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:::Perhaps I lack your perspicacity: "what is occurring on this page" is not clear to me at all. Remember that it was you who added information to the page without citing a source. As a Wikipedia contributor you have to accept that other contributors will challenge your edits. I didn't revert your edit. I left a message on your Talk page requesting a source, per [[WP:BOP]]. You have provided sources, which is all I wanted. Now your sources are being reviewed. This is how good-faith collaboration works.—[[User:Biosketch|Biosketch]] ([[User talk:Biosketch|talk]]) 21:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC) |
:::Perhaps I lack your perspicacity: "what is occurring on this page" is not clear to me at all. Remember that it was you who added information to the page without citing a source. As a Wikipedia contributor you have to accept that other contributors will challenge your edits. I didn't revert your edit. I left a message on your Talk page requesting a source, per [[WP:BOP]]. You have provided sources, which is all I wanted. Now your sources are being reviewed. This is how good-faith collaboration works.—[[User:Biosketch|Biosketch]] ([[User talk:Biosketch|talk]]) 21:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Biosketch, of course it is useful to questions edits, and as you will see: when you asked me for a source, I provided more than one. You will see that "Plot Spoiler" seems to want to say that no of the sources are reliable. What are your thoughts about that? [[User:GoetheFromm|GoetheFromm]] ([[User talk:GoetheFromm|talk]]) 21:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC) |
::::Biosketch, of course it is useful to questions edits, and as you will see: when you asked me for a source, I provided more than one. You will see that "Plot Spoiler" seems to want to say that no of the sources are reliable. What are your thoughts about that? [[User:GoetheFromm|GoetheFromm]] ([[User talk:GoetheFromm|talk]]) 21:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::::I also want to emphasize the point that if actually follow the wiki links to Hind Husseini you will see that it makes direct reference to the Deir Yessin Massacre and setting up of an orphanage that Miral is fictionally associated to. This is how it became first evident to me that it was necessary to add the Deir Yessin Massacre. It was only afterwards, have done a google search that I discovered the film's, the director's, and others' direct reference to the Deir Yessin Massacre in reference to the film. To me, that is good wikipediying. Best, [[User:GoetheFromm|GoetheFromm]] ([[User talk:GoetheFromm|talk]]) 21:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Citing sources
There seems to be a group of individuals who seem to want to avoid including the reference of the Deir Yessin Massacre despite the fact that was one of the reason why the orphanage in the film was instituted. It is explicitly mentioned by the film director as well. I realize that this film is turning out to be contrevesial to many. But readers are entitled to know the background and reference of the film that they are watching. GoetheFromm (talk) 20:49, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Please do not jump to conspiratorial conclusions and make collective references to editors that imply WP:CABAL. Wikipedia policy at WP:BOP states clearly: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." When adding the Deir Yassin text, it was necessary to include a reference making it possible for other editors to verify the source of the claim. Please note that saying "It is explicitly mentioned by the film director" does not meet the criteria of WP:BOP unless there is a WP:RS to go along with it. I am examining the sources you referenced to evaluate their validity.—Biosketch (talk) 21:05, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- @Biosketch: No conspiracy implied, it quite clear to me what is occurring on this page, as I am sure others can also see. GoetheFromm (talk) 21:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps I lack your perspicacity: "what is occurring on this page" is not clear to me at all. Remember that it was you who added information to the page without citing a source. As a Wikipedia contributor you have to accept that other contributors will challenge your edits. I didn't revert your edit. I left a message on your Talk page requesting a source, per WP:BOP. You have provided sources, which is all I wanted. Now your sources are being reviewed. This is how good-faith collaboration works.—Biosketch (talk) 21:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Biosketch, of course it is useful to questions edits, and as you will see: when you asked me for a source, I provided more than one. You will see that "Plot Spoiler" seems to want to say that no of the sources are reliable. What are your thoughts about that? GoetheFromm (talk) 21:31, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- I also want to emphasize the point that if actually follow the wiki links to Hind Husseini you will see that it makes direct reference to the Deir Yessin Massacre and setting up of an orphanage that Miral is fictionally associated to. This is how it became first evident to me that it was necessary to add the Deir Yessin Massacre. It was only afterwards, have done a google search that I discovered the film's, the director's, and others' direct reference to the Deir Yessin Massacre in reference to the film. To me, that is good wikipediying. Best, GoetheFromm (talk) 21:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps I lack your perspicacity: "what is occurring on this page" is not clear to me at all. Remember that it was you who added information to the page without citing a source. As a Wikipedia contributor you have to accept that other contributors will challenge your edits. I didn't revert your edit. I left a message on your Talk page requesting a source, per WP:BOP. You have provided sources, which is all I wanted. Now your sources are being reviewed. This is how good-faith collaboration works.—Biosketch (talk) 21:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- @Biosketch: No conspiracy implied, it quite clear to me what is occurring on this page, as I am sure others can also see. GoetheFromm (talk) 21:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
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