User talk:OwenBlacker

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 Done Dab to Mother Jones (magazine) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 11:34, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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 Done Dab to Daily Mirror — OwenBlacker (Talk) 11:25, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Spanish East Indies

Your recent edits:

• You have changed <br /> to <br>. That is a change from well-formed html to incorrectly formed.
• I don't know why you consider {{plainlist}} to be superior to {{ubl}}, particularly as the leading * you introduced on each line seemingly has no effect. Moreover you have changed the content of some lines.
• I don't see any point in removing white space, as it has no effect on rendered page.
• Re-ordering of parameters has no effect whatsoever on output.

While I am all in favour of changes which remove a problem, I think ones which just fiddle about on some private whim are just a personal vanity and a complete waste of several people's time. There are many things wrong within Wikipedia, more worthwhile things to attend to, actual problems which require actual fixing.

John of Cromer in Philippines (talk) mytime= Sat 07:22, wikitime= 23:22, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

To explain each of these:

• <br /> is slightly less easy to read than <br> and the MediaWiki software converts both to well-formed HTML, so it makes no difference which is used in the wikisource (ergo it makes sense to use the easier-to-read version). It has no effect on the rendered page, as you put it ;o)
• Similarly {{plainlist}} uses wikisource that is a little easier for editors to read than {{ubl}} does. Also, preview software, such as Popups, ignores the content of templates so, while that's irrelevant here (because we're inside the infobox), {{plainlist}} is generally more useful, imho.
• Removing whitespace is a standard part of the functionality of Advisor; there is no need for the whitespace to be there.
• Reordering the parameters makes a difference to preview software, such as Popups. With the previous order, the first image on the page is the flag of New Spain; with the reordering, it is the map of the Spanish East Indies. The first image on the page is included with the preview.

Whilst my edits may look like a private whim, they are minor WikiGnome cleanup changes that make small, but (slightly) useful changes. Life's too short to spend time on things that are wholly useless, after all. As you can see from my contributions, I spend a fair amount of my time working on the bigger things, as well as the little ones. "Worthwhile" is a subjective judgement, let's avoid judging how we each contribute and live-and-let-live, eh? :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 11:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Valyrian Languages

Since you asked for a {{tl:talkback}}... ;) {{talkback|talk:Valyrian languages}} --Iustinus (talk) 05:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Sa sir tida! http://wiki.dothraki.org/dothraki/Main_Page

--Iustinus (talk) 07:05, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Kirimvose! Do feel free to harass me in the future if there are other updates I miss :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 10:35, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Coca-Cola packaging

Your May 8th comment was the last comment on WP:Non-free content review#Coca-Cola packaging. Since it has been over a month, please re-review, then close the discussion as you see fit. 67.101.5.28 (talk) 02:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done Closed and removed non-free images, per WP:NFLISTS and WP:CSD#G5. There's been very little input, but everyone seems to agree that the non-free images are not appropriate in this context. Removing the column from the table also means that I'm labelling the following images with {{Di-orphaned fair use}}:

• File:Cola Cherry can.jpg
• File:Lemon Coke bottle.jpg
• File:Vanilla cola can.png
• File:Lime cola can.png
• File:Raspberry Cola can.jpg
• File:Black cherry coke can.png
• File:Coke Blak bottle.png
• File:Citra Coca Cola.png

I have updated NFURs on File:Caffine Free Coke can.jpg and File:Coke Orange bottle.png, which are legitimately being used in other articles; File:New Coke can.jpg is labelled with {{PD-ineligible}}, which I am neither removing nor endorsing. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 12:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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 Done Dab to Looting — OwenBlacker (Talk) 12:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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 Done Dab to National Geographic (magazine) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 12:53, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Species in Defiance

I require help on Species in Defiance. As you can see on Talk:Species in Defiance Jack Sebastian has been waging a one-man war to get the article deleted - he didn't exactly drop that threat, he just stopped responding when I wouldn't give in but kept giving better citations. Also need help getting the "additional verification" tag removed.

He keeps insisting:

1 - "We don't cite Facebook" -- when I'm citing promotional materials released through the TV show's OFFICIAL Facebook page as part of a cross-platform promotion (they put out these info-cards called "Alien Cultures of 2046" which give info about the different races). Nor does he believe in citing the official tumblr page.

2 - He adamantly insists, further, that we can't use the Facebook page because "it's devoted to the video-game" even though A - the Facebook page is blatantly about the TV show, and the info-cards use images from the TV show, and B - it wouldn't matter if it was, because the two projects are in a shared continuity; a MAJOR selling point of the show is that it's in a shared continuity. That being said, I *did not* rely on information from the video game at all, as I felt it might be challenged. I've only used on-air info, promotional info from the TV show's facebook an tumblr pages, as well as the "in-episode guide" feature from Defiance.com (and other info from Defiance.com).

3 - When I kept reverting his deletions because they were groundless....well, he pulled the age-old "no, I'm not reverting things, YOU are reverting things for undoing my reverts!" etc. etc. I'd keep undoing his deletions and demanding that he face up to the fact that Facebook and Tumblr posts from *official* channels, as well as the official website, are entirely valid. In response he accused me of violating the 3 Revert Rule. He also blithely warned me "wikipedia doesn't use Facebook and Tumblr, we decided this in an arcane discussion, you're free to read through it". I told him point blank that unless he gave me a direct link to this conclusion in the discussion, I wasn't going to waste time reading it - because I could tell he was screwing with me and thought he could intimidate me into submission by just citing "wikipedia doesn't do this" -- are you sure? Since he hasn't bothered giving a link.

4 - Above all, he's casually accused that it contained too much OR and SYNTH. Yet, even after repeated requests, he refused to give a specific list of which parts of the article he felt contained this; he just wanted the whole thing Deleted, without specific charges. For example, in one episode the Indogene Doctor Yewll smokes a cigarette while saying "these things will kill you" - establishing that Indogenes can smoke tobacco cigarettes with similar effects of mild euphoria, and similar negative health effects, to humans. I was thinking of the Tenctonese from Alien Nation, who actually respond very differently to Earth chemicals (alcohol isn't intoxicating, spoiled milk is; chocolate gives them the shakes an ultimately a heart attack; tobacco makes them stutter).

This is just one guy waging a one-man war against having this article. He hasn't really cited anything on WHY it should be deleted and hasn't even dignified us with *specific* problems within the articles. I spent most of June fighting with him over this, but by July he gave up....I say "gave up" but he didn't concede that the page shouldn't be banned, that's still looming over our heads. He simply didn't bother to respond after I put up defense after defense an counterpoint. Again, his baffling insistence that either "Wikipedia can't cite a Facebook page" (even an official one used to disseminate promotional materials?) or even if we can, "that Facebook page is about the video game"....when it blatantly isn't, and moreover, the TV show heavily cross-promotes with the video game an vice versa because they are in a shared universe.--Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 17:34, 1 August 2013 (UTC)