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Thanks. --[[User:SesquipedalianVerbiage|SesquipedalianVerbiage]] ([[User talk:SesquipedalianVerbiage|talk]]) 09:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== This article is clearly biased and insensitive == |
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In fact, I think it displays gross indifference to human suffering and loss of life. Consider the following quote from it: "The TORCH report might be alarming but 4 kBq/m² of Cs-137 only gives an external gamma dose of 56 μSv per year (which is close to nothing, a 1 in 356000 chance of death due to cancer)." A 1 in 356,000 chance of death may seem insignificant to a person who gives it no thought. But this chance is being applied to approximately 120,000,000 people, with the result that about 400 people will wind up dead. Saying this is "close to nothing" is tantamount to saying human life is irrelevant. A random serial killer taking lives with these odds would be the object of a massive manhunt. |
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== Nature references == |
== Nature references == |
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We propose to add the observation that TORCH has been reviewed by the Low Level Radiation Campaign and to provide a link out to the review.
This comment is provided by me, Richard Bramhall of LLRC. I don't at all like the anonymity of Wikipedia and the way it hides the authorship of tendentious and downright inaccurate entries. I intend to be openly identifiable and emailable at bramhall@llrc.org
- It doesn't hide it at all, it keeps whatever information is possible. I.e , the ip address. Anything beyond that is pretty much unenforceable. Also, on talk pages it is helpful if you type four ~ characters in a row at the end of your post as this will mark it with the date you made the post, as well as your username ( or ip address if you don't have an account ) allowing others to see who made the comment. 137.205.236.51 12:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, you should have a passing look at Wikipedia:Introduction and most of all at WP:Verifiability. The anonymous character is a detail when you're co-writing an encyclopedia with thousands of contributors, which makes the notion of "authorship" quite irrelevant. This is a collective work, and thus the only way to avoid "tendentious and downright inaccurate entries" is by citing sources, which you can easily insert in the text through Footnotes. Cheers! Lapaz 15:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have added a refernce to the comment made on the LLRC site, I think that it is clear that the LLRC have a dim view of the TORCH report.Cadmium
- Actually, you should have a passing look at Wikipedia:Introduction and most of all at WP:Verifiability. The anonymous character is a detail when you're co-writing an encyclopedia with thousands of contributors, which makes the notion of "authorship" quite irrelevant. This is a collective work, and thus the only way to avoid "tendentious and downright inaccurate entries" is by citing sources, which you can easily insert in the text through Footnotes. Cheers! Lapaz 15:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Low Level Radiation Campaign criticisms - Notable and neutral?
Hi,
I've removed the following as it is a self-published (not peer-reviewed) critique by a self appointed group that itself may be non notable. These concerns and others need to be addressed before it is replaced.
Criticisms
The TORCH report was reviewed by the The Low Level Radiation Campaign who commented that it was "a theoretical review of a small part of the evidence accrued in twenty years since the Chernobyl disaster" According to the LLRC review[1] "It reveals consistent bias in that it ignores or under-reports crucial developments in radio-biology", and ignores a large volume of evidence from Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine.[1]
Thanks. --SesquipedalianVerbiage (talk) 09:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
This article is clearly biased and insensitive
In fact, I think it displays gross indifference to human suffering and loss of life. Consider the following quote from it: "The TORCH report might be alarming but 4 kBq/m² of Cs-137 only gives an external gamma dose of 56 μSv per year (which is close to nothing, a 1 in 356000 chance of death due to cancer)." A 1 in 356,000 chance of death may seem insignificant to a person who gives it no thought. But this chance is being applied to approximately 120,000,000 people, with the result that about 400 people will wind up dead. Saying this is "close to nothing" is tantamount to saying human life is irrelevant. A random serial killer taking lives with these odds would be the object of a massive manhunt. ghh 13:50, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Nature references
Current reference 6 and 7 linking to Nature appear to be broken. EthicsGradient (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)