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Questionable range quotes

There are all sorts of ranges claimed for the various versions of the missile. These need documentation. As an example, the -8E is claimed to have a range of six kilometers in the article, while Jane's Armour and Artillery 2007-2008, p. 309, only credits it with a 4-km range. As well, sinodefence.com mentions the 4-km range for the -8E and -8L models and a 3-km range for -8A and -8C models. Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 17:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The main advantage the Israeli had when they developed a laser beam riding version of the TOW was a massive increase in range. With wire guided missiles, you are pushing your luck beyond 4,000 meters. Main reason is the wire that spools out. The longer the range the more wire you need and the harder it is to pack to where it will un-spool right. That has always been the main reason the Germans and French (ie the French with the US Hellfire laser homing antitank missile) gave as to why they had to replace the HOT instead of developing an improved version with longer range. They can't get a wire guided HOT beyond 4,300 meters. Also the Chinese have replaced the antitank missile which the HJ-8 is based on with a laser beam riding missile that looks like the Israeli MAPTAS which is a TOW where the wire guidance is replaced with laser beam riding. There were reports that the Pakistanis asked for a small lot of TOWs that Raytheon privately developed that replace the wire guidance with a radio command link. I would bet we will soon see a longer range HJ-8 which replaces the wire guidance with a radio command link that that their engineers reverse engineered (ie copied) from the TOWs they obtained from Raytheon. Jack--Jackehammond (talk) 21:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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	There are all sorts of ranges claimed for the various versions of the missile. These need documentation. As an example, the -8E is claimed to have a range of six kilometers in the article, while ''Jane's Armour and Artillery 2007-2008'', p. 309, only credits it with a 4-km range. As well, sinodefence.com mentions the 4-km range for the -8E and -8L models and a 3-km range for -8A and -8C models. Cheers, [[User:W. B. Wilson\|W. B. Wilson]] ([[User talk:W. B. Wilson\|talk]]) 17:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)<br /><br />		There are all sorts of ranges claimed for the various versions of the missile. These need documentation. As an example, the -8E is claimed to have a range of six kilometers in the article, while ''Jane's Armour and Artillery 2007-2008'', p. 309, only credits it with a 4-km range. As well, sinodefence.com mentions the 4-km range for the -8E and -8L models and a 3-km range for -8A and -8C models. Cheers, [[User:W. B. Wilson\|W. B. Wilson]] ([[User talk:W. B. Wilson\|talk]]) 17:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)<br /><br />
	~~'''Wilson''' I don't buy it.~~ The main advantage the Israeli had when they developed a laser beam riding version of the TOW was a massive increase in range. With wire guided missiles, you are pushing your luck beyond 4,000 meters. Main reason is the wire that spools out. The longer the range the more wire you need and the harder it is to pack to where it will un-spool right. That has always been the main reason the Germans and French (ie the French with the US Hellfire laser homing antitank missile) gave as to why they had to replace the HOT instead of developing an improved version with longer range. They can't get a wire guided HOT beyond 4,300 meters. Also the Chinese have replaced the antitank missile which the HJ-8 is based on with a laser beam riding missile that looks like the Israeli MAPTAS which is a TOW where the wire guidance is replaced with laser beam riding. There were reports that the Pakistanis asked for a small lot of TOWs that Raytheon privately developed that replace the wire guidance with a radio command link. I would bet we will soon see a longer range HJ-8 which replaces the wire guidance with a radio command link that that their engineers reverse engineered (ie copied) from the TOWs they obtained from Raytheon. Jack--[[User:Jackehammond\|Jackehammond]] ([[User talk:Jackehammond\|talk]]) 21:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /><br />		The main advantage the Israeli had when they developed a laser beam riding version of the TOW was a massive increase in range. With wire guided missiles, you are pushing your luck beyond 4,000 meters. Main reason is the wire that spools out. The longer the range the more wire you need and the harder it is to pack to where it will un-spool right. That has always been the main reason the Germans and French (ie the French with the US Hellfire laser homing antitank missile) gave as to why they had to replace the HOT instead of developing an improved version with longer range. They can't get a wire guided HOT beyond 4,300 meters. Also the Chinese have replaced the antitank missile which the HJ-8 is based on with a laser beam riding missile that looks like the Israeli MAPTAS which is a TOW where the wire guidance is replaced with laser beam riding. There were reports that the Pakistanis asked for a small lot of TOWs that Raytheon privately developed that replace the wire guidance with a radio command link. I would bet we will soon see a longer range HJ-8 which replaces the wire guidance with a radio command link that that their engineers reverse engineered (ie copied) from the TOWs they obtained from Raytheon. Jack--[[User:Jackehammond\|Jackehammond]] ([[User talk:Jackehammond\|talk]]) 21:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /><br />