for all non-free images. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 23:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

I am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my recent RfA, which did not succeed. I will attempt to get more experience in the main namespace and the Wikipedia namespace and will try again for RfA in two month's time. One of your concerns was I had no record of interactions with other users. This is not entirely true. I prefer to interact on IRC, however I have had a fair amount of interaction with other users on my and my bot's talk pages as well as my bot's false positives page. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi^(t|c|b|cn) 07:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Please undelete an image?

Hi there. I was wondering if you would undelete this image [7]. It's a U.S. book illustration from 1895 and is actually Public Domain. The uploader just had it tagged incorrectly. Actually, it looks like the uploader did have it tagged as PD. Uploader owns the magazine and scanned the cover, so that's the source (see summary [8]). Thanks! The Parsnip! 04:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The uploader did put some text there, but did not what was in the edit summary (no mention of PD) and it did not have a tag. I'll restore it and push the expiry out 72 hours to allow time for it to be tagged properly before anyone should try to delete it again. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 09:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thank You Note from Jehochman

		Ready to swab the decks!
		Another motley scallawag has joined the crew. Thanks for your comments at my RFA. Arrrgh! - - Jehochman Talk 05:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

HELP ME MIDNIGHT!

I am blockerman200 and I have posted articles before, but they keep getting deleted. I want to post an article on a local author in my hometown named Evan Sackett who was jusr recently published. I was wondering if you could help me post a legit article on him so it won't be deleted. I would really appreciate it. Blockerman200 12:28 13, October 2007(UTC)

What kind of help are you looking for? --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 20:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Humble requests

As I have never run a bot on Wikipedia. I have no idea how much work it entails to perform it's tasks (ie how much is automated, and how much involves the user). So while I love the idea of having bots, I always am hesitant to ask (because if it's the same amount of work as to do it manually, I can do it myself, rather than burdern someone else with the task, though it's time consuming).

Anyway... I have a request on Ambot's talk page, and I have a request if you would tag all the subcats of Wikipedians by website.

I'll have a few more large noms (as I'm sure you may have guessed by now) but I would like to wait for the page to clear out a bit first.

Thanks again. - jc37 09:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay.... I've responded about the new bot request at that thread. I'll also start shortly on the subcats of Wikipedians by website. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

No worries, and thank you : ) - jc37 10:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Embrace (UK band)

Hi there, I notice that a while ago you moved Embrace (UK band) to Embrace (English band) after User:172.189.4.168 did a cut-and-paste job from the former to the latter. This change appears to be a bit of political POV-pushing by that user (see his/her other edits) and the general concensus (at the United Kingdom talk page at least) is that "UK" is the correct term for people or entities from the United Kingdom (we have UK citizenship, not English, Scottish, or Welsh citizenship) unless there's a specific reason for doing so, such as a historical context. Could you change it back? Cheers, Miremare 00:09, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello. When I did that move, I wasn't actually moving it, but rather, as you noticed, was repairing the improper cut/paste move. If this move is disputed, I would feel uncomfortable reverting it without further discussion, since, unless it was vandalism, it would probably be better handled at WP:RM. I will note however, that since no one has touched the redirect since I created it as part of my maintenance, you can boldly write over that redirect yourself, as per WP:MOVE#Moving over a redirect, and if someone takes issue with that, you can always refer to WP:BRD and take it to WP:RM later. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't know about that. Done it myself then! Cheers, Miremare 01:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Furry Wikipedians

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Furry Wikipedians. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GreenReaper 16:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Furry Wikipedians

By my count, there were two delete votes, one of them being the nominator, the other a completely explanation-less "per nom". There were five keep votes, all with lengthly explanations. How, exactly, is this any consensus other than 'keep'? (And I would have voted keep, but had no idea it was up for deletion! needs to be some way of notifying people in categories...)

"Decision based on strength of arguments" ... What strength? Only the nominator (of the two people for deleting it) even made an argument, while all of the keep voters did. "precedent and the cited DRV" ... The precedent of being kept every time, and the DRV overturning a non-discussion-based deletion?

I'll try to assume good faith, but really, how many times will this be out-of-process deleted? Please restore it and save everyone the hassle of yet another DRV. Thanks, Bushytails 06:14, 17 October 2007 (UTC).

Proposed disambiguation

Hi, could we disambiguate Gerhardt so that it reads Gerhardt chassis (or something like that)? See the list below:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Gerhardt

All the best, <KF> 23:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Makes sense to me. I say go for it. 1) Create an article for Gerhardt chassis (or similar) 2) change the links that you identified to point directly to the new article 3) add the new article to the existing dab page. Just make sure that the new article is notable and sourced so it doesn't get deleted. I think that you can do all this without administrative assistance, but if you need additional help with the writing or technical aspects, please let me know. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I've copied this to Talk:Gerhardt, hoping that someone will do the job. This is not my area of expertise. <KF> 01:56, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello

This is random, but you edited a page on my watchlist. I just want you to know that I like your username, because of its Eric Clapton reference. SashaCall ^(Sign!)/_(Talk!) 02:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for dropping by. Feel free to drop by anytime you wanna let it all hang down. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Wikipedians by active status. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --evrik ^(talk) 14:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Shinigami eyes

I can't say whether the past images had their stuff in order but this current one not only has proper copyright tagging but also the necessary rationale for non-free use (illustrating a significant plot point). What concerns me is that all of the previous images were deleted with the same reason on the same day with no apparent history of having been tagged and now this one is also tagged linking to the CSD for images despite it not fitting at all. There's no discussion on the discussion page, no warnings that I can track down, and no justification. I can't even find anything related to it on your contributions page or who uploaded it. To me none of this adds up, especially if the other images were as far from the CSD as the currently tagged one is. Given the speed and uniformity with which the images were all immediately deleted without any traces, tagging, or discussion I figure either someone is trying to be a little orwellian or someone's bot had a bad day. --Superslash 02:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The issue is that the image has no non-free usage rationale. Someone removed the tag from the image page, which is probably why it appeared that there was no warning. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 03:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of seleucuscoin.jpg

I feel as if my image seleucuscoin.jpg has been unfairly deleted, as the following images, obtained from the exact same source AFTER May of 2005, are still being maintained here:

• Image:Solidus-Justinian_II-Christ_b-sb1413.jpg
• Image:Half follis-Justinian I-sb0165.jpg
• Image:Solidus-Justinian_II-Christ_b-sb1413.jpg
• Image:Claudius_EXSC_PP_OBCIVES.jpg
• Image:RSC 0022.jpg

If indeed I have used the wrong tag, then I shall change it. If I am unable to maintain this image, then I request all of the other images from CNG Coins be speedily deleted as they are exactly the same as mine in the interest of fairness. Thank you. Monsieurdl 03:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly the same.... I checked 3 of the images you listed and they are in commons, no on wikipedia. Also, they are licensed with OTRS confirmation, which your image does not have. You may feel free to follow the same process for yours if you like, however, the version that I deleted was tagged with an invalid license. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 03:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I found a replacement image... it is mind-boggling to me how others can upload at will under an all-encompassing banner, which seems unfair. I know it is not you, but the horrid system. Thanks for being patient with me, the struggling historian! Monsieurdl 04:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Curious

I'm curious as to how you're weighing the comments by Marlith and Allstarecho. - jc37 04:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I've been giving no weight to WP:POINT boiler-plating of comments. If I had more time I might warn them to not disrupt the project. If you think that I did take make an error on one, let me know, but I think that all my decisions would be the same as if their comments were not there. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 04:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. There were a few that would be questionable (or at least no consensus) if we counted votes (smile), but none that I would strongly disagree with your interpretation. (Just because my personal opinion may tend towards inclusion, doesn't mean that that's how a discussion should be closed. : ) - jc37 05:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Image deletion question

Hi, I think I messed up the usage rights information when uploading File:Brisbane Independent School tree logo.png. I believe this image to be owned by the Brisbane Independent School of which I was an office bearer at the time I uploaded the image. Can it be undeleted please? Also how should I show the usage rights correctly? Could you reply to Talk:Brisbane Independent School please? Regards RowanPatterson 04:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)