User talk:OlEnglish

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Glad you enjoyed them, and please feel free to categorize as you see fit! Cheers, Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 16:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

123,456,789th edit

Actually, I did know I made the edit, and it is something I am actually very proud of. I tell it to all my friends and I even have it listed on my facebook profile. Talk:Kanab_ambersnail#90.2C000.2C000th_edit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgp688 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Goat Star

		The Goat Star
		For contributions to Caprinae Solidarius Lance Corporal William Windsor salutes you!  Chzz  ►  21:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

As the first person to edit the article after creation, you are recipient number 1 of this award. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  21:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

This is now documented in User:Chzz/Recipients of the Goat Star.  Chzz  ►  21:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

lol! I'm honoured :) -- OlEnglish ^(Talk) 22:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Answer to your comment

Technically, you must have been tricked by me, since your signature can be found here. --Muzekal Mike (talk) 02:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I just realized that :) That's why I said keep. -- OlEnglish ^(Talk) 03:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The Last Question

I noticed you reverted my edit to The Last Question, restoring the link to a site which contained almost nothing except an illegal copy of the story, violating WP:ELNEVER. I don't want to start an edit war, but this is pretty cut and dried. Kufat (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Tis a shame... it's a really nice site.. really complements the article well. But... the law's the law. -- œ^™ 19:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which succeeded with 56 in support, 12 in opposition and 3 neutral votes. I am truly honored by the trust that the community has placed in me. Whether you supported me, opposed me, or if you only posted questions or commented om my RfA, I thank you for your input and I will be looking at the reasons that people opposed me so I can improve in those areas :). If you ever need anything please feel free to ask me and I would be happy to help you :). All the Best, Mifter (talk)

Mifter (talk) 23:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome. -- œ^™ 23:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

TotD

On my entry at the TotD Talk page you wrote:

Good tip, but I don't think the several different-width hr's surrounding the title are necessary, I can see how it illustrates the point but it makes the page look 'broken'. -- œ^™ 13:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the "tip", œ! All but one rm'd  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  15:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy to be of service. :) -- œ^™ 02:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Concerning Talk:Philomena

OI English,

May I ask you a question?

In the discussion-page of Saint Philomena I've added some details after recearch, however, some comments have been added that contain some glaring errors. If I address these directly, I may start a war, and so incur an R3 block. How do I address them without being pointed?

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support.

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, next time, please don't edit my userpage. Post any messages for me here, this is my talk page. :)

With regard to Philomena, first off please be aware of Wikipedia's policies on original research, and neutral point of view. I assume you've read these very important pages?

Question: Are you posting as Filumenae (talk · contribs)? Sorry for asking, I'm not accusing you but please also be aware of Sock puppetry policy.

Regarding the comments, whatever it is you want to address go ahead and do it as long as it's on the talk page. If you're posting on the talk page and not changing the article directly you don't have to worry about incurring an R3 block, so address away! Discuss any changes you want to make first and if you get consensus then all should be OK!. ;) -- œ^™ 01:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me OI English.

No, I am not any thing other than "MacOfJesus". Filumenae uses the word "honor", I would say "honour": She said she is webmaster for her society.

I am very timerous of progressing on that road as I may be drawn in the mire of "tit-for-tat".

Sorry for leaving a message on your main page,

Regards.

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

By "talk page" here, do you mean "the discussion page" of Saint Philomena"?

Regards,

MacOfJesus (talk) 21:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes.

On another subject completely:

I noticed your honour re the goat:

Did you know that the goat will not eat anything that the human has touched?

MacOfJesus (talk) 23:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh really? Why is that? -- œ^™ 08:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Coming from an agricultural background, we know these things. We have to be careful in feeding the goat in winter.

Also from the Gospels, when Our Lord spoke the parables re the sheep and goats, the shephard would send in the goats first then the sheep to pasture, as they eat different things, and goats don't tend to churn up the soil with their hoofs. In very hot countries the sheep and goats have to be brought to fertile pasture and then to the well for watering.

Thanks for your help. (I left the message on the talk page, hope it will be OK.)

MacOfJesus (talk) 11:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

In the evolutionary ladder, goats and sheep are perhaps the widest apart. You have only to look at the difference of their eyes! If a goat eats something you have handled it will either spit it out or get sick. Perhaps there is a site in Wikipedia for animal husbandry that can throw light on this.

MacOfJesus (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Have found the site "Animal husbsndry" and left the question on the talk page!

MacOfJesus (talk) 16:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: your edit summary

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/42ers Basketball Team

The article in question has been deliberately written in a humorous manner by the editors. It is not a serious attempt at an article, more like a deliberate parody of a Wikipedia article. The "sources" are invented and the idea that any article that makes a claim that "Currently the 42ers are negotiating with Latrobe City for the naming rights of the new court, with 42ers Stadium and Fort 42 the preferred options at this stage" is laughable. I repeat, this article is a parody of a Wikipedia article, and a rather well done one at that. Your failure to understand that is mind-boggling. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 11:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh, is it really? I don't know.. it doesn't sound like such a ridiculous claim.. I admit I don't know anything about the subject. Are you saying I was taken in by an elaborate hoax? That the editor(s) were taking advantage of my assuming good faith? That would be a trip! Wikipedia never ceases to entertain me. -- œ^™ 11:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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Almost without a doubt a parody. I have an advantage in being able to spot it as I too played in a (championship winning!) B-grade amateur basketball competition in another town in Victoria, Australia and as such I know that there is no way the local paper would provide any coverage at all to the team (other than in a table of scores towards the back). Even in our championship match, the "crowd" consisted of wives and girlfriends and the municipal authorities would never have considered naming a stadium after a bunch of amateur sportsman more interested in a beer after the game than any glory! I mean, is it really plausible that the City of Latrobe would name their municipal stadium after these guys!

It isn't quite a hoax as I am sure the team exists but the claims to notability are invented and the supposed "sources" ingeniously provided to look plausible on first glance. It's all a bit of fun but I was a little surprised to see people take the article so seriously. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 06:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Heheh, well I guess being from Australia you would know better. My sympathy for the underdog got the better of me, I feel a little foolish now. :) But it was a learning experience. -- œ^™ 06:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd really appreciate your input

What do you think of Template:Drug policy? I just created it, but I thought I'd leave it a few days till it goes live, as it perhaps has a few kinks. Such as being a little unwieldy... (please reply on the template talkpage) Anxietycello (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Answered on template talkpage. -- œ^™ 06:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

sig

You changed your sig ... cool ... I like it! (and thank-you by the way ;)) — Ched :  ?  00:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

WARNING

Any and all changes made to any and all pages related to Abercrombie & Fitch Co. pages are for LEGAL REASONS, and are absolutely necessary. Should these changes be deleted or repeatedly altered, Wikipedia may face litigation regarding the validity of the information being posed in regards to A&F on its sight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anfbp (talk • contribs) 00:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No legal threats. --œ^™ 00:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

"on its sight"... funny. I would hope real corporation legal teams can spell! Verbal chat 19:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Linking

Dear OIEnglish, I placed recently some additions to the main site of Saint Dismas. However, I would like to add some "linking" to the other main sites in Wikipedia. I think it would be helpful. However, I don't know how to do it. Am I able to do it now? I am aware of over linking.

MacOfJesus (talk) 17:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

To make a wikilink, enclose the selected word in brackets: (eg. [[example]] becomes example ). For more information: Help:Link. -- œ^™ 17:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Dear OIEnglish,

Thank you. It worked.

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sin (rapper)

i see you have disputed this article, can you please elaporate on what parts of the article you are disputing so changes can be made.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.230.250 (talk) 19:14, June 25, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't disputed it, I wasn't the one who originally placed the tags there. I merely replaced the tags you removed without any explanation. Read my edit summary in the article's history. -- œ^™ 05:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Shortcuts that are English words

Is the category not intended to be comprehensive? Anomie⚔ 18:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Meh.. I guess it could be. The way I've been maintaining it is to just keep it to simple common English words, and try to avoid plurals that are duplicates, ie. they both go to the same page.

Not that it's a vital category or anything.. but it panders to my incessant need to organize and clean things. :) --œ^™ 20:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

{{Technical}} edits

Sorry I didn't get around to this earlier, but it's done now. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks. -- œ^™ 16:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Requested move of The Score Group

You should withdraw this requested move. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks):

• Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official":
  • avoid: REALTOR®, TIME, KISS
  • instead, use: Realtor, Time, Kiss

Oren0 (talk) 02:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Thanks for pointing me to that; obviously there's still a few areas of the MoS which I've not read. I've noticed though that that guideline isn't very consistent as I've come across many cases where the article title follows capitalisation that the subject defines as their 'official' name (that sometimes being a lower-case first letter, in which case {{lowercase title}} is used) and noone makes any huff about this part of the MoS. Anyway, I will withdraw citing Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) as the reason. -- œ^™ 05:41, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

<OlEnglish slaps himself with a wet trout> Even my own sig is trademarked! Duh me. :) -- œ^™ 05:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Eh, it happens. I wouldn't worry about it. Your point about lowercase titles is interesting, given article titles such as iPod and iPhone. Oren0 (talk) 08:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

On second thought, MOSTM addresses this as well. "The following guidelines represent a consensus that compromises between the preferred treatment of a trademark owner and the rules of standard written English... Trademarks beginning with a one-letter lowercase prefix pronounced as a separate letter do not need to be capitalized if the second letter is capitalized, but should otherwise follow normal capitalization rules" Oren0 (talk) 08:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Silly_Things#External_links

Wikipedia_talk:Silly_Things#External_links.--Otterathome (talk) 10:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied at talk page. -- œ^™ 11:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Reply

Thank you for the welcome. :) About twinkle: I enabled it in my prefs, and when I tried using it, it said I was too new to use it. But I'll use it after I'm autoconfirmed. Thanks! --Midnight Comet (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedian of the Day

Congratulations, OlEnglish! For your kindness to others, your hard work around the wiki, and for being a great user, you have been awarded the "Wikipedian of the Day" award for today, June 29, 2009! Keep up the great work!
Note: You could also recieve the "Wikipedian of the Week award for this week!

Happy editing!

Midnight Comet 14:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thank you. -- œ^™ 16:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for the barnstar, it is good to be appreciated. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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Cleanup Barnstar

OE, I am extremely appreciative of the Barnstar that you bestowed upon me. It really means a lot. Might I ask how you came to give it to me? I am puzzled because I don't recall running into you on any of the pages I have edited. I have one idea of what might have prompted it, but it embarrasses me to think that that could have been the inspiration for your gift. Could you enlighten me? I'm so puzzled. Unschool 21:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, well after reading your userpage I noticed your contributions and saw that you haven't got it yet and were very deserving of it. I totally support your commitment to cleaning out the Category:Cleanup by month backlog, otherwise it will just grow and grow beyond manageability. I have always believed that now that Wikipedia has enough quantity of articles, equal and sufficient effort must be made to improve the quality of existing articles and help remove these unsightly tags. They go ignored far too often by too many editors and to find someone that takes the time to do at least one cleanup a month is refreshing and leads me to re-dedicate my commitment to this project. Plus as you can probably tell from the recent posts above I was in a very giving mood that day. :)

How I came across your userpage in the first place I don't quite remember.. it might have been via Special:Random/User but I'm not sure.. maybe Recent changes?. Or.. most likely it was when your name came up on an edit to one of the pages on my watchlist and I just impulsively clicked on it. :) I'm curious now.. what is it that you were thinking was my inspiration? -- œ^™ 22:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I was correct; apparently you navigated to this user page of mine. I guess I'm a bit embarrassed because it would be very easy to interpret the creation of that page as being a deliberate ploy to be given exactly such a Barnstar as you have given me. But that really wasn't what it was for; it was for what I said on the page it was for—just a personal record of work of which I'm proud. Anyway, thanks for looking at it, and I'll now be sure to redouble my efforts. My goal from here on out will be to try to do two cleanups a month, so as to be truly deserving of your kind gesture. I really, really appreciate it. Cheers. Unschool 02:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup Project

BTW, what do you think about the idea of reviving Wikipedia:Cleanup Taskforce but focusing it on just Category:Cleanup by month? One idea might be to assign one or two articles per month to a participating editors' "desk" for them to work on for that month. This might help with cleaning out the backlog. The most recent attempt at revival it seems is here but without much success. -- œ^™ 00:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I was unaware of the one-time existence of this project. I'm definitely interested in something like this. Here's some thoughts right off the top of my head.

• Membership would ideally be conditional, with conditions such as:

1. Agreeing to a statement that, to this particular editor, article cleanup was their primary mission on Wikipedia. This would keep the unenthusiastic from signing up; I've seen many projects whose memberships consist of people who seem to want only to have another userbox on their user page. Or maybe there could be two types of members; the hardcore who are devoted to cleaning up, and the moral supporters who might occasionally take on something they are interested in doing.
2. Each member-editor would be required to have an article on their plate at all times, posted somewhere in their user space. I would like him to have a goal of when his or her work on the article would be done posted as well.
3. Members would be told at the outset that this would be no priesthood, meaning

• There are no life-long committments; anyone should feel free to drop out whenever it no longer floats their boat to participate, and
• Members should not feel like anything they're doing gives them any special privileges regarding articles. WP:OWN not only still applies, but we should be grateful for anyone that comes along to help

• I also like the idea of keeping a list of articles that have been cleaned up, in a central location in Wikispace. And the tag on the talk page of the cleaned up articles is a great idea.
• No one would assign pages to an editor; each editor would pick his current project from Category:Cleanup by month, from any month or year he wished. This would be necessary to have enthusiastic participation.
• I would like to have a new name of the project. What? I don't know.
• BIG COMPLICATED IDEA: I would like to have some kind of a grid (I don't know if it would be on the article talk page, or a separate cleanup page for the article (which it looks like they may have done before) which would evaluate the state of the article in several key areas, perhaps like the following:

1. Formatting (Sectioning, reflists, etc.)
2. Quality of prose (including reducing lists within non-list articles)
3. Documentation/Sourcing
4. General aesthetic appeal
5. Lead section

The reason for this multi-faceted evaluation is that oftentimes an editor is particularly comfortable with one area of cleanup, but not others, and he may be unable or unwilling to do it all himself. For example, I put a phenomenonal amount of work into Dikir barat (close to eight hours), but part of the reason why it was so difficult for me was that it had been listed as needing sources, and I was (and still am) very inexperienced in properly formatting references into an article. I would have loved to have had a partner in that effort.

Okay, well that's all I can think of now. Looking back at it, I think my expectations may seem somewhat arrogant. That's not my intention, and I hope you'll tell me honestly what you think of these ideas. Unschool 05:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I think these are excellent ideas! and I did not get an impression of arrogance at all but rather of competence and an enthusiasm towards a worthy vision. If you would take the lead in kick-starting this new project I would support it ancillarily in whatever way I can, as just like a theoreticist vs. an engineer, I'm good with ideas, but actually creating the framework is something I'm not good at. :) I am good at formatting references though so I can help out that way. I can also recruit members and be an active participant. -- œ^™ 05:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comments. Give some time to think some things through. I've never been part of anything like this before, so it'll take some thinking. Also, on July 11 I'll be heading into the mountains and will have no access to electricity for at least a week. So my goal will be to have something ready to go by the end of the month. Thanks for the inspiration. Unschool 05:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok! Shall I post a notice at Wikipedia talk:Cleanup for some feedback or to see if maybe we can get others interested? -- œ^™ 05:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You are certainly free to do so, but from my perspective I think I want to have something more solid to present before we try to recruit. I want to write up an essay and a project page with a framework before "going public". This is a wiki, so I respect that it will only get better with additional help—however, I am hoping that a more-complete plan will a) engender more enthusisasm and optimism (as you note, it has already failed twice), and b) have a better prospect of surviving; I am going to be gone soon for over a week, and I'd like to be able to participate daily as it evolves. (Does that sound selfish?) But you are a free agent, OE, unbeholden to me or anyone else, so I don't expect or want to tie your hands. Unschool 06:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: De-orphan script

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