Talk:Hister

I can't vouch for the part about modern-day Istria and the claim that that region's name is related to a former belief that the areas was watered by the Danube; I just left it in from the previous version of the article. – B.Bryant (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

'Hitler'

Would misklona kindly stop posting a misleading version of this article that leaves out most of the evidence and gives the impression that it refers to Adolf Hitler? Yes, I grant you he has improved the French quotation and translation (sorry, didn't notice that!), and it's intriguing to see a photo of the infant Hitler, but since it has nothing to do either with the river Hister or with Nostradamus's verse, posting it alongside the title is, frankly, a piece of sheer disinformation. The picture belongs in the 'Hitler' article (where it is already), not here. --PL (talk) 16:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Please stop pushing your nonsenical point of view agains hard facts: Hister is a well known name of Adolf Hitler in the Nostradamus work. To deny this is ridicilous! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misklona (talk • contribs) 19:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

On the contrary, Hister (as Nostradamus himself explains in his Almanach for 1554 -- have you even bothered to read it?) is a name for the river Danube, as the article explains and demonstrates, and has nothing to do with Hitler. Only the uninformed popular press claims anything else, on the basis of propaganda claims originally made during World War II. Please refer to the reputable sources listed. Not one of them makes this lurid, hoary old suggestion, and most of them specifically refute it. In addition, the original 1555 edition cited (have you bothered to consult this, either?) gives fluves, not fleuves, and camp, not champ, while verse II.20 (have you actually looked at it?) contains no reference to Hister whatever. The translations, admittedly, are discussable, but please stop posting incorrect, unsourced rubbish. --PL (talk) 11:57, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Nostradamus predicted swastika

Nostradamus not only predicted Hitler, the Antichrist (together with Napoleon), but also precisely described swastika and looting that his "Arian" forces did with their typical barbarity (as it turned out). This is common interpretation that has to be mentioned. Velici (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC).

That would have to be in a separate 'alternative views' section, backed up by reputable sources -- none of which, to my knowledge, agrees with your assertions. To insert them without such academic backup would be 'original research', which is banned by Wikipedia in its articles. --PL (talk) 09:03, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Hitler=Hister

This is a prominent theory, that keeps getting downplayed by a blatant anti-Nostradamus revisionist. Prophecies denial has place in its own section, together with other fringe french "research"Velici (talk) 11:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Then create your own 'prominent theory' section, citing reputable sources to back it up -- and making sure that your textual facts are facts. --PL (talk) 16:49, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Vandal PL needs to restrain himself

PL, who only makes edits to Nostradamus related articles, has a clear conflict of interest here. He thinks he owns this article. Also, he puts his unencyclopedic OR and blatant POV into article, making essays in favor of his strong revisionist view. It is only due to obscurity of the topic that this vandal menages to destroy this article for a while, resorting to not only blatant non factual speculation in his "writting", but to personal attacks to all that do not support his agressive posturing in Nostradamus related articles.