Talk:Rare groove

i redid this page, probably not as much info as in the original like you said said maceo but yeah i added a couple more artists, someone seems to have gotten rid of th elists for no reason, the lists of artists i tihnk are very helpful for people trying to get into the music, as it gives them a base for hunting for new music, so please stop getting rid of the lists and things whoever does it. 121.217.153.133 (talk) 11:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I don't know who did it, but who ever you are, thanks for bringing back the Rare Grooves page. From what I've seen of the page it appears to be quite more advandced since the first Rare Grooves article, with a longer list of musical artists. The first paragragh is a bit shorter than that of the original, but I'll add information when I come across it. I hope this article can develop further in the future, as Rare Grooves are a type of music I hold close to me and would like this artical to be maybe no longer a stub (what does that take?).--Maceo (talk) 17:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

What the heck happened?

Where did this article go? It was so good originally, then it was deleted, restored to a lesser page than it's original form, then shortened to just two sentences!! What is the deal here!!?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandalorian NerfHerder Maceo (talk • contribs) 08:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

External Link for Rare Groove mp3 needs to be commercial because of licensing issues with torrent sites that are non-commercial

I am proposing adding an example of a rare groove digital library that sells rare groove in mp3 formats rather than vinyl as referred to in the article. There was a list of 3 rare groove record stores here as well but they have been deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kary247 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

The one you have repeatedly added is commercial, has a shopping cart, and sells MP3s. We do not ever add commercial links like this for any reason. Our external linking policy specifically prohibits links to "web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services" (WP:ELNO point 5). If you have a non-commercial site to propose, it will of course be considered. Yworo (talk) 22:45, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

• website links to subject and is licensed - many sites are torrents sites that breach copyright so cant be placed on wiki copyright - I want to embedd and audio file too.

The website links to the subject - rare groove is available in digital formats. Before you deleted the external links here, there were vinyl records as well. Rare Groove is rare because it is hard to source. The advent of licensed digital formats allows this genre of rare and expensive groove music to be more accessible. Unlike a lot of torrent 'free and non-commercial' sites, this site is properly licensed under UK conventions - I am finding it hard to find a site with mp3 rare groove that doesn't just rip music off from the poor artists. I would argue that in this case a commercial site is warranted because of copyright issues connected to music sites that are non-commercial.

I was also hoping to embed and audio file as a sample of rare groove - perhaps I could put an audio file in the article next to the line about new digital formats - that would be fun for the user to listen to and a table? --Kary247 (talk) 00:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Please read and comprehend WP:EL, WP:NOTLINK, and WP:NOTDIR. I don't think you're getting this. There is no requirement that an article have external links. Many articles do not. If there are no links that comply with our policies, we simply don't list any links. We do not direct traffic to anybody's commercial site. If you don't believe me, ask over at the external links noticeboard or at WikiProject Spam. If I posted a notice at the latter, half-a-dozen uninvolved editors would come over here and also say "no". Yworo (talk) 03:31, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

• So the difference between the link I am placing and the external links on deep funk would be? See deep funk links below:

--Kary247 (talk) 06:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is never a valid argument on Wikipedia. Those links need to be reviewed and many of them may need to be removed. Also, please don't copy the links here, I can see them just fine on the article. Yworo (talk) 14:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Compromise- Suggested re-wording

I think you are being a bit strict here - because of the issues of included an external link to wiki for peer to peer torrent sites - copyright etc- I need to reference a commercially licensed rare groove mp3 site - the point being that this new technology has made the genre more affordable and available to the masses - hence the oxford dictionary in 2008 included the term 'rare groove'. This is the suggested wording.

Vinyl records that fall into this category generally have high resale prices. Rare groove records have been sought after by not only collectors and lovers of the types of music, but also by hip hop artists and producers.[3] Commercially licensed rare groove mp3 is more affordable and new digital technologies[4] allow users more affordable access to the genre, this affordability has brought about a resurgence of the genre in recent years, as evidenced by the inclusion of the term 'rare groove' in the Oxford dictionary.