User talk:Kumioko

Kumioko is editing as User:108.28.162.125 05:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Kumioko, I know you're familiar with WP:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point, so can you please not disrupt Wikipedia to make a point? Either take a break from editing or don't, but please don't troll us as an IP. 28bytes (talk) 17:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

That wasn't me. That IP as well as .58 are Proxy Ip's for the Navy used by tens of thousands of people. As surprising as this might be and as much as some may wish they were, most of the edits that come from those 2 IP addresses are not and never have bene me. Even though I was accused of it and the assumption was made that I am the only one in the Navy to edit here. Also, I haven't even looked at WP except to change my template from Semiretired to Retired. The only reason I even knew about this message is becausse I got an Email notification on my phone. This message is all the more reason I don't need to edit here anymore. Its obvious that any edit made from this IP will be accused of being me so its better I just stay away. One last note, I just checked and any IP from 138.162.0.0 - 138.162.255.255 are related to the Navy or Marine Corps so feel free to assume they are not me or you might end up blocking a whole lot of good editors for no reason. 138.162.0.45 (talk) 19:50, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

AN discussion

Your edits are discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Fram. Fram (talk) 10:25, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Blocked

Kumioko, I have been extremely patient here, but the current situation is no longer tenable. I asked you nicely to stop trolling as an IP, but it appears you have no intention of doing that; indeed, you seem proud that you can summon multiple IPs to continue to cause pointless drama with new IPs even while blocked for causing drama with other IPs. You know perfectly well what block evasion is, so I see little choice but to block this account until you agree to knock this off. I have turned off the Wikibreak Enforcer so that you can log in and comment here if you like. 28bytes (talk) 17:25, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

First I want to clarify one thing and I want this to be understood. I was not evading a block. I set the Wikiproject enforcer myself so this isn't block evasion. Its also not sock puppetry. I made a few meaningful edits as IP edits. No big deal. One or 2 editors are upset because some were to Wikipedia space. So what. Doesn't change anything. I also wanted to clarify that making edits as an IP does not make me a troll. The edits were valid and other than the comments on the IP talk page between me and BMK there wasn't any trolling involved. I made valid comments on discussions as an IP. Its not my fault that Ken has a burr in his ass about me editing.

Aside from that, my reputation on this site was already ruined over the last year because some blockhappy admin decided to ignore policy and block the user they felt like rather than the one that broke the policy. So now, I don't really care if I get blocked or not frankly because the community has already repeatedly spit in my face and told me that I am not trustworthy and not wanted. I tried to show them they were wrong but it became clear that was never going to happen so I got tired of fighting it. So now you can just chalk me up as another editor that was and could have continued to be a great asset but instead was screwed over by the community and decided to leave. I may continue to doan edit from time to time as an IP but Kumioko is for all intents and purposes is dead here. You all killed them. And by the Way the 138 IP series you blocked belongs to the Navy so when you block it you are blocking a lot more than just one user. Several hundred thousand actually. But I am sure you don't care about that because Wikipedia doesn't need anymore users right? Kumioko (talk) 18:42, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

(ec)BTW let me be a symbol of all that is wrong with the toxic culture in this place. How a once (I think) respected editor who was passionate about the project and beleived in its purpose can be completely changed by being shit on by the community enough times. No matter how much an editor does to try and make this place better in the end where just a number and a piece of trash to be thrown away whenever the community feels like. If only the community would treat each other with some respect instead of constantly telling them how shitty they are and how untrustworthy they are we could accomplish so much. I would have and could have edited for a long time had I been treated with an once of respect but because I am not nor will I ever have the admin tools I am just a piece of trash to be shoved down and treated like a second class citizen. Screw this place. I'm sorry I ever started editing. I met a lot of great people here but the culture here is despicable. Kumioko (talk) 18:57, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

At this point, the only "burr up my ass" about you is that you apparently think you are in all respects above all rules and policies here, and can do anything you damn well please, the theory appearing to be that because Wikipedia is broken, you can do what you want. You appear to have an extremely high opinion of yourself and your views, which, in retrospect, probably led to your downfall and loss of reputation, not the actions of admins or other editors. You appear to me to be highly unsuited for a collaborative project of this sort. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:09, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

You are partially right. At this point I may not be suited for a collaborative project like this because I actually wanted to build an encyclopedia which apparently stopped being the priority of a majority of the users here over time. Now its more important to be political and move pawns around than to collaborate. So you are correct in that respect. You are still missing the point though. I was highly collaborative. I restarted WPUS, started a newsletter, restarted the collaboration and tried to get people to work together for years. All the while trying to cater to all the complaints in a respectful way. But guess what. A lot of editors didn't want to collaborate. They took my questions about wanted to collaborate as a hostile takeover. They screamed and cried and fussed and complained. Dragged me to ANI repeatedly. Started all kinds of discussions and eventually I said the hell with it and gave up trying to make those projects work. No one wants them so why would I continue to waste my time. I thought hell I know how to work in a lot of areas. Maybe I'll request the Admin tools and help out at some places like editing protected templates, CCI, or the various other areas that are always behind and screaming for help. Guess what, they didn't want my help and told me they didn't trust me enough to have the tools. Ok fine, so now I just edit some discussions occassionally, maybe revert a vandal of fix a typo and I'm labelled a troll, a sockpuppet and block evader because I edited as an IP. Ok fine again. Now my accounts blocked, the IP's are blocked and I am not allowed to edit at all. Also fine. This is how Wikipedia treats people. I have seen it to many many editors over the years. We treat people like shit and wonder why so many editors are leaving and why people aren't joining to be editors. Well this is why. Because after years of faithful service this is how their treated. Your right I have a bad attitude, I didn't always, but I do not because of the culture. Fix the culture and you'll fix the attitude. The truly sad thing is I am willing to admit that I have a bad attitude but you and others refuse to admit Wikipedia has a problem that needs to be addressed and blame it on me. But I don't think I am above the rules. What did I do? Edit from an IP because I no longer want to edit from an account? So what. That doesn't make me a sockpuppet, it doesn't make me a troll and it doesn't make me a vandal. To continuously be called these things is both insulting and a lie. Anyway I am done. Block my account or don't. It doesn't really matter because your actions show me what you want from me. Kumioko (talk) 21:35, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

The thing that pisses me off more than anything is that you tell me I can't be trusted with the tools and then you have bullies like User:Fram and others than do nothing but bully other editors. Follow them around and look for a reason to block them and get them banned. Who refuse repeatedly to drop the sticks and let things go and instist that they are not a problem. Then they spend their time bullying editors and running them out of the project and the community pats them on the back and congratulates them for getting rid of another content editor, another bot operator or another pesky editor. You have Admins like Sarek who block first and don't bother to ask any questions at all, you have some like Brad101 and Malleus that treat editors like shit but they do a lot of content improvements so you continue to let them be abusive. Then you have Arbcom who does their very best to seemingly choose the worst possible solution seemingly so that people won't submit things to them unless they want a negative outcome. Most of the editors on Arbcom are great and knowledgable and mean well I think. But the Committee in general is a menace and part of the problem here. But then I am a jerk because I call them out. Oh I am being mean and dropping names. I need to be blocked because their admins (well some are). I shouldn't be so mean to Arbcom because they are trying their best. Kumioko (talk) 21:44, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't block the 138 IPs. I only blocked this account. 28bytes (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Its a rotating proxy account that cycles. The next time I log on it will likely be something else! Its random.Kumioko (talk) 18:57, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken pls disengage from editing here or his IP accounts for some time - there is nothing said that is helpful in anyway to the current situation - in fact its putting more fuel on the fire. PLS STOP kicking him while his passed out on the ground. Let it go - remember when this happened to you? Be the better person and walk away.Moxy (talk)

Will do. (But what happened to me bears no resemblance to this situation, it was entirely different.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:10, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Your right Moxy and that goes for me too. I don't know why this place gets me so angry these days but it does. And then to be called a troll, vandal and sockpuppet? Its just over the top. I know Ken didn't do anything other than be annoyed by my ranting which is understandable. Kumioko (talk) 21:56, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I personalty just edit articles and stay away from admin boards and other non-article stuff lots of times. When I find myself frustrated with the bureaucracy of this place I just ignore it. Your all alone here and others could care less if your here or not - so do what you do best - edit and disengage from the bureaucracy part of Wiki. As for clean start - I have seen many editors do this and go on to be a great asset - all they did to change was to stay away from the noticeboards. Moxy (talk) 22:16, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Your right in that I'm all alone. Been like that for a while it seems. No one really cares about guilt or innocence. All they care is if you were blocked or not. If I was here for another 10 years someone would still bring up something. Besides I can't help in the areas I want to help in like CCI so its time to forget it. I would never be allowed to do a clean start anyway. Someone would complain that I was block evading, socking or something else. They would probably run around saying this user used to by Kumioko just to be fair or something similar. No need to reply. Not going to be watching this page. Kumioko (talk) 03:23, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Just FYI

BTW I just wanted to point out that there is another sockpuppet going in the Doncram case. If you all think I was socking then you might want to investigate and block User talk:204.101.237.139. If I was considered socking its clear they are socking too. But since that user isn't me, I doubt it would be considered appropriate to enforce policy on them. Kumioko (talk) 03:28, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

There is also User:69.95.203.38 who's only edit is at an Arbcom discussion? Unlikely. Kumioko (talk) 03:34, 21 February 2013 (UTC)